Celtic Banter Archive July 01 2012

01 Jul 2012 21:53:49
Spain once again have shown the the way to play football at it's best. Has there ever been a greater team other than the lisbon lions of course?//

Spain are a fantastic team but Brazil 70 were better.

K-Dot.

Well the big debate has been between spain and brazil 70. If youre old enough to have watched the 70 wc youd remember the beauty of it. But when they came to w.germany 74 they only got through the group against us on gd. Spain have now been at the top for 3 comps and have proved themselves to be the best. They can now go to brazil in 2 years and rub it in. I also think their style is something the scottish game could aspire to. Youre right about the lions, they have their place in the evolution of that spanish style vía feyenoord, ajax, cryuff, Barcelona. Wonderful stuff.

Hi ed, last post was from me forgot to put name on. old age.

Last 2 posts were from me ed. Very very old age.

Although I couldn't believe the idiotic commentators on BBC calling the style of football boring WTF from the people who say the EPL is the best in the world get a grip. That's the way football should be played

Bigbr

It's a very close call between the two but for me, it's still Brazil. On flair..even, skill...even..graft...even but for me, that Brazilian side in 1970 had a killer instinct that I haven't seen in any side since. Oh yeah, they also had Pele

To the above comment "I also think their style is something the scottish game could aspire to"

Mr Levin is a visionary and has already played this formation - maybe Spain are copying a coach who is ahead of his time. lol.

K-Dot.

Ah wid say thit the posso ymca nder 18's 1970 wiz the best team thit av eveur seen,thur wiz a wee playur cauld patrick sumthin ur uthur whit a playur, hey n a nice lad tae wundur whit happint tae um?
he still kept kenny d oot the fkn teem oanywaey

01 Jul 2012 17:57:48
Mrs E good luck with Italy to "win" 007 tonight, as an extra incentive if Italy win you win a night out with wee Pat, a fish tea at the Ca'dora, Glasgow Cross jelly and ice cream after, of course, then you and wee Pat will be whisked to the Sara Heid to partake in the finest wines that hostlery can offer, then finally both of you will be taken to Bairds Bar to engage in some quaint Irish "folk" songs...lol Timalloy
PS your money is no good, as ED007 has set aside a healthy budget for
this which also includes any bail money {Ed007's Note - I think Mrs E should visit the LRT for a bevvy pre-season Tim. Eyes will be opened and dreams come true!!!!}

Mrs E is looking forward to getting back to Celtic Park and wouldn't mind a pre-season friendly & bevvy :-)

Mrs E why not combine them both and have a pre season friendly bevvy lol Timalloy
PS I think our ED007 was talking about another tavern "louden" clear.....
where every night they are "singing the blues" but on their juke box one song is played more than any other....
DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD

01 Jul 2012 16:43:17
Afternoon ed,

Been reading the papers, ano a bad thing, but I do hope the rumours of big Fraser signing are true, after a dodgey start he really cemented his place in the number 1 jersey, he looked more composed and more commanding in the box which is what we need.

But just interested on who else might come in personal I think one CB, n that's it as long as we keep hold of our players.

Anyway favour up for getting me followers on t**tter not doing to great.

Hail Hail

Cumby Bhoy {Ed007's Note - No probs Cumby, my twatter name is @JamesBoned007 if anyone on there follows me and needs a shout out then let me know. Even post your name on here and we can all talk p1sh on it lol.}

ED007, I would check your t**tter name, you lost a "d" as you are giving me and wee Pat some "material" lol Timalloy {Ed007's Note - oooooffftt lol, cheers Tim. @JamesBonded007 I am typing with my toes today!!}

Already got u ed, Hutchison67

Cumby Bhoy

Thats haundy ye kin yase that hole in yur leg is a cup holder

01 Jul 2012 15:16:57
I'm confused by all the corruption in light blue, let me see if I've got this right. Rangers are accused of fiddling the LIBOR rate and misselling season ticket derivatives while THE Barclays have misused EBTs to pay traders who are now leaving the club on free transfers because the champagne has run out. Rangers will be allowed to continue trading although in a lower banking status where they will only be in charge of a hollow ceramic pig in which coins are kept. THE Barclays have paid a 60million fine to the FSA (Football of Scotland Authority?) to compensate other clubs that were defrauded of titles, their coach Mr Bob Diamond faces the Treasury Select Committee next week where he may be found not to be "a fit and proper person" to manage a major club like THE Barclays. Meanwhile Rangers CEO Mr Green has attempted to take over another bank, Bury, while they were down on their luck after a major computer failure over the last 10 days or so. Mr Green's bid of £20 ,but with a promise of more to come from his consortium ,was rejected after which his Mum and dog left the consortium altogether thus leaving Mr Green on his own.(The dog took his £20 with him).
The SPL (Special Pleading for Light blues) are presently bullying/bribing SFL (Scottish Financial Lightweights) to accept Rangers as a viable financial institution to be allowed to take deposits from customers next season without three years of accounts normally required of a bank to operate in SFL. THE Barclays insist their history is unbroken as all titles were paid for by the tax payer and any comments to the contrary are due to jealous fans of Old Firm rivals RBS.
Is that about it?

Bravo big chap well thote oot ya big midden,
(thats a plus fae pat)

01 Jul 2012 14:20:51
Alright Ed007,
Just catching up on some posts.
I hope you don't mind a reply @EFC Whitesocks post from 29 June about that Everton song ?
That song sounds about early 70's mate, what tune was it sang to ?

LFC had a similar song around then :
"We'll fight and no surrender,
We'll fight for the boys in red
We'll fight, fight, fight for Liverpool
The team that Shankly bred"

I used to have an old video with footage from about 1971, I think from a Panorama programme. Not the more famous 60's one though. This one was set in front of the Kop too, and there was a skinhead in there singing, old levi denim on, woolen LFC scarf tied cravat style. The tune was to the old American war song "Over there'.
I wondered if the Everton one was a counter to this, or vice versa ?
Anyway, my point really was :
a, the fighting / violence reference was just a symptom of the times and the scraps that went on at all games then and was trendy at the time.
b, there was no religious favouritism at EFC or LFC for one of the Old Firm in particular, it was there for both. I had family and mates who went to both merseyside teams and different lads shouted for Rangers or Celtic. I was the latter.
Sorry to prattle on. I like this old skool stuff.
And I need to educate Ed007 that the Celtic / Man Utd link is all in his head !
Lol.
If I find the video I'll post the link.
The Real KB (at least it makes a change from Newco stuff !) {Ed007's Note - Now now KB, you know I like Man Utd because my family landed in Ashton Under Lyne from Cork, I think I'm the only CFC fan that favours Real Madrid as well lol. And CFC had to show teams how to win the 'Big Cup'.}

Lol. I know.
I found a link to that Liverpool song :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eqOWpwlEqk&feature=bf_prev&list=PL4F9C0EC79A96F19E&shuffle=467239

Don't let the title fool you. It's nothing to do with all that caper as I said. Just the old skinhead / boot boy thing.
I might try to get a chant going at WBA - Celtic, Newco !
Celtic, Newco !
Celtic, Newco !
Anyway sorry to bore the a*se off the youngsters. At least Tim, wee pat and Mrs E can get The Bay City Rollers gear out again though.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - A lot of fans look at the Catholic/Protestant thing in England KB before deciding who to cheer on, it's bollocks mate. I have been all over at games and it is just the minority that buy into it. I have had more grief in England over following Utd than CFC, apart from Chelsea. YNWA was sung at OT after Munich ffs, before LFC or CFC even knew the words!!!!}

Was it b****cks !
Maybe the R&H original on the tannoy or something.
Haha, winding up **** you are.
The Rangers / Celtic thing at Liverpool and elsewhere was quite big in the 80s.
But I haven't heard it sung for many a year now.
Do you go to Utd games with your CFC colours on, or a badge. You don't own a half and half scarf do you ?
Fsake, the stalls outside of matches these days. Half LFC, half Cardiff outside of Wembley. Haha what's that all about.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Oh God no!!!! Until SI start making football scarves I don't wear any colours at games lol A wee badge on your jacket usually does the trick to let people know who you are. Remember KB, 'We do what we want'.....}

Hoi ! what do you mean Bay City Rollers gear AGAIN ? how old do you think I am lol. Mrs E

I hope we draw Celtic in the Europa when you get knocked out of the CL next month, that's all I'm saying...!
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - So it's ok if we all crash at yours? Remember the last time we papped your mob out :-)

01 Jul 2012 13:36:32
To compound more misery on rangers steven davis will join southhampton with a £2million pound signing on fee !


Skinnybhoy

01 Jul 2012 11:52:03
Just been reading Henry mcleish statement on the scotsman website. Its in typical politicians language but I think hes saying all of scottish football has to accomodate an entity he referred to as rangers. We are to ignore the tax scandal, dual contracts, financial doping etc. and hand the sport over to the type of people who congregated outside the sevco building last week. Even If you ignore it flying in the face of recent govt. attempts to eradicate sectarian behaviour, it confounds logic.
Yorkiebhoy.

01 Jul 2012 03:28:59
HISTORY certainly does seem to repeat, with the second time as farce. Or around these parts, with the second time also as a nefarious plan hatched between the SFA, SPL and SFA to have a newco Rangers parachuted into the First Division, instead of starting out at the Third Division.

The game’s authorities appear either unable or unwilling to grasp the mood of supporters across the entire country. The attempts by the governing bodies to avoid treating a still-forming club that will play out of Ibrox as they would any other new club are becoming increasingly desperate. The old Rangers were driven to extinction by unethical practices, yet the means chosen to address the problems created are unethical practices. How else to assess the threat to let refusenik lower division sides effectively rot as other, more pliable members are co-opted into an SPL2? The “lucrative” package of reconstruction proposals – with a new Rangers thrown in – was cooked up by SFA chief executive Stewart Regan, vice-president Rod Petrie, SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFL chief executive David Longmuir.

So here we go again. Just as supporters of SPL clubs rose up to prevent their club chairmen daring to vote a reconstituted – but as yet unnamed and non-SFA member – Rangers straight in to the SPL, so the supporter spring is rising up once more.

One man who knows that first hand is David MacDonald, who runs the Pie and Bovril website, which has become a portal for punters of all clubs to build joint protests. “In nearly ten years running the site, I have never seen such anger, such depth of feeling from supporters of all 42 teams as on Thursday when it came through about the plans to make sure the Rangers newco was in the First Division next season.

“Before all this, we used to have the ten other SPL clubs as one, railing against the Old Firm, whose fans would do their own thing. Now we are seeing supporters of all 12 clubs, and that includes Rangers, rejecting the placing of money before the sport, and the pantomime this creates, wherein the league must have a Celtic and Rangers in it no matter what, and the other clubs just have to be parasites, feeding off the TV and commercial money these two bring in. Until last week, though, the SFL fans didn’t feel directly involved. Now, though, all those have the same outrage at the game being rigged for one club and their club being expected to fall into line with that.”

A number already have not. And those SFL clubs who have voiced their opposition do appear to have done so simply because they do not see what is being proposed as right or just. Gone is any pretence that the SPL clubs’ “no to newco” was a principled stand, borne out of listening to their supporters. The fact is the First Division proposal for the new Rangers was sold as a cert to them weeks ago, making these chairman seem even more scheming and dubious than if they had came out and said “look, it is wrong but we need Sky television and any Rangers in the SPL to guarantee we get it”. The latest turn of events is particularly embarrassing for Hibernian chairman Petrie. It has been reported he met new Rangers owner Charles Green to discuss plans to ease Rangers back into the First Division, despite his claim that “sporting integrity was beyond purchase”.

Clearly, the powerbrokers have misjudged the public mood again. There is every chance that the raft of proposals, which include play-offs to the SPL, £1 million being filtered through the three tiers of the SFL, merger of the two league bodies and a pyramid system below the senior set-up, oh and Green’s Rangers starting off life just outside Scottish football’s highest level, won’t garner the necessary support. Even when the threshold figure for forcing through this “special case” scenario seems to have dropped from 23 clubs out of 30, to 16 clubs.

“The authorities got themselves in a right mess by underestimating the strength of feeling of SPL supporters over the concept of a newco and have now got themselves into an even bigger one by repeating the same mistake again with the SFL teams,” says Livingston Trust member Callum Leslie. “And the breakaway threat just doesn’t help. Isn’t the whole reason why this issue has been thrown up because we have a split between two league set-ups? That has allowed a new team to think you can apply to one of them. If all four divisions were under the same auspices, it would be clear any new member applying to join would start at the bottom.”

Leslie is troubled by the same aspects of this sorry saga as the overwhelming majority of football followers. Yet, his fears of where it could lead in treating one club differently because of their financial clout is a recognition that sport isn’t just all about playing by rules and meeting your financial liabilities. “If we accept the concept that money can dictate consequence, we could be moving towards a franchise system like the NFL in America, or something,” he says. There are plenty of supporters in this country fulminating over the challenged morality inherent in the governing body’s attitude towards the Rangers brand who do not watch American football and consider it rigged.

However, Scottish football supporters do feel that we will never again be slow to be told. Pie and Bovril’s MacDonald appreciates the profound impact that new communication has had on the ability of supporters to mobilise and hardwire their views into the mainframe of football clubs.

“You don’t need to march on Hampden to stage an effective protest,” MacDonald says. “Fans can talk to each other and react to whatever is happening instantly. Issues bleed across sites, stances can be formulated and e-mails channelled directly to clubs.

“For instance, one supporter might put up a letter he has sent to his club, and another poster might take it and pass it on to his. It can be the petition way and can develop a powerful momentum. As someone who is a St Mirren supporter and also runs an individual website, I know that is what happened with the newco for the SPL. We conducted a secure poll that showed 98 per cent were against entry and even 80 per cent if there was a chance of St Mirren going in to administration as a result. I know there is talk of ‘keyboard guerillas’ and such like but you see how quiet the forums go on a Saturday, to know the views being expressed are by those who are hardcore fans.”

It has been fashionable for the football chiefs and chairmen to say that you ignore these people at your peril… before going on to ignore them.
scotland on sunday