Celtic Banter Archive July 16 2016

 

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16 Jul 2016 23:44:31
Rogic christie janko griff kt Erik all favourites on here started the imps game yet Forrest commons still get the worst outa hoops fans mouths if Forrest starts on Wednesday he will tear them a new one and score you heard it hear first.

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17 Jul 2016 00:19:47
Seriously MR? Forrest done nothing today but pass ball back or loose it and commons won't ever get a game again to, e to move on.

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17 Jul 2016 00:47:30
Emm commons won't play again I'll say he'll be br best player this season also Forrest needs the ball to get to him quicker to get the best out of him slow build up issss the problem.

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17 Jul 2016 00:47:53
Forrest used to get the ball and run at players now when he gets the ball it's always a pass backwards he doesn't want to be there.

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17 Jul 2016 01:01:32
Forrest is mince aswell as being stroppy and unprofessional shouldn't even still be at the club never mind getting to wear the captain's armband today makes me want to puke him and commons as well as anyone who downed tools last season should be no where near Celtic.

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17 Jul 2016 06:26:06
Don't understand why Forrest gets a game when he's made it clear he doesn't want to sign a contract. Surely it's time to start playing players who want to be here and fight for the jersey and time to get rid of the ones that don't and clearly not up to it. As for commons, I know there's a lot of people on this forum that would be glad to see the back of him, personally for what we paid for commons and the amount of goals he's scored for us I don't get the criticism at all, but I guess everyone is entitled to they're opinion. I for one wouldn't be disappointed if he sticks around.

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17 Jul 2016 09:29:13
Forrest had potential and has pace other players don't bit he lacks quality and he is not a young boy any more, hasn't progressed time to move on.

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17 Jul 2016 14:37:52
Commons, Forrest, Brown and Bitton can all go and as soon as possible please. Some have given good service, others not. All however are not good enough and have been given enough chances to prove otherwise and failed. Time for some new blood please who are actually worthy.

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17 Jul 2016 17:05:38
Every manager everywhere operate from the same basis . They pick the players that they have who they think will do the best job for him .
I would be surprised if B Rodgers would be any different.

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16 Jul 2016 21:37:39
Is the return leg of imps on tv

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16 Jul 2016 22:35:26
I doubt it Stu, it's flag day and they will be wanting a full house.

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16 Jul 2016 22:59:12
A ridiculous decision to have flag day in the middle of the summer holidays so no chance of any full house.

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16 Jul 2016 23:21:31
It's on celtic tv.

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16 Jul 2016 23:55:16
There will be close to a full house.

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17 Jul 2016 00:34:39
Don't know what your estimate of close to full house is but if they get 40-45k thru turnstiles I'll be surprised.

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17 Jul 2016 05:13:24
Its only on Celtic tv to people outside UK and Ireland. you will get full game later at about midnight.

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16 Jul 2016 20:33:20
Gordon
Lustig . Shevvy . Ajer . Tierney
Roberts. Mgregor. Brown . Armstrong
Dembele. griffiths

Bench
Rogic. henderson. christie. cifti. janko. oconnell. fasan.

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16 Jul 2016 21:04:33
That would do me. I'd have the three mids just squeeze in a bit and give Roberts an absolute free license against LRI. Hopefully Ajer can step up. Christie for me, should be a decent enough player to bring on in a game this season. Pips GMS in my book as somebody to cause an opponents defence problems.

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16 Jul 2016 18:24:25
I thought the team in the second half today was better than the first half . scott allan and henderson played well and big ajaer done well. what's everyone's thoughts.

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16 Jul 2016 19:07:18
I thought a bit better in the first half. Quicker. Everybody did OK, but don't read too much into what was just a training exercise for Wolfsburg, who didn't have their German team members.

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16 Jul 2016 20:18:55
Thought the first half's team played better as a unit sharper and crisper passing. a few in the second half done well. Don't know how everyone else saw it but I thought rogic looked a little disinterested.

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16 Jul 2016 21:05:23
I thought Rogic looked good drb, but to be fair they all played pretty well even Forrest looked a bit more interested than usual. Looks like they've had the boot up the arse they deserved after Tuesdays efforts.

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16 Jul 2016 22:37:59
I thought we were very good today, Ajer when he came on was excellent and I hope he starts along with Erik on Wed. the young boy has a great eye for a pass and if we play the same way on Wed we will have no problems and should score a good few goals.

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16 Jul 2016 23:47:04
Great credit to Christie for the cool way he slot in his goal.
So different from Wednesday night I wouldn't be critical of any of the players, they bucked up their ideals and played at a lot higher pace.

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17 Jul 2016 01:04:30
seemed like they played more of a short passing game first half and second more longer deep passes for me both set's of players seemed at least up for it.

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17 Jul 2016 01:05:09
bar O'Connell he was pure guff.

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17 Jul 2016 17:12:35
There seem to be a very small group of posters who take great delight in ridiculing O'Connell. Who is a young centre half who mixed up some very good play yesterday with some poor distribution .
Do we want young lads to come through or do we want to destroy their career, before it gets properly started .

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16 Jul 2016 18:20:52
Hi guys what was the score today, anyone standout for us
HH.

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16 Jul 2016 21:14:03
Armstrong and Tierney looked really good in first half thought Christie , Rogic and dare I say Ciftci looked good in second half. Mind you it was a friendly and even Efe looked decent.

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16 Jul 2016 17:29:09
I thought Scott Allan looked good today, very tidy on the ball, admittedly wasn't a full Wolfsburg team but a good performance none the less.

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16 Jul 2016 17:53:28
No need to change the midfield or attack for our next game really. All we need is players with an extra spring in their step and our quality will see us through. I can't be dealing with players who just don't look interested anymore.

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16 Jul 2016 18:00:06
Biton for the next game?

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16 Jul 2016 18:16:26
What was the final score the day? N how was the new rail seating anybody try it out.

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16 Jul 2016 20:29:52
The rail seating looked good its a pity it will look half empty at games when standing is allowed , you could probably let 5000 stand in an area that has 3000 seats . I'm presuming that's the case that there will be the same numbers in that area whether the seats are in use or not?

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16 Jul 2016 21:12:10
It's allocated spots stevie, as in per seat. You're just allowed to stand up, that's all. There were some idiots comparing the plans to a system that could see reccurences of tragic disasters in the past. What we have in place prevents that.

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16 Jul 2016 17:22:26
The more I think about it and after watching the game today I've no doubt that we have a very exciting future.
Very promising young players in Ajer, tierney, Henderson, Christie, dembele and Roberts ( for next 12 months anyway ) are all under 21 and add sviatchenko and Griffiths are the players we should be building our team around. Play Armstrong deep in the middle and an injury free and fit Tom rogic and we have another 2 brilliant young players. Although most have served the club well, I think moving on commons, mulgrew, brown, lustig, Forrest and ambrose would be the best thing possible for the development of this young side.
Although I've been very critical of ciftci and have my doubts over how useful Allan is I think after watching today both could be useful and deserve until January to prove themselves. Ciftci in particular has impressed pre season and if he screws his head on we could have a useful player there.
On Biton and Johanson I'd happily take about £12m for both. Biton in particular I feel is a wasted talent and I'd much rather see Armstrong with more energy and drive.
On top of this an experienced CB, a RB version of tierney and a target man who can hit 30+ a season and we've got a team to compete in the Cl again.

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16 Jul 2016 17:42:36
So you wouldn't have mcgregor in the team?

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16 Jul 2016 17:54:31
I think Lawwell would take £12 m for Briton and Johannson if he got the chance, it would be more like the half of that i'm O . If Brendan Rodgers feels these players and others are holding the team back then money should be no obstacle in getting rid of them . if some older players are a negative influence we need them out no matter how little we get for them

I think today showed maybe up 18 or 20 youngish players who showed good talent and could be good for us . Janko was rotten at right back on Wednesday mainly because the ball was played to his feet . Today at left back the ball was played well in front of him and it was great to see him making break after break into the opponents penalty area.

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16 Jul 2016 18:09:07
Yeah mate, forgot about McGregor. He's another one if he screws his head on he will be useful. He's very similar I think to Armstrong but Armstrong edges it for me.

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16 Jul 2016 17:14:08
Thought it was a decent wee run out today! Once again highlights our need for a centre back to be brought in beside erik! o'connells use of the ball was woeful! And to me brown is done! Another game chasing shadows and giving away fouls! I counted 4 fouls In less than 10 min! Kept moving out of position and leaving enough room for a jumbo jet to get through the middle! Rodgers needs to be strong enough to drop him! This isn't just a couple of games either! It's been for the past couple of seasons! Thought Armstrong done well and wee KT was more like his usual self.

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16 Jul 2016 17:44:00
Been wanting brown out the team for years does nowt.

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16 Jul 2016 17:59:12
Brown got stuck in and Madden remembered who he was and gave plenty of frees . Brown also the team forward to good effect and was far better than the stand still version we seen on Tuesday night . You may have an argument about Brown not up to it so far this season or the end of last but to say it has been happening for the past couple of seasons isn't near right I M O.

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16 Jul 2016 20:26:02
Aye well that's your opinion mines is far from yours. He is the worst captain iv seen in all my days at celtic.

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16 Jul 2016 20:52:25
Old bhoy, brown was late to every tackle. That's not the same as getting stuck in.

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16 Jul 2016 21:13:12
Brown is crap!

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16 Jul 2016 16:24:30
My mate who lives in Sweden has just text me saying Jordan Larsson is going to Celtic! He told me he was withdrawn from the team today cause he is traveling to Scotland! I have no idea if this is true but just checked and he's not in the Helsingborg squad today! This might just be wishful thing on his behalf who knows that I would post it anyway.

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16 Jul 2016 17:24:50
Why would we be signing Jordan Larsson? Would it be in hope that he could as good as HL for him not to live up to expectations and fans to be disappointed, i say leave him where he is and see if he can develop a bit.

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16 Jul 2016 17:37:25
Callum Best Jordi Cruyff.

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16 Jul 2016 18:01:52
Frank Lampard.

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16 Jul 2016 18:17:24
Bhoy! Don't shoot the messenger I just received the text and posted a rumour.
In saying that not seen much of him to be honest but what I have seen I think he is maturing into a descent player, and I know he is getting some rave reviews over in Sweden, doesn't mean we should sign him just saying! It doesn't matter if he is Larsson son or Cruyffs son Celtic will only ever sign players they think are good enough to play for Celtic.

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16 Jul 2016 18:44:32
Gazcfc21 your mate was spot on about the info of Henke's boy not playing today i just looked at todays team on Helsinborgs site, he wasn't on the bench either, don't know if he's heading our way but you can never tell in football i do know Celtic have watched him a few times.

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16 Jul 2016 19:24:20
He isn't any better than what we have.

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16 Jul 2016 19:49:47
What? Not better than Ciftci? The boy has been playing that well recently for Helsinborgs that Manchester United and Barcelona are among the teams who have had scouts watching him.

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16 Jul 2016 20:30:44
Wasn't shooting the messenger mate just think that now is the time to at least try and attract accomplished players to the club, he does look decent but what we need is someone to guarantee goals if LG gets injured.

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16 Jul 2016 22:42:11
Can you imagine the pressure Jordan Larsson would be under even in a team that could guarantee decent service,

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16 Jul 2016 23:06:03
Think he would be good for us if we handle it correctly, talk about pressure say a prayer for the son of Kun Aguero, especially when your Granda is Maradona lol.

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16 Jul 2016 23:46:48
And Messi is his godfather 😂.

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16 Jul 2016 15:48:37
For anyone who wanted O'Connell to play against red imps rather than ambrose now you have your answer as to why he didn't.

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16 Jul 2016 15:52:02
He has been really poor just as well we didn't get punished more. Attacking play much better.

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16 Jul 2016 16:00:00
See previous posts could not get a game for Oldham last year before he got injured. MacCart is a better prospect.

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{Ed007's Note - See previous posts. Celtic fans immediately get on a young players back if he's not an instant world beater then the next second/minute/day/week they will chastise the manager for not playing youth players.}

16 Jul 2016 16:18:50
You can't win with our fans, if O'Connell was responsible for a goal due to an error then he would never get over it especially in Europe

At least Efe is used to it and it doesn't seem to affect him either way.

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16 Jul 2016 16:29:43
Just noticed Forrest with the captain's armband on wtf has Rodgers been smoking.

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16 Jul 2016 17:05:29
It's a friendly! If he doesn't get a run out even in a friendly how can we ever assess him or expect him to develop? I prefer Kelleher from what I've seen and Ajer looked alright in there but that's besides the point. I'm glad O'Connell got a run out. Although there's a performance there to be analysed, and citicised of course, these games are an exercise, for BR more than anybody.

Did LG and MD look any brighter together?

Was it a strong Wolfsburg side? I'd imagine Draxler and Schürlle won't have been playing but Dost? Kruse?

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16 Jul 2016 23:07:29
Missing at least 5 players that would start and had a new 10 mill striker on the bench

Even in a friendly I feel more assured that we will destroy the Imps on Wednesdsy.

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16 Jul 2016 23:56:05
I will never understand Celtic supporters, no Celtic player is ever ok or fairly good . He is either over rated or else he is pish, bombscare or useless .
Sometimes it might help the team to have more moderate views of our players.

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16 Jul 2016 15:37:06
Has robocop reborn been shut down I can't find it on navi-x anymore.

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16 Jul 2016 13:40:58
Last week we were waiting on Toure getting back us, I take it that's dead now? Still reeling from that Tuesday shambles, bit of good news would be nice. Not optimistic about us even reaching the CL playoff atm.

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16 Jul 2016 12:56:11
Do you think with BR putting Armstrong in front of the Press at a difficult time might also mean he willing put his trust in him on the park and give him a key role?

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16 Jul 2016 13:08:38
He has too IMO, by far one of our best in the CM role especially going forward.

It's who plays beside him that's the tough decision. I'd like to see Armstrong and SJ as they are both energetic and when confident play really well. Who sits back though and the 433 doesn't suit Rogic who I think can become a great player

God knows the best 11 we have and what formation suits us best, old fashion 442 maybe or 4312!

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16 Jul 2016 13:33:06
We should be playing Ajer in DM, that's the position he has played and the position he was bought for.
Although until we buy another CB I would play him beside Erik as he looked good there in the pre season games that I watched.

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16 Jul 2016 13:53:24
I think the second half of the imps game was crying out for a 4-4-2. I can understand your thinking with SJ and still remember his work rate in his best season was second to none in the team. I'm leaning towards MacG been given the chance, but I am also keen to see what Ajer could give to that CM role.
The few glimpses we have had of him suggests that he is very comfortable on the ball and unlike Bitton can put in a tackle. If he has a range of passes he may be a good shout, but then again Henderson can do that job and injects urgency in to the play. When Henderson plays that role he does tend to drift out of position at times and could leave us exposed. I don't envy the manager have to figure out who is the real deal and who flatters to deceive.

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16 Jul 2016 11:53:10
Monday - Turkish club interested in signing Efe Ambrose.

By Friday - Airport shut down, military close the country off and attempt to take over the country.

Coincidence?

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16 Jul 2016 17:19:16
were they trying to stop efe's plane from landing

bit extreme but understandable ….

may be celtic should close down the erskine bridge and kingston bridge and the any other bridge leading to celtic park and see if he gets the hint?

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16 Jul 2016 10:30:19
Got a tip for these two horses both at nice prices, one quite topical.
Monsieur Gibraltar Market Rasen 2.45
about 16/ 1 go with bookie paying 4 places
Lucky Mistake Newbury 4.10 14/ 1
Gow with bookie paying 5 places
as usual do each way singles and double.

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16 Jul 2016 19:17:55
Hey Tim u ever had a coupon up? Everything you've said in the past 3 tips u had are all p1sh so don't give up your day job. Another £10 in the bin. My own fault but the last I'll ever bet on your tips 😳.

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16 Jul 2016 10:28:48
Would just like to see Rodgers go to plan B until or if he gets in some players, these players have for 2yrs failed ro take on board new ideas or new systems, and judging by the start they have made that failing looks likely to continue. One of the biggest question marks around Ronny was his blind faith there was only one way to play, fitting square pegs into round holes having a system and trying to put players into it rather than having players and fitting the system that they can actually play in. Most of these players we brought up in 4 4 2 it's all they know and most have not got the ability to change, so until we move them on and replace with better quality I honestly feel we have to stick with the tried and tested. Would like to hear you folks take on this I'm not for one second trying to tell BR his job I'm just suggesting take a step back for now bring in your style of playing when you have the personnel to carry out your plans if ever still not even closely convinced you will get the backing of Desmond or lawwell that's required . would like to see this team start today. Gordon. Fisher lustig shviatchenko Tierney. Henderson Armstrong rogic Roberts. Dembele Griffiths.

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16 Jul 2016 08:34:36
Going to Wolfsburg game so will not be on late so putting up my football tips now.
All bets in the revamped league cup.
Some good prices for the bigger teams against lower league teams so go with the bigger teams.
But Motherwel at 3/ 1 to win and 14/ 5 draw stands out for me, the poor breadman's team have had "no chance to train" so lump on the new team not winning.

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16 Jul 2016 10:26:05
Bet with your head Tim not your heart your on a bad run after Charleston, Andy Murray n the imps the other night.

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