Celtic Banter Archive August 01 2013

01 Aug 2013 23:19:00
Please SFA agree to Craig Mather's request for clarity regarding penalties for entering admin. This will surely force the SFA to clear up the same club nonsense.

What about the five point plan then? How about we hear about that too!

Green whole heartedly accepted the ban, a deal was done. What did he get?

Sevco gave assurances Whyte was not involved in buying the assets. Whyte has taped conversations, bank transfers, and a 330 page dossier claiming he was. Sevco5088 bought the assets and whyte owned it. SFA needs to come clean on this debacle. Whyte will stop greens sale of shares to Easdales as whyte claims he owns those shares.

01 Aug 2013 20:45:26
Could not help but notice the striking (pun intended) between Bangura last night and Bony tonight.
What about this for a suggestion we swap them both when no one is looking, then recall ahem "Bangura" from Elfsborg, we then get an £8m player for free. lol Timalloy

Or 2 odd mill that "bony" cost us
Cha67

01 Aug 2013 19:01:21
Can I just say a big well done to St Johnstone who have won 0-1 in Minsk. By my reckoning that is a minimum of 5 coefficient points they have earned for themselves and the Scottish coefficient also.
If you remember last year the 3 other teams only amassed 1.5 coefficient points, so this result boosts St Johnstone, Scotland AND Celtic.
Let us hope Motherwell can add to this coefficient total later tonight. Timalloy

Great result . TTTS

Don't like them, but well done St Johnstone, great result. Hope they make it through, Scottish football needs an added boost.

Bigbadjohn

Good going it has to be said.I still hold a grudge against the non clappers though!. green jhedi

A fantastic win for St Johnstone :-) Mrs E

Timalloy please look at how UEFA coefficient points are distributed, Hibs are the only team to have collected any points this season (0.5) after being eliminated in Q2, no points awarded for wins or draws in qualifying!

G93

01 Aug 2013 22:19:29
Just wanted to correct my arithmetic earlier.
In Europa League teams only get 1 point for a win and 1/2 for a draw so St Johnstone only get 2.5 coefficient points (so far) NOT 5 as I said.
I also looked at Celtic's coefficient points over last 5 years. Only last season were we in double figures and in 2009/2010 we only amassed 5 points and in 2010/2011 a paltry 2 coefficient points. So we need at least 2 more seasons of earning coefficient points over 14 to get our rating high again.Timalloy

UEFA Champions League points system
First qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points
Second qualifying round elimination – 1 point
Group stage participation – 4 points
Group stage win – 2 points
Group stage draw – 1 point
Round of 16 participation – 4 points

G93

Since 2009/10 clubs have been awarded an additional point if they reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final.

UEFA Europa League points system
First qualifying round elimination – 0.25 points
Second qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points
Third qualifying round elimination – 1 point
Play-off elimination – 1.5 points
Group stage win – 2 points
Group stage draw – 1 point

Since 2009/10, clubs have been guaranteed a minimum of two points if they reach the group stage and are awarded an additional point if they get to the quarter-finals, semi-finals or final.

01 Aug 2013 18:48:44
First time poster, love the site and reading the opinions of fellow 'Tic supporters. Thoughts please as this has been nagging me since leaving the stadium last night. In my opinion, it was evident that we need a new capable striker. Many names have been mentioned since Hooper left. Most would cost a few million. With a slender 1-0 advantage, will PL sanction movement or will he sit tight until after next Wednesday? My fear, dare I say it, should we go out next week, what we have is what we will go with unless more go out the door. I'm all for being prudent but I think, given the recent cash injection, we deserve a name to excite us. Am I being too needy and cavalier? Ed and all, thanks for reading this, I welcome feedback. {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site. We need to go with what we have next week, the deadline for signing a player for this round has passed.}

01 Aug 2013 17:51:53
Wolfsburg signed Junior Malanda. Would have been the perfect replacement for Wanyama, I find. Really a shame but I hope that Celtic at least have someone else lined up.

Yeast ill huvnae got it .You don't have the bread to buy him, man.(sorry Patrick of Possil)

Paddy Malarkey

01 Aug 2013 13:24:34
Hi all (great side ED)

does anyone know who we could get in next play off round?

Cheers

01 Aug 2013 15:07:30
How can some Celtic fans on here say that Bangura getting boo'd is a disgrace? Yes Celtic put him out on loan but at the end of the day he was a rival player last night and deserved the reaction he got from our fans. Plus I thought he was a fairy at one point with the amount of diving about he did. The boy is useless and whoever was involved in getting a £1 million loan fee for him should be giving a medal. DundeeMichael.

I agree.I posted yesterday that he should be respected as a Celtic player, but during the game he was against us so giving him stick was a legitimate tactic to put him off his game. As for his TWO dives, that was just plain cheating, although Wilson was stupid to even swing his arm to be honest. green jhedi

01 Aug 2013 13:07:55
I honestly cannot believe yet again the Forrest negativity and for no reason, do some not notice him as he's only 5ft 9!

His team mates have to make the best of him and that includes not making a high pass over meant for a giant, which I though both Kayal and Brown were guilty of.

First half Andreas Klarstrom was yellow carded for a blatant bodycheck on Forrest as he could not handle his pace. The came the shocking cross into the box from Forrest after he beat their offside trap (very easily) to Kayal. That required one of their players to make a fantastic interception. Can I assume I was the only one and everyone around about me seen this? Maybe it's the different ends of the park we all sit at and see things differently.

He was unfortunate with the ball he hit off the crossbar when the ball bounced or it would definitely been in the back of the net.

He never gave up running at their defence and his crossing is not poor, there is just nobody there to connect! Again the need for a decent Centre Forward. Last night may not have been his best game ever but no way was it that bad either and there was worse than on the park than him.

Seems to be unless Forrest has a fantastic game, then he's rubbish and should not be played again. Same way I won't forget he got the blame on here for Dundee Utd scoring 3 goals in the Semi final of the Scottish Cup, not the defenders fault according to some but the wingers. Some logic there!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course ~ Mrs E

@ Mrs E: Much as I respect your posts you cannot be serious defending him after last night. You cited two pieces of play from him, how long does a game last Mrs E? I will give you that the service he received was pretty poor at times but to me he showed no appetite to drop short and get involved. He could of course be following orders but where's his game intelligence?

I don't like giving stick to Celtic players, especially younger ones, but for me he is not justifying a place in the team.The most frustrating thing for me is the fact he has so much to offer but is not showing it. Maybe Lenny has to work tactics to allow him more one on ones to use his pace. I honestly would love to see him bursting past players, he did when he first came into the team, but he needs to move his game forward for me. As you say Mrs E, only my opinion. green jhedi

@mrs E. with hindsight I would accept that Forrest probably doesn't, deserve much stick for last night. I lost count of the number of high floated balls were played to him in the first half . Two from Scott brown went straight into the main stand. By the time the rest reached him he was tight on the touch line with at least one defender in his face. And he still had to bring the ball down, on many of those occasions he did well to retain possession at all. When he got the ball on the deck in front of him he got the better of the full back more often than not, the service to him was much better 2nd half although his final ball could often be better. As you say though the lack of a centre forward and not enough midfield support in the box at times didn't help. andybhoy

I reckon Forrest and Stokes; to name 2 are capable of SPL standard only -and even when there OF games they were out of their depth in them too.
As far as CL opponents they are not up to the job - and this is not after one or two games, but over the past 3 seasons.
Too often wee James flatters to deceive and has went backwards since 2011.

Jungle Jim

I agree with Mrs e, maybe he was rubbish last night but you lot seem to be forgetting this is only our 3rd competitive game. He is young but will come good. Get off the bhoys back. If he still sucks midway through the season then aye fair enough, but get a grip bhoys.

Darrenbhoy

By the way green Jedi, above this post you claim bangura should be respected as a Celtic player then you write that guff about a bhoy that actually wants to he part of the Celtic family and isn't just hanging around waiting for an epl call. Just somthing to think about mate.

Darrenbhoy

Okay this is my assessment of James Forrest -

James Forrest has been at Celtic since he was 11 and is capped at every level for his National Team (Scotland), he seems to be contracted until 2016.

Up until December 2011 the player I seen more than made up for lack of physical presence with a commitment to his play and never shirked away from imposing defenders, taking them on and winning with his pace.

He showed intelligence by knowing when to hug the touchline and when to cut in.

Since late 2011 Forrest seemed to take a confidence knock and has missed parts of the season with hamstring injuries. His weakness lies in tracking back, if you look at the best in the world - Messi and Ronaldo, if they lose the ball they will chase back and win the ball back on defence.

He normally plays wide out on the right and this is arguably his best position. Neil Lennon can change him to the left wing.

He recently turned 22 and can have no excuses this season however, I do not think he's the finished article. I'm hoping he can stay injury free.

If Celtic sold him right now, I would expect a fee of 3m upwards ~ Mrs E

@Darrenbhoy: What guff did I post about Forrest? Do you think he done anything of note last night? Do you think he has justified inclusion in all his starts last season? Do you think he has moved his game forward since He broke through? His biggest asset is his pace and he is not showing it. There is talent there but is their application?

On Banguerra, I was pointing out that pre game there should have been no stick but during the game he got it tight because he was against us, that's normal. green jhedi

GJ, give the boy a break. he's a Celtic regular, won young player of the year, played champions league football and become a Scotland squad regular all before the age of 22! there's so much to be positive about the boy, let's enjoy his progression under a very astute management team. As you can see from the above, its not just my opinion. maestro8

@maestro8: there seems to be a perception that I am giving the boy some clog here. I am not.I have said countless times that I rate him and think he has real potential but it is undeniable that he has not really progressed.

last season the boy struggled with injury and deserved the benefit of the doubt.Maybe I expect too much of him but I don't think his game has improved.When he first broke through he terrorised defenders with his pace and shooting, you just don't see him do that any more. This is a big season for him and I really hope he can step up.As I have said before the talent is there we have seen it. green jhedi

I'm hoping he does well this season too GJ.

I really think this is his season to prove himself, he's 22 now and has enough experience (Celtic first team, CL and International).

A winger is not everyone's cuppa tea, look at Samaras. How long as it taken the Celtic support to give him a break ~ Mrs E

01 Aug 2013 10:57:11
Does anyone know any Celtic pubs in Arbroath that Will be showing the game on Saturday

I live in Arbroath and I usually watch the games in The Portcullis on Montrose road or The Millgate bar on Millgate Loan. Neither could be described as out and out Celtic bars but there are always plenty of bhoys in for the games, especially in The Portcullis which is an excellent pub and has won many awards. Great pint of Guinness there too.

31 Jul 2013 23:52:20
The Sevconians travelled in force tonight with 'trialists' to second tier Dundee to stamp their authority on Scottish football. Deady bear fans were expectant of Scotland's second best squad but it was not to be. Dundee led deservedly 1-0 at half time and deserved the game but it finished 1-1.

What was going to be a trumpeted walkover in the media is now a news blackout, move along forget it job.

Freebie players and a duff manager don't make cup winning teams. Sevco are second tier average at best on tonight's result.

Match report and teams on Dundee FC website.

When will deady bears get over the self deception and the duping by their office bearers? Overly expensive freebie players.

Come on mate, give them a chance! They never had a pre-season on thier pre-season so what do you expect!

Who gives a f@#k by the way celtic were playing in the champions league tonight and the team you are talking about were playing in a freindly . People like you make us look silly and petty no wonder you didn't leave a name . Fab1

Didn't their extension for accounts run out yesterday?mark

To OP- why oh why are we talking about their FRIENDLY game tonight when we have just played our biggest game of the season and are only just hanging in the tie when we should have won it out of the park? We need a clinical striker desperately to replace Hooper and a creative force in the middle

#4 the op probably travelled to dundee oppose to parkhea last night. don't get posters like that. No wonder some fans get branded obsessed