Celtic Banter Archive August 14 2013

14 Aug 2013 21:15:55
I just read a very interesting daily record article amido balde has apparently had a conversation with Fraser Forster in the shower about big fra fitting in at benfica he told Fraser that they are a big club with good players just like celtic and he would fit in no probs! I find that very funny because last week Neil Lennon said that its very hard for the lad because he doesn't speak one word of English yet the record says he had this conversation in the shower with Forster another fabricated story by the sounds of things.

You would think the reporters notepad would have been soaking and the ink would have been running everywhere . Serious in depth journalism indeed. DH

To be fair Forster is from north east of England and speaks like he has his fist in his mouth so any conversation between him and someone who speaks Portuguese has to have been a fabricated story

If you wiped your ar** with that paper more shi* would come off the paper.

Frewbhoy

Things need to be spun due to the latest sevco fiasco mate.Aberdeen then Europe, look for negative stories till after the games. green jhedi

It is time that celtic pr department earn their corn and challenge these false reports which are to disrupt the club quite a few stories to distract with cl qualifiers next week

Also when we used to play against the currant buns the media mainly the dr would try and whip everybody into frenzy in the week running up to the game and sit back and hope for carnage and then get all high and mighty hail hail mm {Ed007's Note -

@5 and do what? This pile of crap has been dissing our club for years. I think it actually says something about our club that it doesn't challenge the nonesense coming from this rag. Don't buy it and if it's laying around on a table at work, don't read it. This is not a newspaper, it's a sevco propaganda leaflet.

BigRab

14 Aug 2013 20:19:29
Would of been good to see hooper start for England tonight. In my eyes a no-brainer seein as he was terrorising half the Scotland team last season!?

S4mmy1888

14 Aug 2013 21:57:43
he was stretchered off in norwich's last pre season game.

From the starting line up only Brown and Forrest played in the SPL last year, and they played for us so he wasn't terrorising them. About 3 others in the squad played SPL football. Hooper is not fit enough, fast enough or technically good enough to play for England. Good player for us in SPL, worked hard in Europe and scored a few goals but probably isn't even in England's top 10 for strikers just now.
cw-88 {Ed007's Note - If England have got 10 better out and out goal scorers than Hooper I've yet to see any.}

None of the Scotland defence play here though. green jhedi

Seriuosly I thought that was some alky in george square oh wait a minute it was ally mm

Out and out goal scorers. If the following players were played in the centre forward role, not out wide or in midfield, and played the same number of games in the premier league, in my opinion they will score more goals than Gary Hooper this year : Rooney, Walcott, Sturridge, Lambert, and Defoe. Then there are other players like Carroll, Crouch, Zaha and Wellbeck who will be played for other reasons, I.e target man or to stretch the game out wide in forward areas. I think Hooper is a good player but just not as good an all rounder which you need at international level. I hope he can prove me wrong and score a barrel load this season but I just can't see it happening.
cw-88 {Ed007's Note - And if your Aunt had b*lls she would be your uncle. Rooney isn't an out and out striker, Zaha is a winger and Welbeck and Defoe are just muck. Crouch and Carroll will probably never get another cap between them and Lambert could be the same unless it is in another friendly.}

Hooper is better than half the players mentioned. If it was back in the mid to late 90s when England had the likes of Shearer, Sheringham, Cole, Wright, Fowler, Sutton, Owen and Le Tissier to choose from I don't think Hooper would get a game but England have limited options now.

I agree with Bond, Rooney is not quite mobile enough to play as the out and out striker and wants too many touches.

Of the other options, Sturridge is good and is Walcott, but Hooper is a better finisher than either.

However I would say that Lambert, Le fondre are also worth a try. Englands problem is that the want the striker to double up as the flair player. Where as most successful team use the striker as finisher.

Gerd Muller was the perfect example of that. Not a great player but scored goals for fun at international level.

Suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, but in the last 3 years while Hooper has been scoring for fun, all of these guys have been in the squad, friendly or competitive and whether they have been scoring for their clubs or not.
cw-88

If hooper was better than those players why did Norwich sign him an not spurs Liverpool etc please explain ed because what your saying is deluded


YNWA {Ed007's Note - Liverpool/Norwich, potato/tomato. Why did you sign off YNWA? It's not something The Rangers/Sevco fans usually do. Not exactly the brightest are you?}

14 Aug 2013 19:02:10
Is it just me or does it seem as if every Scotland manager seems to pick the same players ie Whittaker and miller or is someone else picking the team I wouldn't have Whittaker or miller near the team as for Hanley at centre back what's wrong with Charlie mulgrew I was feeling good about strachan being Scotland boss but after this team I'm starting to change my mind

Hoopybhoy

14 Aug 2013 19:38:14
To be fair mate mulgrew was pretty gash against wales hanley scored against wales and done a job in croatia as did whittaker miller is nothing more than a sentimental thing because he's pish

Agreed, even just for his free kicks Charlie should be in that team, miller before Rhodes yer having a laugh. But broonie is in do c'mon BROONIE GIVE THEM HELL.

Darrenbhoy

14 Aug 2013 17:49:15
I have the feeling that the spin at parkhead is now in full flow! No new major signings in this week and now it's leaked of a possible bid of 5 million for our keeper. Could it be the and L will come out and say no we are not selling? To make us all think they are doing well by us? It's a season old ploy, every year that we are fed, as not to spend any major money, no doubt by the end of the week, benfica will say there was no bid made, and we will be told that joe ledley has signed a new deal( which would be great ) but it's covering the cracks, really don't think we will spend 5 million on a player, more likely a loan deal

14 Aug 2013 16:14:15
anyone else think we are getting led up the garden path with this finnbogason, end up with another miku or lassad on transfer deadline day.

Of course we are its the celtic way but then you get the gullable who believe everything that comes out from PL, NL or the celtic pr department.
tsd

14 Aug 2013 14:09:25
Question for Ed. If we were to sign Philipp Hosiner then would he be cup tied for the Champions League group stage if we got there? {Ed007's Note - Only if Wien qualified for the group stages as well.}

14 Aug 2013 01:08:39
Big shout out to Clark Carlisle for making that programme tonight about depression in football. 1 in 4 people in their lifetime will have ti deal with mental health so why the big stigma?
I'm unlucky enough to say I suffered depression for the best part of 5 years but I'm through the worst and with the support of friends and family (Celtic included) I've kept going.
Love this site
Hail hail fellow Celts
Kevbhoyo {Ed007's Note - That programme has been shown a few times recently Kev. I don't think that the 1 in 4 stat is accurate, I actually think it is more common than that. Nice to hear you are doing well though, chin up mate.}

Good post kevbhoyo we need to be more open about this subject and remove the stigma take care hail hail mm

Great post Kevbhoy. Glad to hear you are doing well mate. Hail Hail


Stevensee88

Good to here your doing better kev and it's brave if you to be so open and honest sadly many keep things bootled up until it's to late. I personally have suffered terrible low's in the past now I don't know if it was depression but I found speaking about things with friends and family eased the burden keep your chin up mate you'll never walk alone
thommyj

14 Aug 2013 13:14:32
Finnbogason will be a Celtic player by the end of the transfer window. Mark my words.

~seamus~

14 Aug 2013 16:05:55
Heres hoping . but that's just YOUR guess work. certainly nothing suggesting this anywhere else!
The Bazman el FooF

I suppose if you guess for long enough you will finally get one right.

But given that umpteen other people have said the same, you are hardly going out on a limb.

MgC

14 Aug 2013 12:24:18
Just watched Sly Sports. The reporter in Trafalgar square talking to Scotland fans. What an absolute embarrassment. Bunch of drunken persons screaming about Bannockburn with kilts on .
No wonder the English laugh at us when these persons are calling themselves the greatest fans going.

Joeshmo1888

Couldnt agree more joe. What a total embarassment this morning on the train to glasgow at 7:45, sitting in their kilts drinking strongbow. Just total neds, using football as an excuse for some sort of retaliation invasion for the battle of Culloden. Ill watch the game tonight, in the house with a cup of tea. These meaningless international friendlies do nothing but cause injuries.

@jockdj83

This tartan army nonsense makes me laugh.They have become a parody of themselves.Doh a deer!. green jhedi

Do they not know they are being ridiculed by the smug, patronising SLY.
The fans are living up to the 'See-you-Jimmy' caricature we all despise.
However the comments and antics of a lot of them are pure dead mortifyin man!

JJ

Thats one arrested for dancing naked in a fountain nice one hope no kids seen that mm

I like the fun of a lot of it including the GB. However, we all mature (mostly) and see things differently. Naked in a fountain when there are tourists includimng women and kids is not just disgraceful it is illegal. The TA members get up to a lot of fun (remember the flag from Bannockburn going on holiday to France, slagging off the FA who tried to stop Scots supporters getting to Wembley etc.etc. All good fun). At least Scotland supporters are recognised as not being neanderthal knuckle draggers like the yobs wrecking every city the Ingerlund team play in. TinyTim

14 Aug 2013 11:13:20
How about Junior Malanda as a replacement for big Vic, he has just completed a good season on loan in Belguim and returned to Wolfborg and at only 19 I don't see him getting into the Wolfborg team and also fits our signing policy.

14 Aug 2013 09:53:09
I wish all the moaners on here would get off the club's back. So we've not signed anyone for a couple of weeks, who cares- we've been handed 3 kind draws in the CL qualifiers and I'd expect us to go thru comfortably against Team Borat, in fact I expect the tie to be over after the first leg.

We've already signed a few players this summer and spent some money, I don't want to see us held to ransom on some guy who, albeit scored 28 goals in holland last season, is a bit of a risk. His record in Belgium was very poor and the dutch league is hardly a major league anymore.

as for Forster, 5m euros is a bit low given he's got 3 yrs on his contract but if we can get £7/8m i'd take it, he's far from irreplaceable and that would be a great piece of business.

Sit tight bhoys, we'll make the group stage again, win the league and at least 1 cup. We're stock piling money by the million and in a few years will be one of the cash-richest clubs in europe. guys like finbogason will come and go, in two years time we may well have forgotten his name, just like. what's his name we tried to sign.

I would not necessarily have a go at the board just yet however they need to remember fans support a Football team and not a balance sheet. Obviously we do not want to see overspending or reckless spending however we are looking for a replacement for Gary Hooper not Maradona or Messi. ~ Mrs E

Not really sure i'm that bothered about us being cash rich, would be quite happy to break even and have a better team on the pitch, think we have liquidated enough of our assets without selling our keeper as well, about time we signed someone to bring a smile to our faces. they don't have to cost a fortune. EddieK

No name poster - so we will qualify with ease, wish I like many others shared that same belief.
we have a stronger squad now vs last year? don't think so.
We reach the group stage then what? Dreaming of another last 16? Not with the current playing staff.
Cash rich, that's brilliant. I look forward to the h/t entertainment when the finance dept bring out lovely spreadsheets and regale us with tales of how much money we have. Oh that's right, I wont. I go to see the team play winning, attractive football.
Stevo Dundee

Are you aware that Alfie's record in Belgium was.

Played 15 (8 starts, 7 sub appearances), scored 4, assisted 1 in 762 mins?

That is far from a poor record, more a case of not being given a chance for what ever reason.

OP here - I was logged in when I posted but for some reason my signature did not appear.

I just think we're looking for things to complain about that aren't there. Who's to say finbogason would cut it in the SPL - plenty haven't with a good record elsewhere (rasmussen, miku, brozek, bangura). I don't want another £4-5m flop like rafael or juarez hanging over us

Hooper and Wilson had their reasons for wanting to leave, and I respect them, nothing the club could have done about it. As for Wanyama- no way we could turn down that bid, I don't blame the board for selling at all.

14 Aug 2013 08:15:31
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news everyone, but even if we signed Finbogason tomorrow, (which is unlikely anyway) he COULD NOT play against Shaktar as it takes 5 working days to get a visa, so time restrictions alone rule out a signing.
So we will now only sign a player if we make group stages of CL. Timalloy

Surely Lenny feels we have enough to get through Timalloy? This will be tricky but the problems will be the pitch and the travelling.The simple fact is if we don't beat them with what we have then some questions need to be answered. green jhedi

Any player wouldn't be able to play in Kazakhstan but they would be available for the home leg.

G93

Totally agree and posted the same point yesterday.

The pressure is off Celtic to buy anyone for now. We cannot field anyone for the away tie and surely don't need anyone at Celtic park?
Lets see if the Germans were really buying him for big money or whether it was a ruse to up the price for us.
PL is an extremely cool customer. I'll wager if we drew rapid Vienna, finnbogasson would have been at Celtic park the day after the draw.

Timalloy I am sure he could be granted a short notice visa if he signs