Celtic Banter Archive May 18 2019

18 May 2019 18:55:40
Manchester City, treble done, they press high up the park and they play football in the opponents half, their better players do the rest, remember when.

18 May 2019 19:53:19
Their players on the bench cost more than the whole Watford squad.

18 May 2019 22:55:39
Equivalent to Celtic v Hearts you might say. Celtic v Watford might be interesting as a contest. Let's give hearts the same sort of doing. Take risks in the final third and don't be afraid to get bodies in the box and we'll be fine.

18 May 2019 18:10:06
Got a gut wrenching it will be Chris Houghton.

18 May 2019 18:33:16
Wouldn't set the heather a light but not the worse choice.

18 May 2019 18:36:14
Should be Clarke if going cheap.

18 May 2019 18:40:32
Tesla, Clarke is the new Scotland boss.

18 May 2019 19:08:26
Definitely don't think it's going to be Lenny myself as I've said all along, I think he probably knows it's not going to be him either.

18 May 2019 19:21:09
A good move for Scotland if so. In saying that i would say it's a poor move for Clarke.

As much as he's the best fit for the role, I don't think we have enough quality at the moment overall regardless of who is in charge.

Somewhere like Celtic at least would give the chance to build something.

He would play a simpler tactic which imo we need. Benfica just scored over 100 league goals.

Playing the so called dead 442 tactic often or 451. Also reaching Europa semis.

Like to see us go two up top. Think Eddie would thrive with a partner as would Griffith's if he can sort himself out.

18 May 2019 19:22:04
Of the available managers around I'd love to Laurent Blanc get the job, would be absolutely amazing for the club if we could pull something like that off.

18 May 2019 19:54:02
Philip Cocu would be the one who would excite me most but he hasn’t even been linked I’ve just saw his name mentioned in this site.

18 May 2019 20:05:37
With Clarke missing his family so much the Scotland job is perfect for him.

18 May 2019 20:32:35
Ice Man yes Cocu would certainly be excellent guy to get but I couldn't see him leave the job he is in to come to Celtic.

{Ed007's Note - Cocu's been out a job since last year mate, his time at Fenerbahce didn't go too well.}

18 May 2019 20:35:02
LB was an ok manager, but Wats he done for the past 3 yrs, y has no other team appointed him?

Ice man I also think cocu would b a gd appointment, his team's play gd football n he brings young players through,

18 May 2019 20:36:59
Sorry my bad just remembered he is also out of a job at the moment, while I do think he would also be good manager to have I think I prefer the idea of Laurent Blanc and all he can bring to the table.

18 May 2019 23:32:05
Blanc is a good manager and as he was PSG manager sometimes the job he done at Bordeaux is forgotten.

However he's been out of work since 2016 and I'd imagine had much bigger offers than Celtic.

So he's maybe just enjoying his payoff from PSG.

19 May 2019 09:31:29
Ice man I mentioned cocu a few weeks back. He ticks every box for me.

19 May 2019 18:03:17
Couch would excite me. Would definitely attract younger players looking to make a name in Europe and play the style of football we’re looking for.

18 May 2019 16:26:17
Quite possibly Broony being out the cup final may be a blessing in disguise, can't help thinking back to end of October and November with Calmac, Rogic and Ntcham and later Christie in midfield we were actually blowing teams away for the only point this season. Fast attacking one touch football that was a joy to watch 💚🍀.

18 May 2019 16:39:50
Problem with that is Rogic and Ntcham were playing well.
Rogic has been chronic since he came back and Ntcham has hardly played lately.

18 May 2019 18:20:12
I don't remember Ntcham really being involved at all during that period. The midfield 3 was McGregor, Christie and Rogic pretty much every game as far as I recall.

18 May 2019 15:39:44
Don't know about you guys but I'm looking forward to next season big time. I know there is a cup final to contend with and I am not taking it for granted but to leave it to side for the time being, I honestly think we are in a very strong position.
Yes we have many leaving (most of we want to leave) but we have 2 americans available to us, Shved coming in who looks a find, Arazani to come back and again the boy looks talented. we have more goals available assuming griff comes back, and maybe a physical presence with Bayo.
With a possibility of benko staying Christie and KT in full flight and Koassi making himself available the squad is getting stronger by the minute.
All this without buying a player, now I know we don't always spend the money but in recent times we have broke our transfer record, had a manager on 3/ 4 million a year and bid 7/ 8 mill for castagne, all pointing to that they are prepared to spend money. (30-40m in bank? )
Not to mention Lustig and Sinclair both potentially staying and if not can be replaced with money coming in. I also expect Ntcham to be sold with the potential 8-10m coming in.
So not looking too bad.
Meanwhile over ay Trophyless FC they are getting Hastie, Stewart, Jones, and the real possibility of losing their 2 best players in Kent and Morelos.
But hey they are coming for us as we in turmoil and they are on the up lol.
If this is turmoil keep it coming I luuuurrrrvvvv turmoil.
9 and 9 coming up.

18 May 2019 16:44:20
Good post up until you mentioned Lustig staying!
He was past it 2 seasons ago and it's crazy that he is still getting a game never mind people thinking he should get a new contract.

18 May 2019 17:16:36
Rayman I like your optimistic outlook for next season. I agree with 2 or 3 new additions we should be heading for another treble 🍀.

18 May 2019 18:05:15
Think it’s safe to say we need more than 2-3 players! A new RB and centre half are essential, along with a back up centre back and left back for tierney! A new striker for me is a must and I would also be looking for a new left winger. that's 6 new players just to start and that’s before we possibly sell ntcham or rogic who have been terrible this season! Make no mistake there’s a massive rebuild needed this summer and so many important decisions to be made after next Saturday! The first being who the manager is going to be! Let’s not rest on our Laurels!

18 May 2019 12:25:46
With cup final up next week any player carrying knocks will not be gambled I hope. Love to see couple of youngsters get a chance not sure who will play but looking forward to celebrate 8 in a row and great to see my favourite player back at Celtic park Paul McStay.

18 May 2019 09:34:52
Anyone hear the story fae McAvennie about the players training.

Seems Lennon shouted at a certain player and the player responded by moaning that Rodgers never shouted at them.

Sign of players not buying it to Lennons methods?

18 May 2019 09:49:00
Players are too easy to offend these days. Whoever the player was needs to realise that Rodgers is gone and whatever manager takes the reigns next season will have different methods from the previous managers.

I don’t think just because a certain player spoke back to Lenny that the squad aren’t buying into him and his ideas.

Lennon should be respected and players should knuckle down and train hard.

18 May 2019 09:55:32
The wee soul prob on about 15k a week or more and the coach shouted at him lucky he's no play ing in the juniors or the amateurs.

{Ed007's Note - McAvennie has 'forgot' to mention that Lennon was actually screaming, cursing and swearing in a young player's face hence the "Brendan never shouted at us like that" statement which McAvennie has shortened to suit and plenty of the older players who felt Lennon was out of order made that known - and not just to Lennon.
The situation could easily have escalated to a similar position that cost Lennon the Hibs job if 2 senior players hadn't spoken to the youngsters dad and stopped him getting their agent and Peter Lawwell involved.
It's 2018 and even poor wee souls on £15k a week are protected by the law at work.}

18 May 2019 10:26:47
Ed I've no idea what was said and prob not does anyone else so I am replying to the post which states a certain player no ages were mentioned if it's true it was a kid fair enough point taken.

{Ed007's Note - It doesn't matter what age the player is, you simply can't go around screaming obscenities into anyone's face in the workplace. It's not the first time this season that Lennon's treatment of players and his attitude towards them has been called into question.}

18 May 2019 10:31:00
Guys that type of management has died out in the game and managers that do it are either retiring of can't get decent jobs anymore.

You've got to be able to manage a players and treat them like adults now a days.

If a player is moaning that Rodgers never shouted at them I think it's a sure sign they ain't happy with how it's going.
Because if one player willing to come out with that then there has been talking among the players.

18 May 2019 11:03:44
Fair point although a rollicking now and again doesn't do any harm they're a spoilt and protected species. god knows how fergie or Keane would handle this environment these days.

{Ed007's Note - It's hard to believe but I've heard that Keane isn't really one for bawling and shouting at his players as he thinks that's something the captain & senior players should do.}

18 May 2019 11:28:25
Fair dos captain 👍🤣.

{Ed007's Note - 😁

18 May 2019 11:34:50
That is practically 'bullying' in the workplace and when done publicly it causes too many negative emotions and reactions.
Not ideal preparation for a Cup Final and not a good way to apply for a much-wanted managerial position?

18 May 2019 13:18:26
Players for big clubs need to be mentally strong and capable of dealing with intense criticism from the manager to the fans.

Soft fans nowadays with their "new age football" methods about what is right or wrong is mental.

You people would have the audacity to tell Alex Ferguson his method are wrong lol. What a joke.

{Ed001's Note - Alex Ferguson would tell you that he had to change his methods and never used the 'hairdryer' on young players and used it less and less as time went on. Perhaps you should actually do some research on modern times and get yourself out of the 1950s.}

18 May 2019 13:51:03
He picked his targets. He decided what guys to shout at and what guys to be softer with

Often he would shout at players he knew he could handle it, even if they done nothing wrong as an indirect criticism of other players without having to single them out.

I've researched his methods well and listened to players talk about his methods also.

He was still shouting when his team deserved it.

{Ed001's Note - you might want to tell him that, only he says differently and I would believe him over any 'research' you have done.}

18 May 2019 14:17:03
This is information from Ferguson himself and guys like Neville, Ferdinand etc who played under him.

He saved the actual hairdryer for the bigger occasions

But otherwise he was happy to criticise players. In his own words saying he couldn't wait till Monday

And if players answer him back he went straight through them.

So maybe sort your own research methods.

If Ferguson felt a player sank by being directly criticised he would address the whole team but he wouldn't ever hold back.

1950s was before Ferguson's time as a manager btw.

{Ed001's Note - if you say so. But you will find that criticising is nothing to do with screaming in a player's face. Neville and Ferdinand make up stories for after dinner speeches etc a bit like Dean Saunders did about Clough. Now please don't bother arguing, you are the most ignorantly arrogant poster on any of our sites and there is no point talking to you as you won't listen. You think you know it all.

Oh and the 1950s clearly went over your head in your self righteous attempts to be a know it all.

You are no Tesla that is for sure.}

18 May 2019 15:07:16
It's all coming out now. By all means give someone a rocket if they aren't pulling their weight in a game but in training is a joke. Heard rumours of the sports science guy being appalled at Lennons methods and isn't happy with how he does things. Brendan was always very calm and collected and that usually transferred to the squad. Always found Lennon to be too bitter and didn't conduct himself well in post match interviews. Hopefully we set the bar higher than him and these things have ruled him out of consideration.

18 May 2019 22:15:49
Times have changed so much so, that Roy Keane nor M O'Neil didn't even turn up at ROI training , probably because they knew it would end up in a row if they were there. Didn't B R annoy Poor Sterling and that set off his move from L'pool to Manchester City .
I am beginning to think that it would be better for everyone if Lennon doesn't finish up with Celtic job . Even though there are very few managing a top flight team who has as many SPL trophies as manager as Lennon .
Too many so called Celtic supporters expect a well known and very successful manager for next season, I hope they are not disappointed.