Celtic Banter Archive September 15 2015

15 Sep 2015 22:35:47
The much publicised problems with our club recently is down to our formation I would change it to 352 back to Martin ONeill era . any1 else got ideas I'd have Gordon, simunovic,mulgrew, Blackett in middle , lustig and armstrong right and left wing backs creating a solid defence if under attack bitton brown and either johansen and commons slightly forward and griffiths and ciftci upfront giving griffiths some support and a target man to play off of. 4231 is getting stagnant and their needs to be a change. our squad is looking thin in attack lawell needs to loosen the purse strings or get to **** enough is enough.

15 Sep 2015 23:43:03
would put Allan in instead of Johanson

15 Sep 2015 23:54:25
If we play like that i'd swap lustig with mulgrew and play janko. That lad has great potential and should be given game time!

16 Sep 2015 01:11:37
Why anyone would still want to include Mulgrew in the first team is beyond me, the guy would be a liability in the development squad never mind the first team.

It's not the formation that is stagnant it's the players within it, Ronny is just trying to move with the times some of the best sides in the world use this formation and it works. What Ronny needs to do is bring the guys in that can play his formation/system suitably and effectively enough and drop guys like Mulgrew and Brown who can't do this, it's clear as day they're not suited to playing Ronny's system so they need to drop out. Add to this they are poor footballers to begin with but when you also add to that they've been here so long things are just going a bit stale now, they've lost their hunger and desire imo as has been evident this season on the park. When you add other poor footballers like Boyata to the mix, alongside GMS, Johansen and Gordon who have been poor and it's a toxic mix and asking for trouble. Ronny's got the players to play football a lot better than we are currently, the attacking areas need work and some new signings but he could still make a more trustworthy winning team out of us domestically if he would just stop pandering to some certain players, those being Brown, Boyata, Johansen, Mulgrew and GMS for starters. If there five guys dropped out we'd see a dramatic improvement in performances and results, without that happening, even if one of them are playing then the system will be flawed and Ronny will have only himself to blame for the outcome. He's fighting for his job and currently there's no way that he can trust these players to save him.

15 Sep 2015 20:36:53
Could we play for 4 3 3.??

If not what formation do you think suits the players we have!

15 Sep 2015 21:15:53
How about 3 5 2?

I had been thinking it for a while and someone mentioned it a few weeks back. Lustig, Jozo and 1 other from the bad bunch of Boyata, Mulgrew or Ambrose as the back 3. Janko on the right. Probably Izzy on the left. Any 3 of our 95 midfielders and a front 2 of Griffiths and dare I say it, Stokes who always plays better with a partner.

Just realised how bad our squad actually is!

15 Sep 2015 21:25:27
Hi mate, we were actually speaking about this last night. I would try a 3-4-2-1, similar to what Liverpool have tried. I would play Lustig(right centre back) Simunovic(sweeper) and try Blacket at left centre back, - supposedly he plays centre half or left back, I've only seen him at centre back, but he's highly regarded down there, and left footed, and he's only played one game so people slating him already really should sort themselves out. I would try Izzy(who as we know can't defend/is appalling in the air) as left wing back, and Janko on the right, who once again seems to be neither right back or right winger. I'd stick with Biton/Brown as the sitting midfielders, and play Armstrong and Johansen behind Griffiths. I must say though that this has to be the worst Celtic strike-force we have had in my 30 years going to games. Even in the dark days we had guys like McClair/McAvennie/McInally, after that we even had the 3 Amigo's. If Griffiths gets injured we would be as well shutting the stadium, and we haven't brought a kid through that plays up front since Maloney, it's a total embarrassment!

15 Sep 2015 21:43:50
Quite similar to my thinking Niall, - a back 3 would suit Lustig, that's for sure, and Izzy should never play in a back 4, he simply can't defend the back post, the worrying thing is the coaches haven't worked on this, he has been a first choice under different managers. I wouldn't even have Ambrose or Stokes on the bench though, big Efe seems like the salt of the earth(unlike Stokes) but he is not even close to being good enough. I like Deila, his ideas, but persisting with guys like this just give his critics ammunition, and make me wonder what is going on. I would also have guys like Nesbitt on the bench before troublemakers like Commons. If players don't have enough about them to respect the manager, and work and train harder then let them train on their own. He isn't doing it for a joke, he is trying to make the players and club better. It's like when you have left school, you always look back and think I should have knuckled down, these players will do the same. All we hear about is them having a short career, if they can't train like other athletes then it tells you about their character. Rugby league players/boxers would p1ss all over these guys.

15 Sep 2015 21:54:42
352 would be my favoured formation
Gordon
Lustig boyata blackett
Janko brown johansen Bitton Izzy
Griffiths ciftci
Hopefully Rd gives us a change in formation we have become far to predictable no team that plays 1 up top are winning anymore

15 Sep 2015 22:13:45
I think we all agree 4-2-3-1 works if we have the right players. With squad we have I think we should keep it simple 4-4-2.

15 Sep 2015 22:39:53
If Mike Bassett was our manager we would be playing "four, four, f$$cking two"

16 Sep 2015 08:37:28
Good point Liah. I sometimes wonder if they train with imaginary balls as well when I see some of the play during a game. Hail Hail.
As Brian Clough said at half time at Derby when they were getting beat (no half time team talk and he appeared for two minutes) "My fault lads, I picked the wrong players."

15 Sep 2015 18:45:30
So Euro footy is back and I am not looking forward to Ajax.

I fear for Rd and the players if we are humbled. Last time Ajax tore us to pieces and they have improved since then.

15 Sep 2015 19:06:46
It is going to be a nervous few days.I really hope that we can at least give a half decent account of ourselves.The Board are at fault for a lot of things,but cannot do anything now,it is up to the players and the manager to try and pull the rabbit out of the hat,at least if only for their own self respect.The manager has to change his tactics,the players have to bust their lungs to try put a little respect back into themselves and our Club

15 Sep 2015 19:49:18
I agree with your post apart from ajax have not improved they have the same problems as us they should be in the CL they went out the round before us

15 Sep 2015 15:53:36
In my opinion were short upfront so it's Samaras they should be getting till the end of the season. He's on a free and it's a wee boost the club needs right now. No brainier I reckon.

15 Sep 2015 16:44:25
He'd be better at dealing with all hose long balls than LG. As much as I think we're missing a wing forward I'm jyst not sure about such a move. Reeks of desperation but then again we're pretty desperate! Would he accept PL's offer though lol?

15 Sep 2015 16:56:10
You've got to be kidding. We need a goalscorer and he ain't one. The fans would be on his back after a couple of games. I think some people have a romanticised memory of him in the hoops due to him being a nice guy and his relationship with wee jay.

15 Sep 2015 17:34:47
Henrik we can't sign a goal scorer until,January by which point our situation may have deteriorate further. At present we only have one forward at the club worth a start

15 Sep 2015 13:31:07
I have never been Delia's biggest fan but all the fans calling for him to be sacked must face facts, firstly he was a Lawwell appointment and him and the board will stick with him, I agree some of the football being played is poor and the manager must carry the can, but one defeat, away at Pittodrie, always a difficult venue for Celtic and coming so soon after international break, is not a disaster. But to bring in someone new would set us back again, I for one will continue to back the team and give everyone connected with Celtic Football Club my full support. hail hail

15 Sep 2015 14:27:59
Tim mate a was one of the people who doubted his appointment but towards end of season a was enjoying what a was watching but this season so far have we played a good game atal. Not one conceding almost 2 goals each game continue to play one up front ok in Europe with the one stricker but spl we should be playing with 2 up top a good manager will change tactics during games if its not working he dosent sticks to 451 formation. Players who are not in form still get picked every week Gordon Johansen brown to name a few. Really needs to get the finger out and change something formation or personel because the football or lack of it is shocking right now sad to say it but its hard to watch the now

15 Sep 2015 14:31:56
Hail hail tim

15 Sep 2015 17:36:33
How about these for facts

2nd in the league

Dropped 5 points in seven games

Out of the champions league again

RD said judge him in a year, it time for the bell to toll

15 Sep 2015 17:47:51
Timalloy I support Celtic not a manager or not a particular player. Not having confidence in a manager is no different from not having confidence in a player. So posters who critisise other posters for not getting behind the manager is just daft. Do all the posters have 100% support for all the players? Of course not so why is the manager any different. If you critisise Pedro are you criticising Celtic Football Club? If you critisise him are you any less of a supporter? So by criticising an emotes of CFC we are not supporting the club? How does that work? Managers, CEO's and players come and go. I think RD is out of his debth. I think Ambrose is a poor player, but that does not mean I am any less of a Celtic supporter because I don't 100% support a player or a manager. I have seen many managers come and go and even more players come and go. I just would like the two that I mentioned to join them.

15 Sep 2015 18:22:13
Totally agree johnnymac think majority are in same boat right now

15 Sep 2015 18:33:51
Hi Tim hope you are well mate, but who did you really expect to appoint RD lol.