Celtic Banter Archive October 18 2017

18 Oct 2017 23:25:22
We are a young team, playing in a pretty poor league and when we play Psg or Bayern we are playing the best players in the world. These teams are filled with seasoned internationals who are used to wining champions leagues and world cups.
We need to put it in perspective and hopefully learn over a couple of seasons in the group stages.
Our realistic target was getting more points than Anderlecht and we are on course to do that.

19 Oct 2017 00:08:38
Saintboneventure you are correct to a point. We understand we are behind PSG, Bayern, Man City etc but you need to adapt your game plan. Brendan seems to think that we should still try and play the same way we do in the league? We can't play that way because we don't have the ball and the other players are superior so we re always going to struggle.

We need to change the way we play in Europe not simply say we won't change. Unless we change we will continue to be beaten. You can go out against teams like PSG and Bayern and play wide. You need to be very compact and rely on hitting on the break, give the ball up when they are in front of you and try and snatch something. Trying to press and play these teams like SPL teams is wrong. BR has got it wrong in Europe several times now.

19 Oct 2017 06:33:48
Better opposition granted. Put that aside it still irkes me that we continue to suffer from rabbit in the headlight syndrome and misplace simple passes. Never helps in these ties.

19 Oct 2017 07:43:50
Doesn't matter how good the opposition is, there is no excuse for misplaced passes, in fact when you give away possession cheaply, you not only disupt your own teams momentum, you fill the opposition with confidence, and make them look better than they are.

19 Oct 2017 10:23:34
Aindoh the mis placed passes comes from the quality and fitness of opposition we're up against, we've got to pass that second or two quicker than in our domestic games hence mistakes happen. Unfortunately this is the difference between £50 million and £5 million pound players they think quicker and pass accurately quicker.

18 Oct 2017 22:46:11
I love Griff but I just think Dembele is better suited for CL games - purely for his height and hold up play. Not a good night bhoys but hopefully forgotten by beating Hibs.

18 Oct 2017 23:36:29
Griff had nothing to work with. Even a rubbish outfit like Scotland manages to get him into the game. I do agree that Moussa is better suited for the lone striker role in a way, but Griff has become a world class forward and we'll be lucky to hold on to him.

18 Oct 2017 23:52:01
Ntcham is the weak link in midfield for me. He isn't a defensive mid and he isn't an attacking mid imo. Ok for the SPFL but wants to much time on the ball and his decision making poor, gives ball away. Wee McGregor would be better in there more legs and forward thinking also.

19 Oct 2017 00:24:32
I agree about Ntcham, I think he is being thrown into these big games, and I don't think he is ready for them, he gave the ball away a lot against psg and the same tonight, when someone is regularly giving the ball away, it puts everyone under pressure, I would find some way of keeping Griffith's in the team even when Dembelle us playing.

19 Oct 2017 02:22:31
Ntcham is a complete and utter waste of money. the vast majority of passes are utter Pish and his shooting is woeful.

Two signings from Rogers that are piss poor and having to play Gamboa in a makeshift defence, when even the full stength one is not up to CL life.

I'm hoping thus gas the same effect as the semi final defeat to the dark side.

The board need to sanction investment and Rigets needs to sell Ntcham and Hayes and buy a few players.

Rogers gloss is fading with me for his insistence on playing his £4.5m buy and letting Gamboa back on the pitch at half time.

We have regressed as a team since last year. Our balance and power have gone with Sideyways Sid Ntcham playing the safe baw or just giving it away.

Utter waste of a jersey.

19 Oct 2017 04:59:09
Gamboa is useless how many times does he allow the boy to cross, at that level out his depth. we need to get a couple of decent defenders in for europa cup presuming we qualify.

19 Oct 2017 07:40:26
I'd like to defend Ntcham as I think there's a real player in there . . . but you are all of course right. He's seemed nervous and hasn't been getting the basic stuff correct. Maybe he needs more time to shoulder the obvious responsibility. Saying that, Broony and Armstrong were no better last night: many of the players were obviously struggling to compete with a better class of player on a one-on-one matchup.

19 Oct 2017 08:34:42
Cav agree think ntcham needs time but gamboa had 90 mins to at least put a tackle in and failed miserably he won't do for that level domestic level at best.

19 Oct 2017 09:16:43
I agree Magicpole.
I think Ntcham is close to being as bad as N'Guemo - and I thought he was one of the worst players to ever wear a Celtic shirt. Ntcham offers nothing at all - he hardly wins the ball and his distribution is appalling: it's like playing other a man down. McGregor is a far better option and so is Rogic.

Gamboa was an absolute liability as well - his pace is meant to be his main attribute but you would never have known he had any at all based on last nights effort.
I think Rodgers has made mistakes in both the game against PSG and again last night: against PSG Tierney was being pulled inside to almost play as an extra centre back and they had acres of space and time down their right hand side - last night Gamboa was horribly exposed time and time again.

On both occasions Rodgers did nothing to change formation or personnel to try and cut those threats out and we were picked off at will: allowing that to continue without trying to do something about it is. It good enough.

19 Oct 2017 09:14:31
Giving him more time to slow us down is a mistake. He is awful and should be punted. No doubt he will be played on Saturday and will be gash again, ruining our shape and movement. Giving Hibs hope until he is hooked at 60 minutes.

He's a midfield Regi Blinker. Totally rubbish and in need of getting rid.

The whole balls up signing wise in the summer, has left us worse, not better than we were last year. If you don't think so watch every game we have played so far.

We have invested/ wasted £5.8m of the hard earned CL money. We can't afford to waste anymore.

I watched Rogers post match interview.

I don't know what fecking game he was watching, it must have been on HD or something because it wasn't the game I endured.

All the defensive issues we have are down to Rogers. He talks about being a CL team, then buys two utter duds and fails to bring in defenders.

If he was getting a report card from me it would simply say, Pish. Last year is gone. Sort out your defence and don't even try to defend the signing of Hayes.

I hope the board took note of the need to burst a £20 note come January.

Breath should not be held.

19 Oct 2017 12:27:25
Armstrong should be playing alongside brown in midfield and rogic in number 10 role. Ntcham so far iff the mark ag this level. Should be playing with tried and tursted players.

19 Oct 2017 14:30:13
pull yer heads in, what's wrong with you pair
the shite your spouting about ntcham is the same crap
i heard about biton and big rogic and they both turned it around the boy ntcham has got class written all over him
feck sake boys young only been here a few months and il bet he turns out to be another top signing come the end off
season, and by the way managers can make mistakes they're not immune to it but rodgers knows his stuff get off there backs.

19 Oct 2017 15:15:59
Again, well said Magicpole.
What I don't understand is the refusal to try and change things. The signings have also been very poor - if reports were tonne believed, Ntcham was far from being our first choice target. It looks to me a bit like a desperation signing. But why? Midfield is our strongest area and we have loads of options. Now we are stuck with a £4.5 million dud who will probably get picked purely to justify the price tag. Brown, Armstrong, Rogic, McGregor, Henderson and even Bitton are better than Ntcham - and that just makes his signing all the more galling.

18 Oct 2017 21:38:04
Poor result and slow start again but the positives are we never gave up felt we deserved a consolation goal had some good chances Sinclair was unlucky with his offside goal.

18 Oct 2017 23:38:04
never got down more like.

18 Oct 2017 19:24:49
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new player profile about, Naby Keita

18 Oct 2017 18:12:44
Gordon
Gamboa Lustig Boyata Eric KT
Roberts Brown Armstrong Sinclair
Griffiths
5-4-1
My team for tonight.

18 Oct 2017 16:59:39
One of the girls made this suggestion for tonight.
With Celtic playing Bayern away than at home, why not treat games as a two legged affair and try and "qualify" after game at Celtic Park.
ie 2-2 tonight and 1-1 Parkhead, Celtic go through on away goals lol or as in this CL group a better head to head than Bayern.

18 Oct 2017 18:03:31
A better head to head vs. Bayern would be an achievement in itself Tim, and could, of course, see us through to the last 16. To be honest when the draw was made for the group any point against Bayern or PSG stood out as an absolute bonus for me. The target was finishing above Anderlecht for me personally, and we look on course to do that.

19 Oct 2017 01:33:26
Spot on Jim being in Europe after xmas was the target along with the Treble! A good performance with a bit of fight and do themselves justice.

18 Oct 2017
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