Celtic Banter Archive May 20 2014

20 May 2014 19:18:53
Not usually a conspiracy theorist but the revelation on tonight's news that bt sports have been paid to show sevco games is an effing disgrace. even worse that BBC news didn't even mention it. thought I might call the phone in on radio Clyde to register my disgust but funny enough that's finished for the season as well. good timing then. what did celtic know about this?:what about hoops fans who might have subscribed to this channel. as I've said its an absolute disgrace and a total cover up as far as I'm concerned. how can it benefit scottish football to pay broadcasters to show sevco v stenhousemuir.no offence meant to stenny fans.

{Ed007's Note - Remember who went to London with Doncaster for talks about the TV deal. Did having the subsidised TV exposure help Sevco when they were negotiating sponsorship deals? It turns out Scottish football was actually subsidising a TV company to broadcast a match where the TV company were forced to apologise on air over the sectarian and racist songs being sung by Sevco fans in February 2013, how is that for the good of the game? As if Rangers/Sevco hadn't embarrassed the Scottish game enough with their cheating, financial skulduggery and subsequent liquidation.}

Lawell really has to answer to our support now . He has to make a statement explaining what went on in London . Instead of SPL paying ESPN the £250,000 a year to show Sevco they could have cut their losses and shared the money round the clubs who were actually being televised . The halls of Hampden are really rotten to the core . DH

{Ed007's Note - Don't hold your breath.}

Is there any way we can join up with other Celtic forums and ask Lawwell for an explanation . Celtic fans should at least deserve an explanation when The Rangers are getting unfair treatment which is to their advantage .

Sooner lawell goes the better.

Sooner Lawell goes the better?

Lawell helped get Scottish football a tv deal that was very unlikely in coming.

Now I have not seen or heard about this deal given to bt sports to play the sevco "shame game", as I live in OZ.

Sounds a bit to me like we will pay you x amount of cash to get the gullible loyal bears to sign up to your overpriced and under subscribed tv channel if you pay Scottish football an annual fee of x amount. Business dealings worldwide are full of little sweeteners or brown envelopes.

Lawell I think has done a marvellous job at Celtic and before everyone jumps down my throat he doesn't spend enough on the team. I have said before maybe they have no confidence in lennons decisions of who to spend the money on.

We need to be serious and realise although athletico can get players cheap; win la liga and champion league finalists they are playing in one of the best leagues in the world and their restrictions on work permits are far more lenient than ours allowing them to find cheap south American players. As well as Spanish players who are technically better than Scottish players.

{Ed007's Note - Come on FB, the TV deal was already in place and was then renegotiated. Nowhere else in the football world does a league pay the broadcasters for broadcasting matches, it defeats the whole purpose of having TV deals.
This is from companies that refused to pay for rights to broadcast the play-off matches between Hibs and Hamilton Accies, so the SPFL are allowing them to broadcast them for free.}

My laptop keeps stalling, I disagree with you guys, I think, because of the size of their support, The rangers should be televised, therangers should be included, if you exclude them, itwill turn into paranoia, no one likes us we don't care, we arra peepul, all that kind of thing, at least this way the rest of the british/european viewing public can see/hear what rangers are really about, I never seen the news report about paying bt money, it does'nt sound right, methinks there is some creative reporting going on.

{Ed007's Note - If Sevco wanted to make sure their games were broadcast I'm sure their 500 million worldwide fans would have rather paid money to their new wee club to watch them broadcast on RancidTV. In their accounts up to 30th June 2013 Sevco received £778,000 from broadcasting rights, so the rest of Scottish football subsidised them getting over 3/4 of a million pounds for playing in what is basically an amateur league, add to that sponsorship would be higher because of TV exposure - and you think that's ok?
If there is some creative reporting going on I'm sure that Peter Lawwell and his SPFL friends will make a statement to put all our minds at rest and make public the 5 Way Agreement to prove the deal wasn't part of it.
This stinks to the heavens and like most things in Scottish football that stink Peter Lawwell is in it up to his neck.}

The only way Lawwell is going to take notice is through complaints made to UEFA or serious protests outside Celtic Park. No point even suggesting withholding ST money cause our support won't do that. The man's played divide and conquer with our support to the point we're all squabbling amongst ourselves while he's laughing all the way to the Bank, it's time we start demanding answers!

I think we all know Lawell is driven by money whether for Celtic or his own back pocket.

The only way PL will take any notice of us is if we hit Celtic FC where it hurts ie financially.

It's a shame really that Integrity and honesty has lost out to money.

Time for a huge shake up at our Club, time for honesty and integrity to replace Balance Sheet totals.

You'd wonder what Brother Walfraid makes of it all.

My one big fear is that we're sickened by what we know about, but what about what we don't know.

It's time for all Celtic fans to stand up and be counted.

Celts for Change - Sack the Board, Back the Team!

@frewbhoy there was ALWAYS going to be a TV deal. Lawell never saved the day, don't know where you got this from.

I don't think Brother Walfrid would have any views on this deal. I don't know of any view Brother Walfrid had of the people . Did he ever speak about them?
However if Lawwell has had any role in giving the people a life line, then he would need to explain fully to the Celtic fans .

Ed great job as always, a wee question as I have no idea. What are Celtics figs financially pre Lawwell to where we are now. Are we a more prudent club, do we spend more now or pre Lawwell. Difficult to assess I know due to recesson and the dead club but just wondered.

{Ed007's Note - We obviously spent a lot more pre-Lawwell with deals like the £6m fees for Sutton and Hartson and £5.75 for Lennon but credit where it's due, Lawwell has overseen increasing revenues and a reduction in debt. I'd say that right now CFC are in the best financial position they have been in years.}

Thanks ed your a star, yet the man gets it in the neck no matter what. considerin what happened at the said dead club we are doing no bad lol.

20 May 2014 08:43:25
So, our possible 2nd Q. Round opponents have been confirmed as:

- Malmo (SWE)
- TNS (WAL)
- St Pat's (IRE)
- Cliftonville (NIR)
- KR (ICE)
- Stromsgodset (NOR)
- HB (FAR)

The draw will take place on 23 June, the game's will be played on 15/16 and 22/23 July.

Guarenteed it's going 2 be malmo. Is stormgodset no johansen's old mob?

Hopefully it's one of the three Celtic clubs, don't fancy an expensive trip to Scandanavia before going on holiday in August! I think Stromsgodset is a cert but, as you said GB, that's Stefan's old club!

20 May 2014 13:55:00
really hoping for a cliftonville game again. was great atmosphere last year for the away leg although there pitch has looked increasingly dodgy near the end of the year

maybe i'm a bit bias anyway with living in belfast

Hopefully a wee trip to ireland, St Pats

Kieran, do they not play on a 4G pitch?

20 May 2014 16:31:41
yea they do but compared to when we played them at the start of the year the pitch recently has been terrible

i go to quite a few games and they had a few at end of season at home and to be honest at the time I wished they were away cause the ball was bouncing like a rugby ball at times

Aye either of the Irish clubs, although St Pats are in the middle of their season and would be fitter . A wee run down to Wales before you have border checkpoints (ha! Ha! ) would be ok either .

Stromsgodset don't look up to much. Just been watching them there against Stabaek (who I had to win and both score). Just need Cork to win now with Limerick to score also. Come on the rebel army for a nice 1200 quid!

Well done JimTim a nice little earner there . One day I'll get that bet up . Do it every couple of days but still no returns . DH

Cheers DH. My lass has already gotten wind of it though so it could have been a lot better. Not that I'd recommend gambling but a wee treble with both teams to score has faired me pretty well. Without talking out my arse, I've definitely won more than I've lost. On the note, it's ridiculous how many times Celtic have let me down for decent money.