Celtic Banter Archive September 18 2016

18 Sep 2016 23:31:05
just watching Sportscene

Rangers V RC
StJ V Hearts

4 standout goalies and so was Inverness'

Rivals looking at us now and saying - there's the weakness - its glaring and something has to be done now

or any good work done so far will be undone.

19 Sep 2016 03:19:41
When Barton returns to Sevco training this morning after being suspended will he now be known as The Joey Barton or is he still the same player? lol.

19 Sep 2016 07:07:26
We do need another GK but all the clamour for Fasan, granted Iv not seen enough of him to say if he's good or not but he can't be that great if he couldn't displace Gordon?

19 Sep 2016 08:04:33
I don't think Gordon's a bad keeper. When was the last time we had a solid, settled back 4? Ambrose- rotten, boyata- no much better, janko- just as bad, simonovic- constantly been injured, any keeper no matter who they are would have mistakes in them with guys like that in front of them.

19 Sep 2016 22:40:09
I think, I would welcome our domestic opponents thinking we had a weak goalie and bombarding shots from everywhere . I would be more worried if they kept a patient build up, as they are likely to get into positions on some occasions to really hurt us . The number of goals we concede from 25 yds and more are quite few .
O my O my we have to be hysterical and create mountains out of mole hills.

18 Sep 2016 22:07:02
My thoughts on today are all about missed chances, too many. However you have to make chances to miss. We are creating a lot of goal scoring oppertunities and most games we will take them. There will be a couple of games like today over the season so over all i'm still pretty pleased with how things are going. It would be harsh to single any player out for criticism so far, even the new keeper, we are still learning the new gaffers ways. Next up Alloa, wouldn't want too many fringe players playing, i really want this treble🏆🏆🏆.

18 Sep 2016 22:58:45
Roberts had a poor game today. A few better decisions in key areas -- two that would have lost certainly led to tap ins -- and we win the match comfortably.

19 Sep 2016 08:03:05
Roberts hasn't looked sharp since his injury which is understandable but I think Forrest will think himself unlucky to have lost his place.

19 Sep 2016 09:00:48
Roberts wasn't effective. He was chopped down a few times after some good runs, but if he wants to become a great player, he has to realise it's not always about him and his ability. All round there were too many bad final balls and a rushed shoot on site attitude. For me though, Roberts gets in ahead of Forrest. Up until his goal I was ready for Sinclair to be hooked too. I'd imagine he'll start the next game though - that's not a bad record at all he's set to break if he scores.

19 Sep 2016 11:48:00
Roberts is still reliving the ragers miss in the cup - that gave his confidence a huge dunt - He hasn't been the same player since - stoopid of him to do the press conference and say "ill no dae that again" - the 50 50 with messi didn't repair him either.

play him up front on Tuesday and get everyone to fire the baw into the box - once he scores, even off his back or neck or arse - he'll be all good.

21 Sep 2016 14:19:33
Many complain about our goalie, however I think Roberts was our weak link on Sunday
When the score was 2-1 he was put in behind the defence ten yds out on wing with two Celtic players free in box and he messed up and didn't set up the inevitable goal.
Roberts was brilliant last half of last season, our best player but this season Forrest has clearly out shone him . Obviously I don't think we can play both but I would prefer James playing first 45 mins to 1 hour and give Paddy a chance to build up his confidence in the remainder of match .

Many use to complain about J F not covering back but this season he has done that better and I expect P R to be working on that aspect too. I am not wanting to criticise Paddy, I just want him back to his excellent best.

18 Sep 2016 18:25:33
After that performance get caleys keeper signed lol. But in all honesty I don't like de vries he's jus not up to the job. Gordon for me has been a decent enough keeper in his time with the club.

18 Sep 2016 20:58:47
No a fan CG but looks better keeper bud, thought Rodgers made a bit error resting Toure I know we had enough chances and shouldn't have needed Kolo but if it was just to give him a rest surely you do that against alloa without being disrespectful to them inverness a horrible place for us just reckon he got back 4 wrong today would even rather he started Jozo instead a Gamboa lad looked off the pace big time.

18 Sep 2016 21:49:32
Don't disagree there buddy. But was good to get simo a run out today. Bk to goalie probably lol John ruddy or micheal vorm for me would do fine. De vries looks afraid of bein celtic goalie.

19 Sep 2016 00:54:58
Aye, Chris: Gamboa added nothing. Scratching me head on that one tho I've read the press.

19 Sep 2016 01:43:37
Yep De Vries just doesn't look commanding enough for me just doesn't seem to boss he's defence, we conceading far too many goals and criminal ones at that like second 1 today, no sure what they doing way defence in training but also really poor decision making at other end today as well felt we tried to walk ball into net, wee Paddy could have squared to 3 players in box then game was over but tbh we had enough chances to bury game just disappointed way team today but let's get back to winning ways asap the treble on for us this year hail hail.

18 Sep 2016 17:23:18
How many chances did we have to win the match? It should have been 5-1 but no we let them in. The goal keeper will surely be dropped, he spooks the players in front of him and does not have their confidence.

18 Sep 2016 18:06:18
Brendon needs to swallow his pride and put Gordon back in. It may even help De Vires to understand he needs to do better. In 4 games I have not seen him make a save you wouldn't expect him to make. Everything hit at him goes in. This goal keeper crap about playing with your feet is pure none sense, even if Guadiola is promoting it. A keeper needs to be good with his hands, be able to stop a shot. Look at the keeper we come up against today. Who cares if he can't play out from the back, he got them the point today. DE VIres cost us our point. This play with your feet stuff out from the back is pure vanity. Any keeper can knock it 20 yards to a full back. Also if Gordon can't get in now what message does that send to him? Brendon don't bottle it, your man is not upto the task.

18 Sep 2016 18:29:44
Stevie Wonder can see that De Vries is not better than Gordon, Gordon has his faults but he is a far better keeper than Rodgers own signing and Rodgers stubborness in not seeing this has cost us points today, even last week he stood like a dummy on the line when sevco scored.

18 Sep 2016 19:08:22
Stevie wonder would be better in goals than de vries mate! 😂😂😂.

18 Sep 2016 19:33:57
If BR does not change the keeper against Alloa then I would say he is going to persist with him for the foreseeable!

18 Sep 2016 19:46:09
Your not wrong Wiss he reminds me of Ian Andrews.

18 Sep 2016 20:35:26
Who is Ian Andrews.

18 Sep 2016 21:22:11
Carl muggleton.

18 Sep 2016 21:59:23
Played for us late 80s early 90s, made his debut against the huns and we got pumped 5-1.

19 Sep 2016 01:30:24
It's one of those points that drives me to the point of insanity. Any GK that has made it as a professional should be able to kick a ball 50yards into any area of the pitch, not pick out a run but at least in an area where a teammate is. What have they done all thier lives in training? Doris hasn't been tested yet. He has been skelped for a few. As the season goes by I'm going to keep an eye on his bravery. I honestly think he is a bit blinded by the challenge (and 35) to hit the ground running with us right away. I'm hoping he improves once he is settled because right now the decision between our no 1 and 2 is like having your knackers on the block and having to choose.

19 Sep 2016 08:44:55
It's not about swallowing pride fir Brendan, it's about a decision. He made a call it didn't work. He just changes it. End of.

21 Sep 2016 14:31:13
It's a pity early to talk about swallowing pride, it's a bit of a I dare u type of statement
I think Brendan should have rested DVries on Sunday, after conceding 7 in the previous game . Many goalies confidence would be shattered after conceding 7
The best goal keeper I ever saw was in my mind big Pat Jennings he was almost completely unbeaten but on the odd occasion he conceded a couple he often became a wee bit shakey and often let in one or two soft enough goals before the end .
I wouldn't dare to suggest Brendan got it wrong but Gordon in goals on Sunday and Vries in tonight and then after tonight decide for weekend.

18 Sep 2016 17:05:45
Our severe defensive deficiencies were glossed over against Barcelona because of their standard, but once again we lose more very soft goals to an average team in a game we dominate for almost 90 mins.
OK it's the first league points dropped, but it was unnecessary and self inflicted.
It's obvious we won't score four and five goals every week, (even when we create a dozen chances like today) ; but it's also obvious we have a real goalkeeping crisis and inability to defend all over the pitch, whether it's chasing back, covering, tackling and most importantly defending set pieces.
There is a lot to appreciate in the attacking side - even though we missed a hat-full today, but we will drop more points and worse if we don't sort this out quickly?
I don't know if this is relevant, but what does John Kennedy do at the club these days by the way?

18 Sep 2016 17:31:07
For its defensive training is look for a new coach.

18 Sep 2016 17:49:41
11 in 67

I said something similar earlier in the year. our shot to goal conceded ratio must be in the 40 to 50% region while our goal scoring is in the 5 to 10% region.

I don't expect us to win every game but both of these stats will have to improve or we will drop a lot more points. 2 goals from 23 chances isn't good enough.

18 Sep 2016 18:42:36
Kennedy should have went with they other duds who's tactics we had to endure last season.

19 Sep 2016 00:59:23
11/ 67: what team are you actually managing? Analysis is tight (as is the communication) .

19 Sep 2016 01:41:17
Jamesbhoy, I don't know why he is there. My point for saying that is I firmly belive that this is the biggest club he will ever work for even at his young coaching age.

21 Sep 2016 14:34:57
Do u think there is any chance that we are making Ambrose replacement by throwing all the abuse we can muster at a goal keeper who has only played a few matches . I don't know about you, but I would like to see him settle down in his new team and play well.

18 Sep 2016 16:57:40
Absolute garbage. so many players just going through the motions. If only our keeper could save the ball with his feet he would be a world beater. Not clinical enough in front of goal against a poor Inverness team. Good to see Simonuvic back he looks assured on the ball. Better than Sviatchenko who is slow and continually gets caught out of position. Lucky to stay on the park in the first half for an obvious penalty to them. Raging 😣.

18 Sep 2016 17:25:31
There keeper was outstanding ours was horrible apart from that we where actually no bad deserved the win.

18 Sep 2016 16:56:15
De vries not fit to wear the jersey. Weak at crosses and shot stopping which should be priority. Cost 2 goals has to catch the cross a shocking signing and a waste of wages.

20 Sep 2016 00:14:42
It's good to see our fans give a new player time to settle in .
God, it's good Larsson didn't have forums to put up with, how would have been written off after his first substitute appearance .

18 Sep 2016 14:30:40
We may have got pumped by Barcelona bhoys but it could be worse u could be a utd fan pumped by your nearest rivals beaten by a mediocre Dutch team and now pumped by relegation candidates after spending a kings ransom jeez.

18 Sep 2016 14:44:18
i really don't get all the fuss about Pogba? We saw a few real world class players on Tuesday and why this guy has such a high profile and value is baffling?
Joe-say obviously has to play him, but he seems to be disrupting the whole balance and effectiveness of half the team and so far I haven't seen anything special. Maybe he is still settling down and finding his feet, but if you pay that amount for any player, you'd expect them to step into any side and play?

18 Sep 2016 14:59:10
Agree Pogba been ordinary but it's early days I think there was better on show at the euros than him and would have cost a lot less, think utd were flexing there muscles, but city look way ahead imo Jose a spent force.

18 Sep 2016 15:29:56
Gareth bale hardly set the heather on fire in his 1st season, but agree don't see the fuss about him, and I don't think him or bale are worth that sort of money.

18 Sep 2016 15:51:23
Said for I don't know how long that pogba is one of the worlds most overrated players! If he's worth 90 million what is Barcelona front 3 worth! I actually used to have a soft spot for man Utd in my younger years but I can't stand mourinho and any team he manages I want to see pumped! And back to the fee pogba came in for. if ever anything proved that football has gone bonkers then it's that! I've actually stopped watching EPL games because it just makes me sick watch mediocre pish that's built up to be the greatest thing since sliced bread!

18 Sep 2016 15:58:02
Jose as av said is a spent force every bad result is someone else's fault and never been a fan of utd.

18 Sep 2016 16:54:17
I think Jose treatment of Mata couple of weeks ago, shows exactly the type of man he is, definitely becoming a spent force.
Was reading on the paper today anout former Real Madrid chairman, and he reckons England get 4 times the money that Spain get.

20 Sep 2016 00:20:14
I think Pogba even when he is having a very good game only plays in patches . One thing about him he is so tall in the middle of the pitch you can never have any doubt whether it is him or someone else .
Other players apart from Rooney and his particular space can be hard enough to identify.

18 Sep 2016 11:13:41
Playing bottom of the league today but ICT away is usually tricky. After Tuesday's defeat it would be nice if they could go out and hammer ICT but any win will do for me today, knowing that we're 5 points clear with a game in hand. I'll take a stab at 4-0 (Dembele, Sinclair, Rogic, Roberts) . HH.

18 Sep 2016 08:22:47
Scottish football for me will never move forward until we cut down on the amount of teams we have. There is a better chance of competition if a lot of the smaller clubs joined together make them bigger clubs if that makes sense. Examples for me Dundee and Dundee Utd hearts and hibs imagine an Edinburgh team and a Dundee team joined bigger clubs better chance to compete. I know it will never happen and totally understand the fans of these clubs wouldn't want it but until we have bigger clubs to compete against we can only Improve so much and TVs money will never get better. other examples st. mirren Morton Dunfermline raith Ayr Kilmarnock Inverness Ross county rangers Patrick thistle. Again I know it won't happen but something needs to change in Scottish football.

18 Sep 2016 10:07:45
perhaps merge Celtic and Ragers and Partick, just one Glasgow club.
Then we would be able to compete with Barca.

18 Sep 2016 10:10:04
Of course we have too many teams for such a small country, without willingness to merge or even ground-share because pride and stubbornness outweighs economics and common sense.
Our own club have also shown a complacency and shortsightedness when our main rival was liquidated in 2012.
Instead of consolidation and improvement, we took domestic success for granted and not only stood still, but continually replaced top players with inferior replicas that were not able to compete or represent the club in Europe to an acceptable standard.
Of course we will always be behind the financial giants, but that has always been the case - and although we have always had problems away from Celtic Park getting a result, we were very rarely hammered without a fight and never totally surrendered like we did last Tuesday and we were even feared at home by many.

18 Sep 2016 13:42:40
Digi: so the new team would be called CRAP, hahaha

well it sums up 1 of the teams within the new name, would we just add the year of the new formation that would allow us to just stay the same. :)

18 Sep 2016 22:17:13
good spot - lol

I was being feshicious, fascecious, fashecious - a smart arse.

20 Sep 2016 00:25:57
I think the board &? football management are afraid that if they did buy too high a standard of player, they would either demand a move as they have often done, or else become complacent and not play up to their standard in their mistaken belief they can raise their standard for European football.