Celtic Banter Archive November 13 2011

13 Nov 2011 21:18:44
Let's have a wee laugh. FF81 the renaming joke yesterday has given me this idea......
The Ministry of Defence, a well known toy company and a major gaming company have come together to rename Ibrox the new name will be ........
SOLDIERS "R" WII
LOL Timalloy

Nae joke Timalloy...I'm all for renaming the stadium but want something 'nice'. Given Willie Haughey's involvement..i really don't want it called City Refrigeration (unless its worth £50m at least) - Mrs E

Evening Mrs E, I said a couple of days ago that Celtic were in talks with Coca Cola some years ago about the renaming rights but the timing was not right, maybe now is the time to approach them again, and sorry Mrs E my silly side says if "City refrigeration" are also involved at least our cokes will be nice and cold ha ha Lol timalloy

Good one Tim lol
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Tim you should know when a mans coke is cold it shrivels up and doesn't rise to the occasion lol. Sorry about that Mrs E.
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Mmmm..FF81, what team do you follow, follow ?

I prefer a cuppa tea at half-time myself, just have to watch they don't score & I end up wearing my hot tea. - Mrs E

Darren fletcher

13 Nov 2011 18:14:30
Good Evening ED007, I would like to say about the charges being brought against us for pro IRA chanting at Rennes game, I was there with my nephews and at the time was unaware of these chants, so it could not have been widespread.
If as now suggested, it was some members of the Green Brigade I would say this to them. There is nobody more proud of their Irish/Roman Catholic roots than myself, but I would ask the GB to examine their consciences and stop these stupid political songs. Do the Green Brigade want to be remembered for these songs, or for all the real good they have brought to Celtic Park with their repetoire of good and funny songs, their part in the Thai Tims etc.. the much improved atmosphere at home games, these are what we should all THANK the GB for, so come on guys, if you are TRUE Celtic fans, put Celtic first and cut out all these other songs.
We all know there are certain people, only too anxious to tar us with same brush as our bigoted Govan neighbours, do not give them any more reasons. I just Can't Get Enough, hail hail Timalloy {Ed007's Note - Good evening Tim.}

Tim you can't say it's the Rangers fans that's bigoted it's rife at every club. Rangers have tried for a few years now to stamp it out as has Celtic but you still get a minority of drunk fans that still sing those songs. More so at away games as you will know if you go to away games. I don't here any sectarian songs at Ibrox but if I did I wouldn't buy my 6yr old son a season ticket every year if that was the case. As for away games it's only Hampden and St Mirren's park he's been to and the stuff those fans sung was sick and wouldn't take him back. We all know the problem is the away games with supporter full of the drink. But I've seen a big improvement in those games especially this season. So don't tar every Rangers fan as a bigot. Is it not Celtic that's under investigation? So why try and turn it on us?

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Did anybody have a wee flutter on the horses I posted yesterday? Sorry about the gold cup one (Mon Parrain) but I hope that you backed the other one (Rebel Song).
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Followfollow81, I take most of your points on board, there are more decent rangers fans than the morons, but sadly, I still think rangers have the bigger problem still, your banned songs are all sectarian, while ours are political ones, a difference. I said to cut out all these political songs, but I genuinely believe there are people in the press, the SNP and even among the police who want to lump us in with the worst of Rangers fans, we Celtic fans should realise this and not give them the opportunity. Timalloy
PS FF81 yes good one with your Rebel Song tip that is you 2 winners in two weeks well done

Tim, surely if you have an intolerance to your Govan neighbours, that would make you a bigot. Think first, probably every single person in the planet is a Bigot in some way. Majorly overused word these days. {Ed007's Note - What complete drivel. How does not liking Rangers make you a bigot? Did you re-read this before you posted it?}

Ed, the fact anyone has an intolerance to anothers views or beliefs, is a sign of bigotry. i have an intolerance of paedos and rapists................so, therefore etc. whether you agree or not does not matter. {ed007's note - That is a different matter altogether, I can't believe you stooped so low as to compare disliking a football team to things like that, away and grow up. I have far more than an intolerance towards those type of people, I have absolute hatred and disdain towards them, does that make me a bigot? No it doesn't, it makes me a decent human being. An intolerance to paedos and rapists, for the sake of common decency you should re-evaluate your outlook on life I think. people like that deserve a lot more than 'intolerance'. What a complete idiot.}

Ed, not intended as personal attack on timalloy- who did not even realise timalloys were a gang back in the day- in general, if you have intolerance of someones views or beliefs, you are by definition a BIGOT. Interestingly enough, or not, word actually came from a group who would not turn from their religion, and cried "by God". We won t mention which group were trying to turn them eh. {Ed007's Note - Hating paedophiles and rapists does not make you a bigot though by any stretch of the imagination.}

To my Knowledge Timalloy they are 2 songs banned billy boys and the famine song. 2 songs that don't get sung at any ground rightly so. I don't know what other songs that are sectarian that you are talking about. They might be a couple of songs that are political but not sectarian/ bigoted. Can you enlighten me? My heads all over the place just now with the xfactor results lol.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - I knew you would watch that garbage FF81 lol, I am on the laptop and Moneypenny watches it, the auditions can be funny sometimes but when it gets serious it is tripe. I bet you are all excited about that jungle thing starting as well :-)

Lmao Ed. I've got money riding on the xfactor Ed lol. I know your not going to believe me but it's the wife that's watching it I'm just tagging along lol.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Aye right you are :-)

X factor this year is rank rotten...talk about offensive singing ! Although, Lady Gaga with the dead body on her shoulders look..was guid. ;~) {Ed007's Note - She's a pain in the a**e that Lady Gaga, I just don't get her at all. And she has a face like a foot!}

My hubby watched 'clips' of it but only to shout at it lol....he has strange taste in music. I call his a music bigot ! - Mrs E

Unamed poster, yes a gang called "the Timalloys" roamed the Calton in the 1920's 1930's but they adopted the "timalloy" name. This was given a derogatory name for Irish people, but the Irish turned it around and said they were Proud to be "Timalloys" So yes I am proud to be a "Timalloy" in the true Irish meaning of it, NOT the gang.hail hail Timalloy
PS FF81 you do realise your street cred is now nil watching the X factor ha ha
PPS did you realise the irony of us talking about pro Ira songs and then your tip "Rebel Song" ha ha ha

She has a face like a foot lmao. What the hell happened their? I've just read back on the posts and we are on to Hating paedophiles and rapists. How did that happen? We were talking about banned songs now this how low is that. I just watch xfactor because of tulisa that's my excuse lol.
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Some clown comparing not liking a football team to having an 'intolerance' to paedos and rapists. He tried to justify it so I just banned him, obviously not the sharpest knife in the box.}

To that un-named poster, I would gladly watch this type of emmm person you are reffering to burn alive.

Given that Rangers have now been in front of UEFA '4' times - if you are unclear what for, I suggest you write to the club or UEFA for claification - Mrs E

Good on you Ed. Why stoop so low. It's a banter page for goodness sake but that's a NO NO.
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Timalloy your credential Just went down aswell mate. You never posted once when the xfactor was on. So I take it you were watching it aswell? At least I've got an excuse I've got money riding on it lol. I just watch it cause I've got the hots for Tulisa lol. What's your excuse?
Followfollow81 {Ed007's Note - Tim was/is a massive Take That fan I heard. Tulisa is very pretty, never really knew who she was before she was on that.}

The way i see it rangers and celtic have a have a problem with bigotry that needs to be stamped out it is good having a laugh but not good if it goes to far and in my opinion a lot of people say rangers are a lot worse but the both are of them do it there are just as bad it doesn't matter who does it more the full point is knowbody should do it and it does annoy me how people say rangers are worse because there not worse there as bad as each other

campbell

13 Nov 2011 13:03:14
The song that celtic have been reported for is Paddy McCourt's fenian army.

It will be laughed out of court as this song is not secarian. Fenian has nothing to do with religion .
Fenians was an Irish Republican Brotherhood organisation dedicated to the establishment of an independent Irish Republic.

The term Fenian is still used today, especially in Northern Ireland and Scotland, where its original meaning has expanded to include all supporters of Irish nationalism, as well as being used by some as a sectarian term for Irish Catholics ( i.e Rangers fans use it as a sectarian term . But in reality its has nothing to do with catholics .

So as everyone one point's out our brave troops are over sea's fighting for our freedom . One of our freedoms are freedom of expression and there is no law in the UK or Europe against political expression but there is a law against religious expression .

So i look forward to the UEFA hearing to see what they say, as if celtic get done then laws on all football songs will have to change such as .
National Anthems will have to be changed such as
The Soldier's Song / Flower of Scotland / God save the queen also songs such as the damb busters, Rule brittania as all these song's are political and can be deemed as offensive to people .

So if celtic get done on this then all laws on football singing have to be changed .

Everyone has the freedom to express there political veiw . No matter what . {Ed007's Note - If it is that song then there is no case to answer really although I disagree that everyone has the freedom to express their political views, especially at a football match.}

I understand you saying you dont agree with everyone having freedom to express there political views . especially at a football match. but there is no law against it and to do so would breach there human rights . We might not all Agree with the BNP but what they do is not against the law . thats there political veiw . Everyone is entitled to theie veiws thats what the british constitution says. {Ed007's Note - Everyone is entitled to their own political views, but they have nothing to do with football or any sport along with sectarianism. I take it you are not offended by Rangers fans singing the Famine Song? It is some of their political views after all? Politics will always cause or add to any heated situation, and a football ground is no place for them to be aired or debated by a sing song. Better still, why don't we start singing about how the coalition government are messing up all our lives, jobs being lost left, right and centre, riots in London, the Dale Farm situation, we could sing about the Greek financial meltdown (well Samaras does play for us) we could say it is to show support for his country. I am being sarcastic there BTW.}

The Famine song aint political it's rasist .
I for one would like all the PRO IRA, UDA , UVF songs put out of football but if you take certain political songs away then you have to take all political songs out including National Anthems such as Flower of Scotland / God save the queen / and the soldier song . the damb buster song / rule brittania as all these songs offend sertain people also thusands of other teams songs will be barred .

If you do it against one team then all teams should be affected.

And good luck to UEFA or FIFA trying to tell Scotland / England or Ireland to change the national Anthem

To the initial post, so fenian is only sectarian when it comes from rangers supporters, something not quite right with that. {Ed007's Note - The word Fenian is not classed as illegal. I usually use F****n in case people get offended by it's use. The word H*n is illegal and we are legally bound not to use it on this site. Again though, the law is as clear as mud.}

I have spoken to many Rangers fans who admit singing the billy boys and they always thought F****n was based on Irish Catholic's . The first post come's from the f****n wiki. i was saying that in reality f****n is not sectarian.

I think education is the way forward for some of the 'words' used ! Some folk sing songs because they believe it makes them look Rangers/Celtic thru & thru instead of a complete ignorant ar*****e.

On a different subject but only going to get worse in West Of Scotland, the poppy is turning into a major issue. Some aren't wearing it with 'pride' or 'dignity'...its a sign of the team they support, talk about pimping the poppy (a disgrace) ! - Mrs E

So,if that is the case, would the "Billy Boys" be allowed back with its add on lyrics? Or is it the fact that blood shed is mentioned is the problem? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, {Ed007's Note - It is classed as a sectarian song, I don't make the rules/laws. If the words were changed to an acceptable level then there would be no problem with it that I can see.}

AWW, here was me thinking you did make all the rules and laws, disappointed. Technically, it should be a "political" song- as celtic fans like to say. It could be argued it is actually racist against pro Irish republicans. Its all politics at the end of the day anyway. {Ed007's Note - It can not be classed as a political song because of the wording.}

13 Nov 2011 09:30:05
Just a note on this potential fine from UEFA. First game I've been to in a while and the atmosphere was absolutely superb, the singing was brilliant and rallied the team to a fine win. Now I was at the opposite stand to the Green Brigade but they (as always) got the place rocking!I was delighted with how many chants and songs we have that don't necessarily need to mention politics in the ground so I'm astonished this accusation has come up from the'top cop'. I assume that its the Celtic symphony which has prompted this stupid accusation Ed? Now ok the chant (we all know it) maybe isn't for the ground but I'm sure others will back me up saying it was chanted by about 50 fans and died out in 50 seconds as out great fans remain silent..is this how desperate the establishment are becoming to pin something on us? Well one chant I particularly enjoyed from the game that's appropriate for this claim is bhoys, "GET INTO THEM" {Ed007's Note - As I have said, we have plenty of songs (Irish ones included) that don't mention the IRA.}

13 Nov 2011 00:59:02
I see there's a few sources claiming that Zenden did price himself out of the deal. Which one of the Ed's claimed was not the case at all? {Ed007's Note - I still say it wasn't.}