Celtic Banter Archive February 15 2011

15 Feb 2011 23:23:57
"Kenny Miller before he deserted the sinking ship"

That's 3 times he's done that in Glasgow now!

Daviet

15 Feb 2011 22:53:41
No need to apologise Paddybhoy, I perfectly understand. Don't get me wrong, while I think it's better if Scottish teams are seen to be doing well in Europe (not just for the co-efficient but also for how our league is viewed elsewhere), I won't be shedding a tear if Rangers lose.

Lets hope I'm not shedding a tear on Sunday!

Atheist

15 Feb 2011 21:35:39
Atheist, don't get me wrong i think Brown does have it in him to be an 8m player and fair play after what hes been through, although i think as a Celtic captain, he still has some maturing to do. As for Adam, when he has had a manager who plays him consistently he is outstanding ie on loan at St. Mirren, one season under le Guen at Rangers and 2 seasons under Holloway at Blackpool. Agree with you about Bougherra, he has been hap-hazard this season, although on his day can still be our most influential player but i think he will probably fancy a new challenge in the summer. Personally i don't think theres much to choose between McGregor and Gordon, but for me McGregor just pips it for consistency again, watched Gordon have a few howlers for Sunderland.

Baz the Bear

15 Feb 2011 21:10:57
All valid points Baz. I think we are finally seeing the best of Brown. There are a number of reasons for this. He now has the players round about him that have allowed him to express himself. But I think the main reason is that he's got his mojo back after the sad death of his sister. It affected him much more than he would care to admit. But £8m? No yet.

Charlie Adam is playing out of his skin in the EPL. He nearly beat Liverpool on his own the other week. Is it a one-off, never to be repeated season (like Kenny Miller before he deserted the sinking ship)? Only time will tell.

McGregor is an excellent keeper, but not as good as Craig Gordon imo.

Not sure about Bougherra. I think his value is dropping with each passing game. But it could be just a phase.

Atheist

15 Feb 2011 20:28:39
Hey Sickbhoy hows tricks? Just been catching up on a few of your posts, great reading as always but gonna pull you up on a couple as im sure you won't mind. Firstly, i think your being well harsh on Charlie Adam. Every game i have seen him this season and in fact last season in the Championship he has been outstanding, not just against the diddy teams but running the show against Man Utd and Chelsea and i think the likes of Kenny Dalglish, Harry Redknapp and Sir Alex know a player when they see one. I reckon the reason he never made it at Rangers is purely down to the fact Walter seems almost blinkered to players with a bit of flair and creativity, preferring players with graft and bite. He almost single handedly dragged Blackpool out of a league which is as competitive as any in Europe and is consistent which i think is probably the most imporstant factor in determining a good player.

Secondly, you said something about McGregor 3-4m, Bougherra 5-6 and Scott Brown 8m? Where on earth did you get that one from? If Browns worth 8m then the boy Kayal must be worth about 40m cos in my opinion he has been far and away Celtics best player in their recent good run. I think most Celtic fans, or at least the ones i know, would have been delighted had Celtic got there money back for him last summer yet suddenly, after a few decent performances, hes worth 8m? As i said with Adam, consistency is crucial so 2 or 3 decent performances per season don't make you an 8m player, unless you play in the EPL lol. As for McGregor 3-4m? He is far and away the best GK in Scotland and at least the top 5 in the UK, not to mention hes keeping a 10m keeper out of the Scotland team so i would be absolutely gutted if we accepted less than 6m for him. Anyway, keep up the good work and the campaigning m8!

Baz the Bear

15 Feb 2011 18:38:11
Just coz ur skint don't say we can't afford players. we may have debt of 9 million , but have two men on the board who own about 40 % of celtic . they have combined wealth over 3 billion pounds, not like sir david who has lost 600m of his fortune and owes about 400 million to the bank of scotland. .

15 Feb 2011 18:26:55
Why all the hysteria surrounding what john reid were
any of you personally at the interview hoe many times does a paper take an interview and add words i would take it all with a pinch of salt

the voice of reason VIEWPARKBHOY

Typical politician spin Viewparkbhoy isn't, not really answered anything and can be taken either way. You are bang on with the papers, anything to make a headline, it doesn't need to be true, just controversy. Reid can make you cringe sometimes though mate.

SickBhoy

15 Feb 2011 17:58:43
Why don't u people go on ur own page and talk s**te C.MON THE HOOPS lookin good BHOYS lookin good

Another no name trying to drag us down to their level

SickBhoy

15 Feb 2011 17:25:03
Re: Celtic's recent financial results.

Cheer up lads. Remember, it was only ten years ago that you posted debts of almost £30mill during Saint Martin's tenure.

I think the problem Celtic have for now is that the money received for McGready is paid in installments rather than a lump sum. The £9mill debt does not include business done since 1st Jan 2011. Furthermore, a club's financial position is loaded to the start of the season, mainly due to season ticket sales. Latter payment will include ECL money and Europa league payments. Seems the early exit from Europe has not down you Bhoys any good. .

Peter Lawwell also stated " that trading players is maybe a more significant part of the financial model than it has been been before". I would be prepared for a partial summer clearout Bhoys. . .

Daviet

15 Feb 2011 16:53:01
He signed a new contract last week according to BBC sport doesn't mean we won't sign him but I think it's unlikely

the taxman

How's tricks Taxman mate I it doesn't mean we won't sign him, but I personally think that anyone who rubbishes rumours just because the player has signed a new/ improved contract are a bit deluded. Just for example say Torres had signed a new mega bucks £200,000 a week contract at Liverpool in the summer, then 2 weeks ago some one posts on here that Chelsea are ready to buy him, the poster would have got tortured and ridiculed, and how many "he just signed a new deal" replies would there be? All of a sudden IMO the price is £60 million rather than 50, chelsea wanted him, he wanted out, and the contracts only serve to push prices of players up. Like souping up a car and selling it at a profit because you fitted a body kit to it. Something need to done to find a happy balance between players and clubs, I remember players were basically treated like slaves, Jim McLean at Dundee Utd was notorious for signing 17/ 18 yr olds on 8-10 year contracts (Duncan Ferguson was a prime example, hence his £4mill price tag when he moved to Rangers), but it has swung totally the other way, with contracts not worth the paper they are written on. The Bosman Ruling went too far and The Webster ruling still confuses me. I remember Mark Viduka refusing to come out to play the 2nd half of a Scottish Cup game while KK (Klown Kenny) and John Barnes were in charge. I would have LOVED for Celtic to have had the money to say "h*** you son, you won't even play for our reserves, you can train alone and then see who wants to sign you in 3 yrs time when your contract is up and you are long forgotten". Look at Charlie Adam/ Blackpool shenanigans, Ollie came out and said he was worth £46 million if he kept Blackpool in the EPL, then yes he would be worth £46 mill to Blackpool. Personnaly I really don't rate Adam, he has went from an Ibrox whipping boy (a loud groan could be heard around Ibrox when his name was announced) to the most sought after player in England after 18 months, half a season in the EPL, and one season in the Championship. I sincerely hope that any rumours of Man Utd wanting him are only that. This guy is 26, (was in the championship team of the year as a left winger? ) had been loaned to Ross County, St Mirren and even Blackpool took him on loan (seeing him sent off on his debut) before deciding to splash out a paltry £500,000 for him. Blackpool are living the dream right now, with their "breath of fresh" tag and Ollie, who I think is a real character and I admire his honesty in interviews his occasional appearances on Sky with Kamara. His personality is helping the publics interest in Blackpool and Adam has been caught up in all the razamataz that goes along with. If Blackpool do go down, I'll put my neck on the line and say he will be sold to a mid table EPL club for £3-4 million. If Liverpool were willing to spend £35 million on Carroll £23(?) on Saurez, if they had wanted Adam that badly, IMO he would be at Anfield just now. Obviously KK or any others basically didn't thinbk he was worth it. No matter what we say on here, no on matched Blackpools valuation (which I believe was heavily inflated, partly because of the 20% sell on clause Rangers have) and he is still at Bloomfield, I don't think he will be there next year wether B/ pool stay up or not, but the price will be far more realistic and it will not be to a BIG team. If i'm wrong , I'll take the pelters, but I just can't see it.

SickBhoy

15 Feb 2011 13:02:49
Every club is a selling club. some teams can hold out for the right price like Celtic or some teams have to sell due to years of financial mismanagement like Rangers. Every single player in the world has a price on their head. It is up to the buying team to match this. Todays comments by lawell are obvious. Celtic are a buying and selling club just like everyone else.

Re: Yup as I said previously every celtic player will have a value. The only difference between celtic now and say a year ago is that the values that would be accepted will have dropped given the financial figures posted by celtic recently.

GTID

15 Feb 2011 11:48:19
Regarding john reids comments in the record

now before all the knuckle draggers get excited .
he meant if a player was coming to the end of his contract or had just over a year left then they would listen to offers .

so don't get your hopes up manky mob

Marco1888

Re: seems to me that your a little worried and jumpin on the defensive! Every player at celtic has a value . . if a team meets that value the player wil be off nothing to do with contracts. If you don't qualify for europe again then those prices will continue to fall.

GTID

15 Feb 2011 10:31:51
You really need to get yourself a sense of humour
gtid, it's clear to see, that my post was firmly tounge in cheek, ( 3 MILLION JUNGLE JIMS) But just you keep taking the bait if you want.
BITE BITE!
paddybhoy

Re: my reply was to the day trip part not the numbers besides it difficult to tell wen ur talkin drivel and sense ?! . . . keane signed yet?

GTID

15 Feb 2011 10:13:40
You really need to get yourself a sense of humour
gtid, it's clear to see, that my post was firmly tounge in cheek, ( 3 MILLION JUNGLE JIMS) But just you keep taking the bait if you want.
BITE BITE!
paddybhoy

15 Feb 2011 10:06:20
"Marc Crosas is reportedly on the brink of a £300,000 move to FC Volga."

This is on the web and in papers today. I always thought he was a good midfielder for you lot. Still, £300k and a sell on clause doesn't sound too shabby. That, and the money saved on wages, must be a good thing.

Also heard that Celtic posted debts of £9mill the other day. Please hurry up and catch us up. . lol

Daviet

15 Feb 2011 09:56:01
Davie t,
" then we hit you with the biggest travelling support thing" What are you on about DT?
That was a day trip to manchester you lot were on,
I spent a week in the algarve, then walked to seville, and met up with 300 million jungle jims, you were back in yer own house the same night, iv'e travelled further for a packet of fags.
OVER AND OVER WE WILL FOLLOW YOU!

paddybhoy

Re: so judging by your logic we will be discounting all the celtic fans that went to seville just for the day of which there were loads? what a dumb arguement to make !

GTID

15 Feb 2011 08:47:23
"What are you on about DT"

I'm on about the never-ending argument over which team was the "larger" of the 2. My point, I think I made fairly well, was that no matter which nonce makes a silly statement to try and rile the other, some other nonce will reply with an equally pointless remark over how well the other has performed in any particular competition or such- like.

I'm not going to rise to your troll over the "day-trip" remark, but I think you can see your own flaw in that statement.

As an aside, I used to attend Rangers matches but then got a life. I started raising a family and then discovered other and better things to spend my money on. That's not a dig at you Patrick, but some of us would if we could.

Daviet