Celtic Banter Archive September 19 2013

 

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19 Sep 2013 23:46:59
Just been catching up on some of the posts here and I seriously cannot believe what some people are going in about. We got beat off a rubbish AC Milan team . It was Izaguirre and Forsters fault. Lennons tactics / substitutions were terrible etc etc
Seriously what planet are some people on, we played well, we were unlucky and to blame Izaguirre and Forster must be a joke and also is this the sh*t Milan team that brought on £40 million pounds worth of substitutions. Go and have a look at yourself, our bhoys played well, they controlled the game for 80 mins until a bit of misfortune against a team of players who cost about £100 million compared to our largely undervalued and under rated squad! I was proud of them and I watched it on holiday in Lanzarote surrounded by English fans who raved about the way we played. Maybe I had too much to drink and watched a different game but personally I think some people need to get real and stop living in fantasy land!

Gary

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Completely agree with this Post.

Can't believbe the reaction. Blame, Blame, Blame, Blame!

Probably mostly people who have never been to a game or many of the thousands of DESERTERS who didn't renew their season book over the last few seasons.

And all this peash about a quality striker.WE didn't GET FINABOGSON (spelling?) GET OVER IT! We don't even know if he would have come to us!!

A bit better quality crossing from Adam Mathews (great player by the way), A bit better quality crossing from Lustig, a few inches lower on a free kick from Stokesy, a little less bend on a sammy shot, 2 inches more of Izzy's boot reaching the ball, the foul being given for Ballotelli raising his arm and not Brown.

We were unlucky! very hard to take, I will grant anyone that. Indeed an absolute sickner.

But for goodness sake MAN UP!!!!

Snivvelling, winging, little know it all after alls. that's how your coming across.

We are where we are, and it is not that bad a place.

Embarrassed by my fellow supporters over the last few days!

HH

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Totally agree with you m8, am loving being a bhoy rite now can't see what we've got to moan about, great position financially in the biggest competition for club teams there is and giving a good show.
Some people will never be happy
Monkeybhoy

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19 Sep 2013 22:56:36
Gotta love our "celtic family" it sure ain't the waltons lol, reading some of the posts after 1 defeat agsinst one of the most successful european teams ever, alm we do is argue wae each other.
Are things really that bad?
Apart from the lack of competition in Scotland ad say we've got it pretty good.
Good night and god bless fellow boys and Ghirls .
Monkeybhoy {Ed007's Note - Have you still not mastered this logging in?}

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I was just about to post the same thing Monkey. In the words of some rubbish American band. "Where is the love"?

Joeshmo1888

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She's locked up in my basement. Em I mean yeah where is the love

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Sorry ed am not the brightest, tried but said user name was already registered, I registered that name so I was able to post but doesn't come up blue {Ed007's Note - If you have registered the name already you just need to log in using it and your password.}

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19 Sep 2013 22:25:49
Ed posted a number of things recently that have never made it to the board? Day before the champ league game was last one. {Ed007's Note - I'm using my tablet just now so I can't check anything just now, but I can't see anything posted on that date from you either. If it happens again let me know mate.}

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19 Sep 2013 21:15:09
Just catching up with the posts regarding the game and I find some very surprising. It is very easy to be critical but surely the positives outweigh the negatives?

Firstly, we are still an inexperienced CL team, and at times that shows.But the important question is are we progressing? I would say so.Forget the fact Milan had injury problems, they still had enough quality on the pitch.They also play in a highly competitive league which keeps them sharp and able to play the same system week in week out.Celtic do not have this and I feel it hinders us greatly when it comes to CL games.

Progression for me is the fact that we took the game to them.We were brave in possession and always looked to get forward.Efie and Virgil looked like two quality European class centre backs and Matthews and Lustig were tremendously hard working.Everyone done their job, with the exception of Sammi who at times had me tearing my hair out.To be perfectly honest he did not look interested.Maybe a hang over from his compassionate leave problems?

With just a little luck we could have been ahead earlier.First half Commons just could not get the ball from under his feet for a strike in the box, almost the exact same as Broony in the second in fact.We also hit the bar with a great free kick, and had Sammi not bottled it he might have scored with a header before Charlie's attempted over head kick.

Biggest disappointment? Our final ball and dead ball kicking.This was really poor all night even from players we know are capable of much better.We also never seemed to have any thing pre planned regarding free kicks and corners, this surprised me given the importance of these in the CL. Which brings us to Lenny, mistakes in substitutions?

The only thing I will say on this is I thought he should have had Sammi off and Derk on at half time.I think Derks pace and quick crossing might have helped Stokes stay central.To be honest I think Lenny done a good job with the shape and was a bit bold at the end with Pukki instead of shoring things up, fair play to him as we never expected the game to go the way it did.

With the Ajax result we are still fighting and four points from them would see us in the third spot I think.I feel we can also get at Milan at Celtic Park and Barca know we can be dangerous.Cant wait till the next one Bhoys and Ghirls. It has not got the glamour of the Ramsdens but it will do for now! green jhedi

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@GJ Agree about the Sammi/Derk substitution but would have also took stokes of after 60mins and gave Pukki a bit of time to get into the game. But as I said last night it was a great performance and can only give the team a boost for the other games.

Briggs

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Good post can't see many arguments for that coming your way

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Pretty much what I said about the subs earlier GJ. Although they were tired and subs were needed, we ended up with pretty much 4 strikers on the park. I've not seen much of Pukki and Boerrigter but i'm going to guess defending isn't their strongest point. Add Stokes and Sammi into that and I feel it left us a little open, even if the actual shape didn't change.

Joeshmo1888

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19 Sep 2013 20:19:21
expect Turnball Hutton to be in the firing line again after stating he will be demanding Neutral Venue and not ibrox if they and newco reach the final.

cp ruled out as to expensive and hampden under renovation

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19 Sep 2013 21:36:22
Play it in a coo field with the rest of the $h1te. #weareallraithrovers

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@1 that post had me in stitches lol

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Play it at Hibs or hearts or Motherwell and give them some income.

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Good shout bud! They'll destroy Parkhead if its played they're #fact!
Zombie &ucjs! HH

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Maybe could play it in manchester sure they would love to welcome britains newest team down to play thier first ever cup final

rangobango {Ed007's Note - Touche.}

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19 Sep 2013 19:57:40
Well played and bad luck bhoys that was one of our most controlled performances in Europe for a long time, maybe this year is too early for further progress but keep this up and no one will want to get us next year

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19 Sep 2013 18:10:31
facts is that we need a proven goalscorer up front the money from hooper should have been spent on Rhodes who would have scored last night the ones big Sammy missed stokes can't play lone striker.

Also when the ball came off big forster 4 Milan players followed it in we had one afraid to say team changes cost the game

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19 Sep 2013 17:49:58
2nd time in milan now, really is a dump, thought we were very good, as for the people who come on here backing the board and moaning at fellow supporters, I bet they are the guys that moan and say we should be winning, well you get what you pay for, so to they guys, when you spend 2m here and a 1m there we will never win it, so as yous say and sadly as it is we are a business and well still get our money to tuck away, away where is the answer. Our team for the price of it are fantastic.
1 other question to people who say 2m a bit pricey for balde, I for one don't believe that was the price, maybe including his contract just like wee mccann when we signed stubbs for 2.5/3m the wee man came out and told us it was 5.5m and then said that was overall package inc his wages,, only at celtic.but I love my celtic, ., .kbarry

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Wish a was like you k Barry your the bestest celtic supporter in all the land and we wouldn't catch you on here moaning much about "your" team.
Monkeybhoy

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Well said monkeybhoy, if he's not on here ranting and raving about hating the PL and the board, he has now sank to a new low by replying to a fellow poster in a childish and condescending manner (see below) when its really uncalled for.

Briggs

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@2 Joseph smocheph lmao

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Wrong, I always leave a name mate. unlike yourself.

Joeshmo1888

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Joesmoo who are you aiming that at? can't see anyone stating nameless, paranoia is a destroyer, ., .kbarry

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@5 was it not you who replied to 1 of his post with something stupid like that
Monkeybhoy

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Lol, think your the paranoid one.

Joeshmo1888

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19 Sep 2013 16:56:51
After the result last night I think we'll need to do the double over Ajax to get through now, similar to Spartak last season. Performance-wise we were excellent. Don't be fooled by the injuries/reserve team nonsense, Milan had about £30m worth of talent up front alone and then brought Robinho off the bench! The team did us proud and we need to believe we can build on that and get behind them in a fortnight the way only we can. Hail Hail
Kevbhoy

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19 Sep 2013 15:58:06
With what I've read today regarding a deed team and where they might play a HUGE cup final HA! I really hope the SPFL aren't stupid enough to stage it at Parkhead. These animals would destroy our beloved paradise (as they've done in the past) #deedclub #noonecares
Jimthetim67

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Short memories. Not remember the thugs who ripped the seats out at an u17s cup final at ibrox?

Gaz. {Ed007's Note - Sorry Gaz but I will bet you nobody can remember that ever happening. Although I am sure you have a link to stories to back up your fantasy? Surely there would be reports in the press, police statements etc? Don't let the truth interfere in your childish little game of whatabouttery though. Fail Fail Gaz.}

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@op I wouldn't worry about it, word is paradise cannot be used because it's to expensive. I'm sure all the teams that are in the semis of the pawn cup will be devastated, as its a once in a lifetime opportunity to play at a great stadium like celtic park. Really feel for that new club and their fans it would have been a good experience to see where a big team play.

Briggs

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Gaz the sevconian gets Gaz-umped!

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@1 wow mate it must be great living in lala land that is your pea sized brain! I bet you are one of the knuckle draggers who videoed themselves desroying the toilets at celtic park when you used to followe your now dead club? Do you remember that do you? Yeah didn't think so!
Don't try to tar everyone with your rancid disgusting new club's supporters standards! Now feck off back to your own laugh of a forum ;-)

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19 Sep 2013 14:56:46
Next morning cold light of day. We were beaten 2-0. Manager has to ultimately shoulder that. It's not good enough.
I don't want us to be like Scotland putting in brave performances but mostly losing and coming last. This cannot become a habit. Milan were poor and we didn't maximise on it.
We were in complete control of the game until the last ten minutes and substitutions. Also I have always criticised two subs at the same time. Always. It's a desperate thing if your losing. One sub to allow the team to adjust to him and him to find his feet. Two subs together ruins understanding and cohesion and team shape. The last thing we needed on top of the game with tem minutes to go.
Lastly, going out and playing them away from home was the wrong tactic and highly risky. We should have played a defensive game with opportunistic break outs, however we don't appear to have a finisher.
We are not a top team that can play attacking football away from home and win (no finisher for attacking football anyway). Another wiser manager would have got us a point last night with perhaps the chance of three. Lenny needs to improve. It was a failure with a failed approach and a failed tactic with ten minutes to go.
Finishing with a positive, our new guys need more club time to demonstrate what they can do. Perhaps we have two finishers there already but it needs to be proven in the premiership before risks can be taken with CL games. You don't just bung on guys and hope for the best.

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To op get a bloody grip how can you blame lenny for that. We were unlucky end of.

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We were unlucky man, on another night we would've got at least a point but we didn't, we need to look at the positives and move on. Remember where we were 3 seasons ago? We've came a long way since then


Bman

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I am sick and tired of Celtic being ' unlucky '. Missed chances again have cost us big time . The longer the game went on, you just knew what was going to happen . A.C were there to be beaten last night , but will have all their top players back for the return, so will be much better.Rant over Bring on the Barca .Hail Hail Vinciebhoy

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We have never won in Italy and have played much better teams than that.
The old broken record of 'unlucky losers' and 'we wus robbed' has to stop as it's getting monotonous.
The current team does not have any superstars or the class of teams gone by; but we should have had enough about usto get a result last night as the possession and balance of play proved against an average Milan 11.
We lacked composure and confidence in front of goal and this poor finishing has been going on for quite a while.
Some of the crosses from open play and even corners were awful too.

Jungle Jim

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I think the OP is being extremely harsh. If they were there for the taking then surely you do that by playing attacking which is exactly what Lenny tried to do. Milan were weakened at the back but still extremely strong up front sitting back would most likely have ended up with us getting slaughtered as guys like Robinho and Ballotelli would have found gaps, and we know Matri can too as he done it to us last year. Yes we were wasteful in the final third but we went out and gave it a go, sometimes you just need one break and unfortunately they got it. Something tells me you were looking for a reason to blame Lennon and would have found it no matter the outcome of the game.

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What a complete joke you are op, you do realize that they had 30mill worth of players up front alone eh. We are playing world class clubs and players and we held them off and pushed them. It was only a lucky goal that separated the game, what if stokes scored if only an inch lower, then would you have come on a rant saying we should have played for a draw? The subs were a right chose at right time for the legs were gone in the players and the subs helped which led to stokes free kick. But blame Lennon cause its easy and dosent know anything, look how far the club has come in Europe for many around the world said we were the better team and you say we can't play attacking football away from home? For you to think a draw would have been the right thing shows you how much Lennon has grown and done to the club cause before no one would have expected anything only to not be impariressed. We played as to win to get a great start in the group as a last 16 club would, we did great for ony an inch on two occasions would have had a different result.

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19 Sep 2013 14:43:04
Hindsight is a great thing, but the subs last night lost us quite a bit of momentum. I was quite happy to keep the same team/shape on the park and was happy for a 0-0 which I feel we could have easily achieved.
I would have replaced Stokes with Pukki and kept Commons on.
At the end of the match we had Stokes, Pukki, Samaras and Boerrigter all on which I feel left us a bit open. I guess there was certainly tiredness and possibly knocks resulting in the changes, but I do feel the wrong changes took place.
But as I said, hindsight is a great thing!

Joeshmo1888

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Hey joseph schmoseph think your contradicting yourself there pal, adam had ran himself into ground, like commons. The subs used were like for like ie adam/rw or rm replaced by boerig who went to rw/rm, commons for pukki stokes went behind pukki were commons was, shape never changed bud,, seen it with my own eyes.when watching a game on tv the cameras follow the ball, ., .kbarry

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They were tired and it was clear they had no more in the legs, SUVs come on and got us a chance to win by the guy you wanted off only for stokes to hit the bar, in hindsight an inch lower and we get points and the game plan worked almost to perfection only for a lucky tip that change the game. In hindsight no tip and maybe points

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19 Sep 2013 13:39:49
Like everyone else, gutted by result last night but we half expected the "gallant losers" tag again.
Realistically, we must better Ajax results in the first place. If we can beat them at Celtic Park and even draw in Amsterdam. Target 3rd place first of all ( I can hear the dissenters already) We need to make sure whatever Ajax do against Barca and Milan we at least match them. Europa league will at least help us continue to build up our coefficient.
Our home games will be even more important now, first is Barca, who will be after victory against us to restore their pride from last season.
I would take a draw just now. Ajax and Milan are winnable games at Celtic Park if we play to 100%
away will be more difficult. Our only realistic hope away is taking something in Holland.
I am worried Ajax will beat Milan at home, and if we lose against Barca we are already miles behind.
Timalloy

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19 Sep 2013 13:34:01
I can't believe all the negativity after last nights game.
I thought every player played out of their skin.
Ok final ball wasnt good on a few occasions but lennon has every one of them players playing well. The passing and control was slick and all though we didn't get the result we more than matched our opponents for most of the game.
Mulgrew looks better in CM and grows in composure with every passing game.
Ambrose and Virgil look like a good solid partnership.
Disappointed with an unjust result- YES.
Disappointed with display- NO.
Proud of players - YES

Kevbhoyo

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Agreed Kev can't beleive some people, it's the boards fault it's lennons fault . It is what it is they might not b as good as they use to be but they've still got quality through out, we played well but maybe there extra multis of millions just got them the result
Monkeybhoy (remembered)

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Totally agree Kev. Think some of the comments are disgraceful tbh. Yes we were a bit wasteful at times but many positives can be taken from it. Centre of defence look to be developing a good partnership and Matthews at right mid could be a very good option as the season progresses. Plus four of the new signings still trying to fight their way into the team regularly.

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19 Sep 2013 12:10:04
Every one is saying how well celtic played last night and how we should be proud! I think celtic missed far too many chances and again let the Italians bully us off the ball when it came to set plays, we had about 7 corners and not 1 hit the target, Mathews is not a right winger and it shows his final ball was poor! I always knew it wast going to be when mulgrew smashed a free kick straight into the wall from inside there box, Scott brown for me was also poor never got into the game, celtic need a play maker someone that can play the ball on the ground and create something! Not this out wide to izzy and the cross all day long . Borector should have started on the right and sorry to say although they might not have had time to think but izzy and f foster cost us the game AGAIN!

Stephen

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Stephen please explain to me and probably many others why forster and izzy were responsible for last nights defeat.jimbhoy

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You saw a completely different game to me, Stephen. JC

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The problem with corners was that for the first few we were in the box, but the ref kept blowing for fouls as soon as they were taken, so we then had to start at the edge and run in.

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19 Sep 2013 11:05:16
I think some are being a bit hard, thought we played well, Balotelli cost more than most of our team, yes Milan were poor, but maybe the way we played had something to do with it, yes the final third play was not great but there was no one who did not play well. The only point I would make if the foul given against Scott brown had been the only goal what abuse would he have got this morning?

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None because it was not a foul

As for them being a bit hard on here get used to it, most of them have not got a clue and would have us signing 10 mill players without a thought for the consequences

We did great played well and were very unlucky, if the Stokes free kick goes in they would all be on here crowing about a great victory, some folks on here need to get real qualifying is a great result for the finances we have and for me a Europa place is as good as it can get for us this year(hope to be proved wrong on that)

Dannybhoy

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You are right no point in spending millions, I also wasn't sure about the Scott Brown foul, he was booked must have been something the linesman saw If so and he did something, it was stupid, I have not seen repay of incident so just assuming

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19 Sep 2013 09:33:06
Can't go along with all this heroic and proud nonsense. We got beat by a rotten ac Milan team it only confirms our need for a quality player last season we would have drawn/won that match so our own signing/selling policy bites us. After 1 game it's 4 prestigious clubs 1 quality team. Time for the manager and coaches to start getting better quality of final ball from players when it matters. Game changed last night when our subs came on possibly tactical naivety being too offensive.

Jim

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Balls! Not as good as normal ac milan team but certainly not a poor one either. We wer the better team a wee bit of luck our way it could have all been diferent.
If stokes free kick goes in there's no mention of tactical naivety, Mathews ran all night with no final ball so we gave a winger a chance, commons often makes way towards the end of games so we brung on our new 3 m striker.
St Mirren, killie, Motherwell have played better than us in games gon by and on numerous times we've stole the game that's what happens when you can afford that extra bit of quality than your opponents.
Monkeybhoy

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Going into the game I was worried, but that was one of the most ordinary Italian teams I have seen in 40 years of following Celtic and we have no excuse.
Our end ball was very poor quality and even when we had plenty of dead ball opportunities we failed miserably.
There were a few outstanding players for Celtic but they were bereft of composure and class in front of goal.
It was pretty obvious from the 7th minute Samaras was ineffective and Mulgrew should never be played in midfield where he is severely exposed but the manager didn't change things until it was too late and when he did he took the wrong guys off!
Their first goal was pure fluke but we should have been in front long before.
In the CL it is paramount to take your chances as they may be few and far between but it's hard to see where we will score any goals on that mis-firing performance.

JJ

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Im fed up with posts saying if we had bought some quality we would have won or drawn last nights match.I have been following celtic for 60 years and watched celtic teams with real quality doing nothing in europe, even the great celtic team of the 1960s failing in italy, if
you don't get the breaks that are required in matches such as last nights
there, s nothing you can do about it.So for me it had nothing to do with lack of quality or naievty, milan got two pieces of luck and the rest is history.jimbhoy.

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To JJ what team do you manage? I will take lennys tactical nouse over yours any day

Dannybhoy

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When you start taking your 1st pick players off with 15 minutes to go in away tie with the match at 0-0 that's when you should be shoring up not opening up derk and pukki never got into the game going forward and I wouldn't rely on them defending much.so the subs lost us momentum and exposed us defensively

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Dannybhoy
Dry yer eyes Sarcy; Having supported Celtic since the 1960's and been fortunate enough to see many great and not so great Celtic managers and teams; I am entitled to my opinion like everyone else.

JJ

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@5 maybe we would have been better shoring up the defence, don't think the changes exposed us defensively though commons doesn't defend and Mathews wasnt doing much defending last night.
After the subs they got a fluke And a dubious free kick before the subs they had plenty other chances

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19 Sep 2013 08:50:07
Not happy with last night. Yes we played well, but our end product was woeful. Matthews would run all night, but his final ball was poor. When a Ball eventually came into the box, our centre forward wasnt there. Don't recall Abiati making a save of note. No shots = no goals = don't deserve a win

Samson

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