Celtic Banter Archive August 14 2015

14 Aug 2015 22:51:05
Now that the deal for SA is done just like to add my bit to the debate. Personally I think this is the best bit of business we have done this window

With DMcG & LH heading the other way I think we will get LH back a battle hardened , better player naturally we hope also that he returns a championship winner given Hibs have young Keatings there too they should gel/knit very well given they have played together (y)

14 Aug 2015 23:26:09
I agree Jamiebhoy I think a Henderson loan was always on the cards, at 19 the lad ain't going to get anywhere near the mins for us as he will with Hibs. Its a competitive league and is in a team where the fans expect them to win every week. We could potentially have a much more rounded player in our ranks next season (at which point God knows who in our midfield will be sold). We are sitting watching games where we can't find that killer pass to unlock teams, relying on Commons who is not a guy you can play every game. The one thing Allen has is a creative player with great passing, not to mention the lad gets stuck in! Johanson has his benefits but passing ain't 1. Add a ST and a LB (and if possible a winger) and I will be a happy Bhoy

14 Aug 2015 22:34:20
I have said from the mid of last season that Scott Allan was a decent player, and that we should look at him , the only drawback was where do we fit him in.
When the Bhoy pulls on the hoops then we support him.
Im sure RD knows he can fit him in and how he will be utilized,

14 Aug 2015 19:07:39
Listen guys it wasn't so long ago that the dark side seemed to sign every player we were after Like Alan mclaren Gordon petric to name 2 so whether you think Scott Alan is a good player or not it doesn't matter let's just enjoy the fact that we have trumped them to sign someone they thought was 1 of their own. Hail Hail

14 Aug 2015 18:22:35
I am confused by our signing policy,
Buying young to sell on is self defeating as you can never built a team that progresses rather you have to rebuilt each year never improving on previous years. Larssen left because we failed to invest after Seville. We have never solved our problem left back slot since Tom Boyd 20years ago from Seville to today we have had a fault at LB yet we have 4 players who can play RB. WTF. Now we have paid money for a player we could have had for free 12 months ago (see my posts from way back) what are we paying scouts for.
Also we now have 5 players competing for 1 position just off the striker Commons, Johannsen, Rogic, Allen and Henderson on loan.
Yet when brown is missing we lack bite in central midfield, again we sell 3 players all great or good in that role, Wanyama sold too early, Invine and Mcgeogh. I understand Allen in that when Commons went off on Wednesday we lost creativity but others need to step up. We seem overloaded with players in one role yet lack cover in others

14 Aug 2015 20:18:43
No ace you are spot on. I keep waiting for someone to unveil the big plan. RD coming in, progressing in a new direction with new coach and new methods. In reality we got RD on the cheap, he is still learning and Celtic is a big big job. Qualith of players we are buying has gone backwards. Attendances getting smaller. Why because we don't play attractive football. We have loads of average midfield players sitting in Behind an average striker. This team is going to need a complete rebuild. If RD goes a new manager is going to come into a team of midfielders. This is all starting to look like a car crash.

14 Aug 2015 22:39:58
It's easy to sit on a high horse and deliver condemnation of what our manager does . How do we know that we could get Scott Allen for free in twelve months? As far as I know he will be free to sign for anyone in twelve months , in fact he could sign for anyone on a pre-contract in January . Maybe Deila sees Allen as a direct replacement for Commons who is coming towards the end of his career . It would make perfect sense to bring Commons replacement in now so that Ronny could develop him to be ready for next season .

Most people know that if Celtic had continued spending in the way that O'Neil had spent in his first twelve/ eighteen months Celtic would have gone into financial difficulties.

14 Aug 2015 15:58:08
I see that someone on the rumours page is asking if there is any truth re us taking a LB fron Aston villa on loan. Personally, I don't like loan deals unless they come with an option to buy. I also have to agree with most posters that we seem to come out all recent windows weaker than we go in. I cannot believe that businessmen like DD & PL do not want to invest in the long term future of Celtic unless they have an exit plan in mind for the coming years.

14 Aug 2015 22:47:31
How does DD invest in the long term future of Celtic , maybe if he took over the EPL and put Celtic in , that would be about the only way I could ever see a return on his money .

15 Aug 2015 00:55:12
Id imagine the directors are making money, they would not be about if they were not.

15 Aug 2015 05:36:45
I imagine the Directors who deserve to earn money do so. They wouldn't be on the Board unless they had some expertise to bring to the club . The club wouldn't have them unless they had something to offer .

14 Aug 2015 13:41:29
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14 Aug 2015 10:55:32
I can understand people saying that Scott Allen is not a priority but he is a good footballer and strengthening your squad surely can never be a bad thing, especially when we are going to be fighting on 4 fronts this season. Just because we are trying to sign Scott Allen doesn't mean we are no longer looking for a CB, LB and CF. Like Ronny said, let's wait and see what the squad looks like on 1st Sept. I have every faith that we will fill the problem positions by then, although the calibre of player brought in will surely depend on the result of the Malmo tie.

14 Aug 2015 11:19:57
Sorry Kev but how is signing a 2nd tier footballer and possibly giving 2 players and cash in return strengthening our squad we already have too many squad players. Ronny has spoken of developing our youth well I don't see it myself he gave Dylan an extension clearly to be a bargaining tool and is the club giving Tierney a contract to get a development fee or to actually use him? We are trying to be a champions league team yet are setting our targets low. Sometimes in life you get what you deserve I hope we don't get Europa league but our signing policy isn't very ambitious is it.

14 Aug 2015 11:30:34
Buy young christie also two good you ng players . if one kicks on to be first team regular and other squad player then for the low output imo good bit of busines

14 Aug 2015 12:01:20
Henderson going on loan to Hibs can only be a good thing surely? He'll start every week for a team that like to get the ball on the deck and play good football, while playing under the pressure of being expected to win every week. Can only be good for his development, he's still very young. Better for him than coming off the bench for 10 minutes at a time once or twice a month!

14 Aug 2015 12:45:32
So where does Allan get game time with us? Surely if your going to make an effort to sign Allan he will want assurance of games this season so I would rather give that game time to a prospect who is no worse than Allan and try to encourage our youths that you can play with us if their good enough

14 Aug 2015 13:13:04
This signing is in the same scale as Wayne Biggins.

14 Aug 2015 13:26:29
Jim1972 personally I'd rather have Allan than McGeough so imo we are strengthening because we'll also get Henderson back with a full season under his belt because he'll get a lot more game time with His than he will here. Like I said, if we qualify I think we will make one or two higher quality signings but obviously we'll need to wait and see if I'm proven right or wrong.

14 Aug 2015 14:00:02
The Scott Allen deal says it all. How does he strengthen the team but you can guarantee that as soon as he is available and paperwork done Ronnie will have him on the bench and he will get game time until he realises yet again that he has or someone has signed a player that will add no class to the side. He will be gone in 2 seasons. Who is he better than that plays in midfield. He is no better than Liam Henderson and he can't get a game!

14 Aug 2015 15:05:16
Wow, I don't remember ever hearing this much negativity about summer signings. Give the guy a chance fs.

14 Aug 2015 16:28:12
He will be given a chance just like every other signing. The problem is the board show no ambition, never have really, they're happy as long as our noses are in front of the other lot. I'm not and am sure most others are the same. I want to challenge properly in Europe, I'm not on about winning the champions league just giving a good account of ourselves IF we get there. It goes back to strachans second season, we had the chance to bury the shame and never pushed on. It's about time we invested in cl players not scraping round the lower leagues pickin up bargains thatve got a 50/50 chance at best whether they'll cut it or not.

14 Aug 2015 16:42:34
I feel for young Henderson as he went on loan to Rosenborg and apparently did a good job and has come back a more experienced player and is now being shunted again because he finds himself behind Rogic and McGregor in the managers plans.
It seems this Celtic squad are over loaded with midfielders (and I include Izzaguire in this as he is not a defender) and a bit short of quality finishers and solid defenders.
McGeough had chances to impress, but obviously hasn't taken them but neither have Boerighter, Stokes, Scepovic and a couple of others have had more than enough opportunities - so can we expect more players in and out this month?

14 Aug 2015 18:30:14
Kevbhoy, Scott Allan is a Championship player. What is there to get excited about there? Saw him a few times last year look decent in Championship but not outstanding. He will fill the bench, in no way is he a Celtic first team starter. Having said that the way we are going he might just be if our transfer policy keeps going backwards. We are now buying players from lesser rivals and now lower league clubs. That policy won't put bums on seats. Will be lucky if there is 40,000 there tomorrow. Something is seriously wrong here. Last season I thought it couldn't get any worse, I was wrong!

14 Aug 2015 22:05:50
Who says every signing needs to be an automatic starter? Like I said, in my opinion he's a better player than McGeough so what we've done is swap one fringe player for a better one. I fail to see how that's a bad idea, if and when he gets on the pitch I have every confidence he'll be a decent player for us.

14 Aug 2015 22:52:16
According to some people we might as well sack Deila now , he is spending our money foolishly and we can't afford that .
I am surprised a club with so many fans posting on forums doesn't heed these people who evidently know who we should and should not sign .

14 Aug 2015 04:06:01
Not football related but just a tip to fellow posters. Never use an emptish bottle from choice of carry out for the night as a makeshift ashtray. (Dont even smoke anymore, had a drunken lapse). just got bottles mixed up and had a lovely swig of a foul bottle. To make matters worse, bought missus to be a wee puppy to cheer her up after recent miscarriage and the little bugger has missed training pad. Idiot of a bhoy lol

14 Aug 2015 06:37:28
So sorry for your loss DN30 I wish you and your lovely lady all the best in the future

14 Aug 2015 06:51:23
Thanks Tony, I appreciate it. One of they things you hear about but don't think it would happen to you. Absolutely gutted

14 Aug 2015 07:10:13
DN30 happened to my sister twice but now she has got two lovely children. I'm sure it will work out for you and your wife in the future. On another note have just experienced a sleepless night due to our new puppy. Thought that would be a thing of the past now that the kids have all grown up 😩😩😩

14 Aug 2015 08:02:34
Tragic dn30 hope u and the good women are doing ok bud horrible thing sis went through that not nice so thoughts and well wishes mate hail hail

14 Aug 2015 08:40:49
Sorry to hear about your loss dn30 same thing happened to us twice but have a great bhoy and ghirl now so take care of each other and good luck. On a lighter note hope your little bugger is your dog😉

14 Aug 2015 13:19:10
Sorry for your loss DN.

14 Aug 2015 14:11:53
Sorry to hear that DN30. All the best to you and your Mrs.

14 Aug 2015 23:07:36
Sorry for your loss Dn30 . My wife and I lost two babies 10 years apart .

14 Aug 2015 00:24:00
Well can anyone explain the logic behind paying 275k plus mcgeouch permanent and Henderson on loan for Allen. In my opinion he is no better than Hendo. Very strange you would think we're trying to strengthen Hibs!

14 Aug 2015 03:51:52
Sounds to me Henderson is not rated highly @. stevie. Is this going to be another good prospect we will lose?