Celtic Banter Archive September 15 2018

15 Sep 2018 20:36:45
Reading all the posts about our display last night, yes we were poor, but everyone on here seems to go overboard after a poor display.
These are NOT excuses, but just some of the reasons that contributed to our 0-0.
There must have been at least a dozen players (12) away on international duty, and they did not have much recovery time, as the "impartial" computer fixtures had us playing first on a Friday.
Also, we must give credit to St Mirren, who were fired up to impress their new manager.
We have to mention the officials, yes Nitcham was stupid but I think he deserved a red, but in saying that "son of Dallas" closed his eyes to some dodgy tackling by Saints players.
But even with 10 men we should have beaten an average team, and our passing for Rosenburg game, MUST be sharpar and slicker and side and back passes kept to a minimum.
So please let's put all the negativity behind us, and support the team. COYBIG.

15 Sep 2018 21:21:23
Just excuses I’m afraid Tim, your blinded by the Sevco result. All the clubs with international players coming back don’t seem to be drawing with the low level teams.

Performances over the last 18 months have been a joke, I actually think it’s so bad just now that BR is giving Christie game time to highlight just how bad it is

Supporting the team is never the issue. It’s the constant gruelling watch for 90 mins that’s annoying fans and the severe lack of creativity.

15 Sep 2018 21:53:27
Why would Rodgers highlight his own shortcomings?

15 Sep 2018 21:46:26
St Mirren will surprise a lot of teams if the new manager can recapture and build on and improve the team spirit that existed last season, bit silly of Stubbs to try and introduce a lot of new players and change last year's championship winning team, or what was left of it.

15 Sep 2018 21:59:58
Kev T, I'll start with the only part of your post I agree with, not severe as you say but there is a lack of creativity at the moment. To say "the performances over the past 18 months have been a joke" is just one of the biggest load of Shiite I've read on here. In this joke period of 18 months we've secured 5 trophys, jeezo unfekinbelievable.

15 Sep 2018 23:08:57
Am with you Steve terrible statement it'll come good god we're 5 games in.

16 Sep 2018 09:13:47
I'll tell you what's rubbish and that's our performance over the last 12 months, it's shockingly slow and boring pass pass pass oh god this is so boring, we get to half way line then pass back to defence it's rubbish and for the ones that say but we won this we won that come on the teams we are playing we should be winning all the cups even our second team should win the league, we have one of the worst goals scored record so far how often do we batter teams we don't we win by 1 or 2 goals and that's if we are lucky enough not to get a draw the team is not clicking and the tactics are all wrong our new signings mostly consists of players from the spfl that in my opinion are not good enough players from Dundee players from Aberdeen from st mirren and crocks that she sit injured, what are we going to get by buying like this not a lot that's for sure, it's a joke at the min let's not lie about that I think/ hope things will change over the next few month but won't hold my breath boring boring boring Neil Lennons celtic team would of destroyed this team fact.

16 Sep 2018 10:29:42
Why else play Christie? He’s absolutely not good enough and should be with an Aberdeen.

Stevie and Mally - wake up eh? Lennon and Deila should have had trebles given no competition over the majority of tenure.

BR is doing what the minimum is getting trebles and the big deal for Celtic going forward is European progress where clearly his ambitions are not getting matched

BR first season was brilliant, since then it’s been very poor and so many games have been simply not good enough.

16 Sep 2018 11:06:44
To go from Moussa to Christie sums us up to a tee. Downsize every two years. No thought to even attempt to make the fall in quality ever happens. Christie is simply nowhere near good enough. To expect the lad to reach heights he doesn’t possess is unfair to him.

Our potency as an attacking unit can be clearly seen as being much reduced. Losing Paddy has left us with Forrest whose consistency has been an issue since he first came in. His final baw and ability to beat players swings wildly from game to game. We never know what we are getting.

Morgan and Arzani to me are the only alternatives we have to try and figure out a way to unpack crowded defences. We failed in the CL and we have failed in most games to score as many goals. Christie is not the answer and having no one breathing down Forrest’s neck leaves us with a player who is too often not able to do the job.

Griff also looks as if he couldn’t score in a brothel right now. That may be down to the crash in clear opportunities we create. But, when he is given a chance he is failing to convert too often.

A player makes a sideways pass because they don’t have the ability to take the defenders on and beat them. That’s the unpalatable truth. Arzani and Morgan and Makimuku need to be given a chance. Even if it onky serves as a kick up the arse for players who just aren’t cutting it.

16 Sep 2018 11:34:17
I can only assume the ones that are overreacting to a slump in form are only old enough to remember Seville onwards, you should of seen us in the 90's, this is why I will never tire of seeing us pick up silverware, no matter the type of performance . Your comment Kev " BR is doing the minimum winning trebles" is another ridiculous statement . Hate to think what you're going to do when we finally lose a cup tie which is bound to happen eventually. No team, . no matter what league they're in should be arrogant enough to believe it is their right to win everything.

16 Sep 2018 12:01:25
I've seen all our best and worst since about 1975 onwards and yes this is far better than the bad times but right now the spl/ top league is probably the worst I've seen it. and the football were playing now isn't good hasn't been for a while . would this team beat the ferguson era aberdeen or the pre sevco.

16 Sep 2018 12:06:45
And another thing. Rosenborg will have noticed our inability so far to create chances. Leaving us with the ball and only wearing out the grass is sideways sweeps will be exactly what they want. A draw for them would be a great result and hoping to exploit a CB slotted in our of position would be my game plan.

Even if Lustig plays his lack of pace is a weakness. I fully expect Rogers to go with the same players who have toiled to make things happen. What choice does he have with not one player being brought in who would instill confidence. A 32 year old free agent? He would have wanted more options, but our board focus on the cash in the bank option and see us slide.

Rogers has been let down. We have been let down and frustrations will be leveled at players who should not be playing in certain positions. Too many players are not firing, having no one to come in is typical Lawell. We couldn’t break down a team who will not get out of the bitten 4 all year. I have absolutely no belief in our board and am preparing myself for another last day scramble for players we neither want or who will improve us.

Being cheapskates and devoid of ambition the board are in the dock. The players there need to step up as you can get your arse the board won’t.

All the talk about players out of contract only reminds us how inept our board are in moving us forward. I won’t be giving players pelters for being in the team when they shouldn’t be. Rogers has no wiggle room. And that is nothing but a feckin disgrace.

Here’s hoping we can find our form. We have no options other than hope. You can put the pot on for our board trainwrecking us. That’s where my fury will be directed, where it belongs.

Remember Rogers quite after the cup final.

“We will bring in quality, we must. ”

Not when Egomaniac is in charge of getting them.

16 Sep 2018 12:40:52
I don't know what's happened to Sinclair, but if he is fit and in any kind of form then I think he should play.
On Friday we had Brown, N'tcham, Rogic, and McGregor all playing, I think it is getting too congested in the midfield and we should use the whole width of the pitch as much as we can.
When we were so impressive 2 seasons ago that is what we did and teams found it hard to defend against us.

16 Sep 2018 12:53:21
Stevie born in 1980 so I’ve dealt with the bad times like most

I don’t live in the past and my comments are for the current period we find ourselves in. Our league is poor, I expect us to lose the odd game now and again regardless of how we play but what I can’t understand despite the trophies last year is is how we as a team have fallen significantly from BR 1st season?

There is certainly no sign this season that things will change. This boring style of play we have passing sideways is killing my soul. We put in crosses when we have no one capable of attacking it and all the teams know this and play just like St Mirren did.

We will get a footballing lesson from the Red Bulls and Rosenborg will have learned the lesson from the earlier qualifier -

Maybe you guys have a sensational level of patience and are happy with things as they are. I like a lot of others simply think things should be so much better.

16 Sep 2018 13:02:10
Brendan Rodgers the man who's bigger than Celtic football club. Brendan says:
It's the fault of the Celtic pitch.
It's the fault of the hearts pitch.
It's the fault of the board.
It's the fault of the players.
It's the fault of the officials.
Never been brendan's fault.

16 Sep 2018 13:50:44
Kev calm doon pal 2 weeks ago we were world beaters your living in the greatest time to be a Tim since big jock, there's always a dip when you've dominated and big jocks teams also dipped, we'll come good once we get a wee run going it's been a bit stop start.

16 Sep 2018 14:02:34
Exactly Mally that's what pisses me off. A win against Rosenborg and an away win at Killie and everything will be rosy again until our next draw then all hell will break loose again. God help us when there is really something to moan about.

16 Sep 2018 14:38:08
1980 kev? you're just a pup, i was going regularly as a 13 year old then, pure entertainment watching from the jungle, i think it was 40p in then if i remember correctly, great memories.

16 Sep 2018 14:51:41
First game 1976 league cup final unfortunately pumped 2-1 by the ss king Kenny playing as well.

16 Sep 2018 17:04:26
I never seen us winning till my 4th game, beat off St Johnstone first game, beat off the sheep 2nd game and trounced off Dundee 5-1 in my 3rd game and if I remember correctly big Roy had put us 1 up early doors.

16 Sep 2018 17:33:23
On Friday night we played with an over defensive approach . we played with a slow careful methodical approach keeping procession seemed our top priority . I think Ntcham was mad with himself that he couldn't get control of the ball despite hunting all over the pitch . Dallas ended his participation in the 37th min after allegedly Ntcham had committed two yellow card offences . Fair enough although Dallas gave countless frees to the Saints who were certainly sinners on the night but Dallas absorbed them from all guilt .
St Mirren started brightly and we had Forrest too often 20-30 yds from own goal and Mc Gregor on the left who rarely seems to be as effective when Rogic is playing . To me Rogic doesn't do enough to start a game but can be a game winner when coming on with about 30 mins to go . Eduardo cannot play the lone striker role when he is isolated on his own . We need to be getting far more players into box and not with a big responsibility of getting back to cover . We have to take a bit of a risk and rely on defensive midfield and centre defenders to do their bit, when we are playing ave or below average SPL teams, even when the like of Dallas is influencing game.

15 Sep 2018 17:17:52
How serious do people think hearts are in terms of a challenge given we have to play Thursday Sunday and the fact that it's unlikely that given our form good one week bad the next that we can put say a run of wins together should we be worried?

15 Sep 2018 17:54:07
After the very unsettling transfer window, the disappointment of the transfer activity and our CL exit; I actually thought we were starting to get a grip after beating Suduva and Sevco convincingly and playing well. However, last night has come as a bit of a downer and it puts doubt in our minds once again - from game to game as to what Celtic team turns up on the day?
I have still no doubt we are much better than any SPL opponent, but it's up to the players to prove it all over again consistently and regularly perform with pride, potency, power and passion.

15 Sep 2018 20:25:07
Nobody will give us a chaĺlenge this season Patrick, just like the previous 7 seasons. Wasn't happy with the lackadaisical attitude last night and that would be my only concern, the players know they are streets ahead ability wise than anything in Scotland and it's their duty to prove it week in week out.

16 Sep 2018 10:22:24
I was about to reply that hearts will not manage the consistency to challenge us. But then, we have no consistency ourselves. Don't think the league will be an issue this year but ell you what- Rosenburg will be well up for it this time around. Failing to beat them on Thursday is actually thinkable, and it shouldn't be.

16 Sep 2018 17:39:25
If we are concerned about winning the SPL, the game against Rosenburg is f little consequences . If we, now reasonably well into our season and with almost a full deck of players to play with can't beat Rosenburg with ease, we need to examine our targets . We have bettered Rosenburg in the last two seasons with them nearly mid season and us pre -season.

17 Sep 2018 18:33:59
Hearts will win there next two home games I have no doubts

Then there away to Rangers - if they win that then maybe we have a challenge this year

There next bunch of fixtures are then Aberdeen, Dundee, Hibs then Celtic

By the time we play them again it will confirm if they are indeed challengers.

15 Sep 2018 15:42:00
Do we need to talk? last night was poor, and as poor as we have been for a while, that was a new low. For me that was confirmed by completely dominating the second half with a man short. Being honest i expected a bit of a lag, there usually is after these international breaks, but i thought we would run it off after half an hour. I also expected us to score while we were bedding in, instead we were maybe a wee bit iffy at 0-0.

Ponderous and predictable. The very opposite of what we were in our last game. Eddy, James and to a lesser extent Rogic, not excusing him but at least he tried to open things up, were all poor. Oli? Just looked off it from the first short pass, also seemed to be having trouble keeping it in which is not like him. Ajer looks terrified, and with justification, playing right of a three, and really only Broony was on it.

Br needs to have a rethink here. This is a recurring problem for us, this lack of guile. Maybe the new system had a say in it, if it did we will need to be ready midweek, and when he tweaks it it will shape up. problem is we won't know till it does or does not!

Last word on dallas the younger, his dad must be so proud. This is not sour grapes but an observation. Oli got penalised for a clean tackle. he raised his hand in a aye right gesture and was booked. He then was sent off for a second bookable, looked harsh to me but he was stupid giving him the chance to act on it. Now. Has anybody else noticed the amount of times our defenders and midfield are penalised for their FIRST foul? Broony got booked because a guy missed the ball and ran into him!

This will become a problem as they mount up. Deliberate? Honestly i think so. We have seen what we are up against with the spineless SFA.

15 Sep 2018 21:45:55
The warning signs were there at Gorgie Road when Lafferty and especially 'wee rat-boy' Naismith were allowed to assault our players all over the pitch virtually unpunished.
Collum in the Sevco game was another example, with two game changing decisions - ignoring a blatant penalty on Ajer and a retaliatory kick on the same player by McGregor.

Then last night we saw baby Dallas in full flow from start to finish honest mistakes, blind eyes and as you say a biased befitting his bigoted father.
There is no shadow of a doubt that the establishment are on full alert to disrupt, hamper and hinder the double treble winners in fear of yet another Celtic clean sweep and even more humiliation for their favourites and to date I think we have picked up 2 red and 17 yellow cards already and we are halfway through September.

15 Sep 2018 14:12:54
Watching the spurs game and wants me can't get a game for Eric bloody dier well named.

15 Sep 2018 11:03:39
After watching recent games against AEK, Suduva, Hearts, St Mirren I have caught myself thinking I am watching Ronnie Deila's team and tactics. The lack of urgency in getting the ball up the park when there is only 5-10mins left.

Question is what is going to change?

Most of the team were well below bar and for this early in the season I'm struggling for reasons, tiredness? Lack of new faces? Team dynamics affected with Boyata, Dembele?

Personally on the wings and through the middle, where we have options I would be looking to rotate to try and become less predictable, play Johnston, Christie from the start more hell against St Mirren why not bloody Scott Allan. Give teams something to think about. At least Christie and Johnston will be direct, Allan maybe play a through ball or two.

What's your thoughts and how do these sideways passes get changed especially when playing against 10 men behind the ball?

15 Sep 2018 11:54:27
We seem to be practicing for playing superior teams in Europe . How often is Forrest, one of best attacking players picking up the ball 20-25 yds rom our own goals . We need Forrest and probably Sinclair up within 20 yds of opponents goals as soon as the ball gets there and before 8-9 defenders get into position. I think Rodgers is trying to get his best eleven shoe- horned into his first eleven . That's why he went 3 at the back . and that is why he plays Rogic and Mc Gregor, that just doesn't work .
My biggest worry and I really hope I am wrong but I am sure K T is carrying an injured shoulder, he is restricted trying to squeeze or push his way past opponents . An operation could take at least 15 weeks to recouperate.

15 Sep 2018 12:05:50
We will soon have Sinclair, Johnston, Arzani, Morgan, Forrest and even Christie who can play wide; however BR is so set in his ways regarding one wide man (Forrest) and KT doing a double shift, that we are very predictable and pedantic far too often.
I also feel that the only time we see both Griff and Eddy together is when we are maybe chasing a goal and it's usually one up front, which again is easy for opposing defenses to crowd-out.
I understand that he must play Eddy after paying so much for him, but I also thing LG is a confidence player and needs a run in the team to get up to speed and sharpness and he is definitely not an off-the-bench impact player to be used as and when.
OK, We have lost Dembele, but Sinclair, Griffiths and Edouarde have more than enough about them and need regular games, especially when Rogic, McGregor and A. N. Other is off form.
I know Ajer looked uncomfortable last night, but we have more than enough defenders to permutate an effective 3-5-2 in the SPL, but as I mentioned below, we really need to really 'up the tempo'.

15 Sep 2018 12:58:08
Brendan had planned 2 strikers this season. Eddie and Dembele that plan is up in smoke. Don't know if he will go with Eddie and Griffiths long term. Neither Eddie or Lee are good at playing lone striker.

15 Sep 2018 14:37:34
Happyhoops Griffiths scored most of his Celtic goal as the loan striker including 40 in one season.

15 Sep 2018 19:24:24
Correct but when you watch someone of Dembeles quality playing the role you can see the comparison. Leigh is a good striker for us and has scored a lot of goals.

15 Sep 2018 19:52:48
Did dembele score 40 in a season playing the role like?

15 Sep 2018 21:26:33
Kev come on man, Griffiths had a good year

What’s the starts since then. He shanks almost every effort recently and can’t keep fit for any length of time.

I actually feel that’s he’s regressed due to the injuries and whilst I hope he gets back firing - I simply don’t see it happening.

15 Sep 2018 21:33:45
No your kidding on if you think Leigh is the same quality as Dembele. He scored 40 15/ 16 season playing next to Commons (commons playing in the hole) . Also when you play for Celtic you can't keep dining out on 1 great season. He is a good spl player and I'm glad he's ours but IMO he's not a lone striker. As proved many times when we venture into European competition with him playing up front himself.

It's football everyone has their opinion. HH.

{Ed007's Note - In season 2015/16 LG made 51 appearances to Commons' made 33, LG played 3918 minutes whilst Commons managed 1968 minutes - 9 mins short of half LG's game time - and Commons assisted in 12 goals all season, even if all of them were assists to LG that would still leave him with 28 goals.
2 of LG's early season goals came against Malmo in the CL qualifiers while Commons was an unused sub in that game - so that's 2 more games Commons didn't help LG score - and in the previous round LG scored one over the 2 legs against Stjarnan and Commons didn't make either squad, randomly a few months later LG scored 2 against Ross County on the 8/11/15 while Commons missed the game with "a knock"... do you see where this is going?}

16 Sep 2018 09:30:48
Never said how much commons played only where he played (Thanks for the fact though) . Never said Leigh wasn't a lone striker Just pointing out it was a different systems system to Brendans. If people are happy with Griffiths playing lone striker fair enough.

I have my own opinion. I take it I'm aloud one. One thing is for sure Leigh hasn't hit that spectacular goal tally since.

15 Sep 2018 09:50:30
Very fustrating performance and result. they had a small team and their tallest player gets subbed after 73 mins. the first long ball into the box finds christie in acres of space. then in injury time boyata goes route one and again griftthis trying to play off the shoulder finds plenty of space. i feel we missed a trick there because they were all over the place with the high balls into the box. although edouard was quiet not all his fault, you never ever take off your main striker when looking for a goal, especially replacing him with someone who isn't really a striker. that's 5 transfer windows brendans had and we are practically playing with ronnies team still, who everyone now knows inside out. we are far too predictable. where as across the city 15 new players maybe unpredictable might go in their favour. the way i see it planning out will be similar to their 9 iar season when we took more points off the other 10 teams in the league but still lost the league due to losing 12 points out of 12 in our head to head meetings. in short i am a worried celtic fan but i still think we will get 8 iar. after all that, in brendan we trust. HH.

15 Sep 2018 13:32:00
Broony, Forrest, Griffiths, Bitton, Lustig, Rogic and Izzy (first time around) were signed even before RD arrived, (as were the likes of KT and CM who were youth dev) , so there are quite a few 'old hands' still at the club including the Deila signings like Boyata, Gordon, Allen, Christie and Simunovic.
I know a few of the above do not play regularly, but they are still picking up wages and you can pick a full team from them.
It's certainly surprising that BR has not totally rebuilt a side in his own right and maybe part of the reason we are getting stale and predictable, but it has to be said that we have also signed some real flops in the last few years, even since the NL days and our most recent recruitment methods - or lack of them needs to be completely reviewed and improved.

15 Sep 2018 15:06:06
Agree to a point once a bhoy, the team is looking a little predictable and it seems the way to restrict celtic is to pack the midfield and defence and ask us to break them down and we don't have the pace or trickery across the team to do it. Sinclair is at least direct and was so good first season as he was u known quantity, we don't seem to have that bit extra to open teams up.

15 Sep 2018 21:58:35
Leon bhoy, You are a bit harsh on Brendan relying on Ronny 's players . First Brendan's strong point is motivating players to reach new levels .
Right up to the second last day of his fifth transfer window Brendan had the best striker since Larsson available and remember Brendan was the final reason why Dembele signed for us.

15 Sep 2018 08:52:17
The failure/ difficulty to break down these packed defenses has been on the increase since last season; so has the lack of goals.
The worrying thing for me, so early in the season is the amount of players that are not performing to the levels we know they can.
It was there for all to see against Sevco, where the woodwork and goalie saved them from a hammering, but against Hearts, Hamilton and in the CL qualifiers against AEK, we were nowhere near what is expected and usually early season, we are much better.

BR has to take some of the blame for tinkering and failing to replace/ drop guys that are ineffective or just plain rotten.
Rogic and McGregor should have been hooked at HT for example.
The slow build-up and sideways passing just plays into opponents hands, giving them time to regroup and organize a packed defense.
We need much more pace and drive in these situations as the strikers are getting no service; but I am sure the manager and players must know this?

I know there were other factors last night, like the International break, a Friday night KO and playing a poor team 'pumped' up by a new manager with nothing to lose, but these are not excuses for the poor play, Ntcham's self destruct button or the result.
There is also the undeniable influence of the establishment, who are all too willing to take the inituative to influence games.
We saw it at Gorgie Road, Collum's blind spots against Sevco and that wee rat Dallas last night.
Again, this is no excuse, as it has been there for generations and can be overcome or neutralized by playing at our best consistently.

The season is still very young and at least we have sorted out the leaky defense (4 clean sheets in a row) , but we do need to work on sharpness, tempo/ pace and especially set-pieces as we will face many similar obstacles on the road to another successful season.

15 Sep 2018 09:38:50
OAB

Excellent post nail on the head. Don't know if it's a bit arrogance in the team. For some reason or play is slow and predictable against so called weaker opponents.

The amount of point's we dropped at home last season due to this is frightening. We are the best team in the league. Just seen to go through the motions to often.

15 Sep 2018 09:48:25
First time poster here, after watching the games lad that season and the start of this season I'd agree it's the tactics 100%, our players are far better than any other in the spfl but when we spend 60min accumulated passing the ball around our defence then to brown then back to defence it's embarrassing, that is a tactic used if your team isn't as good as the other team to waste time then counter we don't have to go that we are better, we should be playing a 4132 formation against Scottish teams and stacking as fast as possible we used to smash teams 5or 6 nil now we are lucky to win by one goal and it's because of tactics, I think Rodgers is a great manager but he is the one that has to change we are not playing in the pl so his old Liverpool tactics need to be dropped as the opponents are not of them same quality if he doesn't change then I'm afraid we will struggle and he will have to leave for us to progress.

15 Sep 2018 09:49:48
The main difference I think we can point to in our more fluid and penetrative performances of yore is Scotty starting. Yes, his form has been shaky and defenders seem to have sussed him out--but just having to worry about him, and Tierney in combination, probably means they have to stretch their resources a bit more at the minute.

Didn't catch the game yesterday: how did the new loanee look at centre back?

15 Sep 2018 09:51:10
Good post oab the lack of creativity and goals is getting worrying how can you have all those good attackers on and not score. young eddy needs to start playing as well, just hope the weight of expectation with the price tag and the mousse leaving isn t affecting him, and a few others need to sharpen up big tam another one, might be time to give the griff a right good run of games and get the goals flowing.

15 Sep 2018 11:18:18
The bottom line us we have no one who can consistently beat two players to create space. It’s a sideways pass, a run to the line usually ending in a piss poor cross nowhere near any of our players. It’s as if they just hit it and hope. The players in the box too seldom get in the right place or anticipate where it’s going.

Every team will play against us like St Mirren, getting a player who has that ability is still the priority and here we are with still noone in who fits the bill.

Maybe Morgan can step in because Forrest can’t do it enough. Arzani seems to be out in the cold Lawell project, I don’t buy the fitness rubbish about him.

Seems like another complete waste of time and if the situation doesn’t change, he would be as well going back then loaned out to a club who will give the boy at least a feckin chance.

Anybody know what’s the situation with Morgan.

{Ed007's Note - Yeah the last 3 Melbourne City managers and the Australian manager were all lying when they said Arzani would need time to adapt to a new country and way of life, work on his fitness etc and to eradicate the bad habits he has picked up - the reasons that City sent him up here.
The only people who seemed to think Arzani was going to immediately become a first -team squad member were a small minority of Celtic supporters who either can't read or that think people go about saying the complete opposite of what they mean.
Maybe we should just release Morgan, I'm not buying this injury rubbish about him, he seems to be an out in the cold Congerton/Rodgers project and he would be better off being released so he can find a new club in January, that's now 8 months Morgan has been a Celtic player and Marvin Compper has played more than him.}

15 Sep 2018 11:49:50
I’ve never said he should be a definite first team player. But, coming on as sub now and again to see if he can step up should be looked at. Why bother bringing him in if we aren’t going to give him a chance?

We are woefully short of players who can beat more than one player. We need a player right now. Arzani it Mirgan are the only two who have a chance to change our dynamic. One is injured and one allegedly has attitude and fitness problems. Played in the WC but not good enough for our league? Do me a favour.

Last night again showed how we can’t break down a team who will probably be relegated. Piss poor and we need to try something else pretty feckin soon, especially with us embarking in the EL.

{Ed007's Note - Arzani will get his chance when he's ready and fit, wouldn't him being on the bench make him a first-team player?
Who's alleging that Arzani has attitude and fitness problems, that the first I've heard of it? Arzani just needs to build himself up to play a full 90 mins - something he has NEVER done in his career, he played 1252 mins over 24 games in Australia, that's an average of 52 mins per game. As a comparison, Tom Rogic played 1113 mins over 17 games (avg. 65 mins per game) at the same age as Arzani for Central Coast Mariners.
Arzani managed to play for 60 mins over 3 games at the World Cup - so who said he isn't good enough to play in our league and why are they connected? Boyata played for a team that came 3rd at the World Cup and a lot of fans want(ed) him sold because he isn't good enough for us, the same with Lustig.
I've already covered this umpteen times and explained why it would be a while before we see Arzani in the first team so there's no point me going over it all again.}

15 Sep 2018 12:23:46
Not wee Forrest biggest fan but was only one taking a player on last night. Nothing was coming down the left wing. Tierney was poor last night. Thought bringing Sinclair on out there would have stretched their back line.

Team needs freshened up. Be it with squad players getting a chance or new signings in January. Lack of scoring opportunities is alarming. Out with hun game.

15 Sep 2018 13:13:02
I read on here that his fitness was a problem that he has had in the past. If he needs to adapt. Adapt to what actually? Doesn’t every player going to a new club have to adapt? It’s not as if we are a completely different culture. We speak the same language, there are similar cultural norms here as exist in Australia. Is it his attitude? What does that mean? He doesn’t apply himself? Well, if he isn’t given a chance it’s hard to understand how he can put that right.

I’m just dussaoiibted that a player who looks to have something special isn’t in the EL pool especially as we can all see that losing Moussa Oaddy and Armstrong we are weaker.

Last night we huffed and puffed to no effect. Pack out the defence and we have no one to unlock that. No one. I won’t be holding my breath for the January window to sort that, so Arzani and Morgan for me are the only options. Give them a chance and if they aren’t buy someone who is.

15 Sep 2018 13:30:15
Morgan is just back from injury so he'll get his chance last night was to soon. Arzani patience is needed we trust Brendan will know when he's ready it was the same when rogic came in he took a while. al admit a thought he would have been ready a bit earlier due to the fact he played at wc but was ignorant to his development thought he was further on.

17 Sep 2018 01:09:17
I am sorry to have to say it, only an person could blame Brendan for tinkering .
It's unbelievable that any sane person could post that . Celtic have a mammoth amount of games to play, at least two per week except when nearly the whole first team squad are away on International duties . I remember in the 1960's the great Jock Stein regularly changed his team and formation .
I heard many criticise Jock for many things but never for being a tinkerer.

15 Sep 2018 01:36:04
Someone on the live chat a few weeks ago described tom rogic as the Australian paddy McCourt.
Nail of the head.