Celtic Banter Archive August 22 2015

22 Aug 2015 23:07:36
Hope Liam Henderson has a blinder tomorrow against Rangers and shows Deila that he is ready for the first team at Celtic.

Really rate him and think Hibs have done well to get him for a season. Hopefully he will be ready to make the step up when he returns to Celtic.

22 Aug 2015 23:39:44
My thought on this is that next year Biton will be in a similiar situation to Van Dijk. I think several clubs down south and further afield will be looking at biton this season and if he continues to be as good as he has been he will be the next £8-10 million sale. This will leave that central mid position open for the taking and my guess is that the club hope Henderson will gain the experience to fill that role as a regular next year. I think henderson has the makings to be a cracking player for us, tall athletic and can pass a ball which is ideal in this day an age. when he left I was slightly worried about cover in that area but after seeing rogic in that position today I'm not so worried.

thats just my opinion right enough :)

23 Aug 2015 00:17:21
Be a shame if that is the case with Biton but it would be nice for Henderson to have a season or 2 with Broony that way he will hopefully adopt that drive Broony offers to the team as I've always seen his as Broonys long term replacement

23 Aug 2015 11:34:05
I really rate Henderson and prefer him over McGregor for that matter and I really hope all these loan moves and the purchase of Allen does not mean the club will eventually let him go like so many before him - or the player decides to leave?

23 Aug 2015 13:58:46
Watching the Hibs v Sevco game. Henderson not doing that well and has fluffed two simple chances.

Should be loaned out next year to an Spl team as he is at least 2 years away from being a sub never mind a first team player.

23 Aug 2015 20:16:32
Mcgreggor will be at Dundee or Killie very very soon.

22 Aug 2015 18:57:17
Hi Ed, new poster.
Good luck with the diabetes. From personal experience it does get better. We need to take a step back & breath. We're a better team than that Swedish mob & if we play anywhere near half decent we'll prove it. Remember, we haven't lost a game yet this season in ten attempts.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks very much mate and welcome aboard.}

23 Aug 2015 08:16:13
Wasn't aware of your diabetes sir. good luck with that, hope you get it regulated.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks mate, it's all a bit up and down just now but I'm getting there slowly but surely.}

24 Aug 2015 00:45:18
Ed007 sorry to hear mate. My mate is a taxi driver and one of his colleagues had nickname "sleeping beauty" cause he fell asleep in taxi and stalled rank. One day he wasnt for waking at toot of horn or chap at window. Turns out he was going into a diabetic coma and he never knew he was diabetic. Keep on top of it mate, hope all is well mate

{Ed007's Note - Cheers mate, there's nothing like a feel-good story to keep up morale! :=D

24 Aug 2015 01:14:04
Apologies Ed, hope you get illness under control mate

{Ed007's Note - I'm winding you up (finger) It's cool.}

24 Aug 2015 05:04:37
Lmao ed I knew that lol. Hope your okay mate

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

22 Aug 2015 18:42:32
I know Commons has been injured and is behind the rest with his fitness and sharpness, but last season I felt he was nowhere near the form of the previous campaign and I think his best days are behind him.
He has contributed well over the period he has been with us and I would like to see him offered a player/coach role with the emphasis more on coaching - as we have a great deal of young midfield players that would benefit from his experience.

As for the like of Stokes, Scepovic, and Boerighter - I hope they are released or sold asap.
Rogic, O'Connell, Janko, plus McGregor and Allen when they came on did very well today and it was great to see the team with so many changes, control and win the game at a tough venue.
I had my doubts before the KO as we have come a cropper, doing this on previous occasions, but fair play to RD and the team on 3 points.
The regulars who were rested today have been given every chance to do the job on Tuesday, thanks to them.

22 Aug 2015 16:55:35
positives from today griffiths scoring again. janko rogic oconnell mgregor allan and gms. all young players who have shown they can come in when needed.but need to get more opportunity more development. there are ore waiting but we need to get rid of the driftwood /past it /hadtheir day types like mulgrew stokes commons ambrose erc to allow this progression imo we are 2-3players away from being a good team striker/cb/lb.fill theses 3positions with quality experienced pros . get rid of ecxess feed in the yongstes for games like today . I know all the youngsters won't make it but without given them a crack what's the point of a youth/reserve team . paying all those guys and then buying elsewhere . good 3points and some nice play andhopefully the rested should be kept on their toes with some of the play today

22 Aug 2015 18:12:22
A actually we had quite a good balance today between young players and older hands . So good in fact that we got a win and rested nine of the players who played on Wednesday night . I wasn't happy with either Stokes or Mulgrew today and I am led to believe that Stokes maybe moving on , but we won today as a team .
We cannot take isolated instances and ridicule players who make a mistake , what we need to do is look at what a player produces over all.
It would be complete madness to go over the top criticising Janko today for his total miss kick when he had reached the by line .
He deserves credit for getting there , far too often some of us are too quick to criticise the error .

22 Aug 2015 15:11:39
Ambrose getting pelters what about mulgrew god awful.

22 Aug 2015 15:30:39
Ambrose did ok today in a makeshift defence, the UTD player should never have been allowed to run into the box, stokes didn't chase him and Charlie was weak in the tackle, but players make mistakes. On Wednesday Lustig should have been closer to Berget for the first goal he was drawn to the other striker when VVD and boyata werein good positions. I have watched celtic for a long time and the fans have always had a whipping boy so is nothing knew but we really should support the players, as soon as Efe or izzy make a mistake a lot off supporters are on their backs. I assume they think that will help their confidence and play better

22 Aug 2015 16:44:24
Groutdoc, whilst I acknowledge your heart. You can't tell me that as a passionate fan when a pkayer makes a mistake your natural reaction is to cheer their name?

22 Aug 2015 17:44:47
Hi Jim

You're right I get frustrated like us all, however I have sat at games and listened to our fans berate players almost from the first whistle, izzy, Charlie, Efe James Forrest all at times seem to be targeted yet others don't. Stefan Johansen gives the ball away more than anyone in the team and at Kilmarnock Virgil's positioning was at fault for the first goal but they don't get the same reaction. People talk about having faith in RD, if that is the case then we accept that he chooses these players to be on the park and if they are not good enough he will drop them until then we need to encourage and support them not barrack them at every mistake. I am sure that each of the players mentioned give their all for us let's get behind them. Surely people can see that the moans and groans that come from,the stands won't help anyone's confidence In fact it is a credit to these players that they don't hide when things go wrong

22 Aug 2015 18:22:33
I am like Groutdoc , I have followed for years, I don't cheer a player that makes a mistake but I try to understand how and why the mistake came about . I have rarely watched a game that nobody makes a mistake . I think that too many of us are are too quick to emphasis the mistake rather than praise all the good play .

22 Aug 2015 13:47:50
Any win with Effin on the park is an achievement. I mean giving the opposition a player? How generous of us.

Aw heart.

Adrenalin junkies to a fault.

22 Aug 2015 14:38:26
Magicpole I am sure you will be the first to congratulate Deila and the team for been able to win with a team of reserves . You made your usual cynical comment when Deila rested players for the Kilmarnock match that we couldn't .

I was exceptionally pleased with all the contributions today with only nine regulars starting

22 Aug 2015 14:55:31
I'm so pleased for you. Yes, I too enjoyed the game apart from our customary, almost mandatory defensive balls ups.

As for my 'cynicism' well we all look at things differently.

Not being a super fan like yersel I will just try harder to nit see the bleeding obvious, never mind mention it.

22 Aug 2015 15:03:35
Magicpole never mind oldbhoy mobody is aloud to have there opinion about our players and the players which u me and many go on about deserve the criticism they get yeah going on about 9 players rested but all the players brought in are all international players exception oconnell and janko but they play for u21 countrys

22 Aug 2015 18:30:09
Greenandwhiteknight , I hope you give me the right to have an opinion . Magicpole said after we drew with Killie that nobody could expect us to win after wholesale changes . I was pointing out we had . Maybe I was wrong, maybe I shouldn't have an opinion .

22 Aug 2015 18:57:48
Old bhoy everybodys got there views and a lot are with me on ambrose yet u try to defend him all good you defending him just a pity you can't teach your hero how to defend🙉

22 Aug 2015 12:58:46
AMBROSE strikes again!! Somebody please tell me how this guy is anywhere near a Celtic top! 2nd string or not! Embarrsment! If he's in the team on Tuesday we can kiss any chance goodbye! Anybody who comes on here and says anything different is deluded!!

22 Aug 2015 13:09:50
My man ambrose again says earlier on in week this guy guarentees the opposition a goal every game he needs to go don't want to hear all.this support the team because he is wearin the Jersey he is no good enough time to show him the door ronnie

22 Aug 2015 13:40:44
Ambrose is quite simply preposterous.

22 Aug 2015 13:43:52
The would have done us a favour sending the nightmare aff.

Ark east that way he inky causes one goal.
There's another one in him. Possibly two so kept him on.

The blame lies with Delia. He picks him.

Talk about tunnel vision.

Try nae vision.

22 Aug 2015 14:43:12
The anti Ambrose blinkered brigade are at it again . At least three players stood back and waved the D U player through . By the time it came to Ambros's turn , the danger had arisen and he was forced into making a last gasp tackle . He didn't get it right but if the other players had done their job, he wouldn't have been called on
Ambrose played very well for the rest of the game .

22 Aug 2015 15:28:35
Old bhoy I'm more convinced than ever that Uve never watched a Celtic game! Ambrose is woeful! So he just had to give away a penalty because other players didn't tackle him! Or he had to let the Malmo player walk through him like he wasn't there! Or he had to gift Kilmarnock the goal last week! Or he had to get sent off 2 games in a row last season,one of them a FRIENDLY!! Yeh crackin player that guy is!!

22 Aug 2015 15:59:02
Yeah totally agree dh88 this old bhoy dude is surely at it can't be watching same game as the rest of us

22 Aug 2015 12:51:29
2 up cruising my man ambrose again wow this guy is actually worse than oliver tebily he needs to be shown the door asap sick of this calamity says earlier in the week he almost single handed gaurentees the opposition a goal at least Ronnie show him door

22 Aug 2015 15:37:05
Greenandwhiteknight . You are a knowledgeable football man, surely you recognise that there were at least three other Celtic players at fault as much as him .

To be honest , I thought all our players give of there best , many did stupid things , but at the end of a day when Deila fields a makeshift team , to have everyone doing their best is good .
We should be happy instead of nit picking .

22 Aug 2015 16:04:08
Old bhoy listen mate agree every player makes mistakes that's only normal but ambrose has had his chance he is not good enough to play for us he's a constant goal start for any team wee play he might be the whipping bhoy but he gets it because he's not good enough. Are u telling me when u see his name on team sheet your not worried. If not you must be the only one. The sooner he leaves the sooner ill start getting good nights sleep again.

22 Aug 2015 16:19:29
Old Bhoy are you drunk?

22 Aug 2015 18:54:35
It's hard to counter some of the analysis posted about Ambrose, however, he wasn't totally to blame for Dundee Utd's goal today nor Kilmarnock's first goal the other week. I didn't hear Broony come in for too much stick on Wednesday night when it was his header that led to Malmo breaking away and scoring the first goal. Defending at the end of the day, especially in the modern era, is a collective effort.

Before folk get carried away about young Janko, there needs to be a realisation that his positional sense from a defence perspective is still lacking and would be a big gamble for a game of Tuesday's magnitude. Gary Parker, in fact, made the point before we signed him that he didn't see him as a right back for the same reason and was based on what he saw of him at Bolton last season. This may change in time but a team with a little savvy will exploit this to the max.

Chris Sutton made an interesting point in his commentary today in saying that he thought Ambrose could be a useful defender when he keeps it simple. Perhaps Ronnie needs to sit the guy down and spell this out to him.

22 Aug 2015 22:58:00
Ambrose played very well at right back in the world cup,before that his Celtic career went downhill after Lennon had a moment of insanity and picked him to play in a champions leaque game just after stepping of the plane back from the African nations cup,after making an excellent start to his Celtic career his confidence in a Celtic jersey has never recovered from that game , its all NL's fault

22 Aug 2015 11:33:50
Just seen the team to play Utd this afternoon. Doesn't fill me with confidence especially Ambrose at centre half. Good to see Bailey Janko and O'Connell getting a run out but I don't understand why Stokes is in the team when it appears that he has no future at the club. Don't we have anyone else.

22 Aug 2015 13:03:42
We are playing well enough and in command of the game thanks to Griffiths, them missing a sitter and gifting us an OG.
The Utd goalie has saved them, so far from a drubbing.
Step Up Efe Ambrose and give a beaten team a sniff with a PK!
The guy is a total liability and what's worse - will probably start on Tuesday.
Just like against Kilmarnock and Malmo (and ICT to a degree)- a game we are controlling and winning comfortably, is changed by our own inability and mistakes.
By the way Stokes and Mackay-Steven are ineffective to put it politely - get them aff!

22 Aug 2015 04:53:26
I think neighsaysers like your self,amigo forget that what makes celtic -Glasgow - also constrains it. RD is a rough diamond granted but a diamond - who pray tell would you have manage celtic? We have the same problems with attracting managers as we do players - it's wet country in a poor league and we don't have the cash to compensate for that. I think our club is ran well, very well and make no mistake PL could get a better paid job down south tomorrow , I suspect he , lie a lot of folk I know working at the club do it as much for the love 'Celtic' and all that that stands for.

22 Aug 2015 09:05:20
Keep repeating the same thing, 20m on offer EVERY season and we all know the club could and should do more to get there. No point in moaning about lack of income then letting it slip away through apathy.
On to Tuesday, we are comfortably better than Malmo, but still no better than below average at this level. CL money on a regular basis would help to push us in the right direction, and regular participation would attract better players.

22 Aug 2015 12:57:22
So how much do you want to spend to get the 20 million? 5 , 10 , or even 15 million? And what happens if even then we don't qualify?

22 Aug 2015 13:54:18
That depends on how many years you want to wait to see if things improve naturally. I take it some people are content with the downward spiral from mediocrity. This small club mentality can become a self fullfilling prophecy.
The thing is, Celtic do actually spend money, they just don,t seem to spend it wisely as we have all witnessed with the procession of cheap buys that take up wages and rarely see first team action. This being the reason we are not progressing, would it not be better to make one decent buy per window ( I think the club would remain solvent ), and make the effort to push on. If you want to win the lottery, you really do have to buy a ticket!
We already close half the ground for some home games, something I would never have contemplated witnessing in my lifetime. That is not only the "financial crisis", that is people voting with their feet!

22 Aug 2015 14:06:43
Just spend something fab. Anything. Anything beyond money from player departures. Where's the rest of our income going?