Celtic Banter Archive September 15 2011

15 Sep 2011 23:30:43
Thought forest was a man down tonight, he was walking around the park marking nobody. Wilson at full back wasn't much better, surely they both won't start on Sunday. Why do Celtic try and sit back and defend in Europe it's a game that is totally alien to them and they just can't do it. Another nearly story that ends the same way....defeat away in Europe. I'm sure most fans would prefer to go away from home and have a right go at teams. Decent display from big sammy tonight......enough for a start a castle grey skull on Sunday?

I thought Atletico obviously watched the Motherwell game cause everytime Forrest got the ball they put 2 and sometimes 3 men on him.

Mark

I bet their manager couldn't sleep for worrying about James Forrest

15 Sep 2011 23:03:18
Beginning to think this Europa League might be a hinderance rather than a bonus. I know the financial rewards are great but don't think we are good enough to compete, and are never going to win it. The players are going to be tired after tonight and this will have a bearing on Sunday. Worried it may cost us in the long run if we lose the league.

We're still a better team than them, dont worry mate. and dont forget, by playing against quality teams like tonight makes players raise their game and gives them experience, so it's all good.
cant wait for sunday now:)

If we lose the league It'll be because we're not good enough not because we're in Europe and certainly not because we're tired. Just for the record I think we are good enough.

Mark

There's not much point in us being in it. We arent good enough to compete with anyone outside of scotland anymore, as we've proved with the hammerings at Utrecht and Sion. Waste of time really. Sad to say. {Ed007's Note - I can't believe this is CFC fans coming out with this! Why even bother winning the league? The CL is a waste of time too then? I bet any Rangers fan would love to have had any European football this week.}

I was gonna have a rant at your post but I think Ed hit the nail on the head, you can't possibly be a Celtic fan an If you are your a Fudd.


Mark

I was a wee bit cynical at first after the Sion game but now..I'm loving it & will admit I'm glad we were reinstated ! I was actually nervous on Tuesday incase UEFA overturned their decision..

I'm a Rangers fan and i wish we were still in Europe tbh. Can't complain because we were found wanting in the qualifiers. It's been a poor couple of years for Scottish Clubs in Europe. We were doing well and punching above our weight then turned gash overnight. {Ed007's Note - I wasn't having a dig about Rangers mate, I just can't believe that fans don't want European football!}

I would have given my right nut to have been given the chance to lose last night.

Some fans need to get a grip.


Am I still allowed to say "get a f*cking life"?

daviet

Daviet you are the one open minded Rangers fan who posts on this site mate , Tony and his cohorts really need to stop living in Denialsville , i don't think its the end for Rangers , but they are not looking to healthy at the moment , i honestly don't know what will happen on Sunday , but as long as it is played fairly and without controversial incidents or decisions then no one can complain , enjoy the game mate .

Daviet ah jist mite be abul tae help ye oot there big chap in the nut remoovin dept am an expert oan thum hey ah evun cut veras aff n she disnae walk wae ah lisp anymer,
in fakt she hiznae walkd since bless her bit she stull likes tae go fur "draggies"
pp the man in the no

Name yer price Pat

Dae ye tak credit?

daviet

15 Sep 2011 22:45:07
Not so much a rumour more an observation. I thought Celtic were excellent tonight, apart from the two errors for the goals. As the game passed celtics confidence increased and we showed we can compete at this level. Ki's decision making and drive with Kayals battling was too much for madrids midfield at times. What lets us down is lack of confidence especially in the scots wilson, forrest and mulgrew. They never have confidence in their ability in tight situations.Believe and we can repair some damage to Celtic reputation in europe.

15 Sep 2011 22:29:46
i have to say, i thought tonight we handled ourselves pretty well. good performances all over the pitch, including big glenda and sammy. ki & ledley worked their socks off and the whole team can be happy with their performance. when we started the second half, dictating the pace of the game, athletico looked out of sorts, and barring a few unfortunate slips in and around the penalty area, i thought we could have scored at least once.

to be honest, i think we can take something off them at paradise, a win is certainly not impossible. if we play like that on sunday, we'll wipe the floor with them. i can see us teaching them a good lesson and keeping up Lennons fantastic record in OF games

15 Sep 2011 22:20:43
SING TO THE TUNE OF MY LOVELY HORSE FROM FATHER TED:

"My lovely Gers freeloading over in Govan,
Where are you going with your tax bill ringing in the wind?
I want to shower you with insolvency,
And drag you through court,
Sell your players every single day,
And bring you to your knees,

My lovely Gers,
You're a football club no more,
Running around with a monkey on your back,
Like a thief in the night,
Like a thief in the night."

ChrisBhoy {Ed007's Note - Father Ted was brilliant. It was my dad that told me about it. Me and Moneypenny thought Dougal was hilarious, then came Thermoman(???)

John Lennon will be spinning in his grave! Father Ted was good though!

15 Sep 2011 22:11:40
We are a poor team when we come up against quality opposition. Tonight is a perfect example of what I was saying all along......we shouldn't be in this Europa League at all. Not because of legal issues with Sion, but because we simply aren't good enough! I'm fed up seeing us getting thumped in these games.

1 win from 31 away games in Europe.....the shame continues!

ChrisBhoy {Ed007's Note - Atletico are a great team. Stronger than a lot of CL teams, as will be Udinese. There will be better teams than us get beat at Atletico this season.}

If you thought that was a poor display, you know absolutely nothing about football, or you're a snake mountain subscriber.

im happy with how we played, anif it wasnt for a few unfortunate errors and slips, we could definitely have taken something out of the game

Dry your eyes you sound like a glory hunter.

15 Sep 2011 22:03:21
ref

Seen the Union Jack flag with the word 'rangers' at the Athletico end...is this the comedy you mean ? At least if there's any bother, we will know who to blame ! And, don't say its not there - it was my rangers supporting other half that pointed it out

obviously you dont go to many European games m8 have you just got sky lol every European game the Old Firm play in the opposition fans will fly union jacks or tricolours to wind us up

Tony

Well Tony maybe your money would be better spent elsewhere this season than on the European Celtic away games...just an observation. There's wee Craig worrying himself sick about the bills and the 'supporters' and giving money away to watch Celtic tut tut

Lol the irony yesterday this tony guy was actually being slagged for not attending celtic games !!!

15 Sep 2011 21:53:17
REF
Tony {Ed007's Note - Are Rangers fans in any position to slag anyone's European record? One in how many?}

BANTER ED


Tony

Obviously tony had nothing to do tonight.

15 Sep 2011 21:02:11
still say 3 - 1 Athletico


Tony

And i still say your a muppet Tony!

DazzaBhoy

Dont give it out daz if you cant take it. what is it with you and ya muppet? Do you call anyone in your family ya muppet? Ya muppet this and Ya muppet that. lmao
baz {Ed007's Note - That is a lot of muppets Baz. Someone should do a show about them}

I can take it baz, incidently the only person i called a muppet was Tony.....so i don't call everyone a muppet.......ya t*t!

DazzaBhoy

15 Sep 2011 20:55:32
cant believe mccourt wasnt even on the bench

If you're selling him I'd have him in a second!

Needs to get fitter though...

daviet

Commons ate him aswell as maloney

15 Sep 2011 20:07:54
Madrid 1 celtic 0

the route begins {Ed007's Note - It's Atletico, Madrid is the name Real Madrid use. Route 66 is on ITV at 9 mate, it hasn't started yet.}

Now now Ed you getting touchy

Tony {Ed007's Note - Well he never even got the team right Tony, c'moan mate!! Would you stand with a crowd of Atletico fans and start singing Madrid?}

15 Sep 2011 19:28:55
ref
{Ed007's Note - How can most of the money be going into shareholders pockets when we have smashed our debt to almost nothing?}

i agree ed you are nearly debt free and as you can see by the state my club is in its not a bad thing.

but the down side of this is you are also nearly trophy free how long do you think the Celtic fans will put up with this tell me one successful team that is not in Debt

Tony {Ed007's Note -Money doesn't always buy success either Tony. How many clubs end up in trouble with chasing dreams, Leeds? And look at the over all cost of Rangers over expenditure, possible administration.}

Im in total agreement Ed money doesn't necessary mean success. the last three seasons Rangers have been relatively successful and we haven't spent much our problem have come from trying to be successful in Europe and we all know how that turned out. all im asking is how long will Celtic fans put up with not winning the League even though they are debt free. i know how fickle fans can be just look at the petition link above and Celtic fans are no different they crave success and will soon let their board know if its not forth coming despite being debt free.

Tony {Ed007's Note - It's finding the right balance Tony, CFC are closer to that than Rangers and Rangers need to get it sorted before they face expulsion from Europe when the FFP regulations come in.}

To be honest ed do you reckon that Celtics wage structure is sustainable. I would think you lot have a higher wage bill than us, with a similar income. Therefore Celtic too will have a problem when the new regulations come in.

GovanFR {Ed007's Note - The wage bill does need to be lowered but when you look at how the debt was brought down last year, without winning the league and no European income. We won't be that far away.}

If your debt was brought down by a direct capital injection from your owner then it will be a problem. Although lets not kid anyone the new UEFA rule will have lots of loopholes.

GovanFR {Ed007's Note - It was brought down through turnover mate. There will be loopholes GFR but FIFA are very serious about this, all loopholes will be closed down. Look at Man City, there stadium is now sponsored by their owners company ETIHAD (look up and see what that word means), very lucrative but also very questionable. Man Utd have recently signed a £40 million sponsorship deal with DHL for their training kit!!! If the 'big' teams are worrying it shows they know how serious FIFA are taking FFP Regs. The days of the 'sugar daddy' bank rolling their clubs and not balancing the books are coming to an end. It will still be the clubs with the bigger incomes that will be at the top of the pile, but some very big clubs are worried, even Barcelona.}

15 Sep 2011 18:13:48
Just to change the subject a wee bit, away from the tit for tat ramblings of "you're worse than us". This is for both sets of fans.
When have you been most proud supporting your team?
For me Seville is definately up there.We couldn't get a ticket so we were in the Porto park because the Celtic park was full. We must have out numbered them 5 to 1. They looked terrified when they saw how many tims there were. That all changed at full time when we congratulated them. The friendly atomsphere was amazing.
But number 1 has to be the last game of last season. Finally got the mrs up for a game. She turned from delving in supporting Celtic, to being a real fan. Knowing the league was going to our most bitter rivals didn't stop a carnival atmosphere. That day made her a fully fledged Celt. That support changed her forever. Jeez, it only took 9 years. But now she wants to get up to as many games as we can get to. And she's trying to get her Man UTD supporting dad to come up as well to, as she put it, "see a real atmosphere".
Ben Bhoy 1916 {Ed007's Note - I'm proud and thankful to be a CFC fan everyday Ben ;-)

For me it was on the way back from Manchester after the cup final, on hearing about the Death of Tommy Burns we headed to Celtic Park and was confronted by many Rangers and Celtic fans paying there respects. made me proud to be a Rangers Fan knowing that despite all the hatred between the two clubs fans can still put things into perspective.

Tony

15 Sep 2011 17:52:36
shows you how far scottish football has fallen when Rangers are devastated to be out of Europa and Celtic are Delighted to be reinstated through default and harry Redknap sticks on a bunch of inexperienced boys on the park and youth players on the bench that shows you what spurs think of this competition. i think Europe competitions should be revamped if the CL was just for Champions it would make the Europa far more relevant.


Tony

We're in by default mate but its 5mil in the bank. Far as im concerned thats buyin us a striker or creative midfielder in Jan to help us win the league.

Drew

Or like most of the money its going into the share holders pockets {Ed007's Note - How can most of the money be going into shareholders pockets when we have smashed our debt to almost nothing?}

15 Sep 2011 17:40:01
Delighted got a ticket for the game on Sunday season ticket is for Broomlands front so have to give it up at Old Firm Game message to all Celtic fans going to game please wipe your ar5e in case you are on my seat and mind and put on a good pair of incontinent pants as you will be 5hittin yourselves for 90 mins lol

Tony

15 Sep 2011 17:23:07
hey ed forgot to mention big Herman forster when talking ugly lol

Tony {Ed007's Note - Still not near Kylie mate.}

Me thinks you got the beer goggles on ed lol
big kyle on has a dogey hair cut that makes him look ugly lol

Tony {Ed007's Note - Oh God, I forget about him trying to bring back the mullet lmao!}

15 Sep 2011 17:09:38
does anyone know how early I'll have to show up at Failte in Glasgow on Sunday to make sure I get in, normally go elsewhere but heard in there is good for a game but you need to show up early.

Thanks in advance.

15 Sep 2011 17:02:54
Bhoys any decent links to watch this game ?

In Texas here

15 Sep 2011 16:47:08
Tony, I have seen Liverpool site, gers boy is getting pelters, but post I liked was "how do you know it was a Rangers fan who posted it" second poster clue 1, He TELLS you! aaghh ha ha
Tony was that you that asked the question?YNWA
hail hail Timalloy

15 Sep 2011 16:35:07
Ref

In fairness to Laff he is only 23, still plenty time to improve. {Ed007's Note - 23? I would want to see proof of that. He must have had one hell of a long paper round!}

Hey Ed how old do you think you would look if you had a paper round in Belfast lol

Tony {Ed007's Note -Well at least he could scare the dogs away from him with a smile.}

I dont care how ugly he is as long as he puts a couple by you lot on sunday lol.

ps talking about scaring dogs how ugly is "im not an Elephant im the Celtic Captain john merrick i mean Scot Brown lol"

and as for Neil Lennon come on Ed his Mug should not be shown on tv untill after the 9pm watershed i know rangers have a few beauty's but Lenny and Broon are in the same league as big carlos cuellor when it comes to looks lol

Tony

Tony {Ed007's Note - Still nowhere near the realms of Kylies ugliness. Does Cuellar still do a drag act as Barbara Streisand?}

That big clown laff would get his money back oan the ghost train

viewparkbhoy {Ed007's Note - Evening VPB mate.}

15 Sep 2011 16:12:29
Afternoon Ed007, just in and reading the posts, not getting drawn into anything. Ed007 about YNWA I was a Celtic Park 1969/70'ish v Benfica I think, and whole park was singing it, hair on the back of your neck time Superb. I know Celtic are supposed to have an affinity with Man Utd, but I think a lot of Celtic fans like me have a bond with Liverpool fans, I think it is the two sets of fans have the same type of wit and humour in making up songs and chants.
I was about 14 when Lisbon came about, too young too appreciate it, but I loved our attacking style of play and wee jinky, also loved european nights in the jungle brilliant.
Billybhoy, Tony, Germinator, Daviet how sad to hear you never go to watch other teams, maybe we Celtic fans were spoiled by our displays, but it instilled in me a love of good football and when Ajax with Cruyff, Benfica Euseibio etc were in town I went to watch these teams, whether at Celtic or Ibrox. I suppose all you bears with your closed minds would not appreciate Cruyff or Eusebio at their peak but we Celtic fans did, even if we were getting beat we APPLAUDED these players for their skill. That is what a Celtic fan does and why we are welcomed around the world we EMBRACE the other team's fans and enjoy the challenge. Hail hail Timalloy
Ps saw that bear on Liverpool site ha ha if Carlsberg did Irony! Glad to see LFC fans gave him pelters {Ed007's Note - Cheers Tim, like I said the first time I remember was the Hillsborough match, maybe just the occasion made it stick in my mind, I was only 14/15 at that time and time can cloud your memory (auld yin)}

Aye i foget the amount of times u guys appluaded gazza and laudrup lol !

the only other team iv paid money to see are pollok juniors . and tbh the level of football aint that different from professional in this country. I didnt know that a fan is judged on how many games he can afford to go to

Germinator

Tim/Neil or whatever your name is today

Get a grip!

NOWHERE have you heard that I don't watch other teams.

You're lying again, aren't you?

Just like the time that you posted that I told somone to f*uck off. Still waiting for the proof....

Why do you make up this nonsense? To gain acceptance from your peers perhaps? I guess that's why you send little "congratulatory" posts to them when they say something funny?

Shame really...

You're becoming an embarrassment to your own support now...

daviet

...and for the record,DUFC fans ALSO applauded the opposition fans (after the 1987 UEFA cup final).

They were awarded a sum of money for their trouble which allowed them to build the fair play stand.

Did you know that? Didn't think so...

I was at that game too.

daviet

15 Sep 2011 16:01:27
hey Neil T read your comment about the Rangers Fan making a T1T out of himself over on the Liverpool page went over to have a look you should to and see what the liverpool fans think of the Celtic both the OF are getting it thick and fast

Tony

I thought you guys had a close relationship with Liverpool someone better tell the Liverpool fans lol

Tony

Ha ha Tony, that is sad, answering your own posts, aw will no one talk to you hee hee Timalloy

Think that may have been an imposter, maybe 1 of your lot Tony, what do you think .lol

Mark

Hola Mark!

I reckon the original poster was a certain CFC fan pretending to be one of us.

Then the LFC fans got involved.

I think it's safe to say that a couple of RFC fans joined in pretending to be CFC fans in an attempt to try and "balance" things out

Pathetic really.

daviet

15 Sep 2011 14:48:55
Good luck for tonight, as a nation we need you to do well.

GovanFR {Ed007's Note - Cheers mate.}

Nice to read some sense for a change

15 Sep 2011 14:20:13
got me Magners in got me munchies in heard there is a cracking comedy show on Espn at 8 o'clock tonight looking forward to it lol

Tony {Ed007's Note - Magners Tony! Are you allowed to drink that? Remember it is an Irish company, I'd hate for you to lose your season ticket mate.}

Lol ed i suppose ur drink is a blue wkd?!


ps ed if u wanna delete that last one then fair do's i understand if its a lil to close to the bone but its all in good humour.

Germinator {Ed007's Note - I'm a connoisseur of the fine wines of Devon. I think I will delete that, funny though, ya bam ;-)

Hey Ed im not that type of bloke dont have a prob with anything Irish welsh English etc refused to buy the wife a Celtic ring ( pronounced Keltic )right enough just cause its spelt the same lol what do you think the score will be tonight im going for 3 - 0 /3 - 1 athletico but what do i know i lost £10 on Celtic v Motherwell put on a draw

Tony

Tony {Ed007's Note - I'm pinning my hopes on a draw Tony. If we get that I'll be delighted.}

Here is the other "friendly" bear, until someone disagrees with him and then profanites come out ala daviet.
Tony, I asked your fellow bears go on your gers site and try and have a serious debate, you cannot because all you get is guys like you with closed minds calling us names Neil T

Awww can the big boy no handle gettin called names ..... u do know we all have one .... urs is Neil now run along mr offended .....
Germinator

No worries chief lol ...... i knew you would get it .. some wouldnt, so prob for the best ... god knows what would have been said !

ps just thought to myself bout the comment of how celtic fans are worshipped all over the world .......

aye apart from the country your from (if ur paranoid support is anything to go by) :oP

ps ed laughed my a%% (can i say that Neil !) at the scheme 2 remark !

Germinator {Ed007's Note - Cheers mate.}

Still waiting for your proof Neil!

Still waiting...

daviet

15 Sep 2011 13:48:24
Yes ed. How you lad? Great to see all talk about Celtic is European football and the bluenose t**ts is all about administration haha. If carlsberg could do dreams haha. I was wondering ed who was the first team to sing You'll Never Walk Alone?? I know liverpool say they started after Gerry and the pacemakers but I heard that Celtic sang a different version from a play call carousel are something like that.. Anybody have any information? Bigirishmac {Ed007's Note - The song comes from a Rogers and Hammerstein 1945 musical called Carousel. It has been sang by Elvis, Sinatra, Judy Garland, Bob Dylan and of course, Gerry and the Pacemakers, amongst others. LFC adopted the song in the 60's. It is hard to pinpoint when CFC started actually singing it but I always seem to tie it in with the Hillsborough Memorial match (older fans can correct me on that no problem). Feyenoord and FC Twente also sing it and I have seen/heard it sang at Borussia Dortmund and at St. Pauli matches. There are probably other teams that sing it as well, but nobody does it as well as the CFC fans!}

You would have to look yourself , but it is sung in tic games from late sixties early seventies . i have heard it on you tube in matches from that era

15 Sep 2011 12:49:11
Guys go on Liverpool site there is a bear on there asking what You'll Never Walk Alone has to do with football. He is SERIOUS and as our ed says he cannot see the Irony of a Rangers fan asking that with all the rubbish they sing ha ha you could not make it up. No doubt BB1, germinator and "cordial" daviet will defend him ha ha ha Germinator now that is DUMB! hail hail Neil T
PS BB1 yes I love football and before my illness I used to go to a lot of european games when I could, Ibrox, Tannadice as well as Paradise. Funny my football loving gers pals would never go to Celtic park with me. Difference is we Celtic fans LOVE football and watching good teams, gers fans too blinkered to enjoy the messi's, etc.. of this world as they dont play in blue. {Ed007's Note - I've just read the LFC page. I see he got a warm reception. Where's that idiot that said we were 'despised'?}

Neil.

Can you explain why I would defend him?

He sounds like an fool to me...

daviet

Ok so why would a gers fan decide to pay for a celtic game, give the team that are his greatest rivals funding and support ...... especially when 9/10 there is a gers game that weekend and you get to watch a team of champions?!

ps i aint been on the pool site so have no idea what ur talking about ...... to be honest i dont really care !

Germinator

Thats why I wouldnt go to Parkhead Neil because I love football aint going to see any there am I? lol

Billyboy1 {Ed007's Note - So how's Edu and McClugger getting on in midfield? Has Big Laugherty (The Govan Greek) realised it is football he is playing yet? His second touch is holding his big head in his hands!}

Guys guys guys!

I learned a LONG time ago NOT to wind-up their ed...!

It makes things difficult. And makes you look like a chump.

daviet {Ed007's Note - ;-)

Yawn. "We Celtic fans love good football" ??? Thats a bit like saying turkeys love christmas. If you love good football try and support a team that plays it. I've seen Samaras. Thats all I need to say.
However good luck tonight (see Rangers fans can be decent. Don't believe the bitterness that seems to flow from certain persons on this site)

You are not implying as a fan of your lot you are used to free flowing football? wee messi summed your lot up perfectly"anti football"

I reckon CFC might get a doing tonight.

Would be great to get a draw though.

Best of luck

daviet

15 Sep 2011 12:21:56
A bit worried about tonight as we have a bad record in Spain (and a few other places) plus the good balance we had on Saturday is lost obviously due to tactical reasons and injury, but also because we signed a 'cup-tied' left back...
It is a very hard place to open our group campaign and I hope the Bhoys fight for the jersey but stay calm in a hostile stadium and get a result.
But if they don't it's no disaster MON had a much more experienced and talented team a decade ago and they had a few hard nights away in Europe.


Jinky Fan {Ed007's Note - Well said JF.}

15 Sep 2011 11:53:31
Whenever rangers fans go away in Europe and cause trouble there is always an excuse instead of weeding out the instigators

Manchester big telly did not work
Villarreal Celtic fan with rangers tops on
Osasuna police were heavy handed oh and Chelsea casuals
Can't remember what team but chair throwing because turnstiles did not open in time
Psv sectarian chanting hidden agenda of group who filed complaint catholic leader
Every time different excuse
Oh forgot to mention domestic abuse went through the roof last season after 2 old firm games that rangers lost

I agree. 100%

This is one of the main reasons I despise Martin Bain!

Instead of hiding behind "the great name of Rangers" or "the great traditions of (our) club" he should have been scanning CCTV footage of certain hardcore elements of our support (you know who I mean). Get them out and keep them away! Why would I want to take my own daughters to Ibrox when there's offensive, sectarian bile raining down from the stands? Probably for the same reasons "the world" abhorred South Africa during the apartheid era....

This type of behaviour and the offensive terminology are no longer acceptable.

I still don't fully understand the reasons for my support singing "God save the queen" and "Rule Brittania". Can we stop it now?

But, to be honest, these types of posts are getting cumbersome now. I think we all agree that our clubs need removed as far as possible from religion as possible.

daviet

Totally agree davie,while im a hoops fan my youngest son from a previous relationship supports rangers so took him to ibrox for a game and it brought home to me how deep rooted the bile is when seated among the support with the comments that are made individually and not sung by the whole support.

15 Sep 2011 08:33:28
Billyboy1, Germinator, it is not a "minority", look at manchester and it is everywhere Rangers go there is trouble, it is time all you rangers fans realised this. Neil T (ps before my illness I used to run a supporters bus, any time a celtic fan stepped out of line, us Celtic fans stopped it, with rangers fans they video it and put it on youtube and revel in it that is the difference)

To the nameless poster of the above - there was around 200,00 Rangers fans in Manchester for the Final. Around 60 arrests were made so how can you say that is not a minority?

Billyboy1

Billyboy, what a stupid comment to make, we all SAW the rioting and more than 60 were involved. Sadly only 60 of you idiots were caught and charged. You sullied the name of Scottish football that night, just as you do every time your "fans" go abroad. hail hail Neil T

The Post aint nameless, some mess in Manchester those 60 people made.

Mark

Yes well my mate was in Seville and he saw a couple of fights break out amongst his own fans but stats say there very very few arrests .... so we go with the stats ... stats say that 60 people were guilty of rioting in Manchester ............................. hmmmm celtic fans are welcomed everywere tho eh Neil ....... the Athletico press seems to think other wise ...... im sure i would welcome a team that refers to us as "Scum".. However in saying that heres hoping you lot can get a result tonight .... cos jeez does scottish football need it ! {Ed007's Note - There is a bit of a difference between 'a couple of fights' over who's round it is and 60 people getting done for rioting. I've got a mate that was in Manchester and said Rangers fans behaviour at the big screen was a complete embarrassment to the club.}

Sorry never seen the name. If you look it up reports suggest there were 39 arrests on the night but there were more after it i'm taking a rough figure of around 60 overall. I never mentioned how many were involved I was in Manchester that night and the section I was at the atmosphere was great all day. I'm not condoning what happened but out of 200,00 fans that were there 200 maybe involved in the riots rough figure thats a minority. Neil T your a mug if you think all Celtic fans are well behaved. Take your head out of the sand. Both clubs have a small minority of idiot fans at least i'm big enough to come out and say it. Take the green specs off.

Billyboy1

Can Celtic supporters just ease off on the bile please. Its like a broken record going over and over and over the same tired old song.
Why don't you brighten up a bit and enjoy your night in europe.
Good luck and enjoy the event.
Just leave "juan guy" at home and be an example to the world for Scotland.
The real fun resumes on Sunday when the team you love to hate beat you again!
Blue Knows
PS Visiting two good stadiums in 4 days will be a nice wee change for you as well.

Sorry ed forgot to put my name in .... i was talking about couple of fights in Seville .... im not even gonna try to compare the two my point was that u cant take opinion as one side in arguruement but dismiss stats and vice versa .... ie Neil T (although im sure he is tryin to wind up as i cant believe there are fans as genuinely dumb out there !) lol trust me i aint got any "beefs" with ya chief well maybe a couple but not on this debate lol !

Germinator {Ed007's Note - No worries mate. Too much time is spent watching what the 'other side' are doing rather than worrying how their own club is being portrayed, and the press LOVE it!}

Billyboy1, "rough" figure 200 involved ha ha, it was on television, EVERYBODY saw it, riots ALL OVER MANCHESTER, Thousands involved, police attacked and nearly killed, innocent people caught up , because rangers fans cannot handle defeat. I too have seen Rangers fans close up, my gers pals used to get me tickets for euro games in copland stand, and I saw WHOLE STAND pour out sectarian bile, so BB1 I KNOW what I am talking about. Your fans are not called Scotland's Shame for no reason Neil T

Ok Neil gimme the games that your talking about u went to at Ibrox in europe ............ im fed up doing the tit 4 tat stuff id like to think im above it, however we could both type stuff that fans of our clubs have done in the past that just would not get published on this site so give it a rest and ust focus on keeping those crayons within the lines....

Germinator

Sigh.

As I previously posted there are MILLIONS of RFC and CFC fans throughout the world. It therefore is logical to state that it is a minority of fans who cause trouble. I would also go so far to state that our minority's are far smaller than the "ultras" in some of the eastern- bloc countries.

RFC have a bigger "problem" than CFC with an element of their respecitve support. I don't know how much clearer I can be about this!

But Neil, for you to state that CFC do not have a problem is a little wide of the mark. Even your own Ed disagrees!

daviet

Theres no point in discussing it with him Germinator and a Celtic fan going to Rangers games? Bit weird. Neil T time you took your head out the sand mate Celtic fans are no angles neither are Rangers fans but at least be big enough to admit it. I could troll through the internet all day bringing up things Celtic fans have done but it bores me. I'd rather discuss the up and coming slaughter of Celtic at the home of the Champions.

Billyboy1

RFC fined £149k by UEFA over the past 5 years. This includes the £80k fine last year our fans being banned for away travel.

CFC have been fined £147k by UEFA over the past 5 years for fan's behaviour.

daviet

ps. I make a point of NEVER saying "FACT".

I would say most Celtic fans are angels but you're right some are not...wee devils. Unfortunatley the FACTS are, when Celtic played in the UEFA cup final in Seville we received an award for best fans from UEFA and well without spelling it out ..Manchester made front page news all over Europe (and it wasn't because a British club won).

Celtic might well get beat on Sunday without a crystal ball..I don't know. But, it will be Neil Lennon's 1st defeat there if thats the case..Mmm wonder if Ally will fair as well roll on 28th Dec ! (Don't even get me started on this old firm meeting being a Wed night between xmas & new year)

I don't understand the context of your post.

The posts above by RFC fans are admitting the problems your mentioned.

Then you go on to state "well, but, and another thing", while mentioning the same point.

Can you explain exactly where you want us to go with this?

daviet

ps still waiting for that post Neil...