Celtic Banter Archive October 21 2016

21 Oct 2016 12:29:41
So ed everyone else has had there say on the bmg game just wondering what your thoughts were?

{Ed007's Note - The better team won and I wasn't surprised at all by the result although I expected us to offer a bit more than we did. The same areas that we all know are weak let us down again, GK, CB and CM. It's OK saying with hindsight that Simunovic should have started but Toure was meant to be have been brought in to solidify the defence and that's not happened as much as I hoped, although Gordon should have done a lot better with their first goal. A GK must be our priority next summer.
With Rogic being marked out the game Bitton needed to show more urgency in there, again that never happened and they overran us in midfield thus affecting the whole attacking part of our game. We'll have learnt a lot more from Wednesday's game than we did against Barca, there's no reason why we can't aspire to play like Munchengladbach.}

21 Oct 2016 13:37:48
ED007 I agree about Biton and Rogic so how about this team for Sunday.
Gordon, Lustig/ Gamboa, Simonivic, Scepovic, Tierney,
Toure (DM) ,
Brown, Rogic,
Roberts, Dembele, Sinclair.

{Ed007's Note - On Sunday I'd go with:

------------------Gordon--------
Lustig--Simunovic---Sviatchenko-----Tierney----
-------------Brown-----Armstrong/McGregor------
Roberts-----------Rogic-----------Sinclair----
------------------Griffiths-------

I'd love to see Rodgers going with 2 up front but I can't see it happening.}

21 Oct 2016 14:26:50
I've had my tuppence worth during the live chat and post match and totally agree with that summary Ed.
We never really tested them and lacked the intensity and hunger that was shown versus City and Bitton is a constant offender who has not played a game since he got the new deal.
I give the Borussia manager a lot of credit for doing his homework and think BR maybe should have changed things sooner when he saw we were struggling against their system and pace.
I hope Griffiths and Roberts start on Sunday (along with Simunovic) as Forrest, Dembele and even Sinclair are losing sharpness.

{Ed007's Note - I've said the same thing above about the changes I'd make for Sunday.}

21 Oct 2016 15:59:50
Good call ed bang on!

I am praying a gk is top priority for next season. I'm not saying gk was at fault for the result but after the opener my first reaction after it was he was megged at his near post.

I'm not taking anything away from bmg tho I genuinely thought they were quality team and deserved the 3 points. If I had to choose between bmg and city for 2nd I hope it's bmg.

{Ed007's Note - I'd like to see BM go through over City too but it's a big ask I think.}

21 Oct 2016 17:15:00
Timaloy, have we re-signed scepovic? 😂.

21 Oct 2016 17:35:54
Agree Ed Griff n Roberts in for me, Forrest had 1 or 2 runs but was back to not tracking back, cutting inside instead of taking it wide or taking a man on. I was shouting for Roberts to come on at half time. Soon as he got on the ball he was a threat n easily went past multiple defenders, yet we still didn't supply him enough, too much passing back or sideways 4 my liking, no real urgency or pressing n yet when we actually did press them we won the ball n were on the attack. God knows why we didn't realise that n press all the time, that's how we played so well against city as everyone pressed as a team, too many didn't do it or often enough against the germans.
As for toure and Gordon, toure made two schoolboy errors n the first one clearly affected him. (I'm sure someone will find a way to blame Ambrose or Rd haha) Gordon was woeful 4 the first goal, beat at his near post n through his legs, is the keeper not meant to leave no holes at the near post n therefore the strikers forced to go across goal, guy needs replaced soon as.
A word on the fans, thought we didn't give the team enough either, the Germans were on song all game n i felt there was a lot of the old grumblings n slagging certain players, I just wish people would stick with the team through the good and bad, we still need an added bit of quality in midfield n specially a goalkeeper, n i hope Henderson gets a run of games as I think he could step up alongside brown
By the way n this is just my opinion but I thought I was seeing things at the end of the game when our fans were clapping the borrussia fans, I was perplexed as I couldn't care less what they were doing i was more annoyed that we didn't get behind the team like against city, we help make paradise a fortress along with the team. Again just my take.
Well onto Sunday, beat the newco by a few goals, n then look to get a draw in Germany, tough ask n we have to start better but also press harder n higher as u inevitably get the ball nearer to their goal there's more threat of us scoring. I'm just never one for sitting back n letting a team attack u as when we don't have the ball we can't score
Hailhail.

{Ed007's Note - Good post there mate.}

21 Oct 2016 17:43:00
They hit us with such high pressure intensity from the word go we were struggling all through . I think it was amazing we held them scoreless for so long and it took a couple of mistakes for them to score . For all their pressure and excellent passing we actually created probably the two best chances but unfortunately Sinclair missed both badly . We like to set the tempo and pressurise high up the pitch but on Wednesday night they saw to it that there was no chance we could do that

I think Boroussia are the standard we should and as ed said can aspire to. If we reach that and then improve we will have a team that can enter any European game with confidence.

21 Oct 2016 18:05:48
Quinn1888 ha ha my spelling was never the best please read as Sviachenko lol
I will now put dunce's hat on and stand in the corner.

22 Oct 2016 02:00:07
The 3-3 result neutered us hunger wise after the Barcelona loss, that energy given the circumstances can't be maintained by us. Speaking honestly it burnt a few wicks from both ends because we aren't used to those nights too often.
When we went a goal down I didn't see us coming back. Even before I though if you don't score first we've had it. No discredit to us but the lads we played against have to try to shut up shop against players that refuse epl wages. MGB looked organised. Annoyingly organised. I'll echo the previous posts as an armchair manager but it was glaringly obvious we didn't have a foot in the mf (sub biton) we didn't have anyone to carry the ball on the right (sub forrest) . All was done but a bit late. I don't know if we would of even created anything more with a few earlier subs. As they defended like germans. Killer of a group but it is what it is.
I emailed fifa the other day, explained fully the new re-boot I had planned . points per income with 4 points given to to the team offeset by thier circumstances at the start of the group. tv money and tier domestic system accounted for. No more rediculous than the euro draw your way to the final that got the nod.
Anyway, I've not heard back as of yet.
Not from fifa anyway. Just #marcobreed on twitter saying the system should be rolled out world wide. Never heard of the guy.

22 Oct 2016 17:48:44
Cheers Ed appreciate the comment, I just think we have the dynamics of a good team but also it's getting into that way of playing all the time, high pressing, quick tempo n getting your good players on the ball often enough is a must.
On Wednesday we failed to do those things enough n as we all know they get punished at a higher level. Still I'm all for players n the team growing, gaining experience etc n hopefully by the summer window I would hope for a goalkeeper n a quality centre mid, if not I'd be happy to go with Henderson n brown as longer term I want to see more Scots in our lineup, home grown players are the future n no finer example than kt, credit to Rd 4 having faith to play the wee man n keep him playing well n he has continued into this season, any player wants to know what it means to play for the hoops should look at him.
As gutted as I was on Wednesday, I hate Celtic ever getting beat, I was a bit disappointed as I felt collectively more could have been done n this crowd watching nonsense n clapping them to me was frankly embarrassing, same as clapping opposition players just drives me nuts, as do those half n half scarves.
I support Celtic n the enemy is anybody we play.
Hail hail.

{Ed007's Note - Everything you mentioned there gets right on my wick too lol

22 Oct 2016 15:04:54
One thing I'd say about Rogic is that whilst he was snuffed out, I still felt like he was the one person who could hold the ball and make something happen. His pass in the first half was world class and very probably should have led to a goal. The reason I mention this is some people still question what he brings. Even when marked out the game, he got a few yards and almost created a goal from nothing.

22 Oct 2016 19:55:32
Agree with your team ED! No way can bitton be allowed to play! And big jozo for kolo for me to! Armstrong in next to brown over mcregregor! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻.

23 Oct 2016 13:56:40
Hail Ed my team is Celtic, couldn't care less about anybody else, players managers, fans or whatever, Celtic first Celtic last Celtic overall.
Poet, your spot on about rogic, when he got the ball n managed to get away from 2 or three of their players trying to pressure, his eye 4 a pass n runs were a real danger. As I said previously we just didn't get our good players on the ball enough, defenders r there to defend, I was a centre half, also played every other position on the park too n i was a ball playing centre back but first n foremost current. The other thing is while u can score goals with the centre half picking out a ball over the defence, George Connelly like but generally you want your forward players on the ball in the right positions high up the park n when u don't press your inevitably nearer your own goal, when we pressed on Wednesday we got the rewards in terms of being on the front foot.
Need to start more games like that n just attack teams more, the greatest form of defence after all is attack n u need to win the battles before u get the right to play.
Hail hail.

21 Oct 2016 11:13:11
Seen Griffiths in the paper gagin to play along with dembele against those monkey baskets, I'd love it personally, a new version of Larsson and sutton lol rip them to shreds!

21 Oct 2016 10:10:06
Message for Jimtim, after wednesday I am so disappointed especially after you promised myself and other tims this was an "easy" three points.
We await your apology for falsely building us all up.

21 Oct 2016 10:54:46
Or hows about you stop making stuff up?

21 Oct 2016 12:21:00
ha ha good comeback I'll take it lol.

21 Oct 2016 12:36:05
So is that an apology from YOU there old man?

21 Oct 2016 12:59:42
ME apologise? what for I went fishing and caught a tiddler lol.

21 Oct 2016 13:43:57
Making up quotes perhaps?

21 Oct 2016 13:48:32
Timalloy Timalloy nice but dimalloy. I know you like a tip, so here's one for free: when quoting somebody, quote what they actually said. I will apologise for giving you false hope though, on behalf of society. I also apologise for biting, but when somebody goes out of their way to start a public thread about me in an attempt to make a boob out of me, but ends up making a boob out of themself, I really can't help it.