Celtic Banter Archive January 21 2018

21 Jan 2018 19:19:16
Here guys I have a question for you.
If you had to choose between signing a creative player in the mold of lubo or naka
Or a right good CB which would you choose any Why?

21 Jan 2018 19:33:20
creative player for me with good vision and passing ability that is able to make killer passes and wants to do so instead of trying to get all the glory themselves by scoring too many times I end up shouting at the telly when there is a clear-cut chance at a good through ball splitting the defence and some of our players either don't have the vision and ability or are just greedy and try running it in themselves also the best form of defence is attack as they say.

{Ed007's Note - I'm not saying he's the answer to that problem but I thought Edouards's ball through to Lustig to set up Ntcham's goal was sublime.}

21 Jan 2018 19:37:08
The former for me: I'd rather see the bhoys play slick, exciting football be robust, hard to score against, and safe. I think we ought to be able to get a solid--if not right good--centre-back in without spending a fortune, but the flair players are never cheap.

21 Jan 2018 19:37:39
Kev we need a centre half big time we couldn't knit one out of the 3 or 4 we're meant to have who are all one step up from Effe.

21 Jan 2018 19:46:19
Both please.

21 Jan 2018 19:51:38
The team should always be built from the back, Celtic should have enough finances to do this, Celtic should have ample of players available in the first team, if not then the development team players should be ready to step into the first team, they should easily win the spl, even with injuries, if not there's something wrong with the set up.

Euorpe: Celtic should qualify each year and be content with the run that they get and the games they get and enjoy the games we have in Europe. because we won't go buying 8 mil + players. Europe can be done and its been proven. we don't need quality at the back, we can't leaked goals and make basic mistakes. hail hail. They are doing a good job, winning games while other teams won't play them football. the game we love has changed, even over the last couple of years. oh to be young again. lol. hail double hail.

21 Jan 2018 19:54:22
In all honesty it is 2 areas that need to be addressed so we should be looking to fill both. A Lubo/ Naka and a Paul Elliot would be a dream. Looking forward to the week ahead.

21 Jan 2018 19:56:16
Ed that was a lovely ball through.

{Ed007's Note - I actually think Edouard has more to his game than Dembele who is deadly in the box and is your old fashioned No.9 style like Lukaku or even Sutton/Hartson was whereas Edouard seems to have more ability when coming deep and running with the ball.}

21 Jan 2018 20:19:02
Ed I've got mixed feelings about Dembelle. If I was offered anything like the cash that was getting spoken of last year I'd bite your hand off.

{Ed007's Note - I'd be delighted with anything in the £20-25 million bracket and a 10% sell on clause.}

21 Jan 2018 20:40:08
I agree Ed, Edouard also seems happy to run himself ragged to open up space. Does a lot of good work in running channels. Dembele did a bit more of that last season, dunno if he's just not got his heart in it now. At the moment I'd give Edouard a good run and he'll score plenty. Don't agree with rotating strikers as the form player will want to score every game.

{Ed007's Note - Between his injury problems, stop/start season and the constant transfer speculation Dembele looks like he's playing with the weight of the world on his shoulders. An old friend of my dad's I talk to at Chapel thinks that Dembele looks like he is scared to push himself in case of another injury which if you watch him the last few months is possible.
I totally agree with you about Edouard, he looks like he has a raw talent and he's just turned 20. He'll need to get a run in the team to prove he's worth a £7 million outlay though but if Rodgers thinks he's worth that just now I won't argue, he's definitely going to be a cracking player in years to come imo.}

21 Jan 2018 21:22:44
Totally agree regarding Edouard. A good run in the team and he will score for fun. Who knows £7m might turn out to be a bargain. I like his attitude aswel.

21 Jan 2018 22:39:17
I read or someone posted that Dembele is psychologically scarred to push himself as he’s worried about his hamstring going again and it can be a common thing with those type of injuries.

{Ed007's Note - It was actually George McCluskey's uncle that said it to me, CB.}

21 Jan 2018 22:45:44
Ye but JFP1888 we need a creator as well.
I my opinion we have never really replace Naka
Truth be told no one goes to football to watch a CB.
We go to see guys like jinky dalglish mcstay lubo larsson and naka. Guys that excite us. Guys that get us off our seats.
That would be my preference.

21 Jan 2018 22:48:44
I think if we get £20m for dembele, we will be doing well, I think domestically a number 10 type to really hammer teams most weeks, however for Europe, I think centre half and maybe a right back ( I do like Ralston though) , is needed more.

21 Jan 2018 22:50:38
If we sold him last summer we could expect that kind of figure ed but a think his form this year will probably put a bit of doubt in clubs heads. As someone said earlier it would be best to keep him till the summer n give him a chance to rediscover last year's form.

22 Jan 2018 10:51:21
In relation to what do we do first, a creative player or a CB?

If you are in a boat and there are two or three holes in it, you don't use all the wood to block up one hole, you will still sink.

We should have the money to buy enough god for all the holes and to leave one, or two then the end result is the same. We had been talking about becoming a recognised CL team, and by we I mean Lawell and Rogers. This doesn't happen without investment in a better calibre of player than we have now.

Lets fix the fecking boat!

22 Jan 2018 11:33:00
I agree with what has been said here about Edouard. Looks like he has more strings to his bow than Dembele, looks more comfortable around the whole of the final third. Good, selfless movement. He was actually unlucky not to be end of that move where Ntcham scored as well. Of we got 25 for Dembele I'd gladly see 7 spent on Edouard and the rest spent on a centre half and an attacking mid.

21 Jan 2018 17:29:00
I just don't get this going away to a hot climate for warm weather training then coming back to a freezing Scottish winter, and be expected to perform, would it not be a better idea to go to Iceland and take advantage of their all weather facilities.

{Ed033's Note - i wonder whether high altitude training would be better than warm weather training.

21 Jan 2018 17:47:16
High altitude in a cold climate, the rest of the season would be a breeze.

21 Jan 2018 17:50:52
warm weather training mt arse, did big jock go to saltcoats?
4 weeks off in the winter and 30 grand a week, tell that to your da, or your grandad, lol.

21 Jan 2018 14:11:25
Edouard put in a good shift yesterday. Well taken goal and a great through ball to set up the cross for Ntcham's goal. HH.

21 Jan 2018 14:19:44
Agree with that Bob. I think with a run of games he would be banging the goals in. A bit difficult keeping 3 strikers happy though especially with the formation we play. If Dembele is away next season i would be happy with Griffiths, Edouard and Aitchison as back up. (if not out on loan) .

21 Jan 2018 14:37:50
Think he's trying to hard and it's effecting his game. He needs to relax and just let it come naturally.

21 Jan 2018
New image uploaded to the
Celtic Player Sightings page entitled, Totally Stokes colours. If i was Lambert id have told them to shove their contract.

21 Jan 2018 17:31:46
back to the colours of his boyhood club.

21 Jan 2018 09:01:47
So Craig Gordon has said he wanted the move to Chelsea last year. And now we have Demebele in a mess over Brightons enquiry and not in the right frame of mind to start against the mighty Brechin. I hope there is as many outs as there is ins this week.

21 Jan 2018 10:15:32
Never understood the cg Chelsea thing. There's a hundred better for the role he'd have had there. Sure his self confidence would think otherwise but he'd have been #2 at most. Guess the pension pot wouldn't suffer though.

21 Jan 2018 10:22:27
Gordon's comments are hardly endearing--what is he thinking? As to Moussa, he'll be grand. If Brighton and Palace represent the extent of his ambition however, he needs his head checked. Too many of Gordon's karate kicks maybe?

21 Jan 2018 11:03:06
Honest question, do you think Brendan is being properly back by the board in the transfer market? I sense a change in BR and I think he is starting to get fed up with Scottish football.

21 Jan 2018 11:12:21
If Brendan didn’t know before how hard it would be to get decent money out this board then he does now! Not saying he’s bored with Scottish football but he’ll know he can’t take our club to the level he would like to! Hope I’m way off, but I can’t possibly see us coming out this window stronger than when it started! But we’ve still got over a week of the window to go and I hope I get proved wrong!

21 Jan 2018 11:50:37
I live in hope there will be change this week, there has to be.

I gave this Board stick for the best part of a decade for not strengthening after Seville and building from a position of strength. If they make the same mistake this window trust me i will be the 1st person to pull the guns out of the holster.

It is simple back Brendan and act like a big Club or hand over the reigns to the many wealthy Tims out there who would gladly invest to take us where we should be.

I still believe we will get as many as 3 quality additions in this week, i hope i am right.

21 Jan 2018 11:51:26
The Board - in crisis - turned to him and he more than delivered.
OK he was backed initially and built an invincible treble winning side, but since then we have failed to address key positions in successive windows and it is obvious we lack CL quality.
However, the injuries we have suffered this season alone, coupled with a loss of form to certain players would have scuppered most teams, yet here we are 8 points clear top of the league, a trophy in the cabinet, into the 5th round of the SC and preparing for a tie in the knock-out stages of the Europa and we still have a week of the window to sort out a few deals - in and out the door.
I have never been a Gordon fan and hope he is replaced soon and as for Moussa - he is a far cry from the £40m player of last season and needs to concentrate on his fitness and form if he hopes to get that dream move beyond the likes of Brighton and another 5 months where he is will be better for him and Celtic long term.

21 Jan 2018 12:01:39
That is something that has driven me to even more drink over the decades, only reacting in times of crisis. the board must know what needs to be done and if Brendan has real ambition to move us up a level he knows he needs players. He must have received assurances that he would be backed. I have no doubt about that and that is my pillar of hope for this window.

We all watched us in the CL and what needs to be done is as glaringly obvious as a guy dressed as a clown at a funeral.

I'll never do that again!

21 Jan 2018 12:07:36
Rodgers knew fine well what sort of funds would be available to him prior to taking the job otherwise he wouldn't have taking it. We can't buy just for the sake of it and Rodgers wouldn't waste money on buying for the sake of it either. The CL quality of player we need to take us to the next level is very difficult to attract to this league. If a player is not better than what we already have then there is point buying is there? The board know Rodgers would not be happy if they failed to try and get any players he has requested if they became available.

21 Jan 2018 12:17:18
This is where our scouting needs to come in. We need to find foreign young players as there aren't any of the calibre we need currently at the club or we wouldn't be in the position we are in. The talk of becoming a CL team had only one prerequisite, attracting better players. Are we saying we will never get layers again in the Wanyamma or VVD mould? that's what needs to be done because you're right, players currently at that level are almost always at clubs in better leagues and on a shitload more money.

We herd a lot abut how the guy we brought in was to scout, this is where he earns his cash.

21 Jan 2018 22:43:47
Magicpole we are not the only team scouting players. Its maybe about taking a chance on them but loads of teams are scouting the same player.