Celtic Banter Archive February 01 2014

01 Feb 2014 23:09:28
Seen some people moaning about a Ledley being sold. Put it this way, would you pay 700k for 6 months of him on loan?

01 Feb 2014 22:25:06
Where were the police and stewards today when this farce happend . I would hope Police Scotland are studying CCTV evidence to arrest this . As somebody said earlier I hope people beg steal or borrow to buy tickets for next week as the sheep are rumourdly bringing 5000 herders down . To think the outcry in the media not long ago because a player called Sneaky a pr1ck was widespread I just wonder what the reaction will be tomorrow . Another thing I heard but don't know if it's true is the sheep are being charged £15 a ticket when non ST holders are being charged £20 . Maybe someone can clear that up . DH

When Lennon was attacked at swinecastle the guy got off remember! Literally millions of people witnessed it and he never got jail time.Sickening.

Why what happened
Tambhoy

Disgusting. My son won't grow up in Scotland exactly because of this nonsense still happening. It needs jumped on, really makes Scotland look like a backward wee backwater

01 Feb 2014 21:47:09
I tell you now, in my course of work I travel the length and width of Great Britain and Ireland, just an ordinary man in search of a few pounds to put food on my family's table and get my daughters through uni.In my travels I've found in general local people friendly enough where ever I go in both work or in the local pubs when I've time for a pint There's a few exceptions and surprisingly enough they are in Scotland and in Northern parts of Ireland, my home.
These people in Scotland when they hear me speak, first thing they ask is your name, then do you support a football team and if they have any inking what so ever you are Irish you can expect vulgarities including degrading remarks aimed at a certain church whether you are a member or not .All pass of as a bit of humour, no offence intended type of thing .So it comes as no surprise what so ever to see what happened to Neil Lennon today .
Scotland hang your head in shame .A wee back water place right up there with 60s Alabama .

01 Feb 2014 19:53:09
Disgraceful behaviour by the Hearts fans towards Lenny and Parker today at Tynecastle. Absolutely fekkin disgraceful. let's see what punishment is handed out to them. They're no better than Sevconians. Fekkin inbreds the lot of them!

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

Aberdeen or St Johnstone fans mate.

ChrisBhoy you are probably are by now that Hearts were not playing at Tynecastle today. Our manager went to see our Scottish Cup opponents Aberdeen play St Johnstone. He is spat upon, had coins thrown at him and was verbally abused. No police or stewards action taken although all must know they have a high profile visitor who may require some protection. This is disgraceful and a damning indictment of life in Scotland today. Scotland's shame once again clearly on display for all to see.

Celticflame

Apologies. Not Hearts fans. Wrong of me to say that.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

01 Feb 2014 20:02:38
Now that the transfer window has slammed shut, how about a poll (just below) as to who everyone would like to see as the front man/pairing.

Also who do you think will score the most goals between now and the end of the season?

01 Feb 2014 17:10:07
Anyone hear anything about lenny having to leave the aberdeen game today after being spat on and things thrown at him? just a rumour I seen on twatter so wondered if any yous heard anything similar

It's all over twi**er mate, seems it is all true.Maybe the final straw for him.Disgraceful.

Yeah I've heard the same!
I also got a txt saying what had happened and "that lot are always the same" I asked who?
as there was 2 sets of supporters at
the game, he said hertz! FFS unbelievable, no even playing!

There's an article about it on news now Celtic disgraceful behaviour I hope NL gets his revenge on the Dons next week!

BigBadJohn it looks like it was the aberdeen fans that done it. Lennon was sitting next 2 ther fans. Absolutely disgustin. GunnieBhoy

Not sure whose fans it was but it was semi final at tynecastle between aberdeen and st johnstone. His agent has confirmed Garry Parker and Lenny had to leave after 70 mins because of it. BTW do all managers have agents.

Some of the abuse NLs getting on twitter over this is scandalous, including people suggesting its his mothers fault for giving birth to him, bigotry's still alive and kicking on that cesspit.

Thought that myself Gunniebhoy, as they had 12000-14000 tickets, not sure if sold all. Didn't want to jump
The gun though like the guy a got txt from sayin it was hertz lol
Doesn't surprise me a lot but thought it was past all that crap?

Most of the rich and famous have agents. Agents tend to make you think of the type that are trying to sell football players to other clubs. But agents are also used for PR, bookings for events, sponsorship etc.

01 Feb 2014 16:08:24
I watched Griffiths 28 Hibs goals on YouTube and was impressed. He scores from all over the park. I'm convinced he will rattle them in for us and win the fans round. Regards CL I see no reason why he won't deliver the goods. This magic figure of 6 Mill does not guarantee a super CL striker. I'm delighted we have Leigh, and as for his off field private stuff, he's a young man with time to get it right.

Totally agree pal, money guarantees heehaw look at monies Martin oneill spent (and before folk say Seville which was great achievement ) likes of sutton hartson lennon to name a few we done nothing in champions league so I agree signing this boy can only be a good thing

I don't think anyone can doubt his ability it is the off the field stuff that concerns many.Pretty much everything can be put down to youth but the racist slur is a problem, this is just unacceptable.Very tricky one this.

01 Feb 2014 14:54:43
It will be interesting to see if samaras is in the squad for tomorrow, IMO he should be frozen out to the end of the season or signs a new reduced contract with the hope we might get some money for him in the summer.

He better not be, although he is on Lenny's favorite list! Get johannson on from the start, with amido and pukki.

Samaras has been with Celtic 7 years that's plenty of loyalty. If he's fit and in form he should be played.

Marky why should Sami be frozen out because he's not signed contract extension mate, drop him if he's playing crap ( which he is by the way ) but we've got t remember celtic are only the mans employers and he should be used to our advantage when lennon deems is right ( like it or not ) if your boss never offered suitable terms and no one really wanted to sign you up just now knowing they can get you for nowt what would you honestly do, sign on again and hope for the best or wait six months and see what options are then . ?

What's loyalty dick dastardly he's getting paid handsomely for his work where as do I get any plaudits for working for the same company for 14 years do I hell

Ayrshire bhoy

01 Feb 2014 17:17:36
why play a player that is

1) out of contract with no intention of re-signing by the looks of things

2) has been playing very very poor in the majority of games this year

if we are building towards cl qualifiers then what part does sammy come into all of this? play boerrigter and see what he is capable of. seems to be at least injury free as past while and might play a pass and not run into defenders as much as sammy has

Kieran_Bhoy

Falkirkbhoy, I understand where you're coming from but its not as if we need him in the team.If he was an important player for us

Dont know what happened there. Was going to say if sammi was a more important player for us it might be a different story but IMO this is a chance for Lenny to flex his muscles to deter other players from running down their contracts.

It's Celtic that have been more loyal to him. In 7 years he has underachieved every one and the annoying thing is we know he can play - we have seen him destroy teams - but 6/7 times a season is absolutely ridiculous.

JJ

*cries, leave sammy alone just leave him alone (youtube brittney spears guy) haha, sorry I'm bored

Darrenbhoy

01 Feb 2014 12:44:56
So Griffiths claims that he was informed of Celtics interest mid December . That's 46 days ago . Celtic sign him at 8pm 46 days later knowing there was a 5pm deadline to have him playing on Sunday . Really professional Celtic, I guess he can always do the world record paradise windfall tomorrow . DH

It seems to me he was on a list mate.Possibly we contacted his agent to test the water if our main target fell through? The fact is the Ledley fee has paid for him, good business whichever way you look at it.

Saying on sly he's in the squad but also says on sly ledley went for "around 800000" and on another page 2.5 m. quality journalism from sly as per
Hail hail

Don't disagree with that GJ I just think we could have got him signed in time to add a bit of momentum to tomorrow's match . I'm not saying it would have added thousands to the gate ( seriously doubt it as tickets start at £26 ) but maybe a few ST holders who can't be arsed going to games now might just have made the effort . DH

@DH: I don't think he would have added many to the gate to be fair, the pricing, as you pointed out, is very high for the standard we are getting at the moment.This is not all Celtics fault but we need to play fast flowing football.

I always felt that Ledley, who I rated, slowed things with too many touches.Hopefully the the new boy will speed our game up.

01 Feb 2014 14:44:07
i agree with gj on that ledley did have games where he would slow things down a bit to much and was decent in others. although very few real stand-outish games like the one midweek but all the best to him at palace

again good business in that he probably wasnt signing so we got a bit of money and griffiths effectively a free player

To clear things up, the real push by celtic came first wk of jan. I posted if u look back.

01 Feb 2014 11:54:13
It's good to see tony watt starting to settle in Belgium 5 goals in 4 games! I hope when the likes of what and mcgregor come back that they get their chance in our first team! The only way these bhoys are going to reach their potential is by playing

01 Feb 2014 12:27:55
always been a big fan of watt and he's showing his quality now in a superior league to what we are playing in to be honest (although for most teams all they do is attack)

also looks to have sorted himself out or maybe someone has said something to him when he was back over during christmas/january

think mc gregor is our version of ryan gauld. maybe that is why no bid for him but 13 goals in league 1 for a struggling team is brilliant. can't really compare them both cause can't say I have seen much of either but probably would be equally as good

anyone know if lg can play tommorrow? interesting to see if we finally start to go two up top now or will it be sammy left to run aimlessly into the first rb/cb he can find (think stokes is suspended still so probably just the one striker for sundays game)

01 Feb 2014 12:32:33
sorry stokes does actually return tommorow and just told think lg is available

Kieran

If Watt can sort himself out he has the potential to be fantastic. No one ever doubted his ability, it was his attitude that caused problems and that was what frustrated us all. Hopefully a spell away will have taught him a few lessons and if he knuckles down we will all welcome him back.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

He won't be back. The board will accept any offers for him, along with all the other young talent NL has hurled out the door on 'loans'

HH cynical ShottsBhoy

01 Feb 2014 16:38:07
i also think he will be sold somewhere come the summer but hope this loan move sorts him out

i know watts attitude problem was more to do with training more than anything but as a striker (not left wing) I would play him every game. not once during a game has he looked disinterested

01 Feb 2014 10:07:46
To much negativity on here
How will we possibly replace a free scoring midfielder who ran away to the premiership?
Biton Johansen Boerigter or maybe just we will promote young McGregor to the first team when loan spell is up
The board kept a big Greek diddy why? Because he wouldn't go it was not for the lack of trying and maybe the man actually deserves a bit more respect than he is given at times
We didn't spend 6 million on a striker why? we can't afford to waste good money and Tony Watt will be back in the summer and the way he is developing in Belguim can we really afford not to at least give him a shot and let's be honest Griffiths might just turn out to be a class act and hopefully he can sort out his off field antics

01 Feb 2014 02:53:11
Don't know if this right but if ledley went for 700 900 g and he was on say 20g a week that's 480000/520000 for the remainder of his contract plus prob a loyalty bonus (which he probably still got )50/100 g so say 700000 .all in all over a mill saved/earned, that to me is good business and that's all we are to pl and the board .lets just hope when that new business THE sevco5088/newco2012.zombieuk.com, slither their way to the big table, our business men will dip into our gorgantual biscuit tin because their certainly not willing to do it while we have no challenge for the cl qualifiers, if we don't make sure we get at least 10 in a row when our rivals have died(probably twice by the time I'm finished typing) . shame on them
Hail hail

01 Feb 2014 00:17:26
Whatever happened to lennon saying he was confident ledley was staying to the offer was there all along? I think ledley was pushed imo.

Of course he was pushed, last day and no sign of signing, 2 million pounds to collect jimbo? What would you have done?

Pushed? Are you serious guys? If he wanted to stay he could have, he or his agents played us. We got him for nothing but made him a millionaire, sad to see him go, great servant and good luck to him, I only wish him well.

Look at his picture holding up the crystal palace jersey - doesn't look chuffed at all. He'll be missed and miss the tic

01 Feb 2014 00:09:32
I know there are a few of us less than impressed with current transfer activity but tbh I'm quite happy. I'm sad to see someone of Ledleys quality leave but at the same time excited to see Johansen in the flesh. I'm also excited to see if Griffiths can cut out the off field antics and become the player he can be rather than another Riordan that some expect. Only thing I'm disappointing in is that the Greek tragedy is still on the books. He has at times been immense but on far more occasions looked uninterested and I even remember seeing him getting ready to come off the bench at Ipox looking bewilder at his surrounding to almost the extent I'm sure I read his lips saying "the last thing I remember is leaving the Savoy with some wee blonde piece" lol

31 Jan 2014 23:58:09
I'm hoping that Lennon does the decent thing for the fans and himself and walks away in the summer. The board made him look like an person by taking months to appoint him in 2010. They have then continually tied his hands in the transfer market and if you do the maths we haven't actually spent a penny on transfers as all fees paid have been covered by fees received from selling players.

In the last year Lennon has also promised we would be shopping for 4 million pound market in May and we ended up with 1 player who I would class as a first 11 player. Then in January they fail to back him again when he talks about building a squad for next season in this window to bed players in.

Totally agree that Lennon should go if it was not for the sad demise of the late great Tommy Burns then he would have been no where near Celtic in the first place.
Remember how quick he was to shoot off to Nottingham Forest in the first place.
Never a suitable manager just a puppet for the board to appease certain parts of the support.

Jeeze, there are some differing opinions on here tonight. Lennon has had money and a lot of players.lets not forget that.

GJ

I agree he has had money and plenty of players but we continue to buy squad players time and time again. Out of his preferred 11 recently only VVD and Ambrose were bought in the last 2 years, the majority were brought in when Lennon first came in or were already there. When we buy we have to buy better than what we have and Lennon's hands have been tied with this.

NiallH

@NiallH: But it's the same old story mate. Firstly the player has to offer something to improve us.Secondly, will they come to what is, sadly, a football backwater, and thirdly, can we afford the wages.

The frustrating thing for me is the buying youth policy.What is happening at Lennoxtown? Young Henderson was terrific in Turkey but we spend money on the young boy from Norway.He might turn out to be fantastic, but so might Henderson if he were given a chance.

I have said here before, Lennon worries me at times.Strange line up's and even stranger substitutions, plus he does not seem to rate any of our young players.McGregor at Notts County is a great example, could he not have been blooded last year at the season end?

GJ

Totally agree with you mate. Guys have to want to come here and everything else has to be right but there must be players out there who fall into that category and it's up to our scouts to find them.

If we lose Forster and VVD in the summer they will most certainly be replaced with inferior players and we will be even weaker than we were at the start of this season.

If you are able to look back at my post I am all for bringing through our own youngsters and I made the point that our youth hammer Dundee United (and other) younger teams on an annual basis. These teams bring in 4 or 5 of theses youth products through and they end up becoming 1, 2 and 5 million pound rated players and our youth never make it. I hope some of this current lot change this but with Lennon in charge I can't see it.

NiallH