Celtic Banter Archive February 22 2018

22 Feb 2018 21:46:57
stevie just read your post and im wi u prob best i don't post for a while and let the rest of the doom n glooom squad have their say.

22 Feb 2018 21:53:12
The doom n gloom squad have a right to criticise. For a start, We didn’t sign a decent GK in Jan or any defenders who could improve our defence at this level.

We done great last week but it was all for nothing after that shambles of a display that. Brendan got it horribly wrong tonight tactically and In the transfer window. Players mentality is shocking.

Our league performances have been poor as well. Have failed to score in last 2 league games.

Time for the team to show a bit of fight and look interested.

22 Feb 2018 22:06:03
I know Welsbhoy going to let them get on with the whining, they can't be much older than 25 if they think this is a bad Celtic team. A great chance of a double treble and coming out with Shiite like that . Unbelievable.

22 Feb 2018 22:15:04
Stevie, I’m older than 25, and I’ve seen some rubbish teams, that tonight was absolutely amateur, and for anyone who still believes we’re a “major European “ team need to stop looking at the rest of the Scottish league and look at how little money we e invested in this squad.

{Ed007's Note - It seems it's the people that do believe we're a major European team that are the most upset.}

22 Feb 2018 22:17:24
Brendan picked the same team that beat them well last week, the players didn’t turn up, they did everything as badly tonight as they did brilliantly, they gave the ball away cheaply, defended like a primary school team and don’t get me started on Doris, signing him was probably the worst thing Brendan has done, he was pish at Dunfermline a decade ago and should be nowhere near Celtic, given our financial restraints Brendan has done well to get us to the group stages of the CL 2 years in a row and further into the EL this time but we are not good enough, let’s concentrate on winning back to back trebles, the first time it will ever have been done starting at Pittodrie on Sunday with Scott Bain starting in goal 🍀 HH.

22 Feb 2018 22:23:30
exactly ed since when when we a major european team? were the best of a small league with minamal resources compared to the rest of europe and yes we are the best of our lot so enjoy cos that's not always been the case.

{Ed007's Note - It's just a constant search for the most dramatic emotions for some mate. This will go down as the worst, most embarrassing defeat people have ever seen in all their years of watching Celtic - until the next loss of course then that'll become the worst and most embarrassing defeat in all their years of watching Celtic.}

22 Feb 2018 22:24:23
Stevie/ WB, spot on.
I have follwed Celtic since early sixties and I know what some real bad teams we had at times.
I am not destroyed by our performances in Europe but I am very disappointed.
I am also aware of our injury list which contains some players who would have made a big difference both last week and tonight.
I felt we totally controlled the first leg and should have been 3 goals up but, missed chances again.
Most of us were just happy to be in Europe after Christmas.
We never turned up tonight and, unless we improve our defence then, we will never make an impact on Europe.
What I do hate is the fact we are giving the media to deflect from sevco problems while they now talk of OUR crisis.
Also, all those who harp on about BR second season syndrome are having a fiedl day.

22 Feb 2018 22:26:56
Step away from the keyboard lads. Fair enough it was a poor display but it’s like Groundhog Day with the comments on here. 1 week it’s we r great next week massive changes required. IN EUROPE WE R OUT OUT DEPTH 9 TIMES OUT OF 10. That won’t change any time soon, we can’t sign players at 20 million and unless I am wrong zenit have. We play in a finacally struggling league and we can’t lure the top players we all crave because forget paying the heavy fee, the massive wages it about the standard of teams we will play domestically just doesn’t sell it.

22 Feb 2018 22:33:08
I don’t understand your reply Ed, are you saying that im unrealistic in my views of tonight’s game. Are you seriously happy with that performance tonight,

{Ed007's Note - So who believes we are a major European team, it would be them that would be most upset? You're on here saying how rubbish we were tonight but if we're as bad as you're saying why are you surprised by the result? Was it only tonight YOU realised we aren't a major European team any more?}

22 Feb 2018 23:02:09
That’s nonsense, the problem I have in our team, is how easily we are beaten. I’m not a glory hunter but that tonight was pure pish, and the point I’m making is, if we continue like that we will lose the league.

{Ed007's Note - Read your own posts back.}

22 Feb 2018 23:03:06
bhoy1411 u won't last here that's far too close to the bone of an intlligent post, meamself you're on another planet if u expect much, in europe tonight was the 2ns leg of a europa tie which we were ahead of which we consequently qaulified by being 3rd in a champions league group to me taht progress. yes disappointed by the performance but proud of the achievement.

22 Feb 2018 23:28:55
The tie could have been put to bed last week if we'd taken our chances but u can't blame Brendan for players missing them. but you can blame him for not rectifying the rb and gk pos as it's been glaring for 2 years now. anx again u can't blame him for the worst i njury list of any team in Britain.

22 Feb 2018 23:29:48
Spot on Bhoy1411, It's the over reaction at a defeat and the over reaction at a win . When we get beat it's words like pathetic, embarrassing and disgraceful get used, a week later it's superb and brilliant. We were trounced by one team in Europe this year PSG who spent 500 million assembling their team, we were well beaten by Bayern who have a team worth 100's of millions and beaten convincingly by Zenit who's team cost around 100 million. The fantasists on here seem genuinely shocked when we don't compete against those sort of sides.

22 Feb 2018 23:35:50
Defo Scott Bain between the sticks on Sunday. De Vries is never a gk! Prob get slated here but I don't rate the boy Ajer at all.

22 Feb 2018 23:55:10
True Ed, we haven't been a European giant for a VERY long time. It's a pity but I still reckon we should be higher up the ladder than we are if the club would have shown some interest (within reason) in investment in the playing squad. HH.

{Ed007's Note - I agree, Bob but you must admit we moved up a rung since last year by being in Europe after Christmas. We've achieved 3 out of our 5 targets for this season and we're still well on course for the other 2. And we've done it with a massive ongoing injury list and a general loss of form throughout the team.
We've got hopefully 14 games left to play this season, if someone had offered you this exact scenario where we are at the start of the season would you have taken it?}

23 Feb 2018 00:21:38
its a shame on here that if you're not in your 50s your opinion is put down. were all tims and react to pish like tonight in different ways. the fact is. that was dire. i put up with the cracked crest etc. doesn't make me more a fan than wee joe that bought his 1st ticket last. sure were all allowed an opinion. some of the superstars on here need to get over themslves.

{Ed033's Note - Why doesn't everyone on here pretend they're in their 50s as no one knows what a poster's real age is anyway? I'm 55 btw 😉

23 Feb 2018 00:08:49
We'll that was disappointing, however couldn't help but feel as I am sure we all did really. That the failure to put away chances last week would come back to haunt us. The lack of goals is simply down to injuries I would say this season, has affected our return all over the park. Anyway as I said dissapointed as we feel I am sure the players feel similar. Ah well just need to dust ourselves off and focus on the double treble in sight. Da da da da da da da da da. :D.

23 Feb 2018 00:37:39
39 here 007. massive fan of the site and your work, got me through some dark times in iceland. just disappointed its got a bit cliquey at times. were all one mob man. win lose or draw WE ARE ALL GLASGOW CELTIC.

{Ed007's Note - Come on, Gerry how's it getting cliquey? Everybody gets their say and argues their point. You can agree with somebody today and argue the toss with them tomorrow about something thing else. The only clique is our Celtic clique.}

23 Feb 2018 09:10:45
Nobody believed we were a CL team. What we took heart in was Lowell’s statements that we would become one. We will never achieve anything bearvthstvif we don’t fix a shambolic defence. The fact of the matter is we haven’t improved our Achilles heel. That’s what saddens us. Nothing, absolutely nothing has been done to improve it and we have a goalie should not be third never mind first choice.

We improve the defence we move up.

23 Feb 2018 11:17:12
Going to break protocol here and post, i too have stopped posting due to the sheer arrogance and delusional fans of our team. i had this discussion a good few months back about if we didn't match last year our own fans would see it as failure. the fact is that more people on this site are posting stuff about Rangers than their own club makes me sick.

Enjoy Mr. Rodgers while you can naysayers, because its only a matter of time before he leaves, and can you blame him?, why would you stay in a job ( that he has done exceptionally well) when your own fans ridicule and criticise every minute of every day.

22 Feb 2018 21:37:10
Bloody hell, one poor game and the overreaction on here has been nothing but ridiculous. “When are we going to win again”, “get rid of 80% of the team”, “title race is back on”

Away and give yourselves a shake. Celtic will only get better when our injuries have eased and we will lay down a marker to Aberdeen and Sevco over the next couple of weeks. Keep the faith Bhoys and Ghirls.

22 Feb 2018 22:06:16
One bad game? did you just start watching Celtic tonight?

You seriously think we have only had 1 bad game in Europe this season?

Astana put 4 past us lol, they are terrible as well. We have barely been good domestically since like November.

Still win the league but too many Celtic fans just can't see Celtic criticised, embarrassing tbh.

22 Feb 2018 22:55:20
Where did I say that was our first bad game in Europe this season? My post was in direct response to some of the drivel that has been written tonight.

I've watched some absolutely dung Celtic teams in my life and grew up when Sevco were winning absolutely everything. I have no reservations about criticising the squad in general when its due. Tonight Celtic were poor defensively, Lustig is on his last legs and has been very poor all season, Simo wasn't great and the keeper is a donkey. But the panic merchants who have to have an instant reaction to the squad and season overall, based on this one game are a joke. Quotes like I don't know where the next win is coming from is a massive kneejerk reaction to tonights game.

23 Feb 2018 00:12:54
Artmedia Bratislava that was a terrible game and poor result. Just take it into consideration we are punching above our financial weight on occasion we turn up and make it a fight but we need the team to do this more consistently. I am sure we will learn and grow from this campaign. Tonight we just didn't turn up but when we do we are a good team and can give most teams a game.

{Ed007's Note - I said something similar about consistency, especially in Europe, but it's been a bit of a problem all season. Hopefully with players coming back from injury and less frequent games we can get back to playing the football we know we're capable of. Tonight we were as poor as we were good last week.}

22 Feb 2018 21:27:32
Brendan out Dembele shite Doris is shite Lustig is shite Tierney worst I’ve ever seen . :/ away n lie down fkn mental some of the shite spouted best Celtic team I’ve seen since mid 80s and btw one of the youngest too let this team grow and enjoy the ride and if u don’t then we’re better off without u hh 🍀.

22 Feb 2018 21:38:22
Night Night Welshboy! Some tonight were shite but Doris IS always shite. Goodnight and God Bless. Love jfp xxx.

22 Feb 2018 21:53:49
JFP need to agree on one point. Doris has not played a great game for Celtic. Very poor.

22 Feb 2018 21:53:29
Well said. They will still find rubbish too moan about when we do the Double Treble!

22 Feb 2018 21:03:24
Like everyone here I'm extremely disappointed with the result tonight. I honestly think they're not a great team and won't go on to win the Europa League. It seems to me we lack belief in away games in Europe. We always concede early goals (stupid ones at that) . We have some very important games coming up domestically and the Defence needs to improve big time.
Yes it was a bonus being in Europe after Christmas and that's now gone. We have to pick ourselves up and move on. We're still on course for another Treble and let's start by beating Aberdeen on Sunday.

22 Feb 2018 20:45:04
To Ed and all other fellow TIMS. If the much maligned Craig Gordon had played (1) even although the centre halfs we don't have are primarily to blame Gordon might have got to it (2) second goal would never have happened. Brendan's bawz the baw didn't move HIS keeper is a prize fud and (3) the third goal well Zenit might never have got there. Brendan's interview was an absolute embarrassment. It's always somebody else's fault. Your keeper Brendan and your first choice after Gordon would have got embarrassed in Airdrie public park. We've played with a goalkeeper who narrowly saved his career for how many years knowing this day could come and it did tonight. C'mon Brendan have the bawz to admit the responsibility for tonights result first and foremost lies with YOU! ☘️.

{Ed007's Note - So if Gordon had played it would have been 0-0 and we'd have went through? That's bollocks, the whole team were garbage, and to say Gordon might have done this or done that is immaterial and has no basis in reality.
If your aunty had balls and all that....}

22 Feb 2018 20:55:30
Cmon Ed I’ve been watching Celtic for half a century and Doris is the worst goalkeeper I’ve seen. And he Brendan’s.

{Ed007's Note - And Gordon's not much better. I'd have the likes of Ian Andrews and Carl Muggleton as worse 'keepers considering they were our first choice and what about Allen McKnight?}

22 Feb 2018 20:58:58
After last couple of games starting to think we could blow the league unless the players give themselves a shake and start to actually turn up for games.

{Ed007's Note -

via GIPHY

22 Feb 2018 21:00:32
Jfp love u pal but that’s shite btw. We were shite tonight but I’m not going to criticise to me it’s a mentality thing we know we’re pinching above our weight and don’t know how to handle that. I take solace in the fact that we’re such a young team and hope that going forward we can build on this. Let’s not be naive we’ve just played one of the favourites for this comp and on 1st leg played them off the park. Now we can get back to bread n butter beat the sheep and then Morton grab the treble and see what next season brings. Faithful through n through 🍀.

22 Feb 2018 21:05:25
The whole backline with the exception of Tierney could easily be replaced. I don't believe for a second Rodgers believes boyata, siminovic, svitchenko, gamboa, lustig, Gordon and de Vries are good enough. Our defence has been screaming out to be sorted from the beginning of this season if not before. The defending is a joke, totally embarrassing in Europe and yet we'd rather spend descent money on midfielders and strikers than sorting it out. It's pathetic.

22 Feb 2018 21:20:12
Welsboy I agree we’re punching above our weight but Doris should NEVER play in goal for Celtic again! PS: love you too xxx.

22 Feb 2018 21:22:27
50 yrs watching Celtic and you say Doris is the worst fk me oh and cheers ed I’d removed Allen McKnight from my memory 😬.

{Ed007's Note - :-D

22 Feb 2018 21:27:11
I meant to say he’s nearly the worst I’ve seen and that was the two names I had in mind. But you can’t argue Doris is pish and was dropped after first game(s) in favour of Gordon. Larsson can play with the ball at his feet put him in goal.

22 Feb 2018 21:30:09
Welsbhoy my posts weren’t published where I stated that Doris was nearly the worst I’ve seen but McKinightmare and Muggleton were his two leading contenders! 😂👍☘️.

{Ed007's Note - All the posts I've had have been put up mate.}

22 Feb 2018 21:45:13
Hate to be the bean counter here but he actually put THREE up pmsl 😂

And Stewart Kerr was not far off them 👍.

22 Feb 2018 21:50:41
Thanks Ed. Think we’re all just a tad disappointed. Goodnight and God Bless Ed and troops. jfp.

{Ed007's Note - Night mate, God bless.}

23 Feb 2018 00:41:28
Welshy u hit the nail on the head there, a know u meant punching, but we're pinching, penny pinching. Spend a bit on a gk and rb n we might have a chance.

{Ed007's Note - GK must be our main priority in the summer. I'd free Gordon and De Vries, buy Ward or Sondre Rossbach from Odd and sign Bain on a free as our No.2.
I do think Bain will be signed but hopefully not as our No.1.}

22 Feb 2018 20:24:37
Just wondered what the Craig Gordon out brigade think after the game? Because you saw the alternative tonight! I'm not saying Gordon is perfect, he gets pelters for his distribution and has the odd rush of blood but does what a goalkeeper is supposed to and keep the ball out of the net, then there is Doris who can't save anything but can supposedly play with the ball at his feet, hurry back Craig.

{Ed007's Note - Theses early kick-offs are a nightmare for folk drinking too much.}

22 Feb 2018 21:08:21
Goalkeeper has been a problem area for a while and we have failed to address the position properly since Forster was sold - when we had the funds to do so and we have been getting by with an injured veteran and a stookie stand-in for far too long.
Centre back/ Right back has also been erratic and inefficient areas and it will remain so until we bring in the quality we need.

22 Feb 2018 21:23:33
Absolute shite looking for a get out clause fact is we’re just no good enough accept it.

22 Feb 2018 20:01:51
Concentration. jozo leaves ivanovich, only one of the best dead ball headers in the fekn game, and DDV might have at least got a hand.

Second. No closing down and even if the ball moved it was not enough to take it beyond the keeper.

Third. KT caught 10 yards behind his line and lustig being bullied at the back post. Again. Concentration. This is ridiculous. BUT.

I actually thought there was some good things tonight. We passed pretty well, distinct lack of a killer touch to be fair, and were ok defensively other than the gifts. The ref did not help, no blame but some strange decisions, and Ajer continues to learn and improve along with the rest of a fairly young team.

Big big game coming up, the team for that will be interesting.

22 Feb 2018 19:56:06
Tonight's game was a bonus in many ways. yes we have made it past Xmas but as a team we havnt progressed.
The team is made up of young guys tasting these nights and gaining experience.
Until our recruitment gets better we will always struggle.
As I said at the beginning of the weak Aberdeen is the bigger game.
A wasted 2 points at the weekend to prepare for this.
All focus now on the league.
We must pick ourself up, dust ourself down and start taking the league more seriously.
Gone are the days of last season were we turned up and won.
Nothing short of a win at Aberdeen will do.

22 Feb 2018 19:33:15
Didn't expect to go through when the draw was made. But after the first leg went and got my hopes up.

Absolute joke of a performance tonight. Lustig is finished. We are shitebags away from home in Europe.

Starting to doubt Rodgers ability to take us to the next level in Europe. No point in kidding. He's done the lot domestically can't take that away from him. At the end of the day last season is last season. Maybe it's the boards lack of investment but BR said he was happy with the backing he's had. Nonetheless that team should have been set up better tonight. Even with injuries there's enough players there capable of putting in a better performance.

{Ed007's Note - What's the next level in Europe for us, realistically?}

22 Feb 2018 19:38:30
Fair question. I think we need to evaluate how far we can go season by season. Our chances of progressing to latter stages hinges on who we get drawn against.

I’m more annoyed with the pathetic performance after putting ourselves in such a good position.

But it’s Rodgers who said he wanted to take us further in Europe. That he’d be judged on that.

{Ed007's Note - The aim was always to get European football after Christmas (so really he has taken us further this season) but I totally agree with you about tonight's performance, after last week the player's had a great chance of progressing but they've been poor tonight.}

22 Feb 2018 19:41:59
The next level for us in Europe has to be consistency above anything else. Big Sutton called it in the commentary, we play great one game and then get hammered the next. We all got our hopes up after last week but if we’re honest, are any of us surprised by tonight? I’m certainly not. It leaves a sour taste to see a Celtic team look so afraid out there.

22 Feb 2018 19:42:28
I'd like to congratulate the BR and the Bhoys, if we go out, on hitting my European target for this season.

22 Feb 2018 19:49:38
Big pressure on the boys for Sunday’s game, it’s time to show a bit of fight.

22 Feb 2018 19:52:27
Went out with a whimper yet again, three poor goals gave away again. We just can’t defend in a European game, same story all the time. Really frustrating yet again, we need some better defenders for Europe especially if we want to improve . Can anyone on here really think Hendry is going to make a difference for us because I don’t .

22 Feb 2018 19:57:01
same players. same set up. why the big difference? im sure as feck not a celtic manager so lost on this one. your thoughts troops?

22 Feb 2018 20:02:31
What a difference a week makes is right. It's one thing to lose in Europe but to lose like that is shocking. A lot of players when missing. If either the keeper or lustig plays on Sunday then that said enough for me. That keeper is rubbish. A total liability. We may not be good enough at this level but how we can perform at home like that and then a week later like this l just don't know. Feel sorry for brown, kt, forrest and ajer. Scott bain has to be given a chance in goal.

22 Feb 2018 20:05:13
I would say Ed that the aim is not necessarily to progess beyond the stage we have this season but to at least turn up in certain games. In no way I'm I slating BR or the team or expecting them to beat these teams but it can't be argued that there has been a considerable amount of performances this year where the majority of the team have looked pedestrian and more worryingly not fully committed. I would like us to get to a stage where we are at least asking a few questions of these teams for instance Bayern at home and can at least hold our heads up high that we have tried. The PSG home game I expected to be a humping but its the mannerisms if some players that is upsetting me. Anyway that's us for another year let's now focus on the domestic front and show the people that will berate us for this performance that they are not in our league 🍀.

{Ed007's Note - Strengthen the GK, RB and CB positions in the summer and try and find some consistency in Europe, we saw last week the level this team can play at and we need to try and do that more often.}

22 Feb 2018 20:27:44
Really poor the night movement up top needs to change look at the so called creative players we have and nothing to show we gave the game away. Keeper does not believe in himself he needs to warm the bench up again. for me it's the lack of forward passing and get up and go for it passing was clearly no working over the top ball so no a bad thing sometimes changes the mind set of the other team surely.

22 Feb 2018 20:57:21
Completely agree Ed with those 3 positions and we have known that for a while. As I mentioned above we had a perfect scenario to tick one of them off when Gordon got injured and ended up loaning a player that realistically we had no desire in signing.

Tonight I'm upset by the performance and desire from the players but as you've mentioned we have hit our targets and statistically if we secure another treble we have improved and look forward to getting our heads down now, playing our strongest lineup and with some extremely important injuries returning that contributed massively to our success last season (which I think a lot of folk underestimate) . Reaffirming we are heads and shoulders above the rest domestically.

{Ed007's Note - I'm disappointed that we didn't make more of a game of it tonight, I was pretty confident of scoring over there but that early goal knocked the stuffing out of us.}

22 Feb 2018 21:03:05
Tonight the bhoys became Boys!
Like it not Europe after Xmas tonight was not worth the wait
End of.

22 Feb 2018 18:59:15
Posted earlier don't do anything silly early on, so what do we do set piece and then doris you'd be better with doris day.

22 Feb 2018 19:09:14
DeVries is having a nightmare.

22 Feb 2018 17:02:23
mon you mighty hoops! win lose or draw. its all about the champs elect! Hail Hail.

22 Feb 2018 18:36:51
Well if that's the best keeper in the club god help us. Some rubbish from De Vries. And that's being very polite!

22 Feb 2018 18:49:27
Poor first half after a poor game against St Johnstone let’s hope we improve in second half and do ourselves justice.

22 Feb 2018 18:43:21
Honestly think we will lose here and then again at pittodrie, can’t see goals in our team at all.

22 Feb 2018 15:32:32
Right off to the pub. Make us proud Celtic.

22 Feb 2018 16:31:15
Me too Jedi not watching this one at home 😊 mon the hoops 🍀.

{Ed007's Note - Jakeballs!}

22 Feb 2018 17:26:40
Is that a Hamilton thing Ed?

{Ed007's Note - Oh there's plenty of jakeballs in Hamilton, GJ.}

22 Feb 2018 10:29:31
My prediction for tonight is 1-1 with big Moose scoring the goal! Anybody more (or less) confident?

22 Feb 2018 11:00:04
I'm confident we can get a goal Kev, yeah. That would put real pressure on Zenit needing three. I just hope that this young side show real maturity and composure. If we concede, fair enough. I don't want to see us collapse and concede twice in quite quick succession. Keep calm and just try and get that goal, I think it'll be enough to get us through. Having a punt, I'd go 2-1 to Zenit on the night, but confident we can go through.

22 Feb 2018 13:16:45
I’m going into this game more optimistic than fearful. fair enough against PSG and Barcelona we got beat and Brendan gets a pass for that but against Zenit in the Europa I want to see what our manager has. he gets paid a lot of money to pick the formation, tactics, players etc and just like last week I trust Brendan to get it spot on and set a team up tonight to beat Zenit! . I fancy 0-3 to the celts hail hail mon the hoops!

22 Feb 2018 14:32:40
I am apprehensive, but hopeful that we can produce another top performance to match the home tie.
We have not managed to string too many of these top-form games together, mostly because of the amount of injuries all season, but if we can defend well and assert ourselves, we can get a great result.
My only other worry is if we get another piss-poor referee?

22 Feb 2018 16:26:26
I'm hoping the combination of it being their 2nd game in months and the Russian media giving them a tanking all week should give us boost. If we keep at them and don't ship a few daft goals I can see the pressure getting to them.

22 Feb 2018 05:32:27
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 22nd February