Celtic Banter Archive February 15 2016

 

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15 Feb 2016 21:34:25
I know it's a sign of the times praying Aberdeen slip up but I will take it If result stays this way I may even need to listen to ssb on snyde tomorrow night just for gits n shiggles just to. listen to the mcinnes panderers still trying to big up the title challenge? 🐑 this must give our squad a boost.

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16 Feb 2016 00:06:56
I was a little bit disappointed that Aberdeen slipped up again. I would rather if R D were given a tighter race right to the end of the SPL as it would stand Celtic in good steed next season .
Things are really coming together for R D, he now has centre defenders 3 maybe even 4 that look the part . . In midfield and attacking midfield it looks as we will have an abundance of top class young players who should be really exciting to watch especially from next season . We probably need another striker but Hopefully if we sign one he will turn out to be a goal scorer like L G.

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16 Feb 2016 00:41:37
Good positive post OB. Totally agree. Assuming the Svia/ Simo partnership works, a RB, a Striker and most importantly, a goalkeeper would finish off an exciting squad.

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{Ed007's Note - Hopefully Janko gets fit and kicks on to challenge for the RB slot.}

16 Feb 2016 01:07:12
Good point Ed - totally forgot about him!

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{Ed007's Note - I know people that have seen quite a bit of him from his time at Man Utd and they all really rate him. A lot of people were surprised they let him leave.}

16 Feb 2016 01:46:55
I mind that being mentioned on the Utd page- and a lot of people felt that he may have wanted to go given the people ahead of him in the pecking order and the purchase of Darmian, which is fair enough. I know he had a bit of a meh time at Bolton but they were struggling.

I remember he was one of the few to come away with any credit in the away game against Malmo.

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{Ed007's Note - Apart from the GK, RB is my main concern for the team going forward, I don't know if Fisher has any kind of future with us and as I've said I think this will be Lustig's last year.
Did you see Darmian "limped off with a shoulder injury" at the weekend? Who knew an injured shoulder affected your walking!}

16 Feb 2016 09:57:03
I would love to be proved wrong, but I'm afraid I can't share the optimism about this current squad.
What I see with this group of players is a side who are good enough to beat the run of the mill teams in Scotland but anything better than that, then we struggle.
I thought that Saturday's match was typical, in that we played a team with very limited ambition, and we laboured to a win, it was a deserved win, but wasn't great to watch.
I think this is the level of this team, we are good enough against Hamilton, Partick Thistle, Ross county, etc. but when we play anyone tougher like Aberdeen away, Malmo away, or even a semi final at Hampden, we are badly lacking.
I would also like to see the manager being a bit more imaginative with his tactics, he rigidly sticks to the same formation every match, but opposition teams know exactly how we are going to play and seem able to snuff us out, these teams are generally not good enough to actually go on and beat us, but because they are able to frustrate us there is not a lot of entertainment in these games.
I don't see why we can't play 2 up front in some games, make our opponents think a bit more. If Leicester can be top of the English Premiership playing 4-4-2, then I can't see that we wouldn't benefit from it, at least in some matches.

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16 Feb 2016 09:58:13
Inverness are no mugs and we will have a hard game on Saturday.
It's natural to want to see any rival drop points, especially when we are still not firing on all cylinders and have a soft centre.
I know we - at last - have the makings of a centre back pairing, but Gordon is a liability and was unconvincing again against Ross County last weekend and was bailed out by defenders a few times.
A win against John Hughes' team, would be a great boost for the team and support - no matter what the result at Firhill on Friday night.

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16 Feb 2016 11:50:02
I saw that ED. Something's not right with Darmian. He came in and, I thought, he started really well. Now, he's been shifted left/ right (which is in part because of injuries to Rojo and Shaw) but struggled to look anything like the player he was in his early months let alone in Italy. And then, as you say, he limps off with a sore shoulder ;)

TBH I didn't even see the game on Sat and only got the score as I was en route to Celtic Park. Grim times. I think in some small way, what's going on at United has (and continues to) put perspective into what's happening at Celtic. United have lost their identity and are now scrambling for one. The team is (relatively) poor and the football is dreadful. It's got to the point where I'm hoping the opposition score early to force us to open up and go at them. Thick and thin and all that but these are tough times at Old Trafford.

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{Ed007's Note - They've messed up both appointments since AF retired and appointing a dinosaur like LVG was never going to end well at Utd. His arrogance and stubbornness only alienates players and over the last few years they've wasted millions on average players like Smalling and Blind and over the hill has beens like Schweinsteiger.}

16 Feb 2016 13:35:57
gerry, absolutely nothing if what you said is wrong, being brutally honest that's pretty much how it looks. It's all about having the patience. I think we will see two strikers played time to time. We could argue about favoured formations all day. But you just keep one eye on the 4-2-3-1 of Spurs or Arsenal ;)

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16 Feb 2016 14:26:56
Jim Tim, I've got no problem with his favoured 4-2-3-1 formation, I just feel that opposition teams are so used to us playing it that they are now finding it quite easy to stop us. I would just like us to be a bit more flexible at times so that opponents have to think a bit more, and don't get into a comfort zone against us.

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16 Feb 2016 14:52:14
Jim I have been very critical of RDs 4-2-3-1. Not because of the system (tho I would like 2 strikers) but simply because we don't have the players to play it.
Arsenal, spurs etc do that's the difference, this is why I think R D is a poor manager/ coach.
What kind of manager plays a system that clearly doesn't work for us?
What kind of manager plays that system no matter what?
What kind of manager doesn't want the best out of the players he has?
He plays this system DESPITE knowing it doesn't work with the players we have.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
Why wudnt any manager want what's best for his team?
Its because of his stubbornness to force this system on us that we are playing so poorly, players are not using their natural abilities and too busy playing to the system or are played out of position.
If u want the best out of a player
1 Play him in his best position.
2 Get him fit.
3 Get him mentally ready.
Its not rocket science.
Look at Leicester a team full of journey men so to speak. But Ranieri has them fit, plays a system that works, and gets the best out of them. And they fight for everything. Can we honestly say we play like that? Especially considering how poor the opposition is.
That's how u put a team together, another of R D s failings, he can't get his team right there is no balance to it.

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16 Feb 2016 14:56:33
If we had a couple more players capable of beating a man or better at one touch passing I think we'd be a lot less predictable and break down teams. This is why I think Roberts will eventually nail down a spot and we'll see plenty of Christie.

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16 Feb 2016 22:11:50
Rayman, is making a lot of presumptions to back his stubborn argument . He talks about R D stubbornness yet he displays the same trend in his posts, day after day week after week.

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17 Feb 2016 14:15:39
Chris do you expect me to change my opinion because you don't agree with it lol.
Get a life mate.
Answer this question honestly then mate. Do you think we have the players to play this system?

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15 Feb 2016 21:30:22
Bit strange the ajer singing. i thought it would have to be a pre contract. so a bit surprised a fee is involved. glad all the same tho.

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15 Feb 2016 22:14:13
Belfast the sad thing is this. Another midfield player. Why have we got 20 midfield players on the books? We are only signing this player because we think he might be worth a few bob in the future. We are not buying him to make the team better. This is why we are going wrong. We need to start to buy players to improve the team and stop buying players because we might make a profit on them in the future.

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15 Feb 2016 22:34:12
But do we have a "proper" CDM?

I think this what we are missing to be honest a sitting player not venturing beyond the half way line that is what is killing our chance in Europe anyway IMO.

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16 Feb 2016 00:03:45
I agree johnnymac . i'm not aganst buyn young cheap potencial. but its got to be mixed with players who are ready to progress you to the level of your ambition (champs/ lge)

Although i'm happy at getting him. can't help think he's a replacement for biton. and he may not be ready. backwards again anybody?

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16 Feb 2016 00:10:10
Be due a clear out in midfield think Mulgrew has to go can't see who he will dislodge from the team maybe consider loaning Allen out to a premiership team if he doesn't get much more game time. Anyone know how long Commons has left on his contract? Forrest too has done nothing all season again. Boerigtter will be gone. Still leaves a lot of players in midfield. Can see Stokes and Ciftci being punted as well possibly Scepovic too? Anyone else people think should be moved on?

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16 Feb 2016 00:11:22
I don't think any successful team will ever turn down the chance of buying a real quality midfield player. I gather this young fellow is special and if he is we are right to sign Ajer,
It's better we secure him now, even it means us spending £800k, rather than risk losing him.

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16 Feb 2016 10:02:21
I know we have a glut of midfield players, but I think one or two will leave or be loaned out in the summer and although I have not seen him play, he seems to be well thought of in reports?
I sincerely hope we turn our attention to a first choice goalkeeper and let Gordon 'retire gracefully' as it would be better all round.

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16 Feb 2016 10:37:04
I reckon we had two choices:

1. Pay a modest transfer fee now to secure the transfer.

OR

2. Wait until summer and try and get him on a free but run the risk of someone getting him before us.

Personally speaking I am glad we paid the fee and made sure we don't lose out. One added bonus of signing him now, is that we can get him 6 months earlier and he may be able to make a contribution to our next CL qualifies.

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16 Feb 2016 11:37:11
Rab Mac every time we sign a player we are all optimistic that he will be great. Sadly the signings to date tell us that we are not signing anyone who makes a positive impact. He is only 17 so I don't expect to see anything of him for a year or maybe 2.

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16 Feb 2016 13:06:28
I am actually optimistic about this one Johnny but only time will tell if my optimism was well placed or not. Not many players this young play that number of games, score that number or goals and also captain their club, all for a team in the top division of their country.

Being realistic I think most of us know that we no longer have the funds to make big signings or pay crazy wages to sign the finished article. The only way we are likely to get a top class player is to either sign them before they become stars or sign someone with issues and hope we can turn that round.

Yes it would be nice if this were not the case but sadly for the time being at least, this is the route we will be pursuing.

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15 Feb 2016 21:02:25
Sign of the times checking the aberdeen score hoping they slip up cringe or what : ()

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15 Feb 2016 23:10:48
I am sure there are loads of Arsenal, Man City and Spurs fans sitting doing the exact same with Leicester results.

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15 Feb 2016 20:10:36
On the subject of showboating does anyone remember big Morten Wieghorst at Pittodrie in the late 90's when he put a cross over with his left foot behind his right from away out on the right wing right onto Regi Blinkers napper for a goal. I'm sure I never dreamt this but have never been able to find any video footage of this.

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15 Feb 2016 20:36:21
Stevie I do remember that! I had a season ticket and he did it right in front of me! He was a very under rated player in my opinion!

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15 Feb 2016 20:41:48
I remember that it wasnt long after his comeback from the ilness he had.

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15 Feb 2016 21:06:31
Just found it on youtube ,he wasn't as far out on the wing when he crossed it as I thought and it never went on Regi's head it was a shot, crackin bit of skill tho.

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15 Feb 2016 21:10:07
Cheers Jim Tim }

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15 Feb 2016 22:27:29
Would love it if we went back to that formation or something similar.

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15 Feb 2016 23:13:48
@Gordo87 - That is easily resolved, all we need to do is bring Barnes back as manager.

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15 Feb 2016 23:24:19
Lol that team was rubbish but I would still have vast majority of those players ahead of what we have now!

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16 Feb 2016 00:22:22
Fair enough Marty.

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16 Feb 2016 10:39:04
I don't actually remember that rabona from big Morten. However, I do remember a game against Aberdeen where Johnny Doyle got red carded for crossing the ball into the box.

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15 Feb 2016 20:10:03
Watching the aberdeen game great first goal. fast incisive clinical everything we would have loved in a goal. They are agressive closing down high up the pitch moving the ball at speed all we were promised under RD. We are in a title race and are not guarenteed a win.

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15 Feb 2016 20:38:11
Like a game ain't over after 7 mins. A season ain't over in february. I'd just stick with the guy who has us top of the league for now.

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15 Feb 2016 21:23:49
Aberdeen humped, yet again.

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15 Feb 2016 22:10:06
"We are in a title race. "

And 83 minutes later, the race was over.

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{Ed007's Note - It's preposterous that anybody gave Aberdeen any realistic chance of winning the league.}

15 Feb 2016 23:33:50
Agreed. This is the third title race we've had this season.

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{Ed007's Note - I can just see the papers tomorrow how McInnes should be sacked, Aberdeen should be too good when decisions go against them and how Aberdeen spend 3 times the money ICT do, do you think they'll recommend that Allan Stubbs or or racist clownshoe Malky MacKay should get the Aberdeen job?
They were choking for Aberdeen to win tonight and Friday night against Partick to go top of the league. Sadly the media - and people within our own support - were left disappointed.}

15 Feb 2016 23:52:13
I dunno - they may be a bit busy saying how we've bought (yet! ) another young midfielder. omitting the fact that he's one of the hottest young talents in Europe, having played (and captained his club) in his country's top tier. If we can tie up Ajer I'll be ecstatic.

But you are right of course: McInnes will go forth (after saying the ref was conned) and will be forgiven for such failing whilst heralded for the work he has done thus far; the title race will rumble on/ start again the next time we (dare! ) drop points - and the media, and those within our own support, will jump back on the bandwagon.

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{Ed007's Note - Speaking of Ajer did you see this?

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35583165

Why would they report that RD "recommend that the player be offered a long-term contract" rather than the CFC manager offered him a contract? Reading between the lines I suspect RD doesn't have the final say on transfers.
Who'd have thought it! :-o

16 Feb 2016 00:22:23
Ha brilliant spot! I'm sure people will find a way to explain it away at the next RD bash but for now, let's just enjoy the silence!

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{Ed007's Note - But... but... but.... we didn't qualify for the CL AND he's not playing Scott Allan every week!}

16 Feb 2016 00:25:35
Ed007 . Our supporters will still find reason to ridicule R D and try to maintain the feel bad feeling and keep the players and fans confidence down.

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{Ed007's Note - I'm sure they will, I don't doubt it for a second.}

15 Feb 2016 18:47:44
Ha ha Garrybhoy looks like I have upset your perfect little world, are you related to Sacktheboard lol
Just to clarify matters, at 18.57 on 13 February I posted "thank goodness for my football bets as they are compensating me for my rotten horses"
If you read all my posts as you clearly state, you will see I always man up when a bet loses, and as you say most of my horse since January bets have indeed lost. Luckily my football bets are keeping me afloat.
I do not know if you are a gambler or not but it is possible to win substantial amounts on the horseracing depending on the bets (and the amount) you put on. Last year at Cheltenham thanks to big price winners and placed horses I did very well, how did I do it you will no doubt ask. I placed each way Lucky 15 or Lucky 31 bets, depending on which bookmaker you use, you can get treble odds for only 1 winner and also guaranteed best odds on all bets placed in Britain. It is possible to have 4 LOSING horse bets but still win big if they are all PLACED, eg 4horses at 20/ 1, place odds of one quarter equates to 5/ 1 so you are in effect getting 15 placed bets at 5/ 1 (say you do a small each way Lucky 15 at 50 pence, meaning 30 bets total £15 winning over £400 for just being placed yes the maths guys will know exactly the amount but this is just a wee example) With your first big win it then gives you money in the bank to try bigger bets. At Cheltenham fortunes can be won and yes lost, but if you are canny with your money you can have your cake and eat it and set yourself up for the months ahead.

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15 Feb 2016 19:15:41
Tim I've been dircted by ed to the gambling site and I see nothing there to disprove my theory of your year unless I'm missing something. You post a lot of football bets English Scottish and Spanish and whilst you get a turn with your Spanish all I ever see is losing Scottish and English bets and have never agreed with your theory that your Spanish bets cover it all. Especially when your Neymar Suarez messi big bet does t come up all that often. Look mate you haven't upset my world and I wish you nothing but well I shouldn't even have posted what I did. I've just been following your bets on here and I can see no reason that you would be In profit. But If you say you are that's fair enough.

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15 Feb 2016 20:26:01
Garrybhoy I will never convince sceptics like yourself, and I am sorry that your bets have lost recently, all gamblers hit losing streaks and I have posted in the past that the losing streaks always last longer than any winning streaks, you just have to bet sensibly, only bet what you can afford to lose, then if and when you win use the cash to help you and your family. When I win a decent amount I put it in my bank account otherwise I would be tempted to bet more and bigger amounts, I try and stick to my agreed limit.

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15 Feb 2016 21:35:19
Tim I'm only sceptical because my mate was manager of a betting shop for 20 years so you've no idea how many hours I've spent in a boozer listening to guys rattle on about how much they have won only to get the truth from my mate about how much they lost before they got a wee bit of it back. I'm sure your not in that bracket and your doing well so all the best to you. As for your advice to me I am not on a losing streak I just don't win simple as. So I don't ever bet big. And all the money I can afford to lose goes straight into a bank account and not a betting account. So my family are secure through my hard work and not the turn of a coin. Again I appreciate your advice mate but the gambling for me always stays very small time.

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15 Feb 2016 14:58:33
Looks like al be buying another 3 tops nix season since ther changing shirt sponsor to dafabet or wit eva its called. jus hope the shirts can hold the printing this time! My 3 tops this season have to be the worst av had for magners peeling and tearing and letters and numbers coming off. I've still got a few tops up the stair wi larsson on them still.! And that's going bk 15 year ago lol

HH

Chris1888.

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