Celtic Banter Archive August 21 2014

21 Aug 2014 19:18:47
A wee apology to Ronny

After the Legia game I might have reacted badly to the defeat and the manner of the defeat. I felt Ronny didn't know the players at all, was not commanding enough and was quoting straight from the Football Managers Guide for beginners.

Since then he has come out and said he realises at Celtic he needs to deliver results whilst implimenting his own style and building his own team. He also said the other day when he woke up the morning after Legia he felt like he murdered someone the night before. Good to see a bit of the fear :-)


Felt we were defensively naive (again) in the first half which Ronny seemed to sort out at half time but was definitley edge of seat stuff. No point running forward if we're going to concede 4 goals and thought the short corner at the end was to keep possession rather than risk a counter-attack from them.

Its good to see from Ronny that he knows Celtic need to work and winning is not a given right - something that seemed to happen in Lennon's charge and he doesn't seem to suffer fools gladly which is alway a plus

Like a broken record but I hope we get a decent Centre Forward in before this window closes, please!

The best centre forward I ever saw in real life was Colin Stein, I think it was pumpherston juniors v armadale thistle, I was just a we bhoy, but I remember how he played, then he went to hibs, then rangers, what I am trying to say is stein would'nt get a chance these days, he was'nt playing in a top league, he was scottish, not as good as these continental chappies, the majority of people on this site are weecraiigy brown devotees, "its no because I am a s**** manager, its because there is no good scottish footballers anymore, "anyway that's what I think.

Oh the pressure of the best Centre Forward i've seen in real life, I don't know. I have my favourites though :-)

I know what your saying Aindoh its an argument you hear frequently about Scottish football and just liking big bruisers. Jimmy Johnstone wouldn't make it these days etc. When you look at the players who are going doing alright in the English Premiership - McGeady, Naismith (I'd say so), McCarthy etc these guys aren't bruisers.

Is this what you mean?

Mrs E the problem is there are too many fans out there who are blinkered as to actually how bad squad was, because they were just happy that lennon was manager cause he fitted this "celtic family" nonsense.

I know people on this have a problem with me cause I am of the opinion lennon should never been appointed due to fact he was a rookie (thought we lived in a democracy) but that's only reason. If an alternative rookie was installed instead of lennon, he would of been out door long time before lennon.

Playing 4-3-3 was a formation that was going to fail. I personally think he went with this formation trying to get best out a sub-standard squad.

I had never heard of Delia before, but googled his managerial stats and was impressed. I genuinely believe he will do well in his reign as manager.

DN, we live a democracy with an unelected Head of State ;-)

I totally agree about the Rookie and I thought Lennon did well for a rookie, with the tools he had that is. I wouldn't take the season 2012/13 away from him, the last 16 of the CL, league & Cup double was brilliant. His first full season we did all get behind him and it did all look promising - League and Scottish Cup final, SPL last day. Lennon was always so close yet so far away - probably his inexperience. You're right, 10 years ago it would never of happened.

I have agreed with some of your points about egos at Celtic particulary since Rangers went belly up and I have found this really frustrating.

That's all i'm agreeing with you over though, don't want folk thinking i'm going soft.

With the Youth, I do believe he played the guys worthy of a start/chance. I know some think giving them a run in the team would have made the difference, I don't think so. He also brought out the best in some very average player like Mulgrew (as you said the squad isn't the best) and had faith in Forster when none of us did. I wish Lennon all the best and hope he does go on to do well.

With Ronny he isn't awful experienced either but doesn't seem so naive, which is good. I did react after the Legia game but then Celtic family or not, a few of us wanted Lennon gone 3-0 down at Killie.

I'm glad Ronny's playing to the current squad's strengths now rather than just quoting 4-3-3 which works for me.

Mrs E your not going soft, your seeing sense.

21 Aug 2014 17:41:39
I am looking for some feedback to hopefully prove I am not loosing it. Watching Izzy this season is driving me mad especially last night when so much is on the line. Since he got back from the World Cup he gives the ball away in dangerous territory, gives away way too many free kicks and in general is just not playing well at all. Am I the only one or is Ronny seeing this but keeps playing him, maybe he just needs more rest. I would rather give a youth player a chance or play Efe at left back until Izzy is ready to come back.

Yes he has been really inconsistent but we are just into the season! He's been doing well in attack with his delivery s maybe in the Cl we should play 3 at the back with wing backs for more cover and counter attacking. Would let izzy Mathews/izzy get forward with good cover.

Izzy is a bit of a bombscare in europe and has been since his injury but to say put ambrose in there is jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Ambrose is one of the dodgiest players we have had at the club for a while IMO and although he can get away with it more often than not in the SPL he gets found out in europe. I would stick with Izzy until we have signed a replacement whenver that is!

I think Izzy needs real competition and I don't think the youth players are good enough for that (unfortunately). I would like to see a decent left back brought in.

Izzy love of taking the ball up into attack was obviously noted by Maribor who seemed to have an extra man on that side trying to stop Izzy. Despite the pressure I thought Izzy did well.

@3, I have'nt watched any of the youth games, and I don't know how good or not the young fullbacks are, (apart from fisher)but maybe there is an undiscovered gem in there, thing is they never get the chance, cause the management have been frightened of taking a chance with a young guy in an important match, maybe RD will be different, I hope, although I don't understand why Henderson not being given a role in midfield.

He has been like that for a long time; very good going forward and delivering crosses - but terrible defending.
He lacks basic positional sense and since his injury he shirks tackles.

Aindoh, I don't think there is a hidden gem.

They aren't good enough and its time some them moved on. Harsh but true and as RD said, he doesn't give away minutes - they have to be earned.

21 Aug 2014 09:32:07
Wee rumour here gents, celtic have reportedly bid 3 million euros for sporting gigon striker stefan scepovic 6 ft 2 inc 23 goals in 38 games in the Spanish second division last season think he is 22 might be a good one .

21 Aug 2014 15:54:01
also saw this this morning mate, and without knowing a lot about him just watched him on youtube

looks a good player with a good variety of goals and although its youtube had good movement for his goals

maybe this is the striker to get on the end of all the wingers' crosses that we desperately need

Looks like finisher mate that's what we need . We have got plenty of ball players we need an out and out finisher and this guy looks like a good one . would have liked aron johannson but doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Hes 24, and had 10 clubs already, (problem/wild child /ego/ late developer,?) last season was his best, only the second time over 10 goals, a 1 in 3 career avg, another cheap/ project/ hope for the best? if he comes I hope he's a player as we can't keep recruiting average /crap strikers, we have 6 and counting .

A bit left field I know but I fancy big chris wood from Leicester City 6.3 inch big strong forward not the greatest record but he done pretty well in the championship . type of build and power that we haven't got! But from what I have seen of scepovic he knows where the goals are positioning and movement is good he has a better record than some at our club!

Chalky

Wood was mentioned a few years back while rotting at WBA. I would be happy with him.

21 Aug 2014 20:31:25
I might be a bit unfair here but sounds worrying like a Daryl Murphy/ Chris Killen type. Never seen the guy play though tbf

Who do some fans think we can sign . The strikers within our budget are always going to be out of the top grade of international strikers. We are not in the market at this time for, Carroll, Torres, or Suarez we just have to shop in a different market .

21 Aug 2014 00:29:17
I don't post much on here so I make it quick great result but I am getting fed up with walker, proven and nicholas telling how celtic are bad during games thete paid to call not analayse one team. need to remember would be nothing without the CELTIC HAIL HAIL

Am in agreement with that, Charlie boy has been doing it for years

Maybe if we played better they might have something better to say?

They always have much more negative comment than positive and seem to fall into the SLY 'party line' with an anti -Celtic agenda.
They have sold their souls - apart from Provan who has always been a blue-nose and major critic.
The commentator is another sphincter who has a competition with himself to see how many times he can mention Sevco during our games.
On the other hand I would buy Jeff a pint any time - he's an honorary Tim.

Fed up with all the negativity sprouting on this site. We have completely changed direction in the way we play and that is going to have an effect on our play as we saw during the Legia games. This stuff takes time and as the players get fitter and the coaching slowly but surely starts to sink in we will see big improvements. I think we saw that last night and I have the feeling that Ronny will only be satisfied when his Team paly with no mistakes which I am happy to se because he will never be satisfied and good on him. Keep the Faith Bhoys, it's getting there. Hail Hail

I don't think it's anti Celtic but create controversy to keep in work. If they say we did well then they would be seen as towing the party line. When former players criticise then people react=publicity=sales=pay. bunch of highland dancers.

Former players from that cheating lot from Govan have always seen and reported the bright side and only the bright side .

What bright side?.