Celtic Banter Archive January 18 2013
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18 Jan 2013 23:34:21
I live in England and put up with the arrogance daily but why does Gary hooper have to leave so he can prove it in the epl. He's proved he can do it in the champions league . Regardless if he wants to leave 5 million is a complete joke
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I'd rather get 50 goals out of him in the next year and a half and then let him go for free.
£100,000 a goal.
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18 Jan 2013 23:26:34
Hi Ed & fellow Celts,
Firstly Ed (or anyone else)can you give me any info on what happened to the boys kamenar? I thought it was a season loan ?
Secondly i'd just like to put on record to Hooper as like many folks I think he's going, he's served us well and if he thinks its time to move on then so be it as long as we get appropriately compensated, I would say 7-8 mil plus ad-ons. Take care Hoops I hope you don't live to regret it but wherever you end up will determine that. What say you Ed?
HH
pfb79 {Ed007's Note - It looks like it was decided that Kamenar wasn't any better than Zaluska. If Hooper had got his way he would have been away in the summer, I expect him to stay until this summer now.}
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18 Jan 2013 22:54:03
I'm a Celtic fan and I hope hooper gos Norwich is a great club with great facility's and a great back room staff all players say they love it and I would like hooper to move on for him to prove hisself in the EPL long as wee get 6m + which his valuation is 6.6m we can buy another striker and have made a profit. All these haters on Norwich do my head in we support a club not a player. Lets get the deal done is he wants to go or he signes a new contract and go get someone else. Problem is I can see hooper being a success at Norwich so maybe if they add a sell on clause might sweeten the deal if he stays at Celtic he will never move to a big pl club as they won't take the risk on him.
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18 Jan 2013 22:52:32
i now know why we have a lot of nameless posters. EVERY time I try to post constructive criticism or make ANY post it NEVER gets posted.
i always sign off each post with my name and can honestly say that not 1 has been posted in months now.
no longer will I even try or read anythin on their page. I will solely stick to this page.
anyhoo, rant over. looking forward to the juve game with my ticket planked in a safe place till then :)
frankiebhoy
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Am the same Frankiebhoy, I tried to get involved with their discussions a good few times over the Xmas/New Year period and not one of my posts went up, I don't even bother looking at that site now. Better patter on here anyway
Vambo
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I'm the same mate, doesny even let me reply tae comments half the time.
DaleBhoy1888
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I stopped recognising their page when their club went tits up.Not once have I looked at their page since and my life is better for it.I feel cleansed and the world looks a better place now IMO.
Jungle Bhoy.
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18 Jan 2013 22:39:56
riles me up how biased mark hateley is and why he gets to air his damn rubbishty opinions across our biggest broadsheet, said would never buy currant bun but this man makes me cringe!! as for the juventus ticket farce was this a ploy by celtic to rid more books next year?? danny
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18 Jan 2013 22:22:03
A lot of cocky Norwich fans on their page thinking Hooper's representatives where talking to Lennon today about a move to them, yet Lawwell and Lennon have both said they're still meeting to try negotiate a new deal.
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18 Jan 2013 22:21:01
Folks.......let not get our knickers in a twist over Hooper. The bottom line is, if a player wants to go he usually gets his wish. It's not up to us to decide if he goes or stays or even what the fee should be. It's our job to support our team regardless so by all means let's talk about it but please let's keep it sensible.
PS....l hope he stays but if he goes then we move on.
Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy
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18 Jan 2013 21:45:25
To the guy who said hooper is better thought of than jelavic now that made me laugh, jelavic is by far a better alround striker, hooper to me is a poacher and wi score goals where ever he goes hea got that instinct, the spl is a joke and that's why the valuation o the english is so low, and the new 12 12 18 league set up ai t going to help us any . 6-8m would be good business for hooper he's leaving celtic with little choice
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Ridiculous how you can jelavic is far better than hooper. I just can't see how you can come to that . Nonsense
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Jelavic is a better player but Hooper is a better goalscorer kind of like miller and boyd at rangers or rooney and hernandez at utd
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19 Jan 2013 13:21:54
Jellyleggs only looked half decent through rubbish spl defenders and a blind eye turned to his persistant fouling by fans of the dead club masquerading as referees.cheats then, cheats now, cheats forever.
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@3 your a nameless poster so your comment means about as much as craig burleys opinion on... well... anything?
Jelavic scored 11 in 16 when he moved to Everton and although he isn't scoring as much now he is still one of there most valuable players so don't give us your tripe.
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18 Jan 2013 21:09:28
Guys, whilst the vast majority of us welcomed Strachan appointment, the idea of assistant appointment absolutely stinks of jobs for the boys and easy cash for mate who has been a complete failure, this whole money merry go round for same people is becomming absurd. If this was in the real business world papers would be having a field day.
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Do think him being pals with gs might have helped but also think this is a good choice mm knows his stuff ye makes mistakes but the 2 off them together would bring a good bit of banter plus a hell of a lot of experience cha67
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Most no 2's are guys the manager trusts. Usually long time friends in the game, very rare for a manager not to do this...........green jhedi
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Succesfull management teams need to have good working relationships and be aiming for the same goals, if strachan is to be succesfull he needs a coaching team he can trust.
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Who would you have second in command no namer. Come on, cough up!
Bankie Bhoy
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I think your only upset that its an ex celtic manager giving an ex celtic player a job, the real business world is that the one where you get on if you have the correct school tie,,, deep river bhoy
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GJ....Yes, however we are talking about Mark McGhee here. I was REALLY happy for GS when he got the job, being an ex celt manager...however this appointment has really burst ma balloon! Mark McGhee as any type of manager is a failure. GREAT player, and I will never forget the impact he made v Hearts in the scottish cup semi in 88. But WHAT HAS HE DONE TO DESERVE THIS?? {Ed007's Note - I don't bother much with international football but he is only the assistant manager, I fail to see what the big deal is. I have never known the appointment of an assistant manager to cause so much furore. It could be worse, you could have George Formby like England.}
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Formby Ed?
JB {Ed007's Note - It was Platt's nickname when he worked with England.}
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18 Jan 2013 20:31:25
I would keep Hooper until the Summer unless we are offered at least £8 M + 30% minimum add ons.
We have approx £25 M coming in from the CL, including £3 M from the Juventus match and definately don't need the money.
When is there ever going to be a better chance to get a full set of Scottish medals. >
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18 Jan 2013 20:26:24
AS I promised earlier here are some more early memories of going to Celtic matches as a boy. (I'll say it first, yes I must have a good memory to go back that far lol)
My memories in the 60's are both bad and then not just good, but GREAT...
Round about 1961/62 I remember going with my mother to Robroyston hospital (my father had TB)
It was winter January and we had to take 3 buses to get there. On arriving I took my father's bedside radio earphones and listened to the Old Firm game we got humped 4-0 I think. With my dad seriously ill and then this result as a young boy I was depressed.
I remember getting home about 8pm that evening and witnessing my first, (but not my last) bout of sectarianism. Two of our neighbours, both men in their 40's were waiting on us returning. Bedecked in blue and white they gave me a rendering of all their vile songs. They could not wait to show their triumperlism against a 9 year old boy. Such brave men. They also knew ny dad was seriously ill, but their bigotry knew no bounds.
So when the Lisbon Lions came along, all us Celtic fans enjoyed it all the more.
Another Old Firm game about 1968 I think,
Celtic 5 -Rangers 1... oh the joy....
On the Sunday morning, my father now recovered, let me wear my new Celtic strip, (something he NEVER allowed because of the area we lived)
My 2 cousins and my 3 Tim pals all bedecked in our Celtic strips playing outside in the street.
The aforementioned neighbours and 3 other grown men came out to shout at us.They could not take seeing us in green and white laughing.
They actually went to my door to complain to my father, but he was ready for them, he told them we had to endure all their taunts over the years and now they had to get used to "Tims enjoying themselves" as he put it.
Best bit was seeing these 5 grown men look around as 4 of my father's Irish navvie pals came over, they were all built like the proverbial brickhouse, and seeing these "brave" gers men slink away still lives with me to this day.
No violence took place, just decent men standing up to the bullies who turned tail. hail hail Timalloy
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18 Jan 2013 22:40:45
I remember my first away game, my dad took me to Dens park, think it was round about 79-80 season, we got humped 5-1, still one of the freakiest results in Scottish football history, think we were top of the league at the time and Dundee were bottom, I remember Roy Aitken put us one up early doors and thinking it's going to be 4 or 5 the day, I was right but not the way I thought, I remember going back to the small village I lived in at the time dreading my paper round on monday morning. The reason I say this kind of goes along with Timalloys above post. On my paper round 9 times out of 10 i'd bump into the local postie doing his rounds, when I look back now I realise this man was a bigotted bully, I never really understood what he meant when he called me a wee pape or a fenian. Years later I seen this bloke in the pub and got speaking to him about when I was on my paper round i'd try and avoid him if Celtic lost and we had a laugh about it. Then he came out with a comment that's always stuck with me he said" I love my daughter to bits but if she ever went out with a catholic then she's no daughter of mine" As i've grown up i've learned Scotlands full of those shameful bigots who have passed it down to the next generation...........Stevie {Ed007's Note - I'm sure there are Rangers supporters with similar stories, Stevie.}
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18 Jan 2013 23:39:26
Reading back my post ed I maybe should of sent it to Esther Rancids childline, it's a bit depessing reading lol.....Stevie {Ed007's Note - If you had sent it at the time you would have been removed for your safety!}
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18 Jan 2013 20:13:44
celtic to sign robbie keane & ian harte for champions league charge, only kidding these names always come up for celtic during the transfer window lets hope we sign a good wide player that can get to the byline
rip sean fallon
darren fletcher get well soon
mcgrath 69 glenboig
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18 Jan 2013 20:09:21
does anyone know if their is a problem with the online ticket sales iv been trying and it says theirs still tickets available surly this must be a mistake ... where is all the season ticket holders mates now ?? surly they would have snapped them up and show their loyalty to the club and are not just some fly by night glory hunters that's preventing some genuine fans getting to the match or maybe their not much value on ebay ... cartoon heed ... and remember never fart in an apple store they don't have windows
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18 Jan 2013 18:45:51
Awright Ed - what are the chances of
Norwich coming back in with an improved
Offer this month? Also what is the clubs valuation
Of Hooper? Ian L {Ed007's Note - I would say slim Ian.}
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18 Jan 2013 16:32:03
RIP Sean Fallon, passed away earlier today. A true Celtic man.
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I spoke to sean one day outside celtic park . '' i'm shaking hands with a legend '' I says . ''so am I son, we all are '' ..shammy
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Lovely Shammy. Sums the man up perfectly............green jhedi
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Nice memory for you Shammy. Sean was indeed a real gentleman and a Celtic legend. Julieghirl
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18 Jan 2013 15:52:32
cant believe people are actually clickin the disagree button for posts about sean fallon narrow minded persons whoever they are show a bit of respect fs
gunniebhoy {Ed007's Note - Ignore them mate, you always get it on posts like that.}
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Just rabbits escaped from their hutch, running round in the big world.
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18 Jan 2013 15:41:38
spicebhoy, stevieo, tambhoy, wee spat yesterday, just speaking through disapoinment, enjoy the game bhoys . we are all celtic fans . i'm looking on the bright side now . I get to watch with a case of magners and a bottle of smirnoff, and I get slow motion replays . cheers guys.. shammy
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Lets hope you get plenty goals to slo mo Shammy!.............green jhedi
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Heres hoping jhedi .. shammy
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Keep the faith shammy we are all in it together. Mon the HOOPs
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18 Jan 2013 15:40:49
is there any truth in the celtic season ticket holder who has had his tickets taken off him and is under investigation by the club for selling online
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The ticket office have cancelled a ticket that was for sale on gumtree. It was for section 138, the clown even put the row and seat number on the advert......Stevie
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Complete scumbag doing this to his fellow hoops supporters.
Tambhoy
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He should be banned and bought a Rangers season ticket as punishment.
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18 Jan 2013 15:38:50
More strachanisims...A Reporter trying too get a quick interview.. Ave got more important things to do.like finish a youghart.....Reporter...is beattie good enugh for england?...wiit you askin me for am scottish....Reporter...welcome to southampton do you think you can turn em around?....Naw they shoulda went for George Graham, am useless....Reporter..Gordon what areas where middlesbrough better?..Erm mainly that big green thing oot there...Talking about wayne rooney aged17...He is more likely to get a call from michael jackson than sven g eriksson.....Talking about being attacked by celtic fan..one highlites of ma career! the fella who beat me up was fined £100..They had a wip round in pub for him& he got£200!..stevo
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18 Jan 2013 15:29:19
Awryt Ed mate, you no think it's a bit cheeky they offered the same amount for Hooper as they did with Danny Graham? Hooper is different class compared to him. Also What you think about cashing in on hooper and try bringing in that Emmanuel Emenike from Spartak? No any Idea of his value and wages but? Think he's a fantastic Striker. DaleBhoy1888 {Ed007's Note - Eminike has said that Man City are trying to sign him, how true that is I have no idea. Norwich are chancing their arm with Hooper, they would need to up their offer and I don't think they can afford to.
I still have my doubts there is any seriousness in their interest, they knew that bid would be rejected and it looks to their fans as if they are trying to bring in players.}
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A la oldco bid for holt last January.
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18 Jan 2013 14:45:00
Been watching futsal since rogic signed, know not long but think its an excellent game to teach our youngsters, the low bounce ball stops them puntin it the fast pace gets them all good at passing and control and less players make every1 including defenders and goalies confident going past people shooting and passing only a thought but in years 2 come mayb we could produce the new messi thru this ! Wot you guys think ? Cha67
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I coach an under 11s team in Livingston, it's all about development and enjoyment for the kids. We use footsal balls as they are same size as the 4s that are used at that age group, like you said totally different bounce to them, slightly harder and heavier which does/should help with control and passing. The club doesn't enforce it but the individual teams that run from the club can do whatever within reason. We only use them 1 session from 4 and I wouldn't introduce them too early for the boys that have just stepped up from soccer 4s but they are good.
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Sounds like a good thing that its not every session as after all you get some cracking players who, ll play that constantly but can't translate it onto an 11s pitch, bit like the freestyle guys but everything in moderation cha67
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18 Jan 2013 13:26:08
That person Hateley at it again "Rangers owe Scotland nothing". what an opening gambit. the man's insane. If it wasn't for this country's leaders buckling and lettign them in they wouldn't even be playing. FFS.
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I seen that load of nonsense.He also claims nobody helped them! That would be apart from the granting of a "special licence" to enable them to actually start the season.Then there was the fact that they should have had to re-apply to enter the league system, clubs with audited accounts were by passed to facilitate this.The transfer embargo was also altered to make sure that they, a club owing football debts, could bolster their squad! His analogy of the school bully was particularly stupid.rangers WERE the school bully! Running up debts to smaller kids with no intention of paying the debt back! Shame;Now, then, Forever............green jhedi
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Brilliant and so correct, scottish football the laughing stock of european football cause our wee SFA HAVE NO BACKBONE ... SHAME ON THEM !!
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Ffs. we have had hateful, gough, laudrup, gascoigne, goram, mccoist, smith, johnston, all using their paper columns, trying to coerce their way to the top level debt free . they have even got murdo mcleoud believing it, but he's a currant anyway . they can all f*** off .. no way . 2016 earliest.. shammy
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18 Jan 2013 10:52:36
Very sad news of another celtic great passing away . RIP Sean Fallon
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Fallon bled green and white and will be truly missed. With Sean and Big Jock back together, heaven will be playing the Celtic way.
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18 Jan 2013 10:34:13
Id like to see celtic get rid of rogne, mccourt, zaluska, miku, lassad and stokes, I really don't think the team would suffer much and would free up some wages. On another note I've always been a louis saha fan and I believe sunderland are letting him go, I know he is 34 now but a short term deal would be fantastic for both parties, he is vastly experienced and i'm sure a club like celtic could get some good performances again out of the frenchman and I highly doubt he would be daunted playing in the spl.
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Too old would be my initial shout but it seems he is happy to accept a pay/play deal.His scoring record seems to diminish with every club he goes to though, so I don't think so........green jhedi
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Saha - No. when was the last period of success that guy had? Fleeting appearances with odd good game. Had enough of has beens joining up in Jan over the years, no more please.
Why not mention Robbie Keane while you're at it for a short term loan lol!
Get rid of a few of the guys mentioned but Zaluska? Guy's a decent keeper and good understudy. Who do we use as a No 2 in case anything happens to FF?
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Don't sell McCourt, Paddy McCourt, I just don't think you'll understand, If you sell McCourt, Paddy McCourt, Yer gonny have a riot on your hands.
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I'll take my chances in a riot, please sell McCourt. Nothing against the guy but its time to let him go
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Dont agree, Lassad and Stokes have plenty to offer .
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18 Jan 2013 10:33:28
Very saddened to hear the news that club legend Sean Fallon has passed away. R.I.P Sean.....Stevie
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18 Jan 2013 09:44:54
R.i.p Sean Fallon, a true Celtic legend, God bless x
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18 Jan 2013 09:28:39
RIP Sean Fallon
Passed away peacefully today with his family around him.
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18 Jan 2013 09:23:42
Nick Rodger in the Herald today is reflecting my thoughts on Rogic having come from a futsal background and the excitement it is giving me from when I first found out he played that format of the game. Having watched futsal quite a bit I was staggered at the pace in which players are able to control the ball and pass it on with such accuracy. The technique and vision of some of these guys is incredible. I'd recommend watching it its usually on Eurosport. Also wondered why so many of these such gifted players weren't making more money playing 11-a-side professionally. Then I discovered, as Nick points out, that Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi and such like all played it as youngsters. I'm not going to count any chickens but if Rogic turns out to be as good as i'm thinking and hoping, John Park wants to get himself down to Futsal games more often.
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18 Jan 2013 09:21:39
Tragic news hearin sean fallon has passed away a true celtic legend thoughts and prayers with the fallon family RIP YNWA
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18 Jan 2013 07:30:17
Just had a flash back too the first Celtic supporters bus I was on. Probably '81 or '82. It came from Larkhall and picked us up down the bottom of Hamilton where the fair used to be. Standing room only double decker for big games and if my memory serves me right 10 bob for the pleasure. 50 pence in real money fu#k me i'm getting old, happy days all the same. Kians Da.
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18 Jan 2013 11:35:53
A double decker Celtic supporters bus that came from Larkhall!!! Sure it wasn't a Fiat Panda that picked you up KD.......Stevie
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There would have been spare seats in the panda too!............green jhedi {Ed007's Note - I remember the Larkhall bus well. I used to get it from Hamilton as well. I went to school with 2 brothers from Larkhall, they must have been the most well known Hoops fans in Larkhall and to top it off their dad was a copper. They younger brother still bounces about Larkhall in full CFC gear and a tri-colour over his shoulders on matchdays!}
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I would have thought paul mcstay would have been the most well known celtic fan from larkhall {Ed007's Note - He got out of Dodge pretty quickly though.}
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Just as well there dad was a copper ED! Although a Tim copper in larkhall is as rare as an unbiased ref in a Celtic game.......green jhedi
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18 Jan 2013 13:56:43
ED007, Green Jhedi I was thinking of posting about something similar. My uncle used to take me to Celtic games as my father had poor health. In those days I lived in Kinning Park (like Larkhall "enemy territory") We first got the supporters bus in Admiral Street, bus attached to the Wallace Bar (only tim pub on Paisley Road west up to Ibrox)
But my uncle was in first throes of alcoholism and we frequently missed bus.As he stayed for one last drink. We then dashed for Paisley road Toll to get the old Trolley bus to Bridgeton.
Sometimes if we were lucky, a Celtic bus would pass by, yes a double decker with the open entrance, they never stopped, just slowed down and me and my uncle had to run and jump on.
These buses were always packed but very friendly and as a young boy, I found it fascinating, listening to all the songs on the way to the ground. Yes and all the "not PC" songs were belted out.
I will post more memories later, if ED007 allows. Timalloy
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Lot of us tim's in Hamilton bhoy's
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18 Jan 2013 10:56:31
I really have a bad feeling about the juventus ties, not because of how good they are on the field, you can pick holes all day in their team, but they have got to be the most corrupt football team ever. I hope celtic don't get shafted by a dodgy official via a red card or penalty.
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Oooooooft the cries of conspiracy are starting a bit early are they not? you haven't even kicked a ball yet ;-D
P.S. Juventus have a quality team.
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Ask dufc about italians bribing refs ya tube. it is 100% certain some sort of approach will have been attempted. anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. this is pure business to italians (anyone who puts bear after their name is a fool by default). probably what platini meant. some refs take the money some dont.
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@2 Anyone who does not sign off at the end of there comments is a fool by default, my post was merely a bit of light hearted banter and you have reactead like a dictator (minus tha tator) My point is that so many of you (Not all) but most already have your finger on the trigger ready to cry cheats should a questionable decision go in favour of Juventus and are unwilling to just say "The ref made a mistake" and want to blame it on a conspiracy. Its a sad way to look at things And I know someone will reply mentioning the Dundee Utd pen fiasco (which I admit I was shocking) but you can't just assume that every questionable decision against you is due to a bribed ref or some other agenda.
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18 Jan 2013 01:41:33
Why would the current bun run a story about temple ton at new Rangers getting picked by Strachan for a Scotland cap? Utter nonsense fourth tier player getting into national team would be such an obvious wrong decision. The lad needs to get himself into a top tier team to demonstrate competence at the top level for selection for national team.
Only Jabba could be behind such nonsense but shame on newspapers for covering even the most nonsense stories being put out by Rangers instead of ignoring them.
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He wasn't good enough or consistent enough to get a cap at Hearts. So because he has scored a few goals against queens park and Berwick now he's international class. What a pile of sh*te!! There's only one player at Rangers who comes even close to getting a shout and that's Lee Wallace, because he has played at international level and made a decent account of himself. I would have him in the squad as the second choice left back if I'm honest. None of the rest are even close to getting a shout. Ian Black getting the token gesture cap to appease the Rangers fans was embarrassing and showed levein up for what he is. Can't imagine what Lee Wallace must have been thinking when he heard Black was picked but not him. Especially as he has showed no sort of form at all since he moved to Rangers and even the zombies give him pelters week in week out because he's so bad.
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Couldnt get a cap playin spl football with hearts so wot makes them think he's good enough 2 get 1 now playin against teams like berwick and elgin people need 2 lay off that acid its the exact same situation with ian black few months ago the guys is and never will be international class nothin bt a thug
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I think strachan will soon tire of jabbas planted stories, as everyone will. don't worry jabba and green is a marriage made in hell and will blow apart like an egg in a microwave oven.
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