Celtic Banter Archive January 15 2014

 

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15 Jan 2014 23:21:07
Alryt ed long time veiwer few rumours about lee Griffith's I personally do t see why celtic are going for him I don't rate him at all and I don't think he would fit into celtic at all hope these rumours are not true

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15 Jan 2014 23:12:50
Hi ED, Do you know if this new boy Johansen comes fully fit as I don't know when the Norwegian league finished? Is he in the squad for the weekend or is that too soon for him?
BTart86

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{Ed007's Note - Johansen hasn't played since mid-November and has said it will probably be next weekend against Hibs before we see him playing.}

15 Jan 2014 22:21:56
Ed - wondering if you have any inside info regarding the futures of Ledley & Samaras - Is it possible both will leave this window. Ian L

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{Ed007's Note - I do expect Samaras to leave and wouldn't be surprised to see Ledley go as well. Ledley's partner is wanting to move closer to her family so it looks like the ball is in her court rather than his and it does look as if Johansen is Ledley's replacement.}

Was thinking that myself when Johansen signed. If I'm honest I won't loose any sleep over Samaras or Ledley leaving. Ledley doesn't turn up in big games when the chips are down and samaras has been living of the two goals at ibrox 3 years ago. Ian L

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{Ed007's Note - I won't be happy about Ledley leaving but I won't be overly upset about it either. I will be glad to see Samaras leaving, I thought he had turned it around but he is away as bad as ever.}

If I am totally honest I expected a lot more goals and star man performances from Ledley as I saw him like a Stan Petrov type of player.
However, I don't think we miss him too much when he is not in the team and we have enough cover in midfield
I do hope we get another creative player - like a faster Commons or younger Lubo - and a proven striker though, especially if Samaras is off.

JJ

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Ian L did he not perform in Europe last season score in many ties so living off 2 goals at ibrox is pishtalk the bigman has been a good servant to the club is capable of destroying teams but has no interest anymore


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15 Jan 2014 22:14:44
When will people realise that the likes of Leigh Griffiths are not the answer to our striking problems? Yes, he scored tons of goals for Hibs last season and is pretty good at scoring from anywhere, however, he reminds me far too much of Anthony Stokes. Griffiths is not good enough to play for Celtic in Europe. Speaks volumes that he can't even get in the Scotland squad after how well he played for Hibs last season. Celtic must aim higher and show some ambition to bring the fans back to Parkhead every week. Yes, it may be difficult to bring in someone like Alfred Finnbogason, however, there are plenty of strikers out there that will consistently score goals for us and are good enough to play in Europe. To make progress and get back into the Champions League next year, the club MUST show ambition.

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@OP totally agree, the Club has to show some ambition here and Leigh Griffiths? I'm not keen either, at all!

I know Neil Lennon has come in for some criticism (deservedly so) but I'd like to see if he can rebuild this team, get the fans back and win the treble next season with CL football. I do not think my expectations are unrealistic. But no Leigh Griffiths ~ Mrs E

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There's no question he can score goals, but he is a loose cannon, trouble always seems to follow him. Jbhoy

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Not getting in the Scotland squad says more about wgs blinkered loyalty to playing certain systems, than it does about griffiths undoubted ability as a goal scorer, and I don't understand the clamour for finnbogason, look at that guy rip van winkle or what ever his name is, who was supposed to be so good before he went to norwich, ambition for some people seems to mean you spending an awful lot of money on someone who might just not be the man for celtic.

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@OP - let's hear your suggestions then

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Can't believe the comments of some fans regarding leigh griffiths the lad scored 20+ in a p1sh hibs team and we have stokes and pukki who can't get anywer near that between them. Who are you all wanting us 2 sign? let's be honest we can't attract big name players anymore i'd be more than happy if griffiths signed I may be the only 1. Jbhoy scott brown and lenny wer loose cannons but didn't stop them signing and becoming fans favourites. Everyone bangin on about finnbogason (spelling) but he's not proven either yet everyone is dying for him 2 be signed look at the amount of strikers came out the dutch league after scoring a barrel load and struggled - van wolfswinkel, altidore, bony for example yet your all slating a guy whos proven domestically and at least should get a crack at cl level or we will never know if he can hack it or not. Dunno who u all think we can sign fs

GunnieBhoy

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When buying a striker, its always a gamble, they are more creative and instinctive, than the rest of the team, you could take a gamble on a younger guy and hope it turns out right, like it did with hooper, it was a mistake to sell him, or go for someone who has proved himself, like fletcher, I would take him, but only if the price, and the wages are right, but I think I would bring mcgregor back and just tell him to score goals.

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Gunnie, I've not mentioned his disciplinary on or off the field.

I don't see why Hooper couldn't be replaced. they had plenty time and as much as I liked Hooper, I cannot fathom that he is this irreplaceable.

I know more about Kris Boyd than I do about Finnbogason and had never heard of him until his name appeared in the paper with links to Celtic.

Leigh Griffiths doesn't fill me with excitement, is he scoring in League One?

I know the reality of Scottish football and the players we can attract is not great. Wanyama for me was the huge miss in the group stages of the CL this season. I thought Brown or Kayal could have filled his gap but sadly that was not the case ~ Mrs E

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To the posters going on about van wolfswinkle he was the talk of England before he got injured and is just back as for the Dutch top scorers who haven't done anything van nistleroy kluivert huntelaar Suarez Ronaldo Luke de Jong every league has players like altidor who don't do well you could probably go on with the strikers who been good or great players to come out of the Dutch league and Leigh griffis defo isn't the answer I agree we don't need to be held to ransom by herenveen but there are other good goal scorers out there

Hoopybhoy

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Mrs E totally respect your oppinion that u don't rate him highly and wouldn't like to see him sign that's your oppinion a just feel for 1/1.5m the lad is worth a risk considering some of the dross we have bought upfront when this lad is proven that he can score 20+ domestically. He's been on the bench the past few months with wolves don't know the reason but that's why he's not been scoring. But again totally respect what your saying us as fans can't always agree on signings plus would ruin the banter if we did lol

GunnieBhoy

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Hoopybhoy who are these other strikers that we could get realistically lol? how many fans have screamed for jordan rhodes past 2/3 seasons yet he's only played league 1 and championship level so why would he be a better signing than griffiths? btw no slating jordan rhodes a would take the lad in a heartbeat am just provin a point about people saying griffiths wouldn't be good enough yet rhodes def would even though he's not played at a top level

GunnieBhoy

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For me it's a catch 22. We should be getting a quality, proven goalscorer at decent level in. However, the kind of player we should be going for is the kind of player that a club shouldn't want to lose in january. No?

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Griffiths does make the scotland squad! He led the line as the lone striker in the first win against croatia! Whether he is good enough to play for celtic in the CL remains to be seen! Certainly not the worst striker we've been linked with this Jan that's for sure!

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Just my personal opinion I don't think he is good enough for celtic don't get me wrong he's a decent player but how many goals has he scored this season in league 1

Hoopybhoy

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Gunnie, totally respect what you are saying too and appreciate at the moment we do not have a goalscorer who can score in the Scotland never mind anywhere else – by that I mean the CL qualifiers and hopefully poach goals in the group stages.

Listen if Griffiths did sign and I’m wrong about him, I would be delighted to be wrong. let's just say it’s a signing I would be wary off, he seems out of favour at a League One Club.

Rory, he did start against in Croatia but it was Snodgrass that scored and was subbed in the 2nd half for Rhodes.

Just feel we have scouts and its their job to get us a goalscorer, they’ve had plenty time. Maybe Tony Watt will mature and Balde will step up- who knows ~ Mrs E

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Mrs E - so we just wait and see if balde & watt step up to the plate, not a great plan is it?
The scouting of strikers is absolutely abysmal. Look back over recent seasons and see the amount of money squandered on loanees, contracted players. Minus Hooper name one other success.
Stevo Dundee

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Steve, its far from a great plan but Celtic are paying their wages and if they don’t start playing and scoring soon then get them off the wage bill surely?

The problem is obviously attracting decent players to Scotland and it only seems to decline a bit every year. Every transfer window leaves me feeling meehhhh

I enjoy going to watch Celtic though, sometimes its great and other times not so much. Only last season we were in the last 16 of the Champions League so its not all doom and gloom.

Many a Club across Europe would love that opportunity ~ Mrs E

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If Griffiths was called Di Griffio or even Gustavsen and had long flowing locks of hair and a foreign accent we would see people on here begging for him to sign. Instead he is a wee ugly Leither who lives his life his way and doesn't give a Sh** about what people say or think about him. ( not condoning any negative behaviour) but I admire people who are not influenced by the PC brigade. Anyway back to football DeGriffio would be a decent signing. His record is plain and there for all to see and its impressive. I don't care if he is a pratt as long as he is an honest one. Sopotcelt.

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Sopotcelt, my favourite player at the moment is Suarez! Part of the PC brigade I am not.

I do not care what the striker wants to call himself, hitting the back of the net on a regular basis and being able to raise their game that bit higher in Europe will do for me.

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A general point Mrs E. Not directed at anyone. You PC? never crossed my mind. Perish the thought! Sopotcelt.

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Sopot, God forbid we aren't PC these day. Hung, drawn and quartered offence and of course if you aren't PC, you are a bad person!

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Mrs E - end of day, money talks.

We all know the current problems in bringing the next level in terms of quality to Glasgow. If it means increased wages for 1 or 2 then so be it.
Before the usual comments start flying in about ending up like a defunct rival I'm saying 1 OR 2 PLAYERS IN KEY AREAS

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Gunniebhoy, I don't remember Lennon or brown having as much off field stuff as griffiths, from conning uncles to stealing ice cream from kids, the press would have a field day with him. Jbhoy

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15 Jan 2014 21:54:47
Aw naw, fat sally not happy again. Everton sell jelovic & sally wants to implement the selling on clause in his contract and get money. But bad Everton have said "we bought him of Glasgow rangers, who no longer exist" they still don't get it do they.

Ayrshire bhoy

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This will be interesting will they sue in the courts for the cash the same way they fought for the naismith McGregor etc players who never tuped overs transfer fees. oh wait a minute funnily enough they didn't fight for that in the courts? I wonder why? Lol

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This could be funny ab what's that old saying if you give someone ehnough rope lol . Suppose the big question is though would it hold salary mcoist??

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15 Jan 2014 22:37:05
Ad to that the sentanta money

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15 Jan 2014 18:53:05
Listening too Snyde and Frank Macca came out with a cracker.caller on suggesting that celtic should look at catagorising the ticket prices depending on who they are playing so you would pay less for match v btm 4 side than second place etc. Macca says so the next game v The Rangers will be £5. lol class Macca

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Debt We're Newco
Titles We're Oldco
Punishment We're Newco
History We're Oldco
EBTs We're Newco

RIFC summed up in a nutshell

CSC on Tour

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15 Jan 2014 18:48:12
People keep talking about homegrown talent + the same names keep popping up. But realistically, how good are these lads and how good would this team be?

GK:?
RB:?
LB: Andrew Robertson (Dundee Utd)
CB: John Souttar (Dundee Utd)
CM: Stuart Armstrong (Dundee Utd)
CM: Callum McGregor (Celtic) CM
RW:?
LW: Gary Mackay-Steven (Dundee Utd)
AM: Ryan Gauld (Dundee Utd)
AM: Dylan McGeouch (Celtic)
FW: Billy McKay (Inverness)
FW: Stevie May (St Johnstone)

In my opinion it's a middle to bottom of SPFL Premiership team.

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15 Jan 2014 19:38:29
Don't think anybody is suggesting a team full of them.If our youth teams continually win the leagues and cups then they should be better than the rest no need to sign others. A think 3 or 4 of the youth team should regularly getting game time.

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That's the sensible thing MB, but I've seen clowns on Fb, etc saying homegrown talent could produce another Lisbon Lions, etc. I agree there should be 3-4 youths getting starts second half of the season!

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Billy McKay was born in England and plays for NI.

MgC

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@MgC He's still a homegrown talent, born in the UK and playing in Scotland.

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I'm always a bit cynical as well HB, suppose if we use Forrest as an example (I might get shouted at again) but Gary MacKay-Steven is older than him, Stuart Armstrong only 8/9 months younger and Billy McKay is 25.

If Forrest is too old to be considered a 'prospect' then surely most of these players are as well.

I do like Armstrong though and do think he will continue to develop. I wouldn't be too disappointed to see him at Celtic.

Scottish football is needing a complete overhaul from grassroots level. How in the past have we produced players such as Kenny Dalglish and as you say, the Lisbon Lions? ~ Mrs E

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I think in every spfl game there should be a rule there must be 6 scottish players in every starting 11 no one in scotland can really afford young scottish talented players bar celtic so this would make every team use their youth systems producing there own crop of young scots wit yous think would this work? Thoughts?

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Sppose only team in scotland that would affect is us now lol

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15 Jan 2014 22:40:15
The young players dnt get the game time to be discovered thanks to all the cheap foreigners

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15 Jan 2014 17:53:42
whats everyone thoughts on the new Bhoy johansen? can't say I have ever seen him play and all the rest of it but does come highly rated

ED do you know if we are likely to see any of the new lads this weekend?

nice shape coming into the squad with biton looking the part, hopefully will play more and drop ledley. as I have said all along balde and pukki playing off him is the way to go so I hope this isn't changed to the usual cr4p

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{Ed007's Note - It looks like Johansen won't be fit enough for this weekend against Motherwell, he hasn't played since November so it will probably be against Hibs the following week before we see him. I would say Balde deserves his chance before Fridjonsson though.}

15 Jan 2014 20:12:29
@Kieronbhoy and ED007 the boy Johansen comes with a good reputation so hopefully he will do the business. I also think Lawwell has played a blinder here, we sign a player for about £2m on maybe £20k a week, if Ledley and Samaras are sold he recoups his £2m plus saves another £20k in wages. Also by playing all the new players in Turkey Celtic (and Lawwell) now have fans saying give these players a chance.
I can see Boerighter, Balde, Pukki, Biton, Fridjonsen and Johansen all getting games until end of the season hopefully bedding them in for our CL qualifiers.
I will be surprised if a big name striker now comes in January as Lawwell will say we need to give these players a chance.
ED007 is that how you read situation also, or do you think more signings are still possible? Timalloy

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{Ed007's Note - I have never thought a striker would be brought in this window Tim but I think there could be more signings.}

15 Jan 2014 12:05:10
Hi ed how do I contact u without it going onto the page?

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{Ed007's Note - Just send it in like a normal post and I won't post it up on the site. If you want a private answer then include an e-mail address.}

15 Jan 2014 11:33:54
Did you all read the reports in todays newspapers that "an Ostrich was seen running at 40mph on a motorway near Tunbridge Wells".
Well if YOU supported Sevco, you too would be running away. lol Timalloy

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15 Jan 2014 00:07:16
Im not obsessed but I like to see what others are thinking. (friends close, enemies closer sort of thing - not meaning enemies in any strong sense but rivals puts them on par which I don't accept right now)
Every other post is about signing this guy or that guy. Yet, their share prices are heading subterranean, their mouthpiece is imitating the proverbial rat/sinking ship and their board and potential investors are all in fighting and sniping. what gives?

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They invited the devil to the table and he is dancing with them. Sopotcelt

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Because the sites called Celtic Rumours, not Sevco Finances. It should be Celtic chat, not about some irrelevant tribute act we've never played and probably never will play cause they'll be out the game and starting as RFC III soon!

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With regards to sevco, I couldn, t believe
stewart regan in todays dr (The rules of
game have to be carried out in a fair and consistent manner.You can, t have one rule for one club and another one for another).You couldn, t make this up
what an embarrassment for scottish football this govern body are.jimbhoy.

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@Sopotcelt: They invited the devil to their table, he ate everything and now has them bent over it ready for the final push. As the late great Bill Hicks once said. suck the devils c*ck!

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Jedi warrior I am afraid I cannot comment further, due to common decency. MTFBWY. Sopotcelt.

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