Celtic Banter Archive January 20 2019

 

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20 Jan 2019 18:41:38
OK guys I know there are big NFL fans out there interested in tonight's two big games. As usual I spoke to my less than partial cousin in Boston who is a MASSIVE Patriots fan but he surptised me with these two bets, well not first one as he took New Orleans -3 (odds 10/ 11) to win at home over LA Chargers (The Saints are formidable at home)
In the other game his partisanship showed in taking patriots +3.5 (you rarely get plus points for New England as they are usually favourites) but he told me he is wary because the Pats have been poor away from hom this year. For any neutrals the best bet may be in the total points market and my cousin is going UNDER 57.5 (odds Evens) his thinking is Patriots away points average is around 19.

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20 Jan 2019 19:40:23
I've been a huge NFL fan for over 30yrs, unfortunately i follow the Bengals lol
The Saint's play the Rams tonight mate.
The Pats v The Chiefs should be a great game.
In week 6 this season the Pats won at the Chiefs 43-40 So I'm expecting a high scoring game tonight but I see the Chiefs winning this one as the Pats are 0-5 on the road in the championship games.
Wins for both the Saints and Chiefs is what I would go for.

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20 Jan 2019 20:33:10
ha ha ha my cousin will kill me getting the LA team wrong
Johnbhoy I have been following the KC Chiefs and know they are a high scoring team, but this is in affect a semi final and are usually low scoring, hope you are right because it will make for a better spectacle.
Anyway for my cousin's sake GO PATS.

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21 Jan 2019 08:27:50
So this is Brady's 9th Superbowl appearance and he has 5/ 8 so far. Timalloy Who would bet against your cousin having another great party this year?

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20 Jan 2019 16:46:23
So according to the BBC sevco are fighting us for the signing of Powell ๐Ÿ˜ are we still interested in him? Don't know much about the guy I know 007 has commented on him before would he be a realistic target and for what position.

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{Ed007's Note - It's Nick Powell we're trying to sign, they're wanting Enoch.}

20 Jan 2019 19:50:13
You've mentioned him before as a player BR likes haven't you Ed? Although were Wigan not looking for a good few quid?

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{Ed007's Note - He's out of contract in the summer, Kev.}

20 Jan 2019 20:40:02
What's the chances of us getting him Ed?
I had read before we were after him but I thought it was just paper talk.

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{Ed007's Note - 50/50, we either will or we won't.}

20 Jan 2019 22:02:08
I read that today Ed but I'm sure the last time his name popped up there was a figure of about ยฃ6m being bandied about.

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{Ed007's Note - You'd easily get that kind of money for Powell.}

20 Jan 2019 23:00:00
Nice one centurian nice one. i'll get my coat.

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21 Jan 2019 01:07:54
Eds Iโ€™ve noticed we have been linked with Maja from Sunderland but they want him back this guy has been linked all window I think this has got to be rubbish as we have Weah Vayo and Burke surely we donโ€™t need another ED?

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{Ed007's Note - Maybe we'll need another one in the summer.}

20 Jan 2019 17:18:29
Look away Timalloy.
Celtic have now got a home draw in the scottish cup 7 times in a row.
If you count away to Albion Rovers and away to East Kilbride both being played at Airdrie along with another home tie. Its 10 ties without actually going away to a team playing at their home ground.
Away to Stranraer in 4th round 2016 was the last proper away game.

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20 Jan 2019 17:44:58
Having drawn St Johnstone in the cup we will be playing them three times in 10 days hereโ€™s hoping for three victories as these type of fixtures donโ€™t often have the same outcome. oldkilly.

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20 Jan 2019 18:06:39
oldkilly, The last time we played away to a premier league club in the scottish cup was Dundee Utd in the Quarterfinals way back when we played them a think 4 times in a fortnight.

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20 Jan 2019 18:16:02
Leon Bhoy canโ€™t remember how those games panned out v D Utd maybe you can help . oldkilly.

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20 Jan 2019 18:27:51
We drew 1-1 at tannidice and won the replay With a few goals 4-0 or 4-1.
I think we took 4 or 5 off them in the league at Celtic Park.
The league cup final, was that 2-0.
Away to double check.

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21 Jan 2019 09:08:37
1-1, 2-0, 4-0, 3-0. Remember them being quite bad tempered, 6 red cards shown across the four matches. Familiarity breeds contempt!

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20 Jan 2019 17:18:29
Look away Timalloy.
Celtic have now got a home draw in the scottish cup 7 times in a row.
If you count away to Albion Rovers and away to East Kilbride both being played at Airdrie along with another home tie. Its 10 ties without actually going away to a team playing at their home ground.
Away to Stranraer in 4th round 2016 was the last proper away game.

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20 Jan 2019 18:32:53
It's a carve up. The sfa are bending over backwards to help us. The games played at airdrie count as proper away games.

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20 Jan 2019 16:38:42
Home time against St Johnstone in the cup should be a good tie.

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20 Jan 2019 17:00:18
St Johnstone are on a great away run in the league.
They have won 6 away league games in a row without conceding a goal.
The last away goal they let in was away back in september v hearts, some 9 and a half hours ago.
Having said that I would have took that tie before the draw was made.

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20 Jan 2019 17:04:43
Just another step towards the quadruple this season RAW ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ.

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20 Jan 2019 17:21:50
Fingers and toes crossed as we speak Stevie. :D.

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20 Jan 2019 17:21:50
Fingers and toes crossed as we speak Stevie. :D.

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20 Jan 2019 14:59:00
For a wee change of scenery, I was up at Pittodrie for the Aberdeen vs Stenny game yesterday. How Scott McKenna has a ยฃ10m price tag is baffling. Watching him up close, he isn't the quickest and was at fault for Stenny's goal. Personally I don't think that he is at the levels we require.

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20 Jan 2019 16:12:51
Couldn't agree more. He is vastly over rated and turns like an oil tanker.

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20 Jan 2019 16:49:19
He's fecking rotten.

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20 Jan 2019 17:25:11
Funnily enough RAW I said that he should be nicknamed UHT for how long it takes him to turn.

He may be one of the best centre backs from outside Celtic, but personally heโ€™s just not for me.

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20 Jan 2019 17:25:11
Funnily enough RAW I said that he should be nicknamed UHT for how long it takes him to turn.

He may be one of the best centre backs from outside Celtic, but personally heโ€™s just not for me.

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20 Jan 2019 17:58:46
If we're even considering McKenna, our scouting system is all to feck.

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20 Jan 2019 20:28:21
McKenna is no better than ajer simunovic or Hendry. I'd prefer to see ajer in cm. Think his power in the holding role would be an asset. Plus the additional height in cm might improve our woeful set pieces by providing another option.

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20 Jan 2019 23:26:34
Rather pay the extra and get Benkovic permanent.

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20 Jan 2019 23:28:24
Would rather pay extra and get Benkovic permanent.

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20 Jan 2019 14:09:04
I know we have our own thoughts and reservations about VAR regarding Celtic matches in particular; but I've just seen a blatant penalty denied for Man City (Sterling) on the same side of the penalty box as the linesman and twelve yards from the referee and both missed it.
As Ed has already mentioned there are referee mistakes and poor officials all over the place and this technology will embarrass them.

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20 Jan 2019 15:56:07
Sometimes VAR won't be the perfect thing.

But it certainly won't fail as much as the current method.

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{Ed007's Note - Yeah because having ex-referees or current refs and linesman watching video replays and then agreeing with their fellow ref on the pitch will REALLY help cut out any errors.}

20 Jan 2019 18:52:37
But there's no excuses. They can't say they only have split second to see it, they get the replays like us and if they still fail then they have no where to hide.

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{Ed007's Note - And? Beaton had a clear site of the Morelos incidents, do you think fellow referees would overrule him using VAR? He said he seen them clearly and even weeks after it he still says he made the right decisions - VAR would just back up his opinion. As we've seen they don't need to hide now so what difference will VAR make? What if VAR decided a Celtic player should be sent off for something the ref didn't think was a red card offence, would you be happy?
If VAR can lead to match-fixing accusation in the Bundesliga think how easy it will be in Scotland even compared to now?
The suggested system is different from the one we seen at the World Cup where the ref looks at things again, now it'll be a panel of refs & linesman and probably become jobs for the boys for retired refs. Even when VAR has been used there's still wrong decisions being made so what exactly is the point of it? It's just another opinion being given that we can all argue about - or is VAR's decision final even when it's wrong?}

20 Jan 2019 19:48:21
The only way people would ever accept VAR up here is if the panel consisted of foreign refs and even then you couldn't guarantee mistakes won't be made but then we wouldn't accuse the panel of favouring one team over another.

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{Ed007's Note - ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

20 Jan 2019 20:12:50
Var is coming. To many people want it for it not to happen.

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{Ed007's Note - It probably will and then we can add VAR to the list of things that make me not want to do this any more.}

20 Jan 2019 21:05:03
Yip it is definitely coming. but think on this. The same bias referee and linesmen call a halt and refer it to. Wait for it. another few bias referee and linesmen. How will that help. if anything it only tries to legatimise the skulduggerry . the only way forward imho is unbiased, professional foreign referees.

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{Ed007's Note - At least some people understand....

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20 Jan 2019 23:38:30
Well anytime I have seen VAR it has overturned Incorrect decisions which is fine by me.

However yes we do have corrupt refs here in Scotland but our board do little to chase any of this despite the blatant differences in their decision making.

Not really vars fault.

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20 Jan 2019 13:47:32
Has there been any news on KT and Eddy's injuries? I read on the SLY Celtic website that LG is near a return but nothing on the other two?
I know a lot of the posts these days are about the transfer window, but having these guys back fully fit would be like 'new signings' and give us a real boost for the run-in.

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20 Jan 2019 14:58:55
Brendan saying he'll be back st start if next month kt that is.

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20 Jan 2019 16:30:10
Cheers Mally.

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20 Jan 2019 12:37:14
Sorry for repost but the other thread is difficult to find now and the debate on bias against Celtic hadn't concluded.

@Jabba, you appeared to have avoided answering the question I posed to you earlier. Should I expect a reply?

By the way there are numerous examples of there being a pro-Rangers and anti-Celtic influence within the refereeing fraternity and the SFA.

1. Jim Farry deliberately holding up our signing of Jorge Cadete.

2. Hugh Dallas sharing anti-Catholic material with his colleagues within the SFA. The fact he thought it was OK to do it on a works email shows that there were others within the organisation that shared his prejudices.

3. Campbell Ogilvie helping Rangers cover up their use of EBTs and circumvent the player registration rules and thus cheat every team in Scotland for over a decade.

4. The SFA deliberately misleading the Lord Nimmo Smith enquiry into Rangers' use of EBTs and thus ensuring that Rangers were allowed to get away with their cheating with minimal punishment.

5. Bobby Tait the self-confessed Rangers fan, asking to referee his boyhood heroes in his last match in the 10-in a row season and being allowed to do so. The score was 0-0 at fulltime and Tait played way too much injury time which backfired on this occassion as Kilmarnock scored.

6. Rangers riculous amount of consecutive home ties in the cup after they resurrected from the dead. Don't recall the exact amount but think it was around 17 in a row, which has a riculously low probability of happening.

7. Granting Rangers a UEFA license to play in Europe despite knowing they had an outstanding tax liability. This was proven at Craig Whyte's trial.

8. Ignoring the rules regarding fit and proper person status, when they allowed Dave King to come back to Rangers as a director. This was despite him being a convicted tax fraud and also residing over oldco Rangers when they liquidated and cheated the rest of Scottish football.

9. The SFA trying to ignore the league rules by trying to extend the season and help Rangers the year they got to the UEFA cup final.

These are just a few examples I can think off at the moment and these can be added to the list of examples already provided by Ed.

Now Jabba, can you provide examples like this were the SFA or referees have done anything like this to the benefit of Celtic? (I bet you can't)

Moving back to the officiating at the last Celtic v Rangers game, every one of the officials chosen on that day were all of a Rangers persuassion. Which raises the question why was this the case? When you factor in the phenomenon known as ingroup bias and look at the decisions made that day, then I think it is safe to say that the officiating was bias towards Rangers. Now I cannot say it was deliberately bias as ingroup bias can happen on a sub-conscious level but I think the people who choose that team of officials is as much to blame as the officials themselves for the bias, perhaps even more so.

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20 Jan 2019 14:18:57
Where's Eds examples? I must've missed that.

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{Ed007's Note - ......apart from the time Dougie McDonald and assistants got caught cheating and every time Kenny Clark speaks about deliberately denying John Hartson a penalty or what about Jim McCluskey openly telling anyone who would listen in a pub stating he would never give "That bastard Mahe" a penalty.....

20 Jan 2019 14:27:59
Great post RodgersAtWork, SFA have been getting away with corruption for far too long. Really can't wait to run sevco off the park next derby. Here we go 10 in a row.

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20 Jan 2019 15:09:53
I don't get how our own supporters can't see that we've been shafted by SFA and referees for years and continue to be shafted even now. There's usually a blatant penalty/ offside goal that goes against us every game. The results usually paper over the cracks.

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20 Jan 2019 16:54:03
You forgot to mention allowing newco admission to the league despite the absence of three years audited accounts which I believe is mandatory for everyone else. Thought it was interesting that the Sevco game was called off on Friday whilst they had a friendly at the asbestos dome on Sat which allowed them to field their marquee signings which I would assume would help to inflate the attendance and generate much needed income to offset their current overspending.

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21 Jan 2019 11:47:25
Looks like Jabba done a runner as he knows he has been bested in the debate on whether or not there is a bias against Celtic in Scottish football.

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20 Jan 2019 11:21:32
Morning Eds no bad wee run out for the Bhoys last night I thought Ralston is starting to look like he could save the club some cash by being the RB we need. Burke did ok u can see a player there and Weah looking sharp positive and hungry to do well these are all pluses do u think that with these pluses that could be us done it m the market barring any late flurry by the likes of Porto or even what Brown decides to do?

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{Ed007's Note - I don't see Ralston becoming first-choice RB when Lustig leaves in the summer. The manager himself only 3 days ago said he expected more moves in and out this month.}

20 Jan 2019 13:11:11
Think he will be good enough to be one of the 2 for next season though ed? Maybe not first choice but wouldn't be worried when he is put in.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd be happy enough with Ralston as back-up to a new RB, Kev, he seems to have really turned a corner in his game and in time could turn into a cracking player for us imo.}

20 Jan 2019 14:23:51
I think that tae ed. A season of playing some games and then taken out again, I think he'll be really ready to push do the first team place full time.

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{Ed007's Note - On the form Ralston's shown over the past few weeks he would walk into any other SPL side but for me we need someone better in Europe and for the here & now to play over next couple of years and then see how Ralston develops.
I think his performances might have pushed the pursuit of a RB back until the summer when Lustig & Gamboa leave. If a RB comes in this window then Ralston needs to go out on loan to be playing games.
I see that's another 2 goals for Sinky, Kev - and it should have been a hat-trick - what's that he's at now, 11 goals?

20 Jan 2019 15:49:11
10 0r 11 ed with a few assists as well.

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{Ed007's Note - ๐Ÿ‘ Useless!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

20 Jan 2019 17:07:25
Ralston's energy levels are very impressive when you consider how little he's played in the past year. He never stopped bombing up and down the right side all night.

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20 Jan 2019 16:50:51
It's a total joke he gets selected over other players ed!
What does he bring to the team other than goals and assists?

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{Ed007's Note - Time he was replaced!! The coward!!}

20 Jan 2019 11:08:03
Ed, was the enquiry for Kalas always going to be about getting him in the summer? I read that the Bristol City manager said Chelsea had no recall option on him and obviously now BR has claimed it's not likely we'll bring anyone in. That could well be a bluff but it doesn't fill me with hope.

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{Ed007's Note - Well seeing as Kalas is being lined up as a possible replacement for Boyata it'll be for the summer when the Belgian leaves.}

20 Jan 2019 13:15:12
Cheers Ed. I think we should definitely be able to get through qualifiers with a new CB pairing but I don't understand the reluctance to cash in on Boyata - especially in the summer. Getting at least one CB used to the club woukd give us an even better chance. I'll live in hope that Benkovic is staying and that's the reason why.

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20 Jan 2019 14:17:31
Cheers Ed canโ€™t get over the fact Celtic going to let Boyata go for nothing.

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{Ed007's Note - It's sheer idiocy, it still sticks in my craw about John Collins and especially Larsson and the way the fans were conned in that one.}

20 Jan 2019 14:25:13
Boyata has obviously told them he's going nowhere till his contract is up so he gets a big signing on fee.

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20 Jan 2019 15:39:17
Still think BR thinks he can convince Boyata to stay me thinks.

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{Ed007's Note - There's not even been any talks - Rodgers has nothing to do with that - and Boyata's agent has confirmed he will leave in the summer.}

20 Jan 2019 23:27:03
Larsson earned the right to leave as he wished.

We wouldn't have got a massive fee anyway.

Guy scored almost a goal every game.

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20 Jan 2019 06:14:13
EDs do you know anything about the Gutman signing? Itโ€™s like we have taken in stuck him in reserves and are still looking at him not sure if going to sign him yet?

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{Ed007's Note - Gutman - who played as a trialist in a friendly against Arbroath yesterday - has signed and is still awaiting a work permit.}

20 Jan 2019 15:42:24
I think he will be put into the reserves not to replace Izzy or am I wrong.

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{Ed007's Note - He'll probably spend some time in the reserves and take over as back up to KT gradually over the next few months until izaguirre leaves in the summer.}

20 Jan 2019 16:52:09
I was in favour of Izzy being back up but after yesterday I'd play my six year old daughter over him.

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20 Jan 2019 12:09:27
Plenty of positives yesterday albeit only Airdrie. Brown looked back to normal, Boyata taking over from pinging balls out from the back, Bain solid and passed the ball well, Ralston MOTM for me, Sinclair amongst the goals (should've had another 2) Weah looks quality, plenty of options up front now to turn a game. The likes of having a possibility of bringing on Weah (LW) Burke (RW) and Bayo (ST) is a lightening attack. Only negative about yesterday was the pitch. For all the money spent on the new surface it's looked as worse as it has ever looked? Hopefully it'll get some much needed work done to it with all the home games coming up.

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20 Jan 2019 14:11:50
Brown was poor, really can't see what he brings to the team anymore.

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20 Jan 2019 14:25:37
Brown played well.

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20 Jan 2019 16:26:16
Brown had a good game. We still need him or a player of similar qualities in the team. Going to places like Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and Motherwell etc you need a bit of dig and fight and thatโ€™s what he brings to the table.

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20 Jan 2019 09:24:19
in my opinion. Our players are gutless. Self centred idiots. Izzy on the floor with 10 airdrie players round him giving him jip. 2 players came over and stopped it. Brown first Boyata second. See the trend? We will lose 10 in a row. And because of this gutless self centred nonsense that comes from our players. rubbishbags (edit this ed) . 2 players protected Izzy. And they're both leaving.

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20 Jan 2019 11:56:38
You should have edited that Ed, by not posting it๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ wow moonhowling at its finest!

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20 Jan 2019 14:26:27
Aaaawwwwwoooooo!

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20 Jan 2019 08:06:41
We've been here before sane vibe thers no more signngs of note you just know it, and Pedro better hope it doesn't bite us right on the erchie.

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20 Jan 2019 10:07:53
I expect us to sign a right back before the window closes. Any other signing will be dependent on whether or not we can offload some players.

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20 Jan 2019 11:10:03
Hope your right about the rb mate but it's the same sh$te every window we bum st the agms about how much money we've got but never spend it and am not talking about putting the club in bother, We've got qualifiers in early July and historically we struggle get them in just now for hids sake we'll lose weah Burke and benk when season finishes plus boyata and we have a real fight for this title . rant over.

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20 Jan 2019 11:39:31
As long as we have such a bloated squad draining the finances, we have more than enough cover for every position - albeit lacking in quality in certain areas. Hopefully we can offload a few soon, one way or another to make room and budget for at least one decent signing, although January limits the choice and availability?
BR has been well backed up to now, but a good few of his signings haven't worked out at all - (Hayes, Hendry, Gamboa, Compper, Eboue, Mulumbu etc) and maybe these loan deals were his only option?

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20 Jan 2019 12:14:57
Sfree oab they haven't worked but we need quality and if it means the squad gets bigger then too bad if it means success.

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20 Jan 2019 12:49:30
We will bring success with the squad we have, of that I am confident.

I know we would all love more players to come in, especially if it improves our first team.

However, our wage bill could very easily become unmanageable if we keep adding without getting rid of some.

At the moment we have a first squad of 36 players:

3 GKs (4 if you include Hazzard who is out on loan)
3 Rbs
3 Lbs
6 Cbs
7 CMs
3 AMC
4 Left Wingers
3 Right Wingers
4 Strikers

This is a crazy amount of players and we really need to start offloading. Luckily many of them will be leaving in the summer which will bring our squad numbers down considerably.

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20 Jan 2019 07:44:18
Good to see the sfa looking after the punters by selling the cup rights to another subscription channel cheers.

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20 Jan 2019 08:19:08
I've said about this before. While breaking slys monopoly was potentially in the interests of us punters it relied on free to air being able to compete financially to purchase the packages. Hasn't happened yet and everything keeps getting broken down further so there's bits of competitions here there and everywhere. Hate to think what the cost of subscribing to the three of them would set you back.

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20 Jan 2019 09:10:13
What else can they do to get revenue? Money is not exactly pouring into Scottish football so they have to go for the best deals available.

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20 Jan 2019 10:51:32
I don't remember the last time BBC Scotland televised a Celtic cup-tie; especially a home tie?

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20 Jan 2019 11:11:30
A know they have to raise money but it's always at the expense of the punters.

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20 Jan 2019 14:15:30
Looking after Sevco as always letting them cancel their game when the pitch was playable. Apparently they had a sickness bug nothing to do with the pitch.

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20 Jan 2019 01:08:28
Heard Andy Goram saying that Maurice Johnstone knew months before he signed for them that he was going.

He claims that he said to Ally McCoist at a Scotland squad meeting months before hand that he had been offered chance to sign for Rangers and asked Ally how he would like to be playing with him.

If this is true it just makes me detest him even more as he should not have led us on that he would be signing for us knowing fine well he wasn't coming.

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20 Jan 2019 07:44:47
RAW, I had forgotten all about him. Not worth the time or energy if you ask me. HH.

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20 Jan 2019 09:13:24
all in the past and he took his 30 pieces of silver.

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20 Jan 2019 09:30:23
What BobTheCat said. Gorams as bitter as they come. Wouldn't give his comments the time of day.

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20 Jan 2019 13:52:16
Wudnae believe Pie man goram if he said the sun was comin up the morra HH 3 to go till 10 in a row.

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20 Jan 2019 00:18:35
Alarm bells are ringing BR was asked about signings in his answer not sure still some time left. That doesnโ€™t sound to promising.

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20 Jan 2019 22:54:32
We've already made 3 signings so clearly the club are doing their job with regards to transfers, the club / manager will have other targets but they will depend on whether their club's are willing to sell. Calm down Rich ๐Ÿ˜‚.

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19 Jan 2019 23:12:08
Looking at some of the headlines about today's game and the bbc have decided to run with, and I quote:

"Bain's heroics deny Airdrie" ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚.

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20 Jan 2019 01:04:25
Bain had a cracking double save hopefully that's enough to take the gloves๐Ÿ‘.

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20 Jan 2019 08:08:22
Heโ€™s certainly worth a shot malkybhoy. Never let us down yet in the games heโ€™s played.

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20 Jan 2019 23:21:09
It was more of a 4 or 5 block. Thought his passing was pretty spot on too easy to retain possession when you have a keeper that doesn't kick it straight to the opposition.

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