Celtic Banter Archive December 14 2014

 

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14 Dec 2014 19:29:16
Any idea what time the EL draw is tomorrow?

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14 Dec 2014 22:05:50
think I heard it was at 1pm mate

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It's at 12 live on Eurosport

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14 Dec 2014 18:53:48
I think we should have a right good look at Pjaca from Zagreb. Hat-trick against us and he scored again tonight. He's still a teenager and I believe he's already been capped by Croatia. A nippy winger with a definite end product, the type of player we Celtic fans come out to see. Maybe wishful thinking though because I'll bet there's a fair few teams watching him.

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Apparently dortmund and Manchester United are interested mate

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14 Dec 2014 21:37:28
Hi ed any idea why the playing surface at CP is in such poor condition.Some are saying it's because it's a new surface others because of commonwealth games.killy

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{Ed007's Note - It can't be anything to do with the CGs, an all new specially grown turf from Holland was laid after the CGs finished.}

Nothing good ever came out of Holland 🐸🐣

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Thanks Ed I have never seen it so bad after only 16 games including the internationals.killy.

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Didn't henrik come from feyenoord lol

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16 Dec 2014 01:04:53
I am right in sayin ed it was grown with the grass laid in the bernabue(spelling)

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{Ed007's Note - The new surface is very similar to those used in the Amsterdam Arena and the Bernabeu. Don't ask me what the hell it means but it has been described as being able able to 'repair itself'.}

Hopefully it will soon start to repair itself .

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14 Dec 2014 16:54:59
Anyone heard anything about the extent of JGs injury? It looked like a bad one

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Hi rglen, there saying it is just a knock not serious mate

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14 Dec 2014 15:16:42
Am just realising how much results went for us yesterday, as quick minded as a lot of people are on here surprising it never got flagged up

A healthy wee lead going into xmas (y)

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14 Dec 2014 13:17:52
15 minutes gone 3 clear cut chances for st Mirren . 1 goal, and 1 disallowed. What is it with our defence that they can't cope with the worst team in the league? We may well come good and win the game well but it will be paperovering the cracks at the back. We need to start again regarding our defence, individually they are great but as a unit they defend like a Sunday team. Markie

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The marking for the goal was pathetic and there was no excuse as we had everyone back , but Deila's philosophy is different than all the managers we have had this century . Deila is trying to build a team that will almost always score 3/4 goals and more . In scoring freely, goals can be and will be conceded, but we shouldn't concede from set pieces . Today's goal was unforgivable . I noticed Brown in the second half doing what someone should always do, defend the man at the back post . Izzy is a tremendous left back but he hasn't the physique to man -mark a player in that position . So Brown showed again how valuable he is to us.

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Totally agree Markie I been saying for a while its not the players its the way we play. If you notice when we press high and the opposition get passed it we are wide open and this is the problem. There is nothing wrong with the pressing game if we do it right and stagger when we do it so teams don't know when its coming, but if you do it all the time the better teams will see it coming and play 1 touch quick passes past us which as I said leaves us wide open. We all want attacking football but not at all costs.

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I know guys. We simply have to defend better if we want to have any chance in the next round in Europe. Zagreb took 4 of us and it could have been more defending like that. Whoever we get next round will be better than Zagreb and a lot better than St Mirren. Also worrying is playing against the rotten mob across the road defending like that. Before the 'Ronny can do no wrong' brigade come on and say we won 4-1 what more can he do? Some people are never happy. I was and have been delighted with some of the football played today and recently in the opposition half of the park, but even they must see the need for a vast improvement in our defensive displays if we want to continue our good runs in the cup competitions. Markie

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You simply cannot defend like that in Europe.

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Markie main problem defensively is Ambrose. Any team line up with Ambrose I expect goals conceeded. He is absolutely hopeless. With Denayer injured, we don't have decent cover hence reason for Ambrose starting.

January I think it fairly obvious a CB will be brought it to address problem

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I agree with you DN30 about Ambrose, but I remember having these debates about how many goals we were leaking when Denier was playing. And also Mathews has been very poor Defensively, although I know Lustig will make a big difference. I honestly think we need a big no nonsense center half who just defends. Someone like Wilson. Markie

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DN 30 you are wrong the problem is not Ambrose, it is Virgil he is never in the centre back position. He rigidly sticks to the left of the field and always leaves the smaller defender Efe or Jason to challenge with the main forward of the opposition, he should take command and go and win the first header. Ambrose covered a lot for the defence today and to be honest. I am sick of him being scapegoated, in the last four league games he has played we have lost one goal, I sometimes don't think people watch the game. The St mirren goal came about because we let them put three players at the back post unchallenged

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DN 30 I think it is crazy every time there is a discussion about the Celtic defence Ambrose is blamed, sometimes even when he isn't playing .
Ambrose is as good if not better than any of our defenders. Of course he gets caught in posession but with his speed he recovers and gets the ball away . It wouldn't take the fingers of one hand to count the number of goals that come from Ambrose mistakes in any season . He makes up for any carelessness on the ball for his using his speed and reading of the game to cover for the fans "favourite " Virgil and the R B

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I doubt Deila will want a big no nonsense centre half . I think Deila's football philosophy is all about everyone playing football. Us getting the ball and keeping, so there is no role for big burly stoppers like Balde and midfielders that cannot pass the ball quickly either . Deila wants to get the ball forward under control quickly and keep the ball up there, even after we lose it . Unlike our last 4/5 managers a goal conceded now is not the disaster it was then .

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@DN wasn't Ambrose part of the defense that has the shut out record?

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@chris02 Every player regardless of position has a bad playing day. With Ambrose, the mistakes are crucial ones that are becoming more regular no matter who he is paired up with.

I think Van Dijk is a good player, however I think he is overrated. If he is not away January I can see him away at end of season. Need an experienced CB in january and realistically another CB at end of season if Van Dijk is away and Denayer doesn't sign on loan again.

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How do you make out Ambrose mistakes are any more crucial than any other player. Ambrose usually clears up his mistakes because he has the speed to recover . Some people blame Ambrose for been responsible for giving opponents an opening when in fact it is his good reading of the game and speed that gets him over towards the danger, created by slack defending by others .

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14 Dec 2014 12:28:02
I think he has put our our strongest possible 11 (Lustig for Mathews apart) I hope today is the day we put all the chances away that we have been creating. Someone is due a doing and today could be the day. 6-1 celtic gudetti stokes and Forrest to score. Markie

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I am always happy with 4 or 5 -1 victories as I have often seen in the past big victories by any team of say seven or eight goals are often followed by the team scoring a blank or losing to the same team later in the season .

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14 Dec 2014 10:19:08
Ed, your lack of love for Griffiths is well noted but why on earth is he not getting more game time? Setting aside his off-field antics, is there another reason why he isn't used more? When he plays he looks sharp and surely that would only get better with more time on the pitch.
Does he get on ok with Mr. Deila and the coaching staff? Is he gelling as a member of the squad in training etc?
I think he is a potential class act for us if only he could get a run in the team.

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{Ed007's Note - I expect Hibs to try again in January to take Griffiths on loan.}

Yeah I read that myself. It seems to be a recurring theme with him and Hibs and I know he supports them but I still don't understand why he isn't getting a game based on football matters alone.
He's good enough to do a job in my opinion, certainly better than Stokes.

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Chrisbhoy, I think you posted before the game today . A. Stokes had quite a good game today and it's by no means certain that Griffiths would have been better.

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14 Dec 2014 23:24:13
While I agree that Griffiths is a decent player I would like to ask you: Do you think Griffiths is a better striker than Guidetti? Do you think he is a better right winger than Forrest? Do you think he is a better number 10 than Johansen? Do you think he is a better left winger than Stokes? You might think he is but Deila doesn't and that is why he is not playing.

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We'll never know if he doesn't get a decent run in the team. That's my point Rab.
There may be other reasons why he isn't getting a game, and that's my question. I don't think anyone can say "he isn't good enough" because the guy hasn't been given the long runs in the team that those other players you mention have.
I do think he's better than Stokes overall and my kitten is better than Florist!

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