Celtic Banter Archive August 19 2011

 

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19 Aug 2011 23:14:48
Rangers fan here and firstly I'd like to apologize should this be in the wrong section of Celtic Rumours.

I'd just like to genuinely enquire as to why you guys think McCourt doesn't get played often or at least seldom starts? Just curious as he seems to be rated as one of your better players yet never starts.

He also doesn't seem to start or feature too much for Northern Ireland, yet, once again he is highly rated amongst Northern Ireland supporters.

Just curious and looking for a genuine answer.

Thanks in advance. {Ed007's Note - No problem mate, I will leave it to the others to answer, welcome 'over' ;-)

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Bcoz hes 2 injury prone tho he is a great player

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Because he can out of nowhere produce magic individual goals, i think hes just one of those players who unlucky through injuries never seem to get a starting place, hopefully this may change this year and give him an injury free run in the team, hes got the talent fer sure

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Cheers for the replies, guys. Wasn't aware of him being injury prone etc

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Evening.

He barely starts for a number of reasons.

First off he's injury prone so obviously can't play if he has an injury (which was the case for at least some of his first/second season).

Second off I think he has fitness issues and certainly did in his first season as he was signed and barely played. Furthermore there're rumours that the guy is a heavy smoker...not sure how true it is and to be fair there are probably marathon runners that enjoy a puff so not even sure how relevant it is (also, see: 40 a day Robert Prosinecki).

He's also not that consistent (see below) - in a lot of games he's anonymous. Also not the best defensively which means it can be a risk playing him in games against better sides like Rangers, Hearts, Dundee United, Europe etc. etc.

In terms of his popularity, he scores some cracking goals (there's got to be a youtube compilation). I've never seen the guy score a "normal" goal (well, in open play as he's scored a penalty). His (unrivalled) moments of magic obviously make the guy popular and in all honesty he's the only player in the SPL capable of those types of goals as he's the best dribbler by a mile and doesn't do it by pace like e.g. McGeady did, hence the "Derry Pele". Unfortunately if he doesn't he can be anonymous but I guess the fact he's never in his time here had a run of more than a few games means we want to see him regularly in the team more often as I guess the potential for him being on top form every week and scoring a wonder goal is an exciting one but also scores most of his goals off the bench so a bit of an impact player. Also I suppose he probably should play more often - seen as a bit undervalued. He's also Celtic daft so it's always good to see fans live the dream and I guess we Celtic fans like to get behind these guys in particular.

IMO St. Johnstone is the perfect opportunity for him to start and make his mark, and the same for Sammy to get his confidence up. A game we should win by 3 or 4 goals, should be plenty of chances to stick the ball in the net...

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Excellent response and exactly along the lines of the honest and extensive assessment I was hoping for. Much appreciated.

I'm a Northern Irishman and a Rangers fan, so apart from when he's played against us or played for Northern Ireland I've even little of him. Which is a primary factor of me deciding to start this post.

Cheers. {Ed007's Note - I am hearing that he has handed in a transfer request. If this is true expect him to move to Blackpool very soon. They have been after him for a while and if the transfer request is true then it means he foregoes his loyalty bonus and is trying to push the move through. Rangers fans are always welcome on here mate, and get the respect they show returned, drop by anytime for a serious discussion or a bit of craic.}

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I think he should be starting from now. commons has great ability but hasnt kicked a ball yet this season and istoo inconsistant. i think commons is in a frame of mind were he is guaranteed a place in the team week in week out. leave him out n play paddy n make them fight for the jersey and create more competition n take commons out of his comfort zone

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19 Aug 2011 23:14:25
CELTICNEWS,
John park had been looking at Velikonja from maribor , even before he scored against rangers last night Watch this space ..ASWEDE {Ed007's Note - Are you Wee Pat?}

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Aw mate u talk the most amount of bulls**t i have ever heard. Its just ridiculous.

Drew

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19 Aug 2011 21:59:47
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS0NiTOpEks

funny vid about rangers getting beat from malmo

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Yeh very funny mate, how come there are no videos of Celtic, Oh thats right the Gers were champions and played in the champions cup qualifiers. Thats why there are no videos of celtic getting knocked out, Yeh Rangers got put out and got beat last night, I wouldnt gloat to soon after your teams performance last night either. {Ed007's Note - If it was very funny why get all defensive over it? Bit of a contradiction there, lighten up mate.}

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19 Aug 2011 21:38:58
I like everyone else want Celtic to win every game we play but I wouldn't be too upset if we don't get through, Its a poor substitute for champions league football and I would rather the focus was on winning the title so we get champions league football next season. I know theres the money but Its small by comparison to CL and we seem to be doing ok on the financial front. The last europa league group we were in was pretty garbage TBH. The formats garbage imo, when we went to seville it was exciting and the teams we were playing decent, the competition now is mid table teams from all over europe, who are good sides as good as and better than Celtic but its a distraction we don't need, at least not this season. Win the league play in CL thats what we all want this season.


Mark

P.S If we do qualify I would be resting some of our better players. The league has to be No1, I wouldn't risk injuries.

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Mark sorry but I disagree, there are some really big names this year in europa league, so if we get to group stages we will have some high class teams to watch at paradise, and it will raise our profile again in europe, ok money not as good but still Celtic need it. I looked up prize monies we get £700,00 for this round, if we get to group £1m plus £400,000 a win, £200,000 draw plus tv money and our home gates (3) possibly £7m+ Celtic and Rangers cannot turn that down. Timalloy

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I can see where this post is coming from but come on, how many players do we have to rest when we're playing St Johnstone, St Mirren etc etc. We have got a massive squad and guys like Hooiveld and Rasmussen cost more than both of these teams combined and they can't even get a game for us. In anycase how can we rest our best players when we can't even beat a team who are a middle of the road team from Switzerland.

Like every other Celtic fan i wish we had that luxury mate but lets be realistic here. The Scottish league is nearing the standard of the league of Wales, we should walk through 90% of our league games but the European stage is where we should be turning it on.

No-one but no-one will sign for us based on beating average Scottish teams but if we get a decent run in Europe people take note. Just my opinion

Gary

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Nah I really want us to get through. First off I miss playing in Europe Also, I think the Europa League is probably more the level of Celtic (and Rangers) right now and even if we wouldn't necessarily win the competition I reckon we could at least get a few wins and maybe even reach the knockout rounds. Basically there's hope in the Europa League, while the Champions League sees us likely to end up making Scottish clubs look crap.

I realise that the money is paltry in comparison which I guess is a major draw for getting into the CL aside from seeing big clubs, but in terms of watching the games it beats getting pummelled for 90 mins and hoping for a lucky goal. We're on more of an even keel with most of the other clubs in the EL competition. Even tournament favourites like PSG, Atlético, etc. I reckon we could at least give a game to, while big guns in the CL would probably just embarass us. Like Timalloy says, it's profile raising.

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Sorry, I also disagree with the poster. The money we make from this could be the differecne in funding the players we need to win the league rather than the distraction from it. I'd also suggest that Rangers will get through and have a similar distraction with a smaller squad. Letting them get the money whilst we dont wopuld be yet another finacial nightmare. Similary, we really need to think long term. whilst the league will get us into CL next year, failure this year will ensure its the last we do so due to co-efficient. We need the cash andpoints to build up the team and ensure future opportunities are not denied us. Players will not come to us without European football, its also just possible we'll get an attractive draw.

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I do understand that european football is important for our profile etc but if we win the league we are automatically in the group stages next year. I would hate to see us mess up in a league game this season on the back of a european game. Winning the league this season has got to be top priority. If we don't where do we go from there? New manager, new players, or do we stick with what we have and try again. Coming second is going to throw up so many questions over NL position and ability to win us the league and could push us further back than we are now.

Mark

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19 Aug 2011 21:16:30
Evening ed, couple of points i want to make, do you think sammy would be better playing on the right wing, the reason im asking is because he can run with the ball , has great pace, holds the ball, cant score for sweets though, also have you heard anyhting regarding the swiss fa and sion in regarding playing players brought in during the transfer embargo? also ok 3 points ;-) what could the punishment be for taking on fifa and if we lose the away leg will we be in the next round? johnny {Ed007's Note - I wouldn't fancy Samaras on the wing at all Johnny. As for the UEFA thing there is still no developments, Ed001 explained it earlier as well, I don't think anything will happen until after the 2nd leg.}

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Here ed big sammys ideel positione wid be oan a plane wing freferibly a spitfire'
pp

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19 Aug 2011 20:00:30
{Ed007's Note -Wee Pat, I have put your 'Meeting the Pitts' in the CFC News section.}

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Wee Pat take a bow that was outstanding, Brad in Motherwell that i would love to see Pat, Ed007 just one thing Ed032 needs subtitles, said that last timeLOL timalloy

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Ed007 how how about putting word in lennon's ear for wee Pat to talk to Celtic team before games Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Could have done with him at half time last night.}

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Haf time teem talk
rite ritecam doon ya bunch ah scruffs, noo listin noo n 'listun good.this mob ur gud fir wit?
watchis f'kin coo-coo cloaks ,n choklit,evun thur name bakwirds is nois,wit the fuk is that?
so get oot ther n' dae wit 50.000 sellik fans in yoor posishun wid dae,kik fck oot ae thum
"ask not wit the royil infirmarie 'cin dae fur you. wit kin you dae fur the royil infirmiry?" so get it ther ma boays n' dae yir joab,
meanwhile ahl go thru thur poakits..........
ah fkin telt ye choklit, coo- coo cloaks.n a 'kin timex(pp)
hey you get yir hair bak tae ah normul color ,ah dont care if yir name is lenny,get it kin chinged,heez goat mer hare oan hiz chin thin oan hiz heed

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Lol wee pat get in their wee chap. Post something on the Rangers page bud and cheer them up.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - HOI!!! His name is Pat, not Mo ;-)

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Wee Pat, ha ha ha ha brilliant.
Ed007, Pat ahm gaun fer a dauner see yiz aw ra morra Timalloy ( ~Ed032 I am leaving site now, I will be back tomorrow) {Ed007's Note - Have a delightful evening Tim, my best regards to Mrs Tim.}

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You never know Ed wee pat might have seen the light and come over to our site lol
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Wee P a wall jumper?? Nae chance!! lol Give him his due, he has at least got both sets of fans laughing!}

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Meeting the Pitts, don't want to give you a big head wee Pat, but your stuff is brilliant mate, different class
paddybhoy

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19 Aug 2011 19:14:34
Ed007 thought crowd last night of over 50,000 was really good, but also they were strangely quiet did not feel like a big euro night at Paradise.
Everybody is slagging Samaras but he put in a decent shift but he needs someone on the end of his knock downs and flicks, Stokes never did that.
Also wee Maloney is only shadow of player a couple of years ago. Its time to give Paddy and young Forrest more game time and get Wannyamma more integrated into team. If we are not going to play the Murphy.s, Rasmussen's, or Hooviveld's then loan them out and free wages. Timalloy {Ed007's Note - I think/hope there will be a few players shipped out soon. Whether it is loans or sales it doesn't matter, just time to move them on.}

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Soz Tim not havin it with Samaras mate. His flick ons and knock downs went nowhere near his team mates, as always. He looks after the event, then moans, I saw a post earlier that said "detrimental to the team", that's becoming my view with every performance.

Maloney got 20mins or so? Hit the target. Sammy got 80mins, hit himself.

We need to play people in their positions, if someone (Brown or Ledley) has to miss out then so f****n be it. Ki's earned his place, for me so has Kayal. No room for Broony in there so little chance for Wanyama unless CB?

Shaunybhoy

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Hi Shaunybhoy whole team were poor, big Sammy is an easy target I think, not maloney's biggest fan but when he pulls on our hoops I am with him 100% same should be for sammy or whoever. Why does Lenny keep playing Stokes wide left, did it in aberdeen game no joy and then again last night. Hail hail Timalloy

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Stokes wasnt played wide left, there were two up front, instead of crossing the ball why cant we play direct to goal instead of playing wide in the final 3rd? my opinion is we pass the ball too much instead of going for goal and letting the opposing team get back to defend, johnny

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I actually agree. We played the long ball in the first half and Samaras was winning the headers at least 3/4 times which is what he was there for but had no support either from his partner Stokes or from more attacking midfielders like Commons or Ledley.

Commons and Stokes who're often lauded were far worse IMO. I feel for Sammy - the obvious easy target and he comes in to do a job and one mistake and he's hammered for it. His consistency is dire but he rarely gets a big run of games unlike the rest so on matchdays his confidence and understanding with the midfield and strike partner aren't going to be the same.

As for Maloney I think he's looked good off the bench this season. I wouldn't start him ahead of Commons but then Commons hasn't exactly started the season well.

As for the midfield I'd drop Brown or Ledley.

Kayal should be the first name on the teamsheet (and IMO captain, but that's another discussion completely...) and Ki has been our best player so far this season. Commons needs to play left wing as he's been poor on the right; Ledley never really stands out, and Broony can be a liability so I think it's time one of these two take the fall in midfield as I'll be gutted to see Ki forced to sit on the bench when Kayal comes back.

Another risky but creative and potentially devastating lineup would be Commons/Maloney/McCourt on the left/right flank with Ki and Kayal in the middle. IMO worth a look against weaker opponents 2-0 up at home.

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19 Aug 2011 19:01:36
Did something happen during the summer to some of our fans. We are currently the only team with a 100% record in the league. We have a fantastic young manager who loves us all and we love him. We have a cracking young squad with a few decent new arrivals. Will def be bringing in another centre forward. So why are we all down in the dumps today. Booing the team?? Thats not us, thats the other mob. A score draw or better and we are in the group stages. I was there last night and we were not great but THEY WILL NEVER WALK ALONE. Hail Hail.

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19 Aug 2011 17:37:50
Ed Iam a first time poster on your site this due 2 the fact I supoort the team who has 1 the most league titles in the world, anyway why I am posting is last week on our own site I posted saying that a young japanese player was given work permit for arsenal because arse wenger said and I quote he was an exceptional talent,so my point was both RANGERS and celtic would have said that Mckay and Wanyama could be classed as exceptional talents as both have been playing regular international football in the last year both had 2 go 2 appeal but we all know they would win there case anyway, so why is it right in England that they can be given work permits without meeting the correct criteria, the reason I am on your site telling you this is a few guys from your site tried 2 shoot me down in flames but knowing this I left the bit about Wanyama out I didn't get as much response when I reminded these guys about him but anyway my point in the whole thing was, we may need players like these guys in straight away as u can see how well our clubs are doing in Europe and these other teams are all fielding players from south america like nobodys business so anyway and I really mean this good luck next thursday as we need both teams 2 have a good run in europe or we going 2 end up out on our arse in the qualifiers every year and don't get me wrong I don't want 2 have your babies or anything like that because thats where the good luck ends because we are still going to pump you's in the league cheers
WATP {Ed001's Note - the Arsenal youngster, Ryo Myaichi, got his work permit on appeal as an 'exceptional talent' due to his age. If a player is young and doesn't have the required number of international appearances, then they can produce evidence of his participation in youth sides that he is eligible for. Arsenal did that and got the work permit. Mckay is too old for that to work, he is 28, I think, now, so he can not be excused a lack of full international appearances in the last 2 years due to his age.}

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19 Aug 2011 15:07:14
Afternoon Ed007 was at game last night, ok not greatest result but at least we never lost an away goal. Everyone is getting on big Sammy not my favourite player but he put a shift in last night, Stokes played too far off him, here's hoping Hooper, Wilson and Kayal fit for return leg.
Ed my other point just been on UEFA website nothing mentioned about ineligible players on there, Sion coach saying in Evening Times they believe nothing will come of this, like other Celtic fans I do not trust UEFA to ban them. After all they are a Swiss side and where are UEFA based, my conspiracy theorist head says we will get shafted and no action taken against them. Have you or ED002 heard anything concrete regarding ineligible players ruling? Hail hail Timalloy {Ed001's Note - this is such a long answer required I would have to post a more in depth response than the space here. 007 passed the buck onto me already due to the difficulty in explaining the full ins and outs. I think a good starting point is this piece on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14535755.stm that is a very balanced piece on it. Basically this is a completely new situation and no one can be sure what will happen. The only thing that is clear is that FC Sion broke a FIFA transfer ban to sign players due to the Swiss FA being taken to court to allow it. Court action is also against FIFA and UEFA statutes, so they could face a second charge regarding that. It might have all blown over but they had the cheek to field a disputed player, who is clearly ineligible according to UEFA's laws of the game, in a UEFA sanctioned match. Now it is about what UEFA will do and whether the big clubs will see this as an opportunity to break away from UEFA and form a super league. If Sion can enlist the big clubs, then that could frighten UEFA into a weak response, if they can't I would fully expect them thrown out of the comp. But it seems to me that it comes down to UEFA waiting until after the second leg in the hope that Celtic make it easy by knocking them out. If Celtic don't win then UEFA will have a difficult situation, Sion have already shown a flagrant disregard for FIFA and UEFA by flouting the initial transfer ban and then playing one of the disputed players. I can't see UEFA being able to back down or they will be seen as even more of a joke and the whole FFP ruling will crumble as this impinges on the fiscal responsibility side of that. Sorry it is such a long winded response.}

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Ed001 I appreciate time and trouble taken to answer a difficult question, lets hope Celtic do everyone and UEFA a favour by winning next week Timalloy {Ed007's Note - All us Eds agree Tim, that we can't see any other outcome. I will pass on your thanks to 001.}

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And for meself thanx for clearing dat up lng time reader
afgandan {Ed007's Note - Welcome to the site Dan.}

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Should Celtic (Or our national association) not be appealing to UEFA. I know it seems like sour grapes but lets be clear that nobody would be slow to shaft us or any other Scottish team. We should not be taking this lying down, its far too important. Time to force the issue

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19 Aug 2011 16:57:25
How you doing Ed? Ross here, was at the game last night and could not believe what I was watching. Samaras doesn't deserve to wear the celtic jersey and Brown could'nt pass the ball 10ft and looked lost. Fair enough we're not out of Europe yet but was just wondering your thoughts on Sammy and Brown? Is it good business to tie down Brown for another 4 years on 25-30k a week? {Ed007's Note - Sorry Ross mate, I am a Scott Brown fan, at breaking up opposition play there are few better about. He had a dire game last night granted, but played in the middle, fighting for the ball etc I like him. Played out on the right just doesn't work. He is no Zidane but neither was Roy Keane. Every team needs someone who will get in where the boots are flying and win the ball, even Barca have Mascherano to do this job. And if teams want to bully us who is the first up in there faces backing his team mates? Brown is.}

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Roy keane might not have been zidane but he could make a simple 10 yard pass fair enough you need someone to put the boot in, but they need tae be able to distribute the ball Kayal is your man for that, no need for brown...

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Evening ed how do? i'm a broon fan too he got that bite we need and what i can always mind our team having in some shape or form, think with that kinda player backing you up players seem to respond too, spirits lifted,no player will ever be top every game but cant fault the fact wee man wont hide or shirk even tho he playing bad, sami is not gonna change ma mind wi play like that last night, i thought ledley and ki would play centre commons left, seem'd bit off pace last night kris bhoy, cha has some pace for sure and defo thought paddy get half hour to get at them same with young james on other wing, get rite at them,crosses into box action in final third a bit more direct, so glad we got keeper in hope he grows now into it more push on from last years experiences, as you said previous few in's an out to come we hope,never been forster fan but he's ther and al support him

ktf davybhoy {Ed007's Note - Evening Davy.}

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19 Aug 2011 16:39:11
The thing with the EPL is money, Man Utd,Man City, Chelsea even Arsenal would be in administration by now along with the other teams in the league if it wasn't for sponsorship. Now to my point Celtic and Rangers ARE huge clubs the biggest derby in the world. The only reason we can't attract players is the league and money, if we moved to EPL. I can guarantee with in 5 years Celtic or Rangers would be in the top 6 of the League because both clubs are known the world over FACT

Chad

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The first point is slightly irrelevant as the sponsorship is all relative. Englands top clubs wouldnt spend so much if not for the sponsorship so wouldnt be in administration. If Rangers and Celtic want to be in the Premier League then they should earn it like everybody else. Now I understand that they are far too big a clubs to be put in at the bottom of the football ladder but you cannot just hand them a place in the EPL. I would rather see the Championship extended to 26 teams and the Old Firm have to earn promotion. Something both sets of fans seem to feel confident of. Of course that would set a precedent. The other, and more preferable, option is to work on improving the SPL. Getting sectarianism out of the game, keeping your top young talent and bringing in quality people from abroad. Part of that would be getting greater coverage for the other 10 SPL clubs and allow Rangers and Celtic less of a monopoly. It would be a long old road but nobody said it would be easy.

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Hi TK Red welcome to Celtic pages. I take most of your points about earning an EPL place but most English clubs are frightened to give us a chance because if we get decent tv money with Celtic/Rangers huge fan base we would be in EPL replacing some smaller clubs, granted it could take some time. As for your point about setting a precedent what about Swansea? a Welsh team in English premier league. Hail hail Timalloy

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Yeah but Swansea have worked their way up through the leagues and havent just been handed a place in the EPL or the Championship. So my point is that, I presume, Celtic and Rangers fans wouldnt be happy being shunted into League 2 (or lower) yet allowing the 2 clubs into the league any higher would set a precedent for any other Welsh, Scottish or Irish clubs who hold aspirations to join the EPL.
Perhaps smaller English clubs ARE afraid of being pushed aside by the Old Firm but that they would be right to feel agrieved. Those smaller English clubs have earned the right to be where they are so why should they lose out to 2 teams who have been handed their places on reputation alone?

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - Welcome on TK mate, I was busy when I saw your first post earlier, TK is a very good friend of mine from the Man Utd site lads.}

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19 Aug 2011 15:42:01
All I can say is just support your team there is no doubt we have a few players that are just not up to it but I do believe they are trying there best especially Samaras he never hides and always gives 100% I was a bit embarressed by the reception he got when he left the field last night he is the whipping boy of the Celtic support just now get behind him and the team and I'm sure we will be fine.
Great site from a first time poster.
Cheers. {Ed007's Note - Thanks and welcome.}

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Sorry mate, but is it not samaras`s job to score goals? he is not up to it even in the spl.
i get my hopes up every time he is linked to another club.
2007- 08 21 games 6 goals
2008- 09 40 games 17 goals
2009- 10 42 games 13 goals
2010- 11 33 games 7 goals
kris commons is not even a striker but he has done better than samaras.
2010-11 21 games 14 goals.
i would like to get behind him pushing him out the door all the way to the airport.

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19 Aug 2011 15:26:54
A lot of people seem to think that the negativity on here today is a knee jerk reaction to last night's result and that if we win in Swizterland that everything will be ok.

It won't be.

The result last night has been coming for a while. We are all aware of our weaknesses, last nights result last night only serves to emphasise that.

We are sticking our heads in the sand while CFC plc stick fingers in the dam.

We are being misled by the manager and the board.

Why are they not being truthful with us?

I think we are rapidly descending to the level of a league 1 side/lower end championship side, I am not happy with that. It seems the board are though. If they are, let them come out and say it so, then they can stop charging us excessively for season books, tickets, merchandise etc.

Wake up board, buy us a decent striker before it's too late.

Rangers paid 4million for big Jelavic last year and that single transaction alone won them the league.

Board, please invest in the squad and your fans.

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Agree bud go out and buy a decent striker that could be the difference between winning the league and losing it

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19 Aug 2011 15:04:58
1. stokes is better through middle. 2. samaras isnt good enough 3. commons is far more effective on the left. 4. dont like this 4-3-3 tactic, i think our best football happens as a 4-4-2 with wide players pushing on and the strikers working with each other instead of 50 yards apart. 5. if stokes is playing out wide then samaras drops off/goes wide, who is in the middle to score???

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19 Aug 2011 14:53:08
scottish through and through love the tic love scottish fitba we might not have the best league in the world but we enjoy our games and the banter is always good poor hearts got slaughtered but big differance in money available so all scottish football club fans blank the idiots and support our game. patrick -k {Ed007's Note - Good to see CFC and Rangers fans backing up each other over this, we know our game isn't the best right now, but it's our game. And both of us have spent more money than Everton, a MASSIVE club, with a great history of their own, just shows that Skys money doesn't always mean good times.}

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19 Aug 2011 14:37:17
Ok ed - first time poster after years of reading...today's posting brought stirred up more passion than usual

So I've read the multitude of posts complaining about last nights results. I just hope that if we pump this team in the next leg, people are able to stand up and admit they shouldn't have jumped the gun with these pessimistic posts. After a very convincing win against Dundee United in the league (our main priority this season), too many people have been quick off the mark to slate the team on one performance. Lennon's still a newbee in europe, and fear of last year's european experience must have been playing a part and forced a more cautious approach. Celtic fans need to keep the faith and stop these unnecessary blogs... not like we lost 2-1 or anything. We're still in the tie and if you watch the 2nd half over you should see that Sion very rarely troubled us... Again... PLEASE POST AN APOLOGY FOR YOUR COMMENTS WHEN WE WIN IN SWITZERLAND AND LEARN TO TAME THESE OUTBURSTS... leave the negativity to the shame (sorry for the caps ed) {Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard mate.}

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19 Aug 2011 14:24:30
Lets be honest, We are not going to sign the players we could 10 years ago. Not because Celtic and Rangers are not good enough, Its because we dont have the money to buy these type of players, we dont offer the wages the smaller clubs in england can and we dont have the attraction we used to have. No larssons, no moravciks, no laudrops, no gazza's. Now its samaras, laffertys and broadfoots. We need to start building from home now, its the only option. As for Robbie Keane, Cheerio mate, NOT A REAL FAN only a real cheque balance.

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19 Aug 2011 14:14:36
Hi ed first time poster on here and i read this page all the time and see this and that said, 1 can all us faithfull Celtic Fans get behind right behind Neil and the team for next week as we and Scotland need us in the Europa League 2 I want to congratulate lawell and the board for making sure our club is stable and lucky enough that we can go into the market for players without putting the club under any stress financially and 3 We have a good team here young and still maturing together we can only improve and with a couple of additions here and there the future looks good both on the pitch and off it as well. Good luck next week Neil i and all the faithfull are behind you and the bhoys

Smudge1888 {Ed007's Note - Well said Smudge and welcome to the site mate.}

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19 Aug 2011 13:44:10
Hi ed,i am getting a bit annoyed on why celtic seem to be takin there time on buying players as there is a desprate need for at least 3 players.lets face it no big names will come to the club unless we have some one like mon back,lennon just hasn,t got the pull and seemingly the boards confidance.i think that the board will now wait to see if we are knocked out off europe before letting funds go.its a real shame that fans are spending good money every year to watch mediocre footy with the likes of samarse.in lennon we trust and he needs help and funds from the board or this title will head over the city.what do you think ed and all the best
hail..hail scoop {Ed007's Note - Thanks, but what do you mean NL doesn't have the boards confidence?}

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19 Aug 2011 13:28:39
And I think it is relevant who you support, if you were a Man Utd, Chelsea, City or LFC etc fan we could maybe take you serious, we are talking about CFC and Rangers European performances, all you Sunderland fans ever go on about is the last game against Newcastle and the next game against them, hardly a big club when you couldn't pay Darron Gibsons 40k a week wages.}

I never said i thought sunderland were a big club. We know our level and our place. Besides how different are we to you?
All you ever brag on about is Rangers, nothing else. No different to us and Newcastle.

Sunderland know there level we aspire to be bigger than what we are, not live off the things that happen in the best or the so called big support you have.

Oh and Darron Gibson.... would you pay a player like that 40k a week? Of course not (well maybe because after all he is irish and your crazy about them)... so why should we, why would anyone. You don't even have anyone on 40k a week. {Ed007's Note - Well obviously our level is European football as that is what both clubs were playing last night? And you would have paid Darron Gibson 40k a week if AF had told your NUFC supporting manager to pay it. I think you should maybe be concentrating on another 5-1 this weekend rather than what two of the biggest football clubs in the world are doing in Europe. Take Rupert Murdochs money away from your club and where would they be? Scotland have had two representatives in UEFA Cup finals in the last 8/9 years, teams in the last 16 of the CL. The only team in your area to make a mark in Europe is Middlesbrough, now that has got to hurt?}

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Touche Ed, has he crawled back under his rock now? I reckon a Celtic fan nicked his blow up doll cos he's proper got it in for us today eh.

Steve Bruce "please Sir Alex can I some more cast-offs cos I'm clueless". Makes Pardew look like a proper manager.

Shaunybhoy {Ed007's Note - His posts started taking on a racist twist so he has been removed. Just because we are Scots/Irish, racism is racism.}

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I would not even take city serious, no history,no fan base.they won a cup last season and the last time they did that was in 1976.

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19 Aug 2011 12:58:00
For god sake celtic fans WAKE UP will you.

Forget about signing better player to improve the already average squad you have got. Who can you get that is any better to play in Scotland?

Face up to it, you have spent more money in the past 5 years on players you all claim to be brilliant and will do the business, but after a few bad games you suddenly think Peter Larwell needs to spend money on better quality players to improve you.

IT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. Nobody wants to play in Scotland. Celtic are not as appealing as you all think they are, just because you have a big stadium and big fan base you think you have the right to top quality players. You don't.

Good example is your friends at Ibrox. They have hardly spent a penny over the past 3-4 years and they have won 3 titles and enjoyed good runs in Europe. So where is there excuse?

Just except the fact, your no longer the biggest club in scotland...in fact you are no longer a big club really, just an average club with a big ground.

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Mate you are blowing out you'r a**e. Im a rangers fan rite and we have done better than Celtic with not as much money. But to suggest that Celtic are not a big club is crazy. Sunderland have next to no support outside there own area, where as Rangers and Celtic have supporters all over the globe. N

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(ed could you add this to my last post) Both OF teams are known around the globe. Not bad for an avarage team. If money was not involved in football you can rest assure all but perhaps 4/5 teams in the epl would be gone and OF would still be here. IMO we are only behind, Man U, Real and barca.

c-bear85 {Ed007's Note - I can't add it when it has been posted but I'll post it no worries C-Bear.}

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Cheers ed i'v got the friday shakes and hit send by mistake. Anyway ed dont think it mattered about Celtic result last night cos that mob will be thrown out whatever happens.

c-bear85 {Ed007's Note - Rough night I take it lol. I know what you mean C-Bear, but it is hardly the point, CFC should be beating teams like that.}

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That big club sunderland got to the F.A. cup semi-final in 2004. lmfao

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19 Aug 2011 09:10:54
both old firm teams are now just a total disgrace in the european competitions it mames me l.o.l to hear you go on and on about how big you both are but really in the big picture you are both nothing or at the very best minnows if any of you 2 had played spurs last night i reckon they would still have scored 5 better you both get knocked out now before you get drawn against a real big team just an honest observation .

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What an absolute fudd. What does current ability have to do with the size of a club? The fanbase and history of both clubs are more than enough to justify the "big club" claims. You CANNOT buy a History of a club like Celtic. I noticed you haven't mentioned which club you support, although by your attitude i would assume you are a Hibs fan.

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19 Aug 2011 08:49:38
This is not a rumour, it's the truth.

Celtic FC Plc and us the Celtic Support.

What a relationship, it's all give and all take. We give our cash and they take it.

I'm sick of hearing we're working hard behind the scenes to bring in new players. Who the hell are they?

Failure by the board to spend on a goal scorer will cost us the league again this year. We should be pushing on from last year not falling further behind the forces of darkness.

We all laugh at Rangers being hoodwinked by the mysterious Mr. Whyte and his elusive finances, make no mistake, the board of CFC take us for mugs too.

Hooper and stokes are at best average, yeah they score goals in a poor league but they are not what we need. We need someone who can score goals against a good defence.
We have plenty who can score against poor defences.

We should have bought Shane Long January 2011 and Keane this summer.

Board get your finger out before it's too late.

Do you want to see all the empty seats of the Morbray era.

Speculate to accumulate before it's too late.

There is a global recession, Celtic supporters are struggling financially, the least we deserve is a team worth supporting.

Finally I was disgusted by Lennon playing Foster last night, could have back fired big time. What time had Foster to get to know the Captain of the Defence Kelvin Wilson, none. Crazy decision and shameful too.

It's getting harder to keep the faith.

Colum Mc.

What's your opinion Ed, you seem to be very balanced and knowledgable on all things Celtic. {Ed007's Note - I try not to get caught up in the hysteria that follows a bad result/game, some people would think we got a drubbing with some of the reactions.}

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Could not agree with this more mate, Hooper is slightly better than average though. Still, regardless of who we do/dont sign, we need to be behind the team

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19 Aug 2011 07:51:03
i was a fan of samaras at one time but georgios its time to go. Why not give rasmussen a run in the team? He had a reasonable goals to game ratio before he came to celtic. definetely need a poacher why not get wee skippy back?

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19 Aug 2011 06:28:39
Samaras is an utter waste of time , he is heartless , clueless and useless, or are we only allowed to criticise players you don't rate

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19 Aug 2011 02:01:55
i have read all the posts on this site and was at the game tonight, i agree yes we were poor tonight but at least we drawed.

in response to greg's post i have never been a fan of samaras as i think he is highly overated by some celtic fans and the media. you are saying that we shlould give samaras a chance he signed in 2008 come on how many chances and time does he need, he is a striker that doesnt score enough and dont you think the fans and the club deserve more from him. tonight was the final nail in the coffin for him in my mind its time to get rid of the dead wood and bring in players who can do the job they get paid thousands of pounds a week to do.

however i do agree with you on mccourt i am not a big fan to be honest but its a bad day when your prayin for him to come on the park to try and salvage something from a game.

i just hope we can go over there and win

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