Celtic Banter Archive November 17 2011

17 Nov 2011 22:28:20
ED007, Mrs E goodnight going to sign off for tonight.
I got a ticking off from bears on their site because of way I spelled Hamden, I of course apologised and said it was because I was so used to taking the "P" on their site LOL Timalloy (king of the come backs) {Ed007's Note - Night mate, take care.}

Night, night ! Mind set your alarm & get Mrs T's breakfast on :~)

Oh..just seen Anthony Stokes on Sky talking about Republic Of Ireland. - Mrs E {Ed007's Note - So you sit and watch SKY while ordering your poor hubby around, let him on the PC for a moan on the MMT site and see how the poor guy feels :-)

Aye..that'll be right! He knows how to work Sky, that's enough stress for him. Had to watch the darts tonight - Mrs E {Ed007's Note - Not a darts fan either but Moneypenny is. Her, her sis and her man and their son and g/f went to it in Glasgow last year, she can't go anywhere without causing bother :-)

Is it just me or is it getting bigger every year in the UK ? Can imagine it actually might be a good night out...was Moneypenny shouting out her support ?

Mr bluenose loves it as well...he's getting my son into it, he wants a dartboard for Christmas, not good. - Mrs E {Ed007's Note - It's massive now, thanks to SKY. The night in Glasgow ended in chaos with people throwing lager at the players! I got Moneypenny a dartboard a few years ago for Christmas, with the cupboard thing bit, I got it put up in the office/computer room so she can stand and play while I'm busy writing/editing.}

Only in Glasgow ha... we seem to be good at darts ! Typical, any sport that doesn't involve running about and we're world champs.

Just seen Kenny Dagleish talking about the Luis Suarez debacle & he said to the reporter (after he asked the same question twice) 'do you have wax in you ears' - you can take the man out of Glasgow eh ?! - Mrs E {Ed007's Note - LOL that's a good one.}

I heard what Kenny said, I thought it was pretty shocking actually. If he did abuse this guy as bad as what is being quoted on the papers. {Ed007's Note - Please don't get into this on here, I have enough of it on the Utd page, I will cry you know. The fact is that Suarez hasn't been found guilty of anything yet. There is even controversy over the words used and there Spanish meaning and Uruguayan usage. I am not condoning racism or sticking up for Suarez, if he is found guilty he will be, and rightly so, punished. I have had Man Utd fans wanting him deported!!!! JT and that headcase Blatter should be under this scrutiny until the outcome of Suarez's hearing.}

I wasn't condoning it either...Kenny Dalglish had stated he didn't want to comment on the matter & the reporter persisted with asking, that was all. - Mrs E

17 Nov 2011 21:53:33
What do you give a man who has everything?
PENICILLIN
Why are Hurricanes always named after women?
Because they are Wet and Wild when they arrive and take your House and Car when they leave..
Q. Woman to her friend, has your husband been circumcised?
A. No, he is a complete D..k
LOL Timalloy

What do you give a man who has everything ?

A woman to show him how to work it...

17 Nov 2011 19:44:39
Breaking news on San Forrest to be sold to spurs for 2.5 mill and be replaced by murphy

Celtic will sign murphy in jan heard it from my mate Jamie himself

{Ed007's Note - I thought I would put both your 'rumours' together to save space and show how stupid you look. Is San Forrest anywhere near San Francisco?}

Not true. I know one of Jamie's close relatives and he keeps me posted on any speculation.

It'll take more than Jamie Murphy to replace James Forrest (if that's who you mean) - Mrs E

Yeah true wot a crap post Murphy, Murphy who??

I think celtic would want more than 2.5 mil for forrest
davie c

17 Nov 2011 19:02:38
wats all the fuss about the irish
anthem being sung at parkhead
thousands of irish fans pay good
money to go scotland every week me included
if i wana sing it i will,wats next ban
ordinary fans from having a national
identity to please the powers that be
i personally find rule britania more
offensive but they prob tryna ban
having an opinion now to,get a life


hail hail
maciej88 {Ed007's Note - You have read the post wrong I think. Nobody said there was any talk of banning it. Rule Britannia is not a national anthem either. And one more question exactly where in Ireland are you from? Your IP number/location is certainly not anywhere in Ireland, the east coast of Scotland is in a totally different country, look at a map and you will see. I smell 5hite!!!!}

To be fair he could easily be an Irishman living in Scotland though. Havent seen this debate but nothing wrong with anyone who wishes signing either The soldiers song or Rule Britannia. I think people are getting carried away now {Ed007's Note - He said he paid good money to travel to Scotland every weekend. I have no idea where the talk od banning The Soldier's Song came from, me and BIM were discussing national anthems in general earlier and if he saw it on another forum why not have his say on there rather than come on here where nobody had a clue what he was on about? Or even post a link to let others see this alleged talk of banning the song.}

Lmao Ed, I'm in Disney World just now you can check my IP address to confirm it. Aye but the Disney World I'm in is my wee girls room lol.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Disney World???? Don't get me started on them. If you have a spare few days (lol) have a read at this:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/disney1.htm

Ive already replied to the ed but obviously he didnt wana post it for sum reason im irish from belfast not once did i say rule britania was an anthem just that i find it offensive i was discussing on facebook with other tims who told me about a possible ban as for cum on here an people havnt a clue wat im on about im sure alot of fans visit many sites an use facebook an for ur info i do pay good money every week to go watch my beloved celts an ur comment about the east coast of scotland and a map excuse the pun but im lost dnt understand u an would like to know why my reply wasnt posted was it because i put u straight on a few things like were in ireland im from?

maciej88 {Ed007's Note - Your post wasn't posted because you are talking garbage and have came on trying to stir trouble. We see your IP address and our technology allows it to be traced to it's exact location. Therefore I don't believe a word that you type.This conversation is over.}

Hey Followfollow81, Mrs T is a great Disney fan also, she keeps telling me "that disnae go there" LOL Timalloy
PS hope wee ff81 had a good birthday, heard he asked for a Celtic season ticket for christmas to see the best team in the country LOL

Yes Timalloy he had a good Birthday.Took him to monkey bizz over at xscape. Then played with hs scalextric and all the time he was wearing sh*ggers goalie top lol. Rangers don't ground share with Celtic at Celtic park if you know what I mean lol.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Do you still get Scalextric? I loved that when I was a pup. I was born in May and for my first Christmas my dad bought me Scalextric and a train set, my mammy wasn't too impressed with what I have been told, I was only 7 months old!!}

Yes Ed the old toys are the best lol. For my youngest sons first Christmas I got him a remote control monster truck. He was only just over a month old lol. He grew into it lol. Night everyone
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - I will need to get a Scaletrix, that's Moneypenny's Christmas sorted. Night mate, take care.}

17 Nov 2011 18:04:20
awrite ED just read evenin times as i read and already no that the german league has bigger teams than in scotland yet they charge btween 10-20 quid for the games the cheapest in europe so im wonderin if it would be better for scottish leagues to do the same for instance celtic-rangers games sold out 40+guide if im rite yet if they play like the rest its only about 50,000 odd people and if they put the prices down to about the german prices we would get fullhouses probably every game and i would probably go with my daughter so witz ure thought on that ED stef1967. {Ed007's Note - The price of matches in Scotland definitely doesn't give value for money, especially the way smaller teams put prices up when CFC or Rangers visit. The Bundesliga have a fantastic TV deal, have a read at this, the wording is a bit sketchy word wise but gives figures per team for TV money accumulated:

www.000xy.com/2778.html

Just read it ED and how would it work here if they done that,stef1967 {Ed007's Note - They charge so little because of the money they get from TV. If we put down ticket prices it would have an effect on the club's income, there is no guarantee that teams like St.Mirren or Motherwell would sell more tickets if they were cheaper, I doubt clubs would be willing to take the risk. CFC and Rangers also have so many season tickets that even if you miss a game, you have still paid for it. It is the poor TV revenue that is hurting our game in comparison with others, the price we must pay for jumping into bed with Setanta I'm afraid. Attendances are falling because of the quality of football, but maybe it could be worth a try if a club wishes to experiment with it.}

Not an equal share then..
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Is there in any league? Spanish fans feel the worst aggrieved about Barca and Real getting the bulk of TV money, they even had a banner at a game saying ' WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER SPL' or something along those lines.}

My mate supports schalke & his brother (who stays in germany) pays 550 euros for a season ticket so about £500, that gets him tram fare to & from the home ground & all the games.right enough he goes over every 2 months or so because its better. BVB (borussia dortmund) sell there ground out every week 88,000 (i think) as do most other german teams hence why he goes when he can.

On borussia dortmand quicky, they got a new manager a few years back.said to the fans look they will be no big signings,we wont win alot/if anything but i'll spend the money in the youth system & bring through our own stars.now they have a really good team chasing the bayern & the likes.

i would love if celtic done this but dont think anyone would expect it,losing,not winning things (haha before anyone says it aye the last 3 years we no) lol.

ps your right ed about satanta, big deal we coulnt turn down, jobbies hit the fan.sky/espn are the only ones with an offer ? made our bed now were stuck in it.

hope the above makes sence,im half sleepinghope all is good folks.
come on you bhoys in green

lenny {Ed007's Note - I have been over to a few St Pauli games over the years, that is quite an eye opener. I think that Bayern Munich's new stadium looks amazing but their fans are complaining about lack of atmosphere in it. The youth system in Scotland is shocking as we have all talked about before, but England aren't that better off when you look at some of their teams/squads and struggling national team.}

I heard that the germans can charge so little is because of the grounds being sponsored think they had a tv deal collapse along the same way we did with setanta. They were fecked and had to come up with money so they sold their stadium names to large companies. {Ed007's Note - Their deal did collapse in 2008, but the new they deal is worth 1.65 Billion Euros over 4 seasons as the above link shows the revenue they are getting Bayern Munich also get and here is another couple of links about it:

www.bayernforum.com/miscellaneous-f6/new-bundesliga-tv-deal-agreed-t2942.html

bleacherreport.com/articles/400079-how-can-bayern-munich-pay-franck-ribery-so-much

17 Nov 2011 16:43:33
Hi ed. I was wondering would mr smith have heard Green Brigade sing the solider song which is Irelands and my national anthem. It alright to sing it in Irish because nobody knows what your singing but when it is sung in English I could see where someone could mistaken it as a I.r.a song.. Bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - That's the point I made the other day BIM, Flower of Scotland is technically offensive to English people, the original God Save the Queen is technically offensive to Scots, where do UEFA draw the line? The Irish national anthem has no mention of any paramilitary organisation in it, so I don't see why anyone can take offence to it, in the same way as how anyone could with FOS or GSTQ. I am no expert, but I would assume most countries national anthems celebrate the countries heritage and mention wars, battles or struggles throughout their history. So technically they are offensive to some but they are also celebrations of the countries heritage and culture. I hope I've worded that the way I meant it.}

You worded it perfectly ed bond anything can be misinterpreted if the listening choose it to be so and yes most if not all national anthems in my opinion do talk of war and the wins/ losses by the countries and rightly so without such their identities would be what? shaun h {Ed007's Note - Thanks Shaun.}

Ed , the thing is in this "sad demented" country of ours , it is considered the norm to sing GSTQ or Rule Britannia , but ANY reference to anything Irish or should i say Irish catholic is regarded as bigotry , we are in Scotland in 2011 , a nation with many identities and diasporas , but alas containing far to many small minded , shallow individuals who want to live in the dark ages , everyone is equal and has a part to play , but these eejits fear change and cant see the embarassment they are causing the country . {Ed007's Note - I wou

17 Nov 2011 13:50:42
Just heard from a mate in Glasgow that Celtic will assist the police to identfy the morons who sing IRA songs. If this is true, all I can say is Hail Hail.
Hopefully if these morons are charged and then banned from Celtic, then we can return to being a club that is known for its positive attitude rather than its supposed link to these organisations.
John Mc Ginley overseas

Celtic supports group have said they won't meet with police. The daftest thing they could of done.

Gazza 72 {Ed007's Note - Really?? I was reading this there:

www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/17/celtic-sectarian-chants-scottish-football?newsfeed=true

There was a link on twitter i think it was stv saying that they wont. cant post the link sorry am on my phone
gazza72 {Ed007's Note -

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2011/11/17/celtic-fans-green-brigade-snub-strathclyde-police-plea-for-talks-over-ira-chants-86908-23567732/

Here is NL's message to fans regarding the matter.

www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=1760

If the Green Brigade wont meet the police and Celtic to discuss the way ahead , then disband them and withdraw their season tickets , we dont need this s**t dragging our club down .

17 Nov 2011 10:56:16
Ed,
I was reading your posts on this sectarianism thing. And of course we're embroiled in the Suarez / Evra thing down here.
You lot will likely get pinged by UEFA, Luis will probably also by the F.A. (on one or another of the charges - I've just put a post on the LFC page that cites the F.A. Handbook).
But, as you and some of the Celts were saying, there's miles worse things go on in Europe. Including the top leagues (Italy especially) and at the top clubs (Real & Barca).
They seem to get off very lightly. Small fines and the like. If your face fits eh ?
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Seems like it KB mate. Without slagging LFC, they are not one of the superpower clubs any more and don't carry as much clout in the corridors of power as the 'bigger' clubs do. The Suarez incident seems more important to people, the media and the authorities than the JT one. Surely it has nothing to do with him being a Chelsea/England player does it?? Chelsea fans being accused of racism against one of their own players also seems to be a 'bit part' story in all of this. If Suarez is found guilty he deserves what ever punishment he gets, but until then, he hasn't been found guilty of anything and people should try to stop jumping to conclusions over it all. I deleted posts on Utd that wanted him jailed, even deported for what he is accused of. Racism, like sectarianism are wrong, they have no place at football, on or off the field, or even in society for that matter. Up here one of the excuses is that it is not sectarianism but 'political', so can the Chelsea fans that booed their own player not say 'I'm a member of the BNP, it is my political view I was expressing', I don't think that would wash or go down to well as an excuse, do you?}

Agreed, They're both wrong, and legislated against by Govt.
The Suarez thing though - if you look at the F.A Handbook, check E 3 (1) and (2). They seem to be the respective charges brought against him, going off the press coverage.
There is, in fact, a separate rule relating directly to discrimination (E 4). It seems Suarez has not been charged with this.
So, at this time, it is my view that they'll get him on the cover-all charges, which come under the heading of Conduct. A different thing than 'racism' per se.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - You might have a point there mate. Who the hell writes these rule books anyway lol, they must sit with a thesaurus and use 10 words when one would do!}

Anyway the Press will jump on it / him. No doubt some M.P. or other will stick their oar in as well. Hey ho.
This Green Brigade thing ed, are they all young lads ?
I'm not condoning it but I remember being at O.T. in the 80's, on the terrace below their fans seated above in the Scoreboard End. It was a nasty atmosphere, and certain songs were sung which, I admit, in the heat, I took part in.
The impetuosity of youth and that.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - A lot of them do seem to be getting younger every season. Every one done things at football that although they were wrong, were accepted in those days, but times have changed and most older people have left it behind. I have no problem admitting I have sang songs and shouted things over the years that I wouldn't now, as you say when you are young it is easy to get caught up in it all and the fly 'carry out' on the way to games etc doesn't help when mixed with youthful exuberance. But when your club, manager and the majority of fans have asked you to stop, then why persist? As I keep saying, take pride in your club, don't do anything to tarnish it's name. If you love your club as much as you profess to, then why take part in something that you know is going to darken the name of the club, and could lead to fines and possible bans? It is your club and your fellow supporters you are hurting and embarrassing.}

Completely agree.
Mind you, I'd still get done on a F.A. Improper Conduct charge when shouting at the match !
Lol.
As would 95% of the crowd. Including you, the banter king, probably.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Probably :-)

17 Nov 2011 01:27:16
So it seems we aren't the first club to be reported to the SFA/SPL over sectarian and offensive chanting.When will we find out what happened regarding this incident at Tannadice.April was a long time ago................................. www.scotzine.com/2011/04/arabtrust-report-rangers-fans-for-sectarian-chanting/
{Ed007's Note - I have no idea, it is not a site I pay much attention or give much credibility to personally. I see your point but this is not a tit for tat scenario, there is a problem on both sides and we need to sort ours out instead of the 'but they done this' attitude.}

Well said ED, I've said on numerous occasions both clubs have a problem but I must admit I have seen an improvement at Rangers games but you still get the odd idiot. I cant speak for Celtic as I dont go to they games.

Billyboy1 {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate.}