Celtic Banter Archive February 16 2011

 

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16 Feb 2011 22:42:32
To whoever wrote that limerick, absolute magic, it is the funniest thing i have read on here ever, you don't need a name pal if you can come up with dittys like that, i'm still laughing.

paddybhoy

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16 Feb 2011 22:22:54
"The Arsenal v Barca game was class in a glass!"

Aye, agreed! Beautiful to watch. I'm looking forward to the same sort of thing on Sunday! lol

BTW, how could Messi's "goal" be disallowed for off-side when he was behind his team-mate when the ball was knocked forward?!

Daviet

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16 Feb 2011 22:19:52
There once was a poster called SickBhoy
Who thought his postings were a joy
What he didn't realise
That behind his disguise
The drivel he wrote did annoy

He loves to use his moniker
As he is a bit of a wan(i)ker
The nonsense he spouts
At the so called louts
Is worse than listening to Lineker

He cannot handle no name
But it's all part of the game
The poster can choose
A name not to use
And it's the Eds who choose what to refrain

Pots calling kettles black comes to mind
Every time SickBhoy does grind
He's been censored himself
And put back on the shelf
Until his manners again he does find

No respect for no names has the SickBhoy
Have them banished is part of his ploy
He'll slag them all off
With insults from aloft
As he sits and plays with his toy

He loves to talk of religion
The lover of all creeds, he's the big yin
His family's mixed faith
But why tell us I prayith
I'd rather listen to a pigeon

What SickBhoy can't understand
That whenever he takes his stand
He should be polite
And not treat people like s**te
Show respect for all in the land

SickBhoy wants to be Ed
This website has gone to his head
And those with no names
Will be banished in flames
But him as Ed? . . No, that we'd all dread

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16 Feb 2011 22:16:19
The Arsenal v Barca game was class in a glass!
The way Barca work when, they don't have the ball is brilliant. Arsenal were worth their win imo, as they kept trying to play, the Arsenal crowd were absolutely brilliant tonight, and roared their team to victory. The young guy wilshere looks sheer class, i havent seen much of him, but he is one hell of a player if tonight is anything to go by, my bet was
2-2 so i was shouting for a penalty in the last minute, but it was great to watch a game that lived up to the hype, two teams going for it, brilliant!

paddybhoy

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16 Feb 2011 22:01:47
Sickbhoy, we all know Gattuso has that in his locker, hes slightly bonkers at the best of times but had to laugh at Souness' put down on Sky, from a guy who ruffled more feathers than a chicken farmer, although granted Souness at least was a fantastic footballer as well as a right hard bas**** lol. On the Adam subject, i think in a really good football team he would shine but agree the money Holloways talking about is OTT, although i hope he goes for about 60m lol.

Baz the Bear

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16 Feb 2011 21:07:33
I'm nae bad sickbhoy. Nae bad at all. Cheers for asking. How's yourself?
Don't get me wrong by the way. To me, Celtic are the biggest and best football family to grace God's earth. Nobody comes close in my opinion. My point was that no matter how much we think it, gers will just say "count the titles", then we say "67". We could argue until the sky turns green and the grass blue, or indeed, until the cooheeds come home. We'll never agree, so why bother.

Still no replys on first games though. Starting to think nobody has actually been to Paradise :-P

Ben Bhoy (makes the best lasagna this side of europe)

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16 Feb 2011 19:37:45
Ooo. your asking for it now ben bhoy. admittance to rangers being the most dominant team in scptland. wait to sick buoy reads that. lol

Hows tricks ben mate? thanks for this nugget backing up my theory, ben's entitled to his opinion, the whole point of the site is it not. But as long as Celtic are dominant in scotland let rangers have scptland lol
Good to see i'm as popular as ever on here! !
I'll not sleep tonight.

SickBhoy

P.S. See, benbhoy, a name that appears after his posts so warrants a respectful and intelligent reply. Benbhoys name was censored on here over a number in his nickname that the usual nameless s**t stirrers find offensive, I just find nameless drivel typers exactly as wee Strachan said. As you know benbhoy, I have and always will respect your opinions and banter wether I agree or not. At least we know who he is and what his opinions are, so thanx for backing up my ideas thee of no name, just helped prove my point really. I'll put you on my xmas card list benbhoy mate, at least I know who to write it to. Isn't gullibility one of the 7 deadly sins?

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16 Feb 2011 18:49:56
"So sit down, shut up and get back to your own manky page with the rest"

O-kay. Where to start.

I am now sitting. Satisfied? Pillock.

And as for "back to your own page". WTF? This page, pillock, is for "celtic banter" and not "Celtic fans".

You've completley missed the point of my post, But why does that not surprise me? Perhaps you are one of the fans your previous (successful) manager was talking about that drinks Kestrel lager? Just a thought.

Let me spell out the various points that were in my earlier post.

1. Rangers' debt is huge. No doubt. But we've knocked that down from £73.9mill in 2004. Partly due to the £51mill raised in the 2007 share issue and a further £20mill+ reductions in operating costs. Pillock.

2. The point I was trying to make in my "£12mill behind" comment was that your debt is increasing whereas ours is not. Indeed, far from it. Pillock. You also completely missed my reference to Celtic being £30mill in debt only 10 years ago. Just shows how easily debt can be reduced really. Pillock

I chuckled when i read "you say "£12 million" as if it's hardly anything". Thats 75% of your debt! I was trying to be make light of our debt but you missed the irony. Pillock.

Thanks for your attention. I know it makes your life worthwhile.

Daviet

ps. .pillock

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16 Feb 2011 18:56:49
"Everyone is talking about celtic 9 million in dept .
Celtic where 7.5 million in dept at start of the season"

Where are you getting this information?

From what I could find, debt had risen to £9mill from £3mill.

Turnover fell 21.4% to £28.39mill but profit (before taxation) had risen to £7.1mill from £1.7, largely fuelled by player sales (notwithstanding future installments).

Revenue fell by £8mill to £28.4mill. Profit from trading down from £4.7 mill to less than £1mill but but Reid admitted that "player trading" had become increasingly important to the balance sheet.

Concise enough for you?

This is in no way designed to bait or entice some form of retaliation. It's just a post of the facts.

Daviet

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16 Feb 2011 19:02:32
"And what is worse SickBhoy - not adding your name or doing what you have just done, giving a lot of personal unjustifiable absue. Clearly the adding of one's name has no effect on the decent manners of some posters - namely you. You have to realise that when you make such remarks, they say more about you and your chacter than they ever could about me.Shame on you SickBhoy.

Shame on me? LOL Your abuse was justified Coo-Heed, simply because you are a nameless little tosser, that justifies it to me. Did you read Gordon Strachan in todays Daily Record? OUCH for you coo-heed, that must have hurt a raw nerve with you, all the nameless people on sites like this stirring up bigotry. Once again. OUCH! You have never posted a single constructive post on this site, or engaged in a debate with anyone, all you have done is attack me, do you think I'm going to let a little gob s**** like you come on here slagging me to try to look smart? You can't look smart for 2 reasons, 1. You are not smart/ intelligent and 2. No one knows who you are. I hope that clears things up a bit for you coo-heed. Now give me f**n peace, you're boring the pubes off me!

SickBhoy"

I rest my case.

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16 Feb 2011 19:03:31
"only 330.000 was raised from new investors( fans) with mih under writing the rest"

Not QUITE correct there.

Existing shareholders applied for additional shares, and the rights issue also succeeded in attracting 1, 263 new shareholders, raising a further £307, 530.

Daviet

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16 Feb 2011 18:43:54
Thank gawd for that! Ben Bhoy has resolved which team is best. . Where he says 'Celtic are. .' is good enough for me ;-)

Personally I'm with Rod. . "Celtic are the best footballing team I've ever seen" (United were obviously only included to facilitate the rhyming couplet)

I don't envy Rangers the next 8 weeks or so. At least 17 games between now and Apr 16 (Celtic have 9 over the same period). If Rangers come through that ahead, I'll take my hat off to them.

Atheist

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16 Feb 2011 18:04:22
Ooo. your asking for it now ben bhoy. admittance to rangers being the most dominant team in scptland. wait to sick buoy reads that. lol

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16 Feb 2011 17:43:27
Let's end all this "we're better than you" rubbish. No tim or ger are gonna ever say that the other is bigger or better than their team. It's like school kids prattling on about who's dad is bigger.
As far as trophys go, the gers are the more successful domestic team, and in Euorpe the Celts are. End of. .

On a more inquisitive note, when was the first home game yous went to, against who and the score?

For me it was September 1995 against Motherwell. finished 1-1 but was made up because I got my programme signed by Bertie Auld and Willie McStay in Bairds before the game. First hat-trick I saw was, I think against Hearts that season or season after. John Collins completed his hat-trick from the spot.

Ben Bhoy (My da's bigger than your da)

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16 Feb 2011 17:36:07
Even as a Rangers fan I'm happy to admit Celtics european cup win in 1967 is probably Scotlands best achievement. The record speaks for itself, that celtic team won everything that year. 1967 was the pinnacle of Scottish Football; Celtic won the European Cup, Rangers were unlucky not to win the Cup Winners Cup and Scotland embarassed England at Wembley. I also think another Scottish team got to like the semi final of the Fairs Cup, possibly Kilmarnock but not too sure. Scottish Football was respected then unlike now. I would say though that one years achievement does not entitle you to say you are the biggest and best team in the country. If that was the case then Nottingham Forrest are bigger than Arsenal and Chelsea as they have never won the European Cup or Champions League.
Also, Celtic's 1967 team is not the best 'team'. There have been individual players before and since then that are entitled to be included in that list. Players such Baxter, Greig, Laudrup and Larsson.

Just out of interest, does anyone remember what round Celtic went out in the 1968 European Cup?

Georgie11

How far did rangers go in europe in 73? just out of interest

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16 Feb 2011 17:40:04
Daveit whats to worry about. 9 million debt? not as if the banks are going to take control of us for that. .not like yous. . we have at least 2 shareholders worth over 3 billion who could help and at worse the fans would dig deep as we have done before. . not like yous. . david murray wealth has dropped to about 150 million from a high 750million, with mih owing the banks 760 million 2009, may have dropped since then. dave king( a glib and shameless liar) company have to pay 240 million in taxes and a personel claim of maybe 80 million for his tax dodging. . just maybe if the fans who love there club bought shares in 2004 when rangers needed to raise 57 million. . only 330.000 was raised from new investors( fans) with mih under writing the rest. .now lloyds own 24 % of mih which owns 60000000 rangers shares. if only you dug deep and showed ur love u wouldn't be in the mess u are now. . as for the summer all celtic fans know we will have to sell players as we have a squad of over 30 players , so we expect people to go. if a good offer comes in for 1 of our starters we will sell that's why we are buying young playes who can do a turn for us and make money so we can buy more young players and so on .

Whyte and Ellis don't exactly have squeeky clean historys either. Whyte has declared companiys bankrupt to save paying redundancy money to people, asset stripped numerous compasnys and stayed in monaco to allow him to use a loophole to fend of a customs and excise investigation. all facts from simple google searches. FACT

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16 Feb 2011 17:28:26
Daveit whats to worry about. 9 million debt? not as if the banks are going to take control of us for that. .not like yous. . we have at least 2 shareholders worth over 3 billion who could help and at worse the fans would dig deep as we have done before. . not like yous. . david murray wealth has dropped to about 150 million from a high 750million, with mih owing the banks 760 million 2009, may have dropped since then. dave king( a glib and shameless liar) company have to pay 240 million in taxes and a personel claim of maybe 80 million for his tax dodging. . just maybe if the fans who love there club bought shares in 2004 when rangers needed to raise 57 million. . only 330.000 was raised from new investors( fans) with mih under writing the rest. .now lloyds own 24 % of mih which owns 60000000 rangers shares. if only you dug deep and showed ur love u wouldn't be in the mess u are now. . as for the summer all celtic fans know we will have to sell players as we have a squad of over 30 players , so we expect people to go. if a good offer comes in for 1 of our starters we will sell that's why we are buying young playes who can do a turn for us and make money so we can buy more young players and so on . .

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16 Feb 2011 16:57:18
Even as a Rangers fan I'm happy to admit Celtics european cup win in 1967 is probably Scotlands best achievement. The record speaks for itself, that celtic team won everything that year. 1967 was the pinnacle of Scottish Football; Celtic won the European Cup, Rangers were unlucky not to win the Cup Winners Cup and Scotland embarassed England at Wembley. I also think another Scottish team got to like the semi final of the Fairs Cup, possibly Kilmarnock but not too sure. Scottish Football was respected then unlike now. I would say though that one years achievement does not entitle you to say you are the biggest and best team in the country. If that was the case then Nottingham Forrest are bigger than Arsenal and Chelsea as they have never won the European Cup or Champions League.
Also, Celtic's 1967 team is not the best 'team'. There have been individual players before and since then that are entitled to be included in that list. Players such Baxter, Greig, Laudrup and Larsson.

Just out of interest, does anyone remember what round Celtic went out in the 1968 European Cup?

Georgie11

We crashed and burned in 1st round to Dinamo Kiev in 1st round Georgie mate (but mind the KGB didn't like us because of JFK and the Bay of Pigs) 69 we got to the quarter final, going out to AC Milan and then our 2nd final appearance in 1970, 1971 was QF again, 72 was semi final where Inter got their revenge. 74, semis again, beat by atletico madrid, only other notable one was 1980s QF defeat to Real Madrid, the rest is early round exits, and this was all done while winning regularly on the domestic front, but you must agree it's still a quite good history. As for certain players etc, Laudrup, Gascoine(who, though I hated the so and so, wasted a career that could have took him anywhere, do you think he would have ever arrived at Ibrox if he had fulfilled his potential as a youngster? ) Henke, Lubo (where was this guy till he was 33? ) , etc etc they were all outstanding footballers, and played in great teams, get them all together to compare medals with Billy McNeill though. IMO, and that's all it is, no other "team" will do what Celtic done in 67, and Scottish football will never be as strong as that again. Which is the saddest part of it all. Wouldn't it be amazing to be talking about both our teams repeating those days just now rather than argue over history? Only the other year it was an all England CL Final, fair enough it would be a policing nightmare, but imagine watching Celtic beat Rangers (or vice versa) for the European Cup. I'm getting all misty eyed here now lol.

SickBhoy

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16 Feb 2011 16:57:36
To George11
celtic lost to dynamo kiev in the first round 3-2agg in 68.
kilmarnock did reach the semi-final in 67 also in 67 dundee utd beat barcelona home and away 4-1agg.

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16 Feb 2011 16:33:26
SickBhoy {ed's note - to be fair Liverpool didn't have the same desperate need for a centre midfielder that there was for a striker. Plus you have to remember that Karl Oyston refused to deal with Liverpool because Kenny Moyes had revealed private details to them and Villa in an attempt to get Adam a big move. Spurs met the asking price.}

I wasn't that sure if the Spurs thing was true, that's why I didn't say anything about them. I knew that Moyes had put Oystons nose out of joint though. So Ed in your opinion what value/ level do you see Adam at? Would Everton be too much of a coincedence come the summer when Adam will surely force the move regardless of relegation or not. To me that's his kind of level, Everton/ Fulham/ Villa that type of level. (No offence to any the teams by the way).

SickBhoy (rapidly blessing himself hoping you do not say Man Utd lol) {ed's note - Everton are out of the picture unless they get a takeover. It is more likely that the other Moyes leaves. As far as I can find out there is a deal sorted for Adam to move on in the summer, which Adam had been promised in the first place. All the messing about was down to an agent's disgraceful actions trying to earn himself some extra cash by moving his player on to Villa, in the first place, then, when Oyston disputed their relevance as a big club, he dragged Liverpool in. I can't say too much more other than the fault all lies at Kenny Moyes' door for all the hassle. Adam had a cast-iron promise that he would be allowed to leave at the end of the season, now, I believe, a deal has been agreed that suits all parties. I am not 100% on it being with Liverpool, but it does seem to be the other team involved and the reason a Spurs deal didn't go through. You have to remember that Adam had to go to a tribunal just to get the bonus he was entitled to after Blackpool's promotion. You can't blame the lad for wanting a move away, the Oyston's are not exactly a nice bunch after all.}

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16 Feb 2011 16:23:01
Even as a Rangers fan I'm happy to admit Celtics european cup win in 1967 is probably Scotlands best achievement. The record speaks for itself, that celtic team won everything that year. 1967 was the pinnacle of Scottish Football; Celtic won the European Cup, Rangers were unlucky not to win the Cup Winners Cup and Scotland embarassed England at Wembley. I also think another Scottish team got to like the semi final of the Fairs Cup, possibly Kilmarnock but not too sure. Scottish Football was respected then unlike now. I would say though that one years achievement does not entitle you to say you are the biggest and best team in the country. If that was the case then Nottingham Forrest are bigger than Arsenal and Chelsea as they have never won the European Cup or Champions League.
Also, Celtic's 1967 team is not the best 'team'. There have been individual players before and since then that are entitled to be included in that list. Players such Baxter, Greig, Laudrup and Larsson.

Just out of interest, does anyone remember what round Celtic went out in the 1968 European Cup?

Georgie11

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16 Feb 2011 15:58:21
To Sickbhoy
does that mean you have a brazillian?

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16 Feb 2011 15:55:34
To GTID
In 1967 celtic won the league and only lost 2 games. both games were lost to dundee utd so going on what you say dundee utd comes out on top in the year 1967.

How boring is this arguement getting now?

Re: ehh no cos i never said anyhting about head to head competitions celtic won the league so they were the best the saying goes "the league never lies". If you can't understand the point im making then it really says it all about you. You know fine well iv made a 100% valid point and now ur trying to wriggle out it . .
Q: who is the best team in a league?
A: the team that wins it.
If a team wins the competitions that with no arguements shows the best team that year more times than their rivals then there is no arguement to say that over the period of time that both teams have existed rangers have been the better team. And you waiting for this one of the only times this word can get used properly on this site . . . . FACT! lol

GTID

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16 Feb 2011 15:34:29
I can confirm celtic are no longer in debt as i have just paid it off with my winnings from a lucky 15 and with the change left am goin to buy a wham bar

the wham bar muncher VIEWPARKBHOY

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16 Feb 2011 15:31:19
And what is worse SickBhoy - not adding your name or doing what you have just done, giving a lot of personal unjustifiable absue. Clearly the adding of one's name has no effect on the decent manners of some posters - namely you. You have to realise that when you make such remarks, they say more about you and your chacter than they ever could about me.Shame on you SickBhoy.

Shame on me? LOL Your abuse was justified Coo-Heed, simply because you are a nameless little tosser, that justifies it to me. Did you read Gordon Strachan in todays Daily Record? OUCH for you coo-heed, that must have hurt a raw nerve with you, all the nameless people on sites like this stirring up bigotry. Once again. OUCH! You have never posted a single constructive post on this site, or engaged in a debate with anyone, all you have done is attack me, do you think I'm going to let a little gob s**** like you come on here slagging me to try to look smart? You can't look smart for 2 reasons, 1. You are not smart/ intelligent and 2. No one knows who you are. I hope that clears things up a bit for you coo-heed. Now give me f**n peace, you're boring the pubes off me!

SickBhoy

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16 Feb 2011 15:19:41
To Baz
My valuations was just figures I pulled out my head from reading different stories over the months, it wasn't my personal valuations. My point was why the EPL come up here and offer say 3-4 mill for McGregor, but if he was some unknown keeper from another poor league (dutch, austrian, danish for example) and a foreign sounding name his price would double. I agree that McGregor is a top drawer keeper, with international/ european experience yet Man Utd buy Lindegaard(sp) for £3.5 mill? Had any one here heard of him? First I had heard of him was reading the Man Utd pages on here!
But sorry mate, need to agree to disagree on Adam, a one season wonder, and if all those managers wanted him so bad he wouldn't be at Blackpool still. The fact no one matched the asking price kind of says it all to me, he was worth a 4/ 5 million gamble to a big (rich) club, but not the reported £12-14 that was supposedly asked for, Liverpool paid £35 million for Carroll who, although younger, has had a career path so far similiar to Adam in England, 1 championship season and 6 months in the EPL.
WTF was Gattuso on last night? Fukn headcase, imagine anyone in their right mind going for Joe Jordan?

SickBhoy {ed's note - to be fair Liverpool didn't have the same desperate need for a centre midfielder that there was for a striker. Plus you have to remember that Karl Oyston refused to deal with Liverpool because Kenny Moyes had revealed private details to them and Villa in an attempt to get Adam a big move. Spurs met the asking price.}

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16 Feb 2011 15:03:40
The european cup win was the greatest ever achievement by any football team from SCOTLAND, national or clubwise, it was a long time ago but the FACT stands, the LISBON LIONS, were the greatest team this country has ever produced, and is ever likely to produce!
paddybhoy
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Alright Paddybhoy, I'm in no way trying to take away the achievement of Celtic of winning the European cup. But saying that they were the best team ever in Scotland is not true. better team's (rangers with gazza laud ect, rangers under dick advocate (van bronk, mols, rayner, Celtic under Martin O'Neill). These managers/ teams never achieved anything like the Lisbon Lions, BUT they are better footballing teams. You would have to agree if the Celtic team back then played any of the teams named above they would be beaten easily. So no. . they are not the best teams Scotland has produced.

August 6th 1966, Celtic beat Manchester United 4-1 at Celtic Park in a match that was far from a friendly, Man Utd had, apart from recent World Cup Winners Bobby Charlton and Nobby Stiles in their team but also Pat Crerand, Denis Law and George Best in a full strength line up. Their last game of the season was on June 7th 1967 when Celtic totally outplayed Real Madrid at the Berbabeu in Alfredo Di Stefanos testimonial which Celtic won 1-0 and after which Jinky Johnstone was applauded off the field by a capacity Bernabeu after Jinky ran riot all night and set up Lennox winner. During these dates Celtic played 65 games, winning 53, losing 4 and drawing 8, scoring 201 goals along the way while only conceding 50.
True the only Scottish team to beat them was Dundee Utd twice. Celtics Championship winning stats were P.34 W.26 D.6 L.2, their goals for was 111 (averaging 3.2 goals per game) and goals against was 33 (less than 1 per game). Joe McBride scored 37 goals for Celtic before Christmas, and after missing the rest of the season with a broken leg was still Scotlands top scorer for that season. Celtic were unbeaten in all 10 League Cup ties, 6 Scottish Cup ties and 3 Glasgow Cup ties (when the tournament meant something). They only lost one tie in Europe, a 1-0 defeat to Yugoslavian team Vojvodina Novi Sad in the quarter final first leg tie (they also lost a bounce game to Dinamo Zagreb 1-0 prior to the quarter final tie).
9 of The Lisbon Lions played for Scotland that season, and Bobby Lennox scored in Scotlands 3-2 defeat of newly crowned World Champions England at Wembley, a game that also saw goalkeeper Ronnie Simpson win his first Scotland cap at the age of 36. All 11 Lions were eventually capped for Scotland.
Jock Stein was named Manager of Britain (a now defunct award) for the second succesive season and took great delight in lifting Celtics 6th trophy of the season, the Reserve League cup. So that memorable season we began by beating the team who would succeed us as European Champions and ended it by beating the previous (6 times) seasons winners. The total cost of the team was £50,000.
This is without going into the sort of detail such as flying back from the Euro semi final in Prague to play Aberdeen at Hampden in the Scottish Cup final within 48 hours of each game.Speaks for itself to me who the best team was!

SickBhoy

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16 Feb 2011 14:21:36
To GTID
In 1967 celtic won the league and only lost 2 games. both games were lost to dundee utd so going on what you say dundee utd comes out on top in the year 1967.

How boring is this arguement getting now?

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16 Feb 2011 13:20:10
Everyone is talking about celtic 9 million in dept .
Celtic where 7.5 million in dept at start of the season
So we have went up another 1.5 million but no one is talking
About the 7.2 million profit before tax so take 18 per cent off
That so we make around 5.8 million profit so if that money is not put
On players it will come off the dept and its only febuary ,
Both old firm teams have made over 2.5 million from both scottish
Cup matches, so celtic are in no trouble .

If lennon stays he will have the foundation to his team ,
He will sign a few players and let a few go.

It will be the same as the strachan era , the board will let lennon
Spend some money until they beleave we have a strong squad to
Compeat and then drew the money back at other times ,
Mainly if they ever reach the champions league and you can't
Do that with a poor squad now as all scottish teams have to qualifie
From next season.

Celtic are in no trouble as Desmond will never let celtic go beyond
What he is willing to cover.

{Editor's Note: The tax on profit is levied rather higher than 18%.}

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16 Feb 2011 13:31:11
To GTID
In 1967 celtic won the league and only lost 2 games. both games were lost to dundee utd so going on what you say dundee utd comes out on top in the year 1967.

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16 Feb 2011 13:43:53
Just o break the banter. Have a look on youtube at "thai tims just can't get enough". Tear to my eye, I tell ya.
Ben Bhoy (happily content for a change)

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16 Feb 2011 14:13:10
I posted earlier the possible issues Celtic may have in the summer. I wasn't having a dig. You may want to scroll down the Rangers Banter page for fact and figures regarding Rangers' debt. You're only £12mill behind now.

Shut up ya tube! you say "£12 million" as if it's hardly anything! our debt is still more than HALF of your's! So sit down, shut up and get back to your own manky page with the rest

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16 Feb 2011 11:35:37
"doesn't count the sale of A£1m mcmanus A£3.5m mcdonald and A£1m robson "

These results were for year ending Dec 31st 2010.

I'm sure you realise what you've done there with your rant, but I'll just refresh your memory. .

Mcmanus was sold to Middlesbrough for £1.5mill on 13/ 07/ 2010. McDonald was also sold to Middlesbrough for £3.5mill on 01/ 02/ 2010. Barry Robson also left during that transfer window. (amazing what a bit of research can do. .). In the same end of year report, it was revealed that Lennon had spent £9mill on players. I would be wary of bigger clubs "stealing" your players, as they did ours. . .

I posted earlier the possible issues Celtic may have in the summer. I wasn't having a dig. You may want to scroll down the Rangers Banter page for fact and figures regarding Rangers' debt. You're only £12mill behind now.

And don't forget, my Green friend, it was only 10 years ago when you owed £30mill under Saint Martin.

Daviet

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16 Feb 2011 11:39:45
The european cup win was the greatest ever achievement by any football team from SCOTLAND, national or clubwise, it was a long time ago but the FACT stands, the LISBON LIONS, were the greatest team this country has ever produced, and is ever likely to produce!
paddybhoy
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Alright Paddybhoy, I'm in no way trying to take away the achievement of Celtic of winning the European cup. But saying that they were the best team ever in Scotland is not true. better team's (rangers with gazza laud ect, rangers under dick advocate (van bronk, mols, rayner, Celtic under Martin O'Neill). These managers/ teams never achieved anything like the Lisbon Lions, BUT they are better footballing teams. You would have to agree if the Celtic team back then played any of the teams named above they would be beaten easily. So no. . they are not the best teams Scotland has produced.

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16 Feb 2011 11:41:11
"The european cup win was the greatest ever achievement by any football team. . "

I can't believe I'm getting drawn in to this. .

In my opinion, it was a great achievement. No question. To have a team of 11 Scots born within a few miles of the stadium go on to win a European trophy was an amazing feat. (During a holiday, John Greig reminded Bobby Moore that both Rangers and Celtic were in the both finals that year).

As a Bear, I could go on about our record(s), firsts, etc, etc.

But I'm not gonna. I'm just gonna let you believe that yours is "the best". And you're just gonna let me believe that mine is "the best"

Daviet

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16 Feb 2011 11:44:15
Billy McNeil- "Celtic are an Irish club playing in Scotland"

Discuss.


Daviet

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16 Feb 2011 11:54:51
The european cup win was the greatest ever achievement by any football team from SCOTLAND, national or clubwise, it was a long time ago but the FACT stands, the LISBON LIONS, were the greatest team this country has ever produced, and is ever likely to produce!
paddybhoy

Re: Im not disputing that what celtic achieved is something every fan should be so proud of . my point tho is that this only shows that you had a very good team that year doesn't show over the years who has been the better team. That is how a comparison of teams should be done, with our domestic dominance it shows that we have been the better team since we both existed in comparison to records that show that you "once" had a great team

GTID

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16 Feb 2011 11:58:05
I have got to laugh at all these rankers coming on here about debt you lot are hilarious! This A£9m quite rightly doesn't count the sale of mcgeady but it ALSO doesn't count the sale of A£1m mcmanus A£3.5m mcdonald and A£1m robson so go back and cry to lloyds you miserable lot

Skinnybhoy

well if that's the case then it also doesn't include any money that has been spent on players . . 4got bout that eh? !

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16 Feb 2011 10:28:52
The european cup win was the greatest ever achievement by any football team from SCOTLAND, national or clubwise, it was a long time ago but the FACT stands, the LISBON LIONS, were the greatest team this country has ever produced, and is ever likely to produce!
paddybhoy

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16 Feb 2011 08:33:20
I have got to laugh at all these rankers coming on here about debt you lot are hilarious! This £9m quite rightly doesn't count the sale of mcgeady but it ALSO doesn't count the sale of £1m mcmanus £3.5m mcdonald and £1m robson so go back and cry to lloyds you miserable lot

Skinnybhoy

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16 Feb 2011 09:30:09
Ex ger Gatusso was out of order doing that head butt to an ex celt last night! Imagine if he done that to Laugherty or Mcgregor, they would be in hospital for about 6 months.
paddybhoy

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16 Feb 2011 10:14:15
To GTID
The fact that you have to remove our european record to come out on top anwsers your question.
Lets be fair rangers have been in europe as well.

Re: yes but it is impossible to say that a team that arent in a competition couldnt possibly win it. ie when celtic won the euro cup no-one can say that the gers team at the time wouldn't have won it. What we can derive however is that in the competitions that we have both been in at the same time then the gers come out on top. And if you take the league u have a comp were each team plays all the same games as every other team against the same opponents this is the only true way of determining who has the better team true? course it is, therefore if you look at comparing the two teams this is the only fair way to do it.

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