Celtic Banter Archive December 17 2013

17 Dec 2013 19:14:25
How many of the people arrested for the carry on at Motherwell are members of the GB? Everyone was so quick to judge and jump on the bandwagon. Maybe its time some of you so called supporters listened to your fellow fans rather than read what the rags spew out day after day. No self respcting Hoops fan should be buying these rags, you'll find the truth out on sites like this not in daily rags.

Very true mate I stopped buying papers after the sevco fiasco and the way they all lied for them. I find out all the news from places on the internet I trust. What I like about this site is that it doesn't allow threads to end up full of sectarian namecalling and stuff so you can get a good healthy debate going on. Keep up the good work ed

{Ed007's Note - Thanks mam.}

What truth? The ones you want to believe? You have a point but the gb also said that they were at fault for some things, are we not to believe that either? You don't get it, people like what they do in stadium and some agree with thier views but! The views don't belong in the stadium, they have lied and have made the club pay for thier own ego a lot now. They use the club for thier own means now and were warned, they my not all be gb at fir park but people follow them and hire antics and enough is enough. They are not bigger then the club and I'm sure if they follow the rules and work with the cwipersonersrand stick to football, like they are known for, they will be welcomed back

{Ed007's Note - I think you have missed the point. Out of the people arrested for what happened at Fir Park, none of them were members of the GB who were getting unfairly blamed for it all since it happened.}

Ed, how does anyone know they're not GB. Them saying they're not GB and GB saying they're not our guys just doesn't wash!

{Ed007's Note - I'd imagine that their ST's wouldn't be in Section 111. Whether it washes with you is immaterial, there's no proof that the people arrested are members of the GB. It seems the only people still saying it are the people that are disappointed the GB weren't involved.}

Is cwipersonsrand our new signing? Maybe welsh or something? Rhys Cwipersonersrand.
;-)
Time for the full stadium to be united in our support for Celtic as they play.
ParadiseAndy

{Ed007's Note - The swearing filter has blocked that word and I can't for the life of me think what it is lol.}

17 Dec 2013 23:08:16
Doesn't really matter weather they were GB or not, it's all the other sh*t they've been doing that's the problem. Celtic Fan not kid on Ultras fan

{Ed007's Note - It does matter though MB. The arrests were made in connection with what went on at Fir Park, none of those arrested were members of the GB. Nobody is talking about anything else, sh*t or otherwise.
I'd bet it would matter to you if you were one of the innocent people suspended from CP with no evidence against you and you would be on here looking for support.
There was circa 60 seats broken, 128 ST suspended PLUS 250 ST holders from the GB offered to relocate or take a refund and yet so far, after eleven days, there has been five arrests, even though the club has a full record of every member of the GB.
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?}

18 Dec 2013 07:40:36
Momentous response is disappointing but expected from one of those that's attitude is blame and kick out the GB regardless. Disgraceful

There was allegedly 5 arrests made a week ago, normally fans arrested are named + shamed asap. No one from the GB is aware of anyone in the group, or affiliated to the group who has been arrested. Has there even been any arrests, or is this more lies? Find it odd why there hasn't been any further info released in terms of names, ages + locations.

HamiltonBhoy

What the f is cwipersonersrand? I'm the op and I didn't swear in it Ed. It's was to say if they work with the club and stick to football, is "club and" a swear woes? Lol

{Ed007's Note - I've not got a clue why it has done it either lol}

18 Dec 2013 06:50:04
You miss understand me edd a feel for the wrongly arrested or wrongly had there ST took off them obviously something should be done about that. A on the other hand have no sympathy for the GB because they should have been booted out the first time they done what they said they wouldn't (banners) they wer told not to do it they done it and Celtic pay the price. Am not saying a don't agree with what there saying just not a celtic games anymore.

{Ed007's Note - I've said all along that the GB are fully aware of the rules and if they break them they would need to face the consequences. Things like the 'F**K UEFA' banner was just plain stupid and asking for trouble. Although in my opinion if PL and the board had any minerals about them they would have appealed the fine over the banner at the AC Milan game and fought it all the way.
Now UEFA have set the precedent I wonder if they will crack down on openly racist fans, the neo-Nazi fans, openly anti-Semitic fans, Barca's political messages and surely the annual Nuremberg like jamboree at Ibrox is a political statement.
I'm still trying to get my head round why there was minutes silence/applause over the death of Nelson Mandela never mind the political connotations involved in it.}

The fact is the gb keep dragging the club through the mud getting fines for all there tosh about politics and flares and crap so why wouldn't anyone blame you don't cry the innocent victim in all of this you took responsibility for some of the crap at fir park so now 5 are non gb you take the moral high ground know what I am glad they are disbanded 250 people don't make an atmosphere

Ayrbhoy

{Ed007's Note - Well it just goes to show why people shouldn't jump to conclusions. It's nothing to do with politics, banners or anything that has happened at our ground or any other, it is to do with the match at Fir Park. Yet because it has yet to be proven that any GB members were involved let's play a game of whataboutery?}

The GB aren't disbanded, and have no intentions of doing so AyrBhoy. The group will still be together when Liewell + co are retired with Celtic STH's money to live off of.

HamiltonBhoy

17 Dec 2013 14:25:32
Celtic could face Ajax for the third time this season after being announced as participants in a Turkish tournament in January.

The pair, who met in the UEFA Champions League group stage, have been named with Galatasaray and Trabzonspor in the Antalya Cup.

Celtic have been paired with Trabzonspor, with their match taking place on January 9.

Ajax will take on Galatasaray the next day, with the two losing sides facing on January 11 in a third-place play-off.

The final will be held on Sunday, January 12. All matches will be held at the Akdeniz Universitesi-Stadion in Antalya.

Neil Lennon's men have already postponed their Premiership match with Kilmarnock on January 11.

The SPFL allowed clubs to apply for up to two weekends off in January to take a voluntary winter break.

{Ed007's Note - If ever there was a recipe for serious trouble this could be it, the only thing missing is an Italian team and their knife-wielding racist fans. The club should be discouraging fans to travel to the tournament.}

Good away European game experience for some of our bhoys.

There's a league and Cup to be won and after the CL brass neck they should get their priorities right. Pointless games are for pre-season warm up and what if we pick up an injury or two?
Just my opinion.

JJ

I would think we are making good money out of this, right Ed? Plus a vacation for the bhoys and some game time

{Ed007's Note - I have no idea how much money the club is making, the whole point of being allowed to cancel a match was to rest players not drag them to a meaningless tournament, risking injures and fatigue later in the season.
We need to win the Scottish Cup this year, it's a must in my opinion, so we would be better served using the time to rest players for the finale to the season and hopefully a league and SC double and let's not forget some of our player's will be off to the World Cup at the end of the season.
This is definitely a money based decision with the footballing side of things taking a back seat again.

Typical decision from our money fuelled board to cancel a league game to earn a few pounds in Turkey . No thoughts whatsoever for the fans who were planning trips for the Kilmarnock game . No mention of a tournament only a statement from NL that the players could do with a wee break . That's 2 away games now been cancelled from weekends and moved to midweek when people find it harder to travel . More and more it is looking like this board just take our great support for granted and really couldn't give a flying f*** what we think . DH

After all the carry on in Amsterdam and the trouble the Ajax fans caused its a disgrace celtic have agreed to enter a stupid meaningless tournament with Ajax it really is shocking the boards disregard for fans all they seem interested is pound signs .

DH Celtic were meant to be at home to Kilmarnock on the 11th, which makes it even worse when you count the number of fans who travel from all over the UK and Ireland for home weekend games. Season ticket holders last to be thought about again.

Sorry Marky wasn't paying attention . It makes the decision to cancel the game even more maddening as it's a home game . I hate midweek games at the best of times because of working all day then having to rush about to make kick off and I actually stay in the east end of Glasgow . Fans who sit around me travel from Aberdeen, Dumfries and Arbroath so a Saturday is their day out as some bring some kids . Celtic park is starting to look more and more sparse every week so I can imagine what it will be like midweek against Killie . Totally disillusioned with the path our board is heading down because of their treatment of fans . What they forget is we can do without them . They can never do without us . DH

Personally, I'm disgusted we're taking part in a tournament involving THEM. As Ed knows, I know 3 of the 5 Dam Bhoys who have been found guilty personally, none of them are troublemakers. And the 3 of them were very offended that the club have not only continued their silence on what happened in Amsterdam, but are now jumping in to bed with the enemy, so to speak.

HamiltonBhoy

17 Dec 2013 00:31:20
We should be going all out to get ryan gauld. We should be bringing our own youth players threw the ranks with Lennox town being their. Losing ledley or sammy wouldn't hold us back, better players have came and gawn. Buying gauld for 4-5m would be a pinch, the boy would go for 20 odd million further down the line. and if we don't dominate Scottish football for at least 10 year shame on us! With them being on there knees we need to get a winning mentality drilled into the future players. Losing cup finals and semi finals isn't acceptable, simple as. Lennon will hopefully learn and get stronger as a manager and stay with us a long time to build stability Manchester United etc. This isn't just a rebuilding time for them! While they try get off there knees we should be building for domestic dominance and European improvement year by year.

This is an all too familiar story. Take a young talented lad and over inflate his head with delusions of being "the next Messi", before you know it, he's swanning around a training ground with an attitude ala Tony Watt. I think it was a brilliant bit of business by the Utd board to sign up this kid on a long contract. He will get valuable game time, improving his game massively. The youth set up at Utd is a very good system and should keep his feet on the ground. If he continues to improve the way he is, he will undoubtedly become a fantastic footballer and play in one of the big leagues and net Utd a tidy profit. As for Celtic shelling out 4-5 million for an 18 year old, forget it, it's never going to happen. I would much rather see 4-5 million pumped into our youth set up and maybe we can nurture a Ryan Gauld or two. Utd have been churning out great young players for years, so their system must be working.

We should not have to rely on poaching other clubs youth no matter what team or country they are from as we are supposed to be the biggest club in Scotland with the training facilities and stadium of a top European club.
Our scouting network has a great reputation but our own youth development players are either farmed out for released without being given an opportunity to repay the investment in that development?

JJ