Celtic Banter Archive October 14 2011

14 Oct 2011 23:05:36
Just reading some of the comments from the AGM:-

Pointing out that the Scottish Premier League's TV deal is worth just 1% of the agreement in place for England's top flight, Lawwell added: "What we need to do is to provide an environment that will provide fresh investment, bring hope and aspiration back into the game and take off.

This is depressing reading for our game, something is going to have to give, we need 'someone' to take a massive gamble. I'm not sure what the way forward is (if I did I'd be worth a few ££'s). - Chrissy

We need the EPL financial bubble to burst {Ed007's Note - That isn't going to happen any time soon.}

Oh really, ed?
Can t go on for ever, next major economic downturn, watch this space.

Brahan Seer. {Ed007's Note - If for some strange reason SKY pull out of the TV deal, clubs will just negotiate their own deals as was discussed during the week.}

14 Oct 2011 22:27:27
see people reminiscing (spell)i have a favourite moment in a game,its when sutton volleyed that belter against juve.me and my brother where in the jock stein and we both screamed "who the f*** was that" good times sadly long gone........ {Ed007's Note - Lubo in the 5-1 game was a WTF moment in recent years as well.}

14 Oct 2011 21:56:55
Anyone think McFadden might be a direct
Replacement for commons?heard all sorts
of rumours of serious fallout between him
Lenny,Thompson

14 Oct 2011 20:39:09
Timalloy can you not talk about footballing matters? The tax case will take care of itself nothing we can do to affect it. Find it amazing how yuou know more than the highly trained lawyers and solicitors involved in the case. Getting boring now. I suppose but anything to take your mind off the fact that you are languishing 3rd in the league 10 points adrift.

Billyboy1

BillyBhoy1 the only bear with a name ha ha, the fact you felt the need to post means i am winning LOL Timalloy Tax Expert ha ha

The celtic ed.can you educate timalloy on celtic fc.he never seems to discuss football {Ed007's Note - Why don't you try to educate him?}

Ha ha last week you all ran crying to Ed014 now this week the Celtic Ed007, is there any editor that can stop this Timalloy upsetting us poor bears ha ha
as the advert goes I'M LOVING IT LOL

Do you celtic supporters agree with neil lennons assesment at the agm today that celtic had a fairly sucessfull sesaon last year? {Ed007's Note - It depends what he meant by fairly successful.}

Hes got an unhealthy obession with tax..not normal surely?... {Ed007's Note - Can you get a unhealthy obsession that is normal?? It's like Rangers fans perverse fascination with anything to do with NL, now that is just freaky, we all agree he's no oil painting so where does that come from?}

Winning the scots cup i presume..it cant really be anything else.it stands to reason..im suprised at the statement.or more so celtic now content to consider winning the scots cup a job and season well done.. {Ed007's Note - That is only your presumption though. He could mean stabilising the club after Mowbray, a very close ran league, qualification for Europe, fantastic financial results, the quality signings that were made that we have managed to hold onto it, could be all manner of things.}

The ed if teh rangers win this tax case the volume of posts your gona be dealing with is gona drop by 90 per cent i rekon..theres not gona be much left to talk about {Ed007's Note - What if they lose? The Rangers site could die because there really might not be anything to talk about.}

As far as rangers and celtic fans are concerned winning the spl tittle is all that really matters..anything else is failure..unless you support the team that finished 2nd..after that its a case of trying to justify coming 2nd...naturally looking for other positives to console with {Ed007's Note - Hence the word fairly. It was CFC fans and investors he was addressing, as fans as it wasn't the best but as investors it was a successful season, the accounts show it. If you have been to an AGM it isn't some fans jamboree to sit and grill people at, there are rules and etiquette to follow. NL was addressing everything to do with the club.}

Seems to be as long as the prawn sandwich brigade have the coin rolling in then the dont give a toss weather celtic win the league or not...on a lighter note ed as we approach another transfer window whats the chances of some bawbag coming on claiming celtic should go for keane given and bellamy..lol..its near that time of the year again {Ed007's Note - Even if they do mate they won't be getting posted. As a Rangers fan does it not annoy you people going on about ex-players coming back all the time? I honestly can't see why Rangers fans would want Weiss back, singing with the fans isn't enough. A fit Cuellar I can see the point of but Wylde is a better player right now that Weiss will ever be. And as for Rino, come on that is worse than our three amigos!}

14 Oct 2011 20:12:48
evening ED just scrolled down a few post and realised that some rangers fans are talkin about chris sutton lol a least hes gettin the last laugh knowin gers fans are buyin his book LOL. {Ed007's Note - ;-)

Rangers fan here....

I have read Suttons book, not a bad read for the 10 pence I paid for a signed copy, its in the charity shops already lolol
Bosley

Yeah..but you still read it ! Glad you did your wee bit for charity :) {Ed007's Note - And who ever read it to him and tapped him the 10p ;-)

14 Oct 2011 19:36:51
Right, one of you boys need to go have a word with NL this evening. He has lost me 2 accumulators in the last 3 weeks quite frankly its not on.....surely a win away to Kilmarnock isnt too much to ask for?

TK-Red

14 Oct 2011 19:34:12
ref

Good to see Lawwell condemn IRA singing


you will have the same problem as us mate the club condemn it but still some morons will try and sing it the worst is the away fans they seem to think they can do what they want

Tony

14 Oct 2011 18:46:21
Evening Ed

Ref
Regarding the hiring of donald findlay. this case will go in front of a jury and that is where lawyers become irrelevant. this case could be decided by the number of non celtic fans . the recent case in edinburgh is a good example

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So lets get this right the case of the tube that attacked Neil Lennon collapsed because there wasnt enough celtic supporters on the jury it had nowt to do with the fact that the police made a complete b****cks of the case. so what you are saying regardless of the police F**K up if more Celtic fans had been on the Jury the trumpet would have got done.

now that dont seem right to me your telling us that if the jury had been made of of celtic fans they would not have been impartial and would have let the fact that they support Celtic sway their decision.

my friend you are delusional and your comments say enough about you for me to come to the conclusion you are paranoid.

Tony {Ed007's Note - Evening Tony.}

TONY, I am not telling you again, cut out those swerry words LOL Timalloy
PS what I am worried about is when Findlay SHAKES the judges hand at start of trial ha ha ha

No point in having power if you cant abuse it Tim


Tony

14 Oct 2011 18:39:37
Anyone who watched the departing Chairman John Reid's address should not have any illusions about the way the club is run or where it has been going. Clearly the Club sees the likes of Hooper, Kayal etc as developmental players for CL. My understanding is that this policy is not a choice but is a necessity and has been forced onto the club because we just cannot compete financially. Of course if the players identified do make the grade they will be subject to predatory clubs buying from us on the cheap. If they dont make the grade the outlook is even worse as we potentially lose the league year after year or fail to make the CL proper. Apparently what we buy as season ticket holders and in the Celtic shop just doesn't cut it. So why aren't the board considering expanding into particularly the US and Australia where there are potentially huge fan bases? Why aren't supporters official card holders? Sure the kids scheme is good at CP but there is more to do. Apparently the Celtic board is filled with leaders and achievers and winners; so wheres the silverware! I am realistic, I know we have huge constraints but surely that that's why we cant be complacent with the huge worldwide supporter base and it has to be developed soon. We can always hope for a restructuring and the promise of gravy tomorrow, my worry is we will sink so low meanwhile that we wont be invited to the big party when it comes.

14 Oct 2011 15:38:03
Neil Lennon has said that his success at Celtic Park will rest on the form of Georgios Samaras.

The Celtic manager gave the Greek striker a three-year contract in March, but he has failed to score so far this season and only managed three last term. Lennon now admits that the striker could ultimately cost him his job unless he finds form.

Asked by a shareholder whether he regretted giving the 26-year-old a new deal, Lennon replied: "No, I don't. The alternative was to let him leave for nothing.

"There was a lot of interest in him from other clubs. But he wanted to stay here and prove himself. So he is our player."

The 1st sentance. It all rests on samaras ?

Talk about putting the guy under pressure ? After saying everyone give him a break (NL that is) then a few weeks later says that ?

Like ed said they will only say what we want to hear. Also it's chinesse whispers I'm hearing that the players don't like Lennon because of the whole commons thing ? (basically the same stuff we all said on here a few weeks back too about stokes,etc)

Come on you bhoys in green
Lenny

14 Oct 2011 13:28:22
hahah you couldnt make that uo, just seen the bomb Accused story on bbc, who is representing one of these Rangers fans ( and yes i use te word fan extremley loosley here) ..... none other than Donald Finlay. Surley he would have a little bit of sense that with his own history it is probably not to clever. Suppose money talks and lawers tend to have no moral scruples. What happens if they are as guilty as sin and he gets them off on it? i rekon there will be an uproar of our suports set of bampots.

Evinguu


what exactly did donald finlay do wrong as far as im aware he sung the sash if you search youtube you will find both sets of OF players explayers,Managers and ex managers doing a lot worse {Ed007's Note - If he didn't do anything wrong why did he resign? Same old story, two wrongs don't make a right. It wasn't just his sing song antics, it was his general behaviour at official Rangers' functions (his jokes etc) as well. A man in his position should know better.}

Im sure it was the Billy Boys song he sung. It wasnt The Sash.
BBEAR {Ed007's Note - It was The Sash and Follow Follow he sang.}

To the unamed poster above regarding Donald Findlay, he is an educated man and has seen the trouble caused by sectarianism in the courts, we can forgive (up to a point) the people with less education and knowledge but not someone like Findlay who sadly should have known a lot better Neil T

Who wood you expect to represent them Paul Mcbride if you are going to have a biased Lawyer you had better get one that is biased towards you lets be honest Bhoys if that was one of your own Morons that had done the same to Mccoist i would bet it was McBride who would be defending them lol {Ed007's Note - Another Rangers fans that can't enter a discussion without trying to twist things round with 'What ifs' or 'You done that'. I also fail to see why you put lol at the end, is it nowhere near funny.}

One other point when was the last time Findlay actually won a case, these idiots are going down for their crime and for picking a duff barrister. Neil T {Ed007's Note - I actually thought he had retired TBH.}

Cant understand why you are having a go at me im just pointing out that if you done anything against celtic club or their personnel you wouldnt hire mcbride to defend you i actually find it funny the original poster was questioning why the half wit that targeted lennon is using finlay, mcbride and finlay are arguably the best 2 defence lawyers in scotland so as for his choice to defend him its a no brainier {Ed007's Note - If I done anything to warrant a court appearance I would expect my lawyer to be impartial, regardless of my religion or team I support. I would also choose them by their ability to do their job well not their background.If they can't do that then they are not doing their job so should be struck off, they are very well paid for their job. You have shown a very small minded attitude by suggesting football or even religion would have any bearing on the way a lawyer/QC would represent a client.}

Yea your right ed mcbride would be partial and so would finlay i agree they should be but would you risk your liberty on the hope that they would be if i was stupid enough to commit a crime that i needed a lawyer i would have no hesitation of engaging Paul Mcbride to represent me as long as that crime was not against the Celtic Family im not saying he would not do his best i just wouldn't take that chance {Ed007's Note - I would think both men would show personal and professional integrity, they have so much to lose otherwise. Findlay might be a bit of a joke figure with his big moustache and pipe but he seems to be an excellent QC. Even cases he has won that you don't agree with, he has done his job extremely well at the end of the day.}

As i said ed both great qc but if its your own liberty at risk i dont know

maybe im just being paranoid {Ed007's Note - Maybe lol Let's hope we both never need to find out!}

Ref -

Cant understand why you are having a go at me im just pointing out that if you done anything against celtic club or their personnel you wouldnt hire mcbride to defend you i actually find it funny the original poster was questioning why the half wit that targeted lennon is using finlay, mcbride and finlay are arguably the best 2 defence lawyers in scotland so as for his choice to defend him its a no brainier {Ed007's Note - If I done anything to warrant a court appearance I would expect my lawyer to be impartial, regardless of my religion or team I support. I would also choose them by their ability to do their job well not their background.If they can't do that then they are not doing their job so should be struck off, they are very well paid for their job. You have shown a very small minded attitude by suggesting football or even religion would have any bearing on the way a lawyer/QC would represent a client.}


Im not questioning why this halfwit is using him, im just posing the question, will this stir up more trouble around this issue. As we all know there are halfwits on both sides of the divide. And given the already well documented unsavory shall we say behaviour of Findlay could these idiots look for revenge or whatever. i will say he is a damn good QC who does tend to get all the big defence cases. My question really was not was this person doing picking him ? as infact picking Findlay shows some sort of sense as there aint many better, it was does this decicion not possibly cause more furore surrounding this case, if he can manage to get these guys off, even though there probably is enough evidence to convict.thus make these morons kick off on our side?


Could we also see another not proven verdict on some of the charges as i see they have done the whole its based on religious prejudice thing again. When in all reality we are dealing with some pathetic guys who should basically be tried on the charges of trying to hurt or kill a fellow human being. Why does religion have to come into it? i get it could be a factor in their actions but the religious side could surley just be used as extra weight in the procecution rather than being an actual base on the charges brought!

Evinguu

Regarding the hiring of donald findlay. this case will go in front of a jury and that is where lawyers become irrelevant. this case could be decided by the number of non celtic fans . the recent case in edinburgh is a good example

14 Oct 2011 12:02:02
If the rumours of Hooper and Ki leaving in January are true then why not bid for McDonald and Robson from Middlesborough, Dunne from Villa and Murphy from Motherwell with some of the cash?

Jungle Jim

Whoever goes...sorting out defence has to be priority !

What about a goalkeeper

14 Oct 2011 11:37:12
hahah you couldnt make that uo, just seen the bomb Accused story on bbc, who is representing one of these Rangers fans ( and yes i use te word fan extremley loosley here) ..... none other than Donald Finlay. Surley he would have a little bit of sense that with his own history it is probably not to clever. Suppose money talks and lawers tend to have no moral scruples. What happens if they are as guilty as sin and he gets them off on it? i rekon there will be an uproar of our suports set of bampots.

Evinguu

Its his job to try and get people off or a lighter sentence. We all know they guys are guilty but his job how can he refuse?
BBEAR

At the end of the day if he gets paid the money he is gonna do his job it isn't rocket science

Im not sure you guys are fully getting my intended point here.

Im not trying to slag off the use of Mr Findlay, i actually think he is dmn well good at what he does.

My point is to do with the moron element in my own Celtics support. IF he can get them off. What would a possible backlash be, cos im sure there are idiots out there who would try, christ these guys are in the dock for sending bombs to a football manager amongst others. So if there are elements of 'support' (again used in its vaguest sense willing to act as these chaps appear to have acted, note the language here if and appear not assuming they are guilty yet. Then if it turns out they are guilty as sin and the get off scot free, would the bampot element of my own support do somthing completley idiotic, and would Findlay be at the centre of this given his dubious past?? thus maybe making him not the ideal man for this particular case.

I would certainly hope not, and would condemn any retalatory action. Im basing this on well if something like this has already happened over bugger all, something else could happen, it is a sick society we live in and anything is possible, just rather it wasnt!


This is all just hyperbole and speculation on my part, and in reality nothing will come of it. But i like speculation and gets a conversation going.

Hope that clears my point up more for you guys :)

Evinguu

14 Oct 2011 11:27:31
Thinking ahead to tomorrows game.

Now celtic have been relativley poor in the last 2 games. I feel we are due for one of thier better performances. It seems to be that they will have on pretty decent game then have one average one and then one abysmal one, so we are now back to the start of this cycle!

So a win is my prediction for this weekend too, like Lenny further down the page.

Evinguu