Celtic Banter Archive July 18 2014

18 Jul 2014 20:28:31
What players do we want realistically at paradise? Hooper?, barrow(osterlunds boy?), harry maguire(Sheffield ), Mackay Steven, nick Powell, Andrew Robertson. What about iniesta? Push the boat right out!
Any other players people out there?

Get rid of stokes, balde, mulgrew, even Matthews for decent cash and spend on a bit of quality.
Thoughts?

You should stay of the mushrooms mate. Iniesta is still arguably the best no 10 in the world, he is just totally exhausted carrying the Barca team for the last 3 years. Iniesta/Xavi/Messi have ruled the world for the last decade, you can see in their play that they have played too many games - Guardiola never used to rest them at all, they practically played every game, if you had taken the 3 of them out that team it would have been ordinary. Iniesta is at his peak, he would improve any team in the world, and with todays valuations is worth at least £30/£40 Million.

Iniesta could play in any team, as much as I would love to see him at Celtic.

Read Alex Ferguson's book on my hols there and he mentions the Barca midfield of recent times quite a bit. If you play 4 in midfield, Barca would play 5. Gives us a wee bit of thought to this 4-3-3 particularly when Aberdeen over-ran our midfield in the Scottish Cup game although Lennon did nothing to change it.

I want players who will improve our team, will MacKay-Steven, Robertson, Powell? Powell probably but not sure the others would and until then I just don't think we can get rid of players.

Looking forward to seeing how Ronny goes about this as I think we lack quality and depth - I also still maintain a good few of our youth players are not good enough, hope I'm wrong though.

Diouf, Choupo-Moting, Briand, Bendtner, Hangeland, Ochoa, Del Piero - all freebies I think and would bring something and well worth going after. Ultimately, how much will we spend? We can all sit here and name players that are better but I just don't know if we'll go out and get those three or four real quality signings.

Mrs E. hits it, too many players similar standard who haven't impressed, who's going to take some of them off us?

I agree with Mrs E on the youth players, the only one that I've seen over the last few years that I think could go to the top is Henderson, the rest look very very average. Hopefully Deila finds the root of the problem - why we can't produce a world class player.

I just feel that we have been overly cautious with the 2m limit recently. PL has said we are willing to spend that bit extra if we find a player who is worth the bit extra and still have the ability to sell on and he's been saying the same stuff for a few years now with no result!
Who was the last person we spent that sort of money on Scott brown?4.4m?

I'd say it was Brown yes SOS. And anybody who thinks that move hasn't worked out doesn't know what they're on about.

I think most of them look ordinary and definitely don't look better than say Stuart Armstrong at Dundee Utd. Twardzik, Chalmers, George, Irvine etc have been breaking into the 1st for the last 2 seasons and haven't made any real impact at all. I know Armstrong is a year older but he's a much more mature player and could easily captain Dundee Utd. I don't know if that's Lennon's fault or he just didn't rate these players from what he was seeing in training etc.

Honestly think Celtic need to do these young guys a favour and let them go or play them now. To be blunt and based on what I've seen, I'd let them go.

Watt's on his last legs as well. Lennon, Strachan, Billy Stark and his Manager at Lierse all can't be wrong.

Maybe I'm being too harsh, don't know?

If we don't sign a Centre Forward I reckon a fan should offer to play for free, couldn't make it any worse!

18 Jul 2014 11:15:29
Alright ed mate wondering if u seen what biton posted on twitter? if so what do u make of it? lot of fans wantin him sacked over it

{Ed007's Note - As usual it just shows how some supporters profess to support freedom of expression.... as long as it's the same opinions as theirs. It will be the same people who were singing that 'Griffiths sings what he wants' or who kicked up a fuss about the GB's poppy banner. I seen someone Tweet 'Politics shouldn't be a part of football but Biton should be sacked'. We all know there is an element of perma-offended, rent-a-cause bleeding hearts in our support.

Anthony Stokes from Eire, shows support for Irish Republicanism = hero.
Nir Biton from Israel, shows support for Israeli solders = scumbag.

Rangers were chastised for their 120 years of anti-Catholic and anti-Eire signing policy yet some supporters want to dictate that CFC shouldn't be buying Israeli players. There is a difference between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, Biton and Kayal have friends and family living through the situation first-hand, they have more right to, and are far better qualified to comment, than any of us. Were CFC supporters not allowed to worry or show support for their friends and family who fought in the Gulf War? Should they not be allowed to pray they returned safely? I remember when the Gulf War was going on, there was a local lad sent over there and every week at Mass the priest asked us to pray for his safe return, whether I agreed with the war is irrelevant, I knew his family and didn't want them to have to go through losing their son/brother/uncle. Young soldiers are only dispensable pawns in a war, especially in a country where National Service is enforced.
Look at the Club's official website where it clearly states:

'We ensure that all members of society, irrespective of race, creed or colour, are given equal chance, in line with the club’s own values. The club is open to all and we actively campaign to promote social inclusion and to end discrimination on grounds of race and religious belief.'

Let's not get distracted from the reality of the situation by singling out a young man who has done no more than ask God for his fellow countrymen's safety, we need to end the Zionist's hold over the world, the situation in Palestine is sadly, and tragically, only the tip of the iceberg. Just remember come September 18th that Britain has stood by and allowed this situation to happen. The USA will give Israel over $3 BILLION worth of weapons this year and we all know how cosy the UK likes to be with the USA. If you read up on it all it is actually quite frightening.}

18 Jul 2014 15:56:02
Can't disagree with anything u said mate a was suprised when a seen it just solely cause I would have assumed he would maybe have some sort of idea about the kind of knee jerk reaction it might have caused due to what's going between israel and palestine right now but I can see where he was coming from. If a british footballer done a post and public prayer for british troops in iraq it wouldn't be made an issue of even though the british/american army have massacred god knows how many innocent iraqi people

I agree with freedom of expression and individuals should be allowed to voice their opinions freely. I also understand that when you are in the public eye you have a higher profile. As long as what is being twittered, tweeted whistled or whatever is not illegal or immoral to the international community then so be it. Certain professions are seen as representing the organization they are employed by and as long as their employers are satisfied then, again, so be it. How would I feel if a Celtic player was supporting Satanism? Interesting.

I’m going to against the grain here and agree with Ed, its going too far now. The contradictions are way beyond a joke.

I know I can be just as vocal as the next person and i’m not perfect but this is ridiculous. I would actually question if the perma offended folk have their own friends, family and house in order.

We stay in the UK and pay into a system that has been guilty of many an illegal war and crime, we might not support it but really what have we done to stop it?

I’ve actually seen folk on forums and social media who feel they do not want to lose face (on a forum, twitter etc) so they cannot support the Club they’ve followed for years? Now I may have picked this up wrong but surely there’s something not right here?

Once you start dictating a players politics or views then you become the oppressor – no matter how unacceptable you think their view is.

Another by the way, I am no idea of the translation either but seems we have many multi linguists.

Have to say Ed I enjoyed reading your well thought out, articulate answer to GunnieBhoys question. Some of us can be well accused of selective morals. Wishing people's safety shouldn't be a crime. Leave the lad alone. Some of "our own" have done much worse.

{Ed007's Note - Thanks very much mate.}

18 Jul 2014 14:06:38
Posted this on the GB board earlier, Favourite Player: Year by Year.

I was thinking about who's been my favourite Celtic player, season to season, since I started going to the games regularly.

So here goes:

97/98: Larsson / Lambert
98/99: Larsson / Lambert
99/00: Viduka / Moravcik
00/01: Larsson / Valgaeren / Mjallby
01:02: Larsson / Lambert / Hartson / Mjallby
02/03: Larsson / Hartson / Balde / Sutton
03/04: Larsson / Sutton / Hartson
04/05: Hartson / Petrov
05/06: Hartson / Petrov
06/07: Nakamura / Boruc
07/08: Boruc / Robson / McDonald
08/09: Samaras / Boruc
09/10: Keane / Hinkel
10/11: Ledley / Hooper
11/12: Ledley / Ki
12/13: Samaras / Ledley / Lustig
13/14: van Dijk / Commons / Ledley

How would everyone else's look?

Just thinking if big Viduka would have stayed for another year under Martin O'Neill him and Larsson would have been a great partnership. I suppose in hindsight we wouldn't have got big Sutton.

Viduka was a mercenary and wanted more cash. Was happy to use Celtic to achieve his aims and fortunately wee McCann would not be blackmailed. Same can be said for Cadette and DiCannio. All great players for us but thought they were bigger than the club.

18 Jul 2014 11:22:26
While I have been ill I have been watching with interest all that is happening down Celtic Park.
My thoughts are the new manager seems to have fresh ideas which is welcome. But I hope he is strong enough to stand up to lawwell for money to buy players. our Peter will happily sit on the cheque until the window closes yet still be prpeared to sell our prize assets.
We need a replacement for Ambrose now, he is and always will be a bomb scare. he cannot defend or pass.
i hope Delia can get the best out of Boerighter, Pukki and Balde.
Also what is the deal with playing a friendly in germany this weekend? surely we should be playing these games at murrayfield to get used to the new surface?
I will try and post more in the coming days, so let us hope we have another champions league campaign to look forward to.

I think if we signed a replacement cb big efe could be a cracking defensive mid! Strong powerful land comfortable going forward just my opinion.

18 Jul 2014 14:34:49
at sos bhoy strong going forward? everytime I see him galloping forward its as if he doesn't know weather to pass it or try beat his man he's to indecisive for me gets stuck in two minds to often for me

18 Jul 2014 15:22:17
oh and great tae have u back on board tim welcome back mate

18 Jul 2014 10:57:29
The UCL 3rd Q. Round is due to start just now, the teams we could get are the winners of:

Legia (POL) 1-1 St Pats (IRE)
Cliftonville (NIR) 0-0 Debrecen (HUN)
Slovan Bratislava (SVK) 1-0 TNS (WAL)
Valletta (MLT) 0-1 Qarabag (AZE)

or Aalborg (DEN)

It's St Patrick's Athletic v Legia Warsaw, the winners of that

18 Jul 2014 14:36:17
just needty hope st pats pull it of dnt quite fancy a trip to poland thoughts??