Celtic Banter Archive December 14 2018

 

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14 Dec 2018
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14 Dec 2018 20:34:57
Players should exchange jerseys by post Greenheart.

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{Ed007's Note - They owed us a turn after the amount of money our fantastic away support have pumped into the Norwegian economy the last couple of seasons.}

14 Dec 2018 21:36:14
They are forever in our debt for giving us Harold Brattbakk😆.

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{Ed007's Note - And Lustig.... wasn't he an invincible with them too?

14 Dec 2018 22:19:58
A won't hear a bad word about harold.

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15 Dec 2018 04:31:19
Harold was a hero when we stopped 10 in a row, he was a great goal scorer for Rosenberg because they played to his strengths, our style didn’t always suit him, but his place in Celtic folklore is secure .

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15 Dec 2018 11:15:24
Guys, we don't owe Rosenborg anything. When they equalised against Leipzig I can assure you that last 32 qualification for Celtic was the last thing on their minds. They were simply being professional and trying to get a result for themselves. Had they not equalised they would have lost every game in the group. A single point doesn't make much difference apart from the fact that it shows they were only 99% shyte instead of 100%. Having said that I'm still pleased with the outcome. HH.

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14 Dec 2018 14:43:51
Do people still think we don't need broony or a player of his ilk outside of spl?

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14 Dec 2018 15:12:00
We need him period imo.

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14 Dec 2018 16:31:57
Could see game was screaming out for him after 5 minutes.
I have said it before he won't play every game but in certain ones he will be a must.

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14 Dec 2018 16:55:23
Absolutely Kev. Therevare games that need substance and ganes that need style. There will be plenty games where a player like Brown will be needed in the middle.

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14 Dec 2018 20:01:43
There is no substitute for experience and we are well short of it right through the spine of the team at present.
Obviously we have some very talented players, but Broony's leadership and example is still very important.

BR knows him more than most and he will have spoken to him about using him sparingly at certain times and the right games to play him.
I think he may move on at some point to ensure one last decent deal for his family's enjoyment and security, but I would love to see him on the coaching staff at Celtic Park, the same way NL was nurtured.

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14 Dec 2018 20:57:22
Rogic was struggling from the off a would have had broony on after 20 mins.

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{Ed007's Note - Without injuries I doubt Rogic would have lasted the 90 mins last night bur fair-doos he is actually lasting 90 mins these days.}

14 Dec 2018 21:16:43
Agree Kev Broonie had an impact on the game when introduced. We started keeping control of the ball a bit better and managed to string a few passes together. He still has it for me.

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14 Dec 2018 22:11:08
Correct ed he's looking fitter but last night he wasn't at it they were all over him from the off.

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{Ed007's Note - Rogic doesn't do enough for me, when we're on top and running amok he shines out but when we need some hard graft he's always missing. Playing in that No.10 CAM role he's meant to be the main focal point and string puller of our attack and outside of the Scottish game he's simply not good enough for me and it causes problems in our entire attacking dynamic of the team.
I did notice last night - and pointed it out on the live chat - that Rogic would pass the ball and then just stop running, at one point he bust a gut to touch a ball to Lustig I think in our own half, then just stopped as if that was his part of the job done.
Gordon frustrates me because he's never been good enough for Celtic, we took a cheap option that has probably paid off but looking back what could have been with a better modern GK, Lustig and even Brown now to an extent frustrate me because age is catching up with them and they're not the players they were, Forrest frustrates me just because he's James Forrest and might be just be goig through his usual purple patch BUT Rogic frustrates me because he can and should be more effective but at times he just doesn't seem THAT interested. People talk about his lack of pace and if he had that burst of speed he wouldn't be at Celtic but pace isn't everything, his brain and body just don't seem to function as a unit at times.}

14 Dec 2018 23:04:14
I think it was the way the team was set up that was the problem, they had studied it, and knew the best way, like a judo player used his opponents strengths against them, to put Celtic under pressure, I think Brown will still be able to do a job, but the midfield lacks something to take Celtic up a level, am talking about Rogic, we missed Boyata last night, (i mean Boyata, at his best) , so in the January Window, I hope we get a really classy right back, at least one outstanding centre back, and a creative midfielder, (I am not a fan of Rogic)

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15 Dec 2018 04:34:19
Scott Brown will play a lot of games because he is our captain and leader on the park and Brendan trusts him .

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14 Dec 2018 12:56:52
Rumour going around is that Theresa May has contacted Stevie G looking for some pointers in how to get out of Europe.

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14 Dec 2018 14:15:49
I think that's 2 wins out of their last six games? Imagine if that was Murty or Pedro. They are really enchanted and fooled by Sevco Steve and long may it continue.

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14 Dec 2018 16:35:10
It's ok, Union Jack, is happy as long as he gives master classes in press conferences.

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14 Dec 2018 12:01:04
Ok to all the Tims wondering if my ex bear pals paid up on their bet. YES THEY DID. I expected nothing less from these honourable gentlemen.
For those not in the know my ex bear pals bet me (when they had 5 points and Celtic 3) that Sevco would earn more Europa League points than us, of course I gleefully accepted the bet and today 2 crestfallen ex bears presented Mrs T with £500 each (they always give my winnings to Mrs T so she can get her share first lol) but Mrs T already was aware of my bets and money is going towards our family summer holiday, with some monies going to charity including our ED007 Foodbank appeal.

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{Ed007's Note - Gee, Tim I just got an e-mail alert about your latest donation - £100 on top of what you & the family have given already is well above and beyond buddy. I really can't thank you enough for your help this year as we're struggling for donations so far.
God bless you, Mrs T and the girls 🙏 and I hope you all have a great Christmas and New Year you've certainly helped other to have one.}

14 Dec 2018 12:55:02
As I told you ED007 I believe in Karma good and bad, spread the good Karma around.
Most of us know what it is like to struggle financially especially at Christmas, your foodbank should not be needed but sadly these foodbanks are now more needed than before.
Besides it stopped Mrs T giving me another tongue lashing lol
PS you can also thank 2 ex bears who fall hook line and sinker for all the sevco propaganda, give it a week and they will want another bet on them in next year's champions league ha ha.

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{Ed007's Note - The country's a mess, Tim and it's good (important?) to help out others if we can. Once again thank you so much.}

14 Dec 2018 14:15:38
Sorry ed av been meaning to donate, I'll do it now mate before it gets spent 👍.

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{Ed007's Note - Got it, Steph, thanks very much.}

14 Dec 2018 14:37:50
Well done Tim, will donate when I get paid ed, 20th.

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{Ed007's Note - Good lad, Brendan. I know how hard things are for folk without it being Christmas and don't want to folk to feel any pressure.}

14 Dec 2018 16:41:32
Think you can thank those ex bears this time ed. Well played Tim 💚 keep scooping their cash for many a year ha ha.

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{Ed007's Note - It was still Tim that gave it so the credit is all his imo.}

14 Dec 2018 19:50:25
hi Ed007! am long time reader of the site but after reading Tim’s post thought I had to donate as well
Can you let me know how to do so.

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{Ed007's Note - Hi JC, welcome aboard. Get yourself posting and joining in our live chats for games - the more the merrier 👍
There's a link at the top of the page (just above the posts under the main tabs) that will take you to the donation page but here it is:

www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/ed-007

And thank you very much.}

14 Dec 2018 10:51:51
First have to say we got LUCKY LUCKY last night but as others have said in the past we have been UNLUCKY losers so I will take our tag of Lucky losers lol
But how many howlers has Gordon now made in important games and he never seems to either learn from them or accept responsibility. But the whole team were poor last night and once again the players looked nervous as if the occasion got to them, yes Salsburg were pretty darn good but we made them look better with all our misplaced passes.
But to end on a positive Celtic are going to do another "Seville" lol.

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14 Dec 2018 11:33:58
Hope we don't do another Seville tim.

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14 Dec 2018 11:35:36
Tim it isn't Gordon's fault entirely for that howler, the manager instructs the players to play/ build from the back and it's nonsense. I wish the keeper would just punt it up the park like they used to do instead of having opposition players high pressing in our own 18 yard box. Honestly Jesus wept!

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14 Dec 2018 12:07:36
Malky it is all his fault you wouldn't see that mistake in an under 8s game come on it was a howler he had some great saves no doubt about that and would for once like to hear him admit his mistake he never does.

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14 Dec 2018 12:13:46
What a load of nonsense malkybhoy. It was 100% Gordons fault. Yes Brendan wants to play out from the back which can be frustrating at times but I guarantee he doesn't encourage reckless attempts to start play like last night.

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14 Dec 2018 12:19:41
Couldn't agree with you less Malky, Gordon was (and I'll use the old footballing cliche) 110% to blame for that goal. There are times for lumping the ball up and that wasn't it. The ball was safely in his arms! Playing out from the back is part and parcel of the modern game, especially at this level. Good teams show their class with calm defensive possession and direct penetrative play. Good teams also have big defenders who get to every ball that's lumped up to them, big defenders love that kind of game.
I would rather see us build than lose possesion.

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14 Dec 2018 12:25:54
If the team wasn't instructed to build from the back that howler would never have happened. Sorry guys but I will never be convinced with this building from the back nonsense! It gives me the fear😨.

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{Ed007's Note - It really helps if the 'keeper can play the ball out though, something Gordon has never been able to do.}

14 Dec 2018 12:42:27
Said the exact same thing last night, trying to circulate the ball is impossible with Gordon in goal. Exactly the same away to Salzburg and will continue to happen against teams who press us.

The game could have ended 0-0 last night and I would still be thinking the same thing.

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{Ed007's Note - I've been saying it for a while that we need a new GK but for me this summer a new 'keeper is as essential as any other position we need strengthened.}

14 Dec 2018 12:55:44
Lucky Lucky - I don't agree
Rosenbourg scored and earned a point. The fact that the point prevented Leipzig going second is neither here nor there. It was a draw so each team got their point.

Over the group games Celtic collected 9 points and finished second in the group. 2 points ahead of the third placed team.
No one handed us those 9 points for free.
Would you say then that these other teams who finished second in their groups were also lucky, lucky?
Lazio 9 points
Malmo FF 9 points
Rennes 9 points
BATE Borisov 9 points
Fenerbahce 8 points

Also, almost every team which finished in 3rd position in the groups had 7 points (the same as Leipzig in Celtic's group)
so, we earned the points to go second and qualify.

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14 Dec 2018 12:56:15
If you have the players that have the technical ability and confidence to do it then of course that helps but unfortunately we don't. You just have to look at Ajer and Jozo with the ball at their feet they look like nervous wrecks. Then there is the misplaced passes, the Boyata instance at Ibrox when he lost the ball to Windass. The manager must see he is asking players to do things they clearly are not comfortable doing and don't have the ability to do either. "Good teams show their class and calm defensive possession" when have we ever showed class and calm defensive possession jeez we got schooled at home from the mighty Salzburg. Yet everyone is quick to label our defenders bomb scares.

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14 Dec 2018 13:49:17
The howler was nothing to do with Salzburg pressing. the striker stands in front of the goalie to put him off he's 36 he should be used to it by now . building from the back is ok for me but i am sure Brendan has said if it's on, if not sky it, he leaves it up to the players to decide, they're all internationals and let's be honest if we just booted it up the park to eddy who's hold up play is average most on here would be going tonto.

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14 Dec 2018 14:14:06
I don't think Gordon saw the Salzburg striker tbh. if he did then that's even worse😂😂.

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14 Dec 2018 14:15:29
Ajer is not a nervous wreck with the ball at his feet. Yes he made a blunder last night but had just came back from injury and was out of his usual position.
More times than not the big man is good with the ball and can make some great lung bursting runs with it.

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14 Dec 2018 14:27:09
Kind of agreed with most of the above. Also was a complete howler. but have seen similar in a non under 8s game. Champions League final perchance? Anyway let's just enjoy and a big thank you to all for our, mostly, measured debate which makes this Forum what it is. Give yourselves a round of applause.

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14 Dec 2018 16:15:47
Ajer is one of the better passers in CB. He was rusty and hadn't been on and like mentioned out of position. Have always said on here Gordon has to have the worst distribution I've ever seen in a keeper and can't recall him ever saving a penalty for us either. Yes he made some good saves that's what he's paid to do but he's not paid to put it on a plate for the opposition. I don't get how he can't not see the player he was right in his face by the time he released the ball. That cost us a point and the open goal cost us the win.

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14 Dec 2018 22:17:36
It was a clear mistake by Gordon but I actually thought from a shot stopping perspective he was good, header in 5 minutes and 1 on 1 after Ajer mistake both very good saves!

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14 Dec 2018 23:01:08
Couldt agree more tiny tim this lucky nonsense and scraped through carry on does my nut in. Over 6 games we were better than Leipzig end of HH.

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{Ed007's Note - Did we not deserve to win the league last year after Aberdeen beat us at home in the final game - we had done enough over the previous 37 games and in a league the ONLY thing that matters is the final standings.}

14 Dec 2018 10:44:20
I'm a big fan of Edouard as I believe there's a real player there. He's still a young man and is developing but he really needs to step up his game espyin the absence of Griff. We looked like we had nothing going forward last night. I think an out and out striker should be a priority in January.

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14 Dec 2018 11:13:00
I like eddy as a player but he’s def not a no9 much prefer to see him play behind a main striker was looking forward to seeing him and Dembele getting a good run together.

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14 Dec 2018 11:49:37
Edouard is better out on the left, he's definitely not a No.9.

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14 Dec 2018 11:49:41
To be fair we were pressed back a lot last night and our passing trying to get out was poor.
He was chasing after the ball but couldn't hold it up enough for support.

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14 Dec 2018 12:08:31
Av said on here before his hold up play is not great but the boy can finish lot of work still to be done with him.

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14 Dec 2018 12:51:53
Agree, Larsson would have scored a barrel load with Eduoard providing. Think we should be looking for a predator to come in January.

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14 Dec 2018 14:37:32
Eduard like scott sinclair isn't a wide left player he is a young striker who needs to learn/ improve all aspects of his game his . we need a real left winger not another makeshift one.

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14 Dec 2018 16:18:45
We need a hold up striker. Playing both together would work. He does the holding up and Edouard links play or gets slipped in. Agree he's a decent finisher and probably better on the left than up front on his own.

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14 Dec 2018 10:26:59
Highly unlikely I know but I'd love us to push the boat out and try sign benkovic on a permanent deal. This boy is class and will only improve. Be interesting in January to see who we sign and in which positions, definitely needing some quality brought in and given the summers window let's hope January 's is better . Well done to The Bhoys on qualifying from a difficult group.

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14 Dec 2018 09:37:53
Hope the bam that through the missile is proud of himself absolute rocket he should go watch another team on the south side if that's yer bag.

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14 Dec 2018 10:22:03
What possesses these morons to launch coins etc onto the field of play is beyond me. Hope they catch the clown and ban him from Celtic park.

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14 Dec 2018 09:05:59
Well done Timalloy on getting another bet up against the suit and friends. that's even better than taking money off the bookies.
You could make a living from this.

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14 Dec 2018 08:58:47
let me see.
A lot of people saying Celtic got lucky!
We got 9 points which was more than the two teams below so we finished second in the group. This meant we qualified for the next round.

Note
Lazio second with 9 points
MalmoFF second with 9 points
Rennes second with 9 points
Bate Borisove second with 9 points
Fenerbahce second with 8 points

I don't call that luck. I call it qualifying.

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14 Dec 2018 09:08:36
I can recall the old rangers qualifying with 7 points, now that is what you call lucky.

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14 Dec 2018 09:23:07
Exactly. A rub of the green in Europe is way long overdue for us. We're there on merit.

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14 Dec 2018 09:43:00
Spot on tiny.

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14 Dec 2018 10:23:49
We got lucky because of the late goal from rosenburg . but deserved it for having more points . and if our finishing was sharper against Leipzig at home it wouldn't even have been a concern.

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14 Dec 2018 16:59:31
It's strange that because it came late it 's considered lucky. If Leipzig played a draw with Rosenborg in gameweek one then it wouldn't be so lucky would it. Funny the way the mind works.

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14 Dec 2018 23:26:20
There’s absolutely no justification whatsoever for calling it lucky. We won three games giving us more points than two of the teams in the group, one of which was ranked higher than us. Despite us putting them out of the competition this year, they’ll still be ranked higher than us next year and will get an easier passage into the CL or EL. I call that cheating but despite UEFA’s cheating, we’ve still progressed on merit. A lot of Celtic fans criticised the team for losing out on CL qualification to AEK Athens who they considered to be inferior opposition. I would expect those same Celtic fans to now acknowledge Celtic’s achievement in putting out Leipzig, a team who currently sit fourth in the Bundesliga.

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{Ed007's Note - Our team right now would qualify for the CL League against AEK, I said on another thread that the prizes for a league are gave out at the end, we lost our final league game to Aberdeen last season but we were still 7 times champions.}

15 Dec 2018 00:07:02
Agreed.

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{Ed007's Note - The thing that worries me already is that as things stand we will be going into the CL qualifiers without our first choice CB pairing, the same as Ronny did in his second season.}

15 Dec 2018 00:59:43
Who knows what our first choice CB pairing will be by then? Boyata could end up staying. Benkovic’s loan might get extended, we might sign someone, Broonie might move to CB. Compper might break his way into the team?

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14 Dec 2018 07:45:56
Went to bed last night in a huff thinking we were out what a surprise when I woke up. I will take it any day, Well done tim, extra money for Christmas.

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14 Dec 2018 01:24:25
Right just as I settle down for the night in sunnier climes here are my thoughts. for what they are worth.
Didn't see all of the game. long, long story, and understand we were not great but how many times have we been good and denied a result. Juve penalty 3 2 etc. etc.
As far as I'm concerned we are through and I will take that. ok things we need to improve upon etc but let's just enjoy the moment. COYBIG. Glasgow is truly Green and White.

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14 Dec 2018 07:09:38
At the end of the day we deserved to qualify as we performed better than leipzig and rosenborg in the group.

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14 Dec 2018 08:54:58
correct. We got 9 points and the team below us did not - so we are through.

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