Celtic Banter Archive June 14 2012

 

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14 Jun 2012 23:06:43
Ed007...will The Rangers have to negotiate all sponsorship eg. Tennents, Tina Turner etc again ? Umbro for the strips etc. What is their current income and when they talk of...let the SPL rot without us, what kind of income do they think they will have in the 3rd division ? {Ed007's Note - They have no income, every thing else is in limbo, there is nothing there for anyone to sponsor.}

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So the NewCo will have to start haggling with sponsors ? How will they maintain the up keep of Ibrox, Murray Park, the players wages etc. Mrs E {Ed007's Note - They will need investment from the new owners. Just as a guess I would say that there will be clauses in sponsorship contracts (that would work both ways) regarding situations like this. Companies could just transfer the deals or be looking to renegotiate the terms.}

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14 Jun 2012 23:08:29
Ok guys. Time for a wee reality check . So easy for us tims to be smug about the current situation. But.but feck all. Lets all be smug smug smug.artybhoy in joviality.have a great weekend ed,fellow tims and timettes.come on and do the conga....

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Police are trying to talk a Rangers fan down from roof at Celtic park, police ask why Celtic park. he says, Have you seen the queue at ibrox

DazzaBhoy

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14 Jun 2012 22:52:52
What a week! 4 months of waiting I thought it was never going to happen, then we wattie comes in, could not make it up best described as running into a hospital with a donar card hours after the patient you helped kill had died. But does not stop there since last week the rangers fans maybe not all but at my work it's ok wee rino is coming back. I never knew he played for sion? That must be there new team since none of the want to buy season tickets for the rangers football club!

Cmac

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14 Jun 2012 22:37:54
just read wanyamas agent sayin he wants to leave celtic , dont understand this guy wanyama , why could he even think of leaving celtic , i mean he.s certain to win the league for at least the next 5 years with celtic , not only that , those 5 titles will be won by november of each year , you could even say it will be 5 trebles on his cv and maby even going through seasons without even dropping points , just dont get it , tedbear

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Dont you worrie about it he is our player and there are other clubs out there that will try and win things. dont think it will be all Celtic wins, that your former clubs thinking.

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14 Jun 2012 22:24:47
AS "THE RANGERS FC" is a bit of a misnomer why dont we
just address them as NEWCO !!

eg OH the NEWCO are SHight...

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The zombies for me mate

Briggs

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Given no history and no trophies; its Sporting Heehaw for me.
Al

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14 Jun 2012 22:01:54
Roy Keane as a TV pundit = Brilliant :-) Mrs E

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14 Jun 2012 21:35:03
gattusso signs for sion,hes interested in becoming a sports lawyer,so rangers+sion ! no old firm,what are we gonnae call us v the rest? bri67

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So it was nothing to do with money then. Swiss. Wink wink, or is that just wi nk ?

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14 Jun 2012 21:20:56
black lace, is it a party or the other one? bri67

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14 Jun 2012 20:48:46
Did Celtic win the last old firm Game EVER ?

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& the first one ever m8

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And for all that was ther me included that is a peice of history i have allready told my bhoys in my eyes its just as good as being at the first and was in my estamation the best iv been too was unreal and i dont like to say it but even the shame were in good voice ,history something to tell the grand kids when they come along,glasgow rangers ther no more ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha

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14 Jun 2012 20:43:36
Gattuso has just signed for FC SION. At least he made sure he signed for another team who hate us lol

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Do you think Watty missing out today had any bearing on his decision lol

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14 Jun 2012 20:41:38
Rino Gattuso just signed for Sion ( HA SION) Yet another "you cant right this stuff" moment!!

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14 Jun 2012 20:29:50
After his late bid for Rangers Walter Smith will now fly to Dallas where he aims to stop JFK assassination by shouting "Duck Mr.President"

Briggs

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14 Jun 2012 20:24:15
well sir watty appears on the scene ally threats 2 go i smell arat they have waited till the bad guys went bust so they would not b blamed 4 them going out the game poor mr greene will get the same treatment as whyte lennon the panel judges got 4 banning them from buying players it 1 big scam 2 get them n the cheap and blame everyone else now the bears will b on the warpath 2 get them out a disgrace watch this space smith mcoist a disgrace u no what u are doing i no u wont post this but it just my view hail hail

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14 Jun 2012 19:41:09
Im actually looking forward to more and more of this green joker. Barley hours in position as owner and already is naming people as part of his consortium who are not part of his consortium.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18449917

Has green used this guys money to buy the assets? If this money was available for the cva where is it now? is it going in the liquidation pot? probably.

Evinguu

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So Hart has been involved at one stage or another with the Green, Blue Knights and Smith consortiums.

K-Dot.

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14 Jun 2012 19:08:58
Rangers Tax Case tweeting questions the main stream media should be asking Walter Smith:

1. Can you tell us in comprehensive detail about all payments you received through the EBT scheme?

2. Can you tell us when those payments were made?

3. Can you tell us why those payments were made?

4. And lastly- were you the Everton and/or Scotland manager at the time? i.e. long after you left RFC employment.

The RTC website has been proven correct in what they have said so far. This strongly suggests that Watty did receive payments through an EBT and long after he left Rangers.

As the RTC website states, why does the media not ask him (although I believe one journalist did and was then banned from press conferences).

K-Dot.

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Hi K-Dot.
Not trying to be awkward or anything,but what difference would knowing the answers to your questions make at this stage?
RFC has gone. The EBT and BTC are irrelevant as far as the Newco is concerned.
It was David Murray who sanctioned any fraudulent activity through the Murray Group,and various offshore accounts.
I can't see any logical reason for your curiosity,othr than to attempt to discredit an RFC legend.The question regarding the EBT's does not go anywhere near the assumption of tainting any of the beneficiaries of the scheme,it is more to do with what happened to the tax deductions once they had ben taken from the individual,i.e. were they passed on to HMRC. EBT's were legal,how they were implemented is the croix of debate. If your employer/boss deducts your tax,paye,nic,liabilities,but retains them instead of declaring and passing them on,would you expect to be held accountable?
P.O.B.
Hardly Walter Smith's fault. {Ed007's Note - Eh that is not quite right POB. Zombie Rangers will be held accountable for any football sanctions passed down as punishment for past rule-breaking.}

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What part is not quite right Ed?
I never mentioned Zombie Rangers.
I posted regarding Newco.
Who is Zombie Rangers? DM CW and former directors, HMRC have said they are going after those responsible,and investigating why the company failed. Newco may still attract sanctions from SFA/SPL,but no litigation regarding BTC/EBT.At least that's what HMRC's statement implied yesterday.
Or are you referring to the employee liability?
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - Zombie Rangers is the newco. POB if Rangers fans are now thinking liquidation gives them a clean bill of health they are very much mistaken. Rangers past indiscretions will bring sanctions on the newco from the footballing authorities.}

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POB - I don't know where you're coming from when you refer to what happened to tax deductions once they had been taken by the employer from the EBT.

That is the whole point, no tax deductions were taken. Tax is not deducted from EBTs. Tax is avoided, or as will be found with Rangers, evaded.

Rangers made payments arranged by MIH into a central EBT. The central EBT then divided the money up into individual EBTs for each employee.

The employee then takes a loan from the EBT. Smith is alleged (and I believe he has) received money in this way.

This loan was a way of Smith getting money from Rangers and evading having to pay tax and national insurance on it.

This is money that should have been paid to Smith as part of his salary and incurred tax and national insurence.

By paying it through an EBT rather than through payroll Smith has evaded tax and national insurance.

It is paid as a loan and it is meant to be paid back by the employee, but the employee never does pays it back. That is the whole wheeze. It's a tax avoidance scheme or in Rangers case a tax evasion scheme.

And although you will no doubt disagree, Smith would be well aware that payments he received from Rangers should have had tax and national insurance deducted and by operating an EBT he was evading this tax.

Anyone in Smith's position as Manager at Rangers who received payments from the club were for his football services to the club. As such, they were subject to tax and national insurance.

The whole point of my posting is this. Should a man that has set out to avoid paying tax and national insurance, and having done everything to hide that he had an EBT (notice he has not been investigated by the main stream media), be trying to front a consortium to take over the Newco Rangers.

Do you really want someone who has helped cause many of your problems be involved in the Newco.

I don't think he should.

And the situation is still relevant. Because the SFA / SPL are still investigating whether players had dual contracts and there is still the result of the FTT to be delivered. Perhaps you just want to ignore this, but I think it is very relevant to SCottish football to know the full extent of Rangers dishonesty, and if the Manager was at it, then that story needs to be told.

K-Dot.

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Yep, i'm aware of future sanctions from spl/sfa Ed. But my query to K-Dot was regarding his post about WS and EBT's. Not relevant to Newco.
Don't get the connotation to "Zombie Rangers" as Newco Ed. Zombie implies walking dead. "The Rangers Football club" is a "newborn" I'm totally aware that SFA/SPL sanctions will follow Newco as per the regulations.
One year sabbatical. Possible demotion.
Three year ban from Europe. And further financial penalties. Scottish cup ban etc.
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - Well the club is dead and yet still seems to be walking............and just like a zombie it is aimlessly staggering around, foaming at the mouth, making some very strange noises and looking for it's pound of flesh.}

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K-Dot. The relevance is in reference to
Billy Dodds and his comments on his EBT situation via his newspaper column.
BD categorically insisted that DM approached him... regarding money owed to BD,and asked him to accept it being paid in the form of EBT. BD said he was taxed on this.
Until proven otherwise i'm assuming BD is tellig the truth. I don't beleve BD is a foolish man,and would doubt that he would have went public with this,when firstly,he had no need to,and secondly chose to raise the subject through his sports column.I am therefore assuming that the same protocols applied in all cases.I'm also quite happy to assume that DM would not have gone into any great detail,and the recipients would not have asked any questions,as long as they got paid. I want to find out who,when,and why, our club was thrown to the wolves,i'm certainly not looking at Walter being held liable for our downfall.David Murray was the Boss.
He held the power of veto over everything.
The buck stops with him,and subsequently Craig Whyte,who was the one who tipped us over the precipice. P.O.B.

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You've just described a Zombie Ed.
"The Rangers football club" is a new entity.It is not dead. It is neither lifeless,apathetic,or completely unresponsive to it's situation or surroundings.
Fans are rightly concerned about Charles Green,although he is the only guy who has stuck it out. However i think WS Donald Park etc are concerned that the fans won't back Green by purchasing season tickets,and quite rightly want to see the colour of Green/Servco's money independently.
£5.5 million is a relevantly insignificant amount to invest and not much of an appetiser for fans investment that could be at least five times that.
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - So we don't need to mention anything that has happened before as the Zombie Rangers are a total new entity? Thank God for that!! You would have thought Green could have came up with a better name, people might get confused that this new entity actually has anything to do with Dodo Rangers (the extinct old entity). It could probably be argued that he is living off the past glories of the extinct club to try and make a quick buck out of it all. I will say this though, for a team that only came into existence today there is some amount of supporters jumped to support them, seems that Rangers fans weren't so loyal after all. Let's hope it's not another case of putting lipstick on the dog again.}

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P.O.B. - you will find that at best Billy Dodds is mistaken and at worst he has lied.

I could go on into a detailed explanation, but there is no point. You will just have to wait until the outcome of the FTT.

Regards.

K-Dot.

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14 Jun 2012 18:47:38
It seems if you dare post anything negative or give facts about that dead team on the shames page it never gets posted,obviously the truth hurts there zombie fc ED! They go on about still being rfc& will be forever(all still in denial&deluded as we all know there extinct!)They say there history is dignified&proud of it,well i would distance myself as far from it as possible,who would be proud of wrecking manchester..turning barcelona into a urinal..banned travelling support in europe for sectarian singing..only club too lift a cup winners trophy in a ROOM,due to rioting fans,there shameful sectarian policy,tax vat ni fraud,ebt&numerous ongoing enquiries,yet want too WALK AWAY from it all...They now will be walking the green mile& no matter how they& the media try to dress it up they are DEAD!!Rant over lol..stevo {Ed007's Note - Stevo, it is not only one editor per site. All the English eds have access to both the Rangers and CFC site. If you look at the Man Utd, LFC, Arsenal etc sites you will see I have been on them as well.}

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Ok cheers ed,heres me thinking he was anti zombie fc comments,lol,stevo {Ed007's Note - Ed039 is bang on mate, he is just learning the ropes so play nice.}

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Ed. Don't take my word for it,ask Ed039 about Stevo.
The problem with you stevo is you tell gainwee porkies. At least be honest with Ed007 if you're looking for a shoulder to cry on.
Ed039 gave you a ticking off for trying to flog a dead horse.
Are you bored a stevo?
P.O.B. {Ed007's Note - I can't edit the Rangers site POB and I haven't even had much time to read over it. I will ask Ed039 about it, but it couldn't have been that bad or Stevo would have been blocked.}

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Ed i gave them the mantra of liquidation for few months,was told "stop repeating same old $hite","you say it all the time",only warned them about armagedon like we all did,but was told was a biggot on many occasions,nevr once made biggoted comments,or i think posts wouldnthave been posted,just the way the deluded took there view that my mantra was fiction& usual pathetic timmy rumours..stevo {Ed007's Note - I will say that I have never seen anything from you that I would class as bigoted Stevo. You are just like Tedbear to the extent you are out fishing for a catch, that is the point of banter.}

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True ed& as soon as the lines cast there like a frenzy of pirrahnas,lol,but still there mindset is i was a biggoted sad little nostrademus.pmsl..stevo

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14 Jun 2012 18:30:32
Evening Ed What does everyone think of SIR walters so called last
minute takeover. I think this is just one big stunt to let the rangers fans
think that he really cares about the future of rangers. JM
{Ed007's Note -I am waiting on him to announce that the Titanic 'didn't look to safe'. He took his time didn't he.......

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Sly old Walter is trying to dupe the gers fans

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14 Jun 2012 18:15:31
Green booed by the Zombie supporters as he leaves Ibrox.

Zombie supporters not buying season books for next season.

Timalloy - are you runing a book on what month the NEWCO Rangers will be liquidated next season.

Glasgows GREEN and WHYTE.

K-Dot.

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K Dot, too late old Charlie Green already has betting sewn up, any way to make a buck... LOL Timalloy

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Should also have said:

Green is dependant on a successful share issue to finance his takeover (£20m - £30m he said he'd raise within 1 month) - supporters will not now buy into this.

Green's plans of deriving high income from the Asian market is pure fantacy.

Sir Walter's intervention today may well be tha catalyst for Rangers being liquidated again next season. Thanks Walt buddy.

C'mon Timalloy, what odds are you giving?

K-Dot.

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14 Jun 2012 18:11:04
jock+the lions killed rangers,god less you all! bri67 im pissed haha HAIL HAIL {Ed007's Note - Chasing lions has been proven to be hazardous to your longevity.}

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Big Jock killed the ****, tra la la la
Big Jock killed the ****, tra la la la
keep repeating... Timalloy

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14 Jun 2012 18:02:36
Does anybody know if charles green has bought rangers?

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He can't have they don't exist any more....

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14 Jun 2012 18:01:55
is ther no brains in that lot ,dont have to answer that ,the hero smith has turned up on his high horse going to be the hero now that ther is no debt what about murray is he next to have a go at a shot of owner ship ,what a dosile lot they realy are

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14 Jun 2012 18:00:20
murray,smith,white,d+p,green,back to smith!any connection? bri67

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14 Jun 2012 17:51:14
Apparently some old bloke with grey hair and a blue cardigan was seen dusting of his brown brogues earlier this afternoon and dreaming of walking up the marble staircase once more. Sadly for him, the brogues are now back in the wardrobe.

This just gets better and better.

The bun fight is far from over. Legal challenges await.

Until then - still p1shing myself laughing. It gets better and better every day. Even Pat can't make up anything as funny (apologies Pat).

K-Dot.

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K Dot, I heard marble staircase has been sold and some lucky bears are being offered designer kitchen work tops from it...
Timalloy

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14 Jun 2012 17:45:56
thats sir walter covering himself with the fans then so he can still leave his house! bri67

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My cousin txtd me about a 'new bid from WS' but when I checked on Sly around 5pm I could not see any info. Anyway did the 'Duffers' not state that there was only Greens bid that would be considered?
Where was he when his club was still available? I agree with you and think it was a pathetic publicity stunt to distract from his part in the demise and death at Ibrox. Hope he gets what's due to him.

JJ

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14 Jun 2012 17:26:32
Am I missing something about all this Rankers thing. When Green buys the Liquidated club for 5.5mil he gets everything lock stock and barrel including Murray Park and Castle Greyskull. What stops him then Asset stripping and selling it off to make a tidy wee profit? eg Ibrokes fro 4mil to Tesco and Murray Park to Partick Thistle for 2 bob and so on anso on....

I am glad they have built that shiny new fence on the Erskine Bridge maybe the council already new what was going to happen ;)

HH & COYBIG

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14 Jun 2012 16:45:52
Ssn reportIng Walter is to late with his bid to beat green to the purchase of rangers lol may aswell do walking away just like Grieg

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14 Jun 2012 16:45:13
Ed can you please confirm for me that rangers can't add onto there 54 titles

Kieran1888 {Ed007's Note - There is no Rangers to add anything to Kieran. They don't exist any longer.}

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14 Jun 2012 16:43:28
Green has bought them. Ha Ha. too late wally

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Its never too late mate , tedbear

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14 Jun 2012 16:43:00
Think this is an old one but i was reminded of it today and nearly peed myself. (understand if not posted Ed)

Whats the difference between an apple and an orange ??.........


Evinguu {Ed007's Note - Are you serious!!!! No chance lmao :-)

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Haha thought that wud be the case. sorry ed!

Evinguu {Ed007's Note - You are worth the watching :-)

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Evinguu, are you trying to post durty jokes? Pat and myself are shocked, wash your laptop out immediately...
Timalloy

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14 Jun 2012 16:21:51
her ed wee sallys jist foned me tae say thit hes goat the chance ae ,wait fur it 50,000 auld ranjurs scarfs wae glesga ranjurs oan thum seeminly they canae use thum fur legul reezins so dae ye think we cood sell thum tae you-no-who?
n divvy up the dough rite doon the middle 30/50 tae me of course,here ahl bet wee timbo daft enuff tae take thum?

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To the person formely known as wee pat, hey wee man apparently to get on board at Ibrokes you need surname Murray, there you go wee man Pat "Murray" and you will make a mint..
LOL Timalloy

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14 Jun 2012 16:18:32
Just read Walters statment on the B8C web site . Let the fight begin! Although he is acting inthe best interests of the club, this is actually the final nail in the coffin. No way in hell will this bun fight be resolved before the start of the season.

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The Green Consortium officially own the Newco Rangers

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14 Jun 2012 16:04:45
Ha ha ha the gift that just keeps giving...
Now our Wattie, with Jim McColl and Douglas Park are challenging Green.
Wattie can solve some problems right away, our Jim will have the
playing surface in pristeen condition for when the newco runs out at the
"New" Douglas Park... Timalloy
PS Can I also suggest a title for this new takeover bid
THE BATTLE OF THE ZOMBIES!!

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14 Jun 2012 15:51:27
i thought ide put this here, as the rangers ed seems to be on vacation, i know how you all love to read all things rangers related lol

WALTER SMITH STATEMENT IN FULL

"I can today confirm that following talks over the last few weeks I am leading a new bid for Rangers Football Club.

"I have been assisted by Jim McColl, Douglas Park and other prominent Scottish businessmen with a shared objective - that Rangers Football Club should be in the hands of Rangers people who will stabilise the club and protect it from future situations like we find ourselves in today.

"With this in mind, representatives have, on behalf of my group, made representations to BDO, Duff and Phelps and indeed Charles Green, notifying them of our willingness to offer on the "Newco" basis on which Mr Green is proceeding.

"We would call on Mr Green to step aside and allow us to proceed with our deal which is in the best interests of the creditors, the employees, the fans and the various other stakeholders of Rangers Football Club.

"None of our group has any desire to own Rangers Football Club but we have put this deal in place to save the club.

"However, our overriding objective is to ensure that the stadium, the history and everything else magical about Rangers Football Club is protected and nurtured back to good health and provide a platform for Rangers for generations to come.

"Let's be clear, this is an acquisition designed to stabilise the club and ensure history does not repeat itself.

"We are not in this to take money out of the club but more so to do whatever it takes in a turnaround plan to ensure within a few years the Club can be passed on intact and to the right people.

"The supporters should be under no illusion that it will be extremely hard but with their support we can overcome financial hardship that lies ahead by lending their support to what we feel is the correct way forward - for Rangers people who know the club inside and out to control its destiny.

"The prominent Scottish businessmen involved have agreed to provide acquisition funding to allow myself and a management team to take on Rangers Football Club and make the business self-sufficient with long term sustainability being essential.

"I would hope that this offer is fully supported by everyone in the Rangers Family as without them the club cannot and will not survive.

"We therefore want to ensure honesty and transparency in everything we do. We want to rebuild Rangers Football Club and in doing so return the institution to the standards it is known for.

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Why wait until today and come forth? Had since Feb 14, 4 months!
Utter BS and as others have claimed smoke n mirrors to detract from smith's bigger issues such as EBT involvement. The sooner this is all done n dusted n their in div 3 the better. worse than watching corrie!

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14 Jun 2012 15:49:48
David Murrays Press Statement....For Every 5 Years Criag Whyte Does in Jail...I Will Do 10...stevo

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14 Jun 2012 15:33:49
Ed (or anybody else?)
anyone got any info on the contract
situation at castle greyskull?
So many contrasting stories! doing
my head in trying to work out what's
going on! ... MrCheshington {Ed007's Note - Contracts can be transferred to Zombie Rangers but it is on the current terms of the contract or they will be voided and players can leave for nothing.}

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14 Jun 2012 15:24:34
when does newco rumours site start up...after defunct fc's shuts down?....col

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14 Jun 2012 15:20:51
i cant see the rangers making it as far as 1 candle on their birthday cake! infact i dont think they will even make the christening! bri67

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Looks like you might be right

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14 Jun 2012 15:13:03
walter smith leading new bid for the dark side

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14 Jun 2012 14:45:19
They really should have believed us, they really should have believed us......


The shame have gone bust

Jamie Mac(1man congas r good!)

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14 Jun 2012 14:25:05
Rangers new co is to be called 'The Rangers'. A quick check shows me that www.therangers.co.uk and www.therangers.com are already taken.

However, I think they can have www.ranegers.sex now...
the could use that web site to show all the people they've f**ked.

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Best joke yet.

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14 Jun 2012 14:17:06
ED007 just when you think it could not get any funnier today, my bear
pals told me that Vanguard Bears want liquidation put aside, and a
full Government review to take place and as usual it is all our "Timmy's" fault as Collyer Bristow are Celtic lawyers and the chairman at TSB was a "Tim" also..
I did not know just how much power we Tims had, oh if only the VB got
the Irony in all their accusations..
Timalloy (man of power) {Ed007's Note - The VB couldn't find their ar5e with both hands Tim. I can imagine much wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst them. It couldn't happen to a nicer rabble. They think irony is something they can scrap for White Lightening.}

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ED007, yes sadly Irony most bears just do not get, and to prove my point just heard that Rangers Media are calling for David Murray to APOLOGISE to THEM!
Er bears of RM, I think the apology should be directed elsewhere.....The whole of Scottish Football...
Timalloy

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What im wondering Ed and Tim is how many panels do rangers need to tell them that they cheated before they believe it?

Also loved the sources for their info. Leggoland lmao!

Evinguu

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14 Jun 2012 13:33:56
Been informed that due to rangers (or whoever they are) will actually be out of Europe for 4 years. Due to registration etc, anyone know if this is true?
CB

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Yes the euro ban starts on the first of june , and they have missed the deadline for this year. their 3 year ban won't start until 1st of june next year , so effectively a four year ban, happy days..bb

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I think it's 2016/17 before a newco could be in Europe because they have to show audited accounts for the 3 years previous for the 31st of march the year before they play! So they would not be able to do that so technically it would be 4 years!!

Campsie Tim

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14 Jun 2012 13:13:41
I dont know if i can find the words to describe how i feel on this sad day so here goes ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Tulip

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14 Jun 2012 12:53:28
I wonder if the ex-Rangers fans will be up in arms that McCoist hadn't shaved today, or even wore a tie! They seemed to like to comment on Lennys appearance often enough lol {Ed007's Note - Maybe he wasn't allowed to wear a tie incase he became a danger to himself, did he have laces in his brown brogues?}

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Good wan mate , he,s still no on a level as lennon when it comes to the looks and appearance stakes tedbear {Ed007's Note - I never had you down as one of NL's 'pink' Rangers' fans Ted. As I have said before, I think it is fantastic that NL has broken down the barriers of homophobia in football that allows Rangers fans to comfortably and openly discuss how attractive other men are. Live and let live I always say.}

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I agree ed , if a guy wants to stick his pinky oot or wear a bandana , thats cool wae me , too many people rush to the front of the cue to be offended in this country i think ed , has lenny wore a bandana before by any chance , tedbear {Ed007's Note - I have no idea ;-)

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Tedbear, as we are talking men's fashion today, I believe Ally's outfit could be called shabby sheik, and his designer stubble ala George Michael, set him off nicely and took all eyes away from his beer belly. Timalloy (the Gok Wan of this page)

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Tedbear, Sally has just announced that the red hand of Ulster flag will be replaced with a nice shade of PINK!
hugs and kisses Timalloy {Ed007's Note - The Red Neck of Govan.}

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Shabby is the new cool these days tim , your jist no with it mate tedbear

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Lol , aw jees man , gony you stoapit tim , ma sides are splittin here , tedbear

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14 Jun 2012 12:49:35
Ally McCoist to leave Newco FC .... Today will go down as the worst day in their 2 day history !!

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14 Jun 2012 12:31:13
I have no doubt that Newco - who have the opportunity to start afresh and exorcise the demons of the past - will still attract a percentage of bigots and morons with sectarian songs/chants and Catholic players who are forbidden to bless themselves before, during or after each game.
I will wait and see and hope The Celtic continue to ban inappropriate and irrelevant chants as we have more than enough in our repertoire to motivate The Bhoys with some witty and catchy new additions along the way.
We have a lot of material to work with!

Jungle Jim

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I don't agree with players blessing themselves on the pitch. Not because I am a Bluenose, but as we are so often asked, "What has religion got to do with football?"....and before you start calling me a sectarian bigot, I'm Catholic!

TTG {Ed007's Note - I honestly don't see why there is a problem with anything like that. It is another problem that is exclusive to Scotland, players all over the world make religious gestures before, during and after games. How many players point to the sky etc after scoring to thank God etc. It's just people making a mountain out of a molehill. It's not as if they are sacrificing lambs on the park.}

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Agree with some of what you say ther ed , but what about the players who never bless themselves , but when after signing for celtic all of a sudden want to do it , maby that was thmd guys point ed tedbear {Ed007's Note - What about player's that done it for years, were told to stop when they signed for Rangers, and then done it again when they left? I wasn't singling out any club or team, I was talking in general football terms and how it is only a problem in Scotland.}

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Spot on, Ed!

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Guys like advarladsie could be clearly seen doin it coming out the tunnel at ibrox and no one bothered , i myself couldn,t give a sh.t ed , as ive said too many people rush to the front to be offended , the misuss is catholic and people should respect other peoples beliefs , tedbear {Ed007's Note - So why comment on it?}

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TTG maybe your newco's new club song can be BLESS THEM ALL! lol Timalloy

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Next time south american or spanish italy footy is on watch the blessing no one would dare ever come out with a comment like that have you got a comment on black players or celebrating when they score ,this is whats wrong with the world not only football let peaple do what they think is right to them when no one is being hurt ,this is how facism starts when peaple want to tell peaple what they shouldnt do when it is realy you that wants to be in controll

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Because some people do it to play to the audience and not out of faith thats why i commented on it , it was braught up , is that not what your sites about ed , debate , tedbear {Ed007's Note - You said you didn't give a sh1t.... Why comment on something that doesn't bother you?}

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Ttg , you are a catholic, what exactly offends you when a player makes the sign of the cross on the park,i am a protestant , and to be quite frank , i don't give a f***.. .. i was at a funeral today , in the pineapple . hadn't a clue what was going on with all the cerimonial stuff but , hey it's just people worshipping our god in their way,and at the end of the day we all spoke in one voice .. our father who art in heaven.. get over it if players want to bless themselves , let them . do you really want to criminalise it like you tried to do with the holie goalie .. get a life..bb

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But if you dont give a f--k about it bb then why comment on it , well thats what the ed said to me when i said the same thing , tedbear {Ed007's Note - You started trying to divert the thread onto something about CFC. BB asked another poster a question and you have pounced on that as well. Seeing as you want involved then, why did you bring up CFC players blessing themselves yet you say you couldn't give a sh1t about it? Is it just when when a CFC player does it it bothers you? There is a word for people that think like that Ted.}

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BB,

It doesn't offend me. I wrote a reply to Ed's comment earlier stating what I think of it. My point is that some people always say religion has nothing to do with footbal, blessing yourself is a religious sign....some people don't like.Do you honestly think the Holy Goaly was CONSTANTLY blessing himself every time he turned to the Rangers fans because of his religious beliefs? Have you ever saw a goaly bless himself every time he took a goal kick? I doubt. Boruc was inciting trouble, he knew exactly what he was doing. He didn't bless himself at every goal kick when he was at the Celtic end that day.

TTG

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This crap is simply not true . big arthur blessed himself coming on to the park. to say he did it at every corner or free kick is rubbish. it's all on video .. direct me to one instance when he did it at corners or by kicks, if he did it will be on youtube .LIAR . nd bigot

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Tedbear , not even going to bother with you , you are a bigot.. and don't try to turn it round. i am a prod , i love my tim mates. i love celtic,and i don't give a s**t about religion.. to me there is only one religion CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB 1888 and still going {unlike yours} gone r.i.p...bb

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TTG GOD BLESS ARTUR BORIC..........
Every Rangers fan hounded the guy. Oh wait a minute he gets paid loads a money so he should just except it eh??
Get a life and grow up.

PS Iam not Catholic or Protestant. So live and let live.


Hoopey67

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I was at the game bud, I remember it wel. The Rangers fans weren't goin off their heads when he blessed himself coming onto the pitch.. Nearly everytime he turned to the fans in the Copeland he blessed himself. That was why they kicked up a stink. Boruc was provoking a reaction!

TTG

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And what part of my post has gave you the right to call me a bigot , you dont kno me son , some people do it to play to the crowd , if some of you think thats me having a sly dig at celtic then your havin a laf and proves my point abotjt people rushin to the front to be offended , tedbear

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Did Amoruso not get told off for blessing himself just after he signed for Gers?Also what is your opinion of the African teams sacrificing chickens at the side of the park during games,is that allowed Tedbear?

Jungle Bhoy.

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Direct me to a you tube video of him crossing himself at a corner or by kick.. you cant because they don't exist. if they do i will apologise until you do ,, spin..bb

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Jungle bhoy if you could see somethings that they do wae chickens sacrifising them should be the least of your worries , tedbear

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Bhoys and ghirls lets calm it down a bit tedbear is on here every day with all of us and its good banter he didnt say anything offensive and i understand what he meant even if it did come out the wrong way!!

Chalky Bhoy!

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14 Jun 2012 12:31:06
Here ed,
I'm hearing Harry Redknapp for Rangers !
LOL.
Taxman's bricking it !
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Hi KB mate, nice to hear from you. Only if Sly cancel his transfer deadline day contract. Spuds actually sacked him on Tuesday night but didn't announce it until Redknapper's car was out the garage to get the electric windows fixed.}

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Aye, I know.
That Spurs poster, Sir Billy Nick, was going mad at Harry a few months ago and said their fans were up in arms. So no surprise there.
I've been consumed with LFC mate, gutted that Kenny went. And the new strips, f me.
Anyway, life goes on. Hope your peg's on the mend and you're able to sample the delights of St Mirren away on a January Wednesday night again.
The Real KB {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate. I'm hoping to get a ST again next season, last year was brutal not going to the games. It was for the best KD left, Rodgers will come good if he is given time.}

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I'm hearing it's harry rednaps dug .. he got away wi tax payments as well..bb

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14 Jun 2012 08:58:34
im not in the habit of makeing threats i like to leave that to them,but if sly goes through with this threat that if the shame is put to the 3rd for ther crimes against football and its integratey ,they will pull the plug on ther spl deal 'so long story short celtic fans will have to stick to gether more than ever and treating them with a complete cancel of all sly perscriptions we are the biggest club in this isle with more fans than anyone if sly wants cheats and theifs not punished for ther crimes, then on sportsmanship alone they are not right for scottish football or football in genral ,sky you do the math couse i know it would be over 100 thousand cancelations at least

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14 Jun 2012 12:03:31
I have been a rangers fan all my days, I love my club, and always will. But I have been thinking about what I would like to see happen next. So here goes.

New Co club stays in SPL.
Pros: Cons;
Club gets to keep a profile in the top division, Sense of in justice from other clubs and fans
SPL Product is enhanced possible handicap of point’s deduction
Spongers reduced deals
Better player’s higher wedge bill
New co to third division.
Pros Cons
Club can sell off high earners Nil
Club can bring through young stars Nil
Club could sell young stars for income Nil
Club can rebuild reputation Nil
More money and income to other teams Nil
The standards in lower divisions will raise Nil
When clubs wins promotion to top flight
TV deal would be re-negotiated for all SPL Nil
Other SPL clubs will have a shot at CL Nil

I like a lot of Rangers fans just want our club, we want it to be as it was for over 120yrs before all the bad deals and rubbish, we want it to be reborn with a reputation and vision that we can be proud of. And for this to happen the only way is to go right to the bottom and work our way up, if we stay in the SPl but with a points deduction then the integrity of that competition is damaged, It the third and only the third for me.

Wibblyblue

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14 Jun 2012 12:03:01
Just been listening to talksh1t with andy gray an co all in agreement that Celtic are nothing without them across the city. As a young tim in 94 i can remember the turmoil, but was too young for radio phone ins an buying papers. So heres my ? were the phundits saying the same about us when DM was ploughing bank loans into his club while Celtic were being called up for 1 million debt, did any media defend Celtic...
The papers, poiticians, ex players or were they all happy to see Celtic to die.


Cheers

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It was never mentioned by any of them that rangers needed celtic. Are there any celtic fans out there who will give up because rangers have gone ? How many will look forward to a new era of scottish football without them ? The truth is rangers have suffered total defeat, time to move on.

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I recall at one point before the financial trouble at Celtic that David Murry remarked that it was his intention to destroy Celtic. How'd that work out for ya.

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14 Jun 2012 11:46:27
So the fat one does do walking away or more the case of wobbleing away... What a t!t. Let's see where he ends up division 3 or juniors would be his level.

Briggs

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I see your point Ed. I ain't the religious type, not got a scooby about religion but I do know that most religions believe the same God, so pointing to sky toward God won't be a problem to most. When blessing yourself it only highlights which religion you are and that's were some folk see a problem. I ain't got a problem with it but if it offends people it shouldn't be allowed. It's just my view on it. No bigotry or hatred involved.

TTG

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Has Lennon walked away?

TTG

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My first post wasn't meant for this convo ed, whoops!

TTG {Ed007's Note - I think that was a wee glitch from our end buddy, I noticed that happened with a post earlier on as well.}

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14 Jun 2012 08:41:25
Just heard that pie eater dingwall telling other club chairman the way they are carrying on is shamefull i cant believe he chose that word considering the support he represents. Tulip

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14 Jun 2012 08:31:22
Mc coist I don't do walking away lol is quoting according to dr just gets better every day mon the hoops

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14 Jun 2012 08:31:13
for every 5 years craig whyte spends in jail i will spemd 10....david murray...col

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14 Jun 2012 08:26:36
I am still as a loss as to who Rangers management/auld players/fans etc think its to blame for Happy Liquidation Day.

I'm still reading let them rot without us, the SFA, we'll not forget who kicked us we were down...blah, blah, blah.

Still banging on about their ill-gotten gains and how proud they are.

Lets make one thing clear...this is YOUR OWN FAULT and would love to hear an argument and the justification for who it is outside Rangers thats to blame ??

Mrs E

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14 Jun 2012 07:53:50
The daily record is just a constant embaressment.

@briefcaset**t

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13 Jun 2012 23:53:22
Ed surely old rangers must be stripped of those titles won while they were cooking the books?

Also this newco surely they cant lay claim to Rangers history?

And why in hells name should some new team be allowed to start in the top flight?

I feel these gangsters are getting of too lightly. {Ed007's Note - Rangers (IL) have not been found guilty of 'cooking the books' apart from since the point of Whyte's takeover.}

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