Celtic Banter Archive May 13 2019

 

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13 May 2019 22:54:25
Celtic won't let any one know who the new manager is until at least after the cup final I understand that and know they are right in doing so. But I can't stop looking at every Celtic related feed that I know at least 8 times a day to see if any one knows who it is I just can't wait until its out there for sure And hoping they have got it done and dusted by now. But please not Lenny.

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13 May 2019 23:14:00
Benitez 13/ 8 for job and other bookies have him 5/ 4.

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14 May 2019 08:43:08
Although I'm excited about the possible new appointment; we need to rally and focus for the Cup Final and ensure a fitting reward for the players who have had one very traumatic and grueling season.

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14 May 2019 09:07:24
Benitez is in discussions with Newcastle because he didn't get what he was promised. what makes people think he'd get assurances from Pedro.

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14 May 2019 09:18:59
It would be great if we pushed boat out and got benitez. I think we are trying to get best manager we can and if it falls through, we will appoint lennon as safe pair of hands.
But benitez would be great 🍀.

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14 May 2019 10:24:31
I'd be absolutely delighted with Benitez, but if he was to leave Newcastle, I'm sure we would have serious competition from richer clubs in better climates and standard of League.

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14 May 2019 10:47:24
Cannot believe this rafa nonsense no chance he'll come here.

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13 May 2019 21:40:41
Chris Houghton been sacked, does anyone think he would be a good choice, I wouldn't mind him and I think you would get him.

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13 May 2019 21:57:56
Think he has a great track record with lower teams in thd pub league.

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13 May 2019 23:28:57
He's not exactly known for attacking football.

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14 May 2019 09:04:37
Why do we have to be attacking?

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14 May 2019 09:25:43
The fact you've asked that question shows how much rubbish you talk.

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14 May 2019 12:08:28
Strachan was more defensive and got to last 16 twice.

Walter Smith for rangers was defensive and got to uefa cup final.

I'm asking what is up with defensive football?

Can u answer that naw?

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14 May 2019 12:48:09
No you asked why we can't play defensive football and if you don't know why Celtic should not play defensive football then you've really no clue about our club.

Strachen was more defensive? With 2 strikers, naka and mcgeady in his teams? Really?

What strachen did was defend when needed but over all his team attacked.

Walter Smith has nothing to do with Celtic so no point even mentioning him.

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14 May 2019 12:52:18
It's boring to watch.

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14 May 2019 13:09:59
At least aindoh is honest in his answer. Basically it's the "Celtic way" patter

Cos we won playing amazing football in 1967.

Aye preferably I'd want to win playing open football.

However it's very changed days for us since 60s and 70s.

Sometimes you need to be realistic like Strachan was and Smith deserves a mention as he overachieved with a Scottish team in Europe also.

Sometimes playing attacking has done us and other side of Glasgow more harm than good in Europe these days.

Le guen, mowbray, caixinha, Rodgers . all humiliated in Europe in more recent times than the 60s/ 70s.

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14 May 2019 14:00:24
Think the point is that Houghton doesn't play offensive football, he plays defensive football, he sets his team up to defend, with the emphasis on defence, not like Jock Steins, the best form of defence is attack.

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14 May 2019 15:21:19
What’s the point of having a defensive team in the Scottish premier, we are always on the attack against most teams ( although not at Ibrox anymore apparently🤢) . Defensively astute when we take part in Europe but def more offensive for the league.

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14 May 2019 16:05:28
Maybe the fact that Chris Houghton was more defence minded is he knew if he went full out attack in that league against better sides who have better players they would be ripped apart like we were under rogers when he tried it in Europe. Who ever comes in will be in charge of the best side in Scotland with the best players so this alone will surley make them more attacking minded you hope. I would definitely like Houghton as a option.

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13 May 2019 19:37:03
Before a ball was kicked yesterday we all new we needed a full-time manager appointed, a head of recruitment appointed and a turn over of players in and out.
The result or performance doesn't change anything. ofcourse we wanted a victory but let's all just take stock of another successful season with plenty of bumps in the road along the way.
There were posters on here wanting a team of kids played who are now slaughtering everyone and everything in green and white.
The way I see it is, this was the season for any other club to try and take a trophy from us and they all, so far, have failed miserably.
If rangers had the list of problems Celtic have had from the start of the season they would have finished mid table.
With the right appointments and recruitment of players, then yesterday's result was just another false dawn.

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13 May 2019 19:54:48
Things aren't as bad as you would think John I will say that. If we're on the brink of a treble when we've been poor then we only have more success to look forward to. But the club has some big decisions to make and has to sign quality, not just on the field but of it. We need to hit the ground running and get some momentum as quickly as possible for next season.

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13 May 2019 21:08:52
I would love for us to clinch another treble and make another bit of history for our club.
My concern though is that for whatever reason the quality of football we're playing is getting worse in each successive season. In Brendan Rodgers first season the football we played was great to watch, an unbeaten season domestically, a treble, and we even held our own against Man City a couple of times.
Last season wasn't quite as good in terms of quality but we were still streets ahead of anybody else. It would have been almost impossible to match the standards of Rodgers first season.
This season though, despite being on course for another clean sweep the football has been poor for a lot of the year. We seem to be struggling to score goals lately, the build up play is slow and uninspired, and for a team with so much to play for the players don't look as if they're enjoying their football at the moment.
I really hope we don't let this situation drift over the summer, let's not wait till we start giving up our trophies before something is done.

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13 May 2019 21:13:25
Yesterday showed up that some of our players are not up to it. our injury list is ridiculous and has been all season . yesterday we had Forrest kt boyata Christie Griffiths all out and lustig off early not to mention kouassi bayo arzani all missing.

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13 May 2019 21:47:42
What do Kouassi, Bayo, Arzani have to do with it? None of them have ever done anything for us? 🤔 and doubt that 2 of them ever will.

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13 May 2019 22:16:04
I think the reasons Brendan's first season was so good, can be summed up in one name, Dembelle, Moussa was leading the line, putting the fear into opposing defences and then back defending corners like his life depended on it, his enthusiasm inspired others around him, the reason Brendan's last part season wasn't as good can be summed up with same name,

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13 May 2019 19:18:13
Soz sent to early.
As u can see a lot to improve on all areas.
1 thing I would say is how slow we start a game and it seems to be we want it that way, yest being a typical example, that tactic just baffles me, we are too busy just wanting to pass it too much too early.

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13 May 2019 19:39:55
We do start very slowly, wonder how many goals we have scored in the first 30 minutes in last 10 games.

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13 May 2019 19:58:05
Well spotted Tam, looking back I think we have only scored 2 goals in the first 30 minutes of our last 16 games in all competitions and one of them was against sevco in the 27th minute. The other was Timo away to St. Mirren in the 15th minute.
Those 2 goals have come in Lennons 12 games in charge.

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13 May 2019 21:13:22
Griffith's was the man for early goals.

To be fair to Rodgers he warned us this would come cos we were short up front.

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{Ed007's Note - The same Rodgers that said:

“With all due respect to Scottish football, you can’t have three top strikers. You are not playing in the Premier League or a real competitive league. It is equally as tough (here) but in a different way. You cannot bring in another top striker because the dynamic wouldn’t work within the group, within the model of how we play, it is not going to suit us. But it is something that we have to look at.

If Moussa is out until that period and Leigh is up and down with his fitness then of course we would have to look to get one in.

I am not one for stockpiling players. I don’t want to bring in one for the sake of it. It needs to be the right quality and needs to be something that is right within the dynamics of the team and squad."

It was a problem in the squad and Rodgers thinking that I consistently highlighted at the time.}

13 May 2019 21:27:59
3 top strikers isn't the same as having 3 strikers though is it?

He still stated he wanted 3 strikers.

Just that to keep 3 top class ones happy in Scotland is hard when playing up front.

So the point still stands exactly. He warned us we needed 3 strikers. Now we are short for goals. Surprise surprise.

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{Ed007's Note - That doesn't even make any sense if you read what he actually said - along with later comments he made contradicting himself - but don't bother replying to it as I didn't realise it was you I answered and it won't get read or posted.}

13 May 2019 17:59:41
Caese, Rogic was terrible yesterday. It takes about 10 to 14 games for players to get up to speed in games after being out injured for so long. I like big Rogic, he’s a fantastic player, he’s just getting back to fitness.

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13 May 2019 18:48:43
Except he plays like that more than he doesn't and his stats are pathetic.

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13 May 2019 17:56:19
In light of their recognition and incredible display for a big Billy McNeill how about a friendly against Athletic Bilbao. Home and Away friendlies would be brilliant. Create a bond with a great club and show our appreciation for what the did for Caesar 🍀.

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13 May 2019 18:27:24
Celtic played them in a friendly a few years ago to celebrate the opening of their new stadium, I think it was 0-0.The Green Brigade went in force and made a good impression with the locals.

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{Ed007's Note - Home and away friendlies were being discussed before Billy McNeill's death.}

13 May 2019 19:20:21
Their display was awesome, I just hope none of them watched that embarrassing performance yesterday.

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13 May 2019 19:43:02
Either way brilliant display from what I saw on the net. Hats off to Bilbao and welcome to Parkhead anytime.

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13 May 2019 17:55:31
I honestly think we would of won yesterday and would not of dropped any points in league if John Kennedy was appointed interm manager instead of Lennon.

He already knew the team, players and tactics to which they best performed. That mob were very lucky yesterday that we fielded team we did and deployed tactics we used. Fair play to them though, they took advantage. It was a shambles, an absolute embarrassment.

We have a better squad than that mob yet the key players were not used to full effect.

Team I believe would of won us game would of been:

GK Bain

LB Hayes
CB Benkovic
CB Simunovic
RB Ralston

CDM Brown
CDM Ntcham

CAM McGregor

LW Sinclair
RW Burke

ST Edouard

Midfield would of been solid with option of McGregor dropping back to CDM when they broke on attack.

There's no way they would of won yesterday with that line up. That's what's most annoying about whole game.

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13 May 2019 19:28:33
They wanted it more that's why they won. The players just weren't up for the fight. I wonder if a trip to Dublin for a piss up affected the training and prep in build up to the game?

I agree that Johstone and Rogic shouldn't have started. Out of interest tho, what has Ralston done to deserve the nod before Lustig? And Ajer who has probably been our best player since Christmas, why would you have dropped him yesterday?

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13 May 2019 20:00:12
Lustig has been a liability past few seasons. Not the player he was. Ralston was because nobody else and has played well in the past.

Ajer is a good player but simunovic on form is better. Just my opinion.

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13 May 2019 22:11:25
You must be mad not including Ajer? Him and Broony are the only players that actually show some passion during games.

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14 May 2019 08:26:53
Phil your having a laugh not including Ajer. He's been one of the highlights of the season. He's been our most consistent defender IMO and when he breaks out of defence he's a real asset.
I would have played Ralston as well though but not for your reason which i don't agree with.
Id have played him because everyone knew that lustig wasn't fit.

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13 May 2019 13:40:37
It will be interesting what the S. F. A do about the disgusting songs that the mindless individuals were singing yesterday, there selection of tunes that the Sevco **** pick to entertain there fellow mutants just goes to show what kind of thick individuals that follow Sevco 2012.

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13 May 2019 14:58:28
A few minutes ago I forced myself to watch last nights Sportscene and there was absolutely no mention, apology or condemnation whatsoever.
This is the same channel/ programme that sat in judgement of Celtic fans in recent games against Kilmarnock and Aberdeen, to name just a couple berating the club for pitch invasion and sectarian signing and having recorded interviews with McInnes and Gerrard into the bargain.
The BBC are, sadly as biased and anti-Celtic as SLY and shows a very slanted perspective on what they consider 'sectarian'?
Scotlands shame will never go away if the authorities and media taint the truth with their own versions and opinions of the facts.

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13 May 2019 15:09:34
They were chanting about the Lisbon Lions. Mocking our dead. They are vile disgusting people. Well done Michael Stewart for calling them out.

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13 May 2019 15:56:07
Lennon got it too, calling “cheer up Lennon ya Fenian basxxxx”. But I’m certainly not at all surprised nor of the media SFA silence.

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13 May 2019 16:20:29
What do you expect from that pond life, that includes the S F A and media HH.

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13 May 2019 16:30:09
as a bluenose i am disgusted by the minority that sang about the Lions

disgraceful and those kind of **** are not welcome in society, let alone at our ground

sadly nothing will be done about it.

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13 May 2019 16:35:35
Thanks for that sentiment “always cheated”

Your name seems very appropriate and honest for s rangers fan.

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13 May 2019 17:14:18
Minority? They must have some set of lungs on them then.

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13 May 2019 18:17:04
oab they did mention it but swept over it very quickly, unlike the mcinnes last week.

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13 May 2019 19:33:05
Glenn it's in their name Sweet F**k All.

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13 May 2019 19:45:51
It’s a bit tit for tat. There’s some bile that get spouted from both sides and we’re no exactly whiter than white
Granted minority for the most part

What annoys me is the one sided reporting of it.

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13 May 2019 22:51:16
Just watched the football show on YouTube, with Peter Martin and Alan Rough and Barry Ferguson, the abusive chanting and singing was highlighted and condemned in no small way.

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13 May 2019 13:39:47
If we were offered the chance to take Benkovic again next season I'd bite Leicester's hand off for it - provided it wasn't a sweetener for a move for KT or CalMac. I know a lot of people don't like developing other team's players but every one of our CB's has looked better when playing beside him and if we could get him next to Jozo or Ajer for a decent period then it might develop them into the same sort of leader who inspires their team mates.

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13 May 2019 14:41:00
I really rate Benkovic. His passing can be superb. I think he's easily worth spilling some of that Dembele loot if he'd be willing to come permanently.

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13 May 2019 14:58:32
I don't think Rodgers would be keen to let him go permanently tbh.

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13 May 2019 14:59:29
What about a swap him for Rogic, as I hear Leicester are interested?

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13 May 2019 15:28:26
Rogic was awful yesterday, that Flanagan cleaned him out and he chucked it. Lustig can get tae as well. He couldn't get off the pitch quickly enough. For all his posturing and mouthing off he's rotten. We've taken to him because of his antics against them but he was an embarrassment yesterday.

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13 May 2019 15:44:27
Lenny should have thrown him on when lustig went off and went to 3 at the back.

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13 May 2019 15:45:11
We've taken to him because he's been a fantastic servant for Celtic. He was injured at the end of the last game and should never have been on the park yesterday.

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13 May 2019 16:03:00
Rodgers has been quoted over the weekend saying if Benkovic is going out on loan again it will be to Celtic. Benkovic has said today he's been asked by Lenny to stay.

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13 May 2019 16:10:20
NL has been guilty of taking risks with players carrying injuries a couple of times now - and I know players will assure the manager they are OK, but in that environment we needed 11 fit, able and up for it.

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13 May 2019 17:01:34
He'd have been better with one leg than tohjlan and he's been on the bench for weeks so am guessing he's fit.

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13 May 2019 12:16:38
Chris Houghton now available, he has done a great job wherever he has been, was never going to last long in the epl, just because of the club and I think his owners lack of ambition, big European and international experience, could be a good option.

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13 May 2019 14:28:33
He was the guy I mentioned on here that i thought we should go for before we got BR.
I still think he would be a good manager.

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13 May 2019 15:25:12
Regarding the Moyes post earlier kev.

He had Everton regularly 6th and 7th for 11 years. He even achieved a top 4 finish.

He spend ÂŁ182 million over 11 seasons.

This is an average spend of ÂŁ16 mil a season. Not to mention much of his money was made on sales.

He had a side in the premier league working on a budget similar to ours and was finishing 6th regularly.

To sit and say he didn't do well at Everton is an Insult. not just to him but also yourself as it shows you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

P. s I don't rate him overall or want him here but at Everton he was excellent. Facts.

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13 May 2019 15:47:06
What did he win?
Nothing when even teams round about him or lower were winning trophies. He done average at Everton and pish everywhere else.

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13 May 2019 19:10:00
Hahahahahha awwww nawww you can't be serious. Didn't win anything at Everton. EVERTON so it's a failure 😂😂😂

My god. U have no clue about football.

Managing in England with ÂŁ16mil budgets and being top 6 in the richest league about.

And that's failure to you.

Just cos we win diddy cups in Scotland it's a success then?

So linfield are better than Tottenham then as they have won more trophies?

Ridiculous.

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13 May 2019 19:26:03
Answer me this kev. What did god almighty Brendan Rodgers win in England?

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13 May 2019 10:59:18
Think tan rogic is at a sliding doors moment in his career, depending what door he goes through, he needs to go away this summer do extra train ing build himself up hire a sprint coach add a yard hit the gym, or the other option is maybe in a year or 2 playing with some diddy team back in oz imo it's that serious.

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13 May 2019 11:10:41
Just don't think he has the engine in him Mally. You can always improve but without the core to work on there isn't much hope. Technically very good but blows out his erse after an hour without fail.

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13 May 2019 11:19:49
Either Celtic fans need to accept rogic is a luxury player or he needs to go in my IMO. Would be option 2 for me though.

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13 May 2019 11:40:44
There's always room for improvement it's up to him he'll know himself. if he's got a lazy personality then it's back in oz for him if he knuckles down and does hard work we'll have a player. sadly I think like kev it'll be option 2.

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13 May 2019 12:55:04
Always wondered why the club hasn't sent him on a specialized conditioning course. Something like what Andy Murray does. By far the most unfit player in the squad. Always said he doesn't do enough for a player in CAM at a club like ours. Christie over Rogic anyday imo.

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13 May 2019 13:05:07
If someone wants to offer that crazy £15 million reported last week I’d show him the door.

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13 May 2019 13:41:47
I think we have had the best years out of him. Is it just me or does anytime he comes back from Australia national games he looks a shadow of his former self?

He was good in big games and scored some beauties but I think other teams have got wise to that and close him down quickly.

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13 May 2019 13:46:12
This is not a young boy that is just starting out; he's been with us seven years, playing under three different managers and he's a full International. How many games in all that time have you thought 'Rogic was pure magic today'? - Not nearly enough I can assure you.
Our so-called big-game players, must have a big presence and produce big performances - especially in big games and he falls well short.

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14 May 2019 11:56:47
I'm one of Rogics biggest fans yet yesterday the game passed him by, as it did the other 10 around him. I will not make him the scapegoat for yesterday though the entire midfield were awful and we win as a team and lose as a team. I said last week based on current market, 5 year contract, international caps etc we should not entertain bids of ÂŁ15m. Knowing we have a massive rebuilding job on our hands i think today i'd be happy with ÂŁ12m if we can get Nick Powell on a free. We need to freshen things and it would be great having Powell and Christie compete for the No 10 shirt. Also feel next season is the time to make McGregor the natural successor to Broony. Broonys status as a legend is secure but next season we need to build for the future. I also expect a midfielder to be announced over the summer, a player who will take over from Ntcham who will leave. I think come July we will have a very energetic youthful yet experienced midfield with Shved also coming in. Yesterday hurt, it was embarrassing but it could turn out to be a blessing. The kick up the butt needed to make the changes required to secure 9 in a row.

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13 May 2019 10:00:12
Ed007, I sometimes look at the celticnewsnow website. Does it have any credibility as a source of info? HH.

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{Ed007's Note - It's just a news aggregator site so it's really just up to you to separate the wheat from the chaff mate.}

13 May 2019 10:22:06
I would throw Sean dyche or Chris hughton in to the ring for managers job both these guys punch above their weight in EPL. It would give them an opportunity to win trophies and possibly improve their career for future. But it would require backing from board to entice them out of EPL it's just names on previous thread are either non starters or uninspiring to me.

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{Ed001's Note - Hughton just got sacked by Brighton.}

13 May 2019 10:34:44
That's even more up our boards street🤣 I'd still take him as keeping Brighton in that league isn't a failure on my thinking.

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13 May 2019 11:21:38
Don't think we'd get Dyche jim. He's being eyed up as a future England manager.
Ed 001 is Houghton highly rated?

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{Ed001's Note - highly respected and liked, I suppose it depends on what or who you talk to as rated. I think he was unlucky to get the sack, but it is difficult to know if he is the right man or not. He deserves a chance though.}

13 May 2019 11:46:07
Just the culture down there now ed. What does a team like Brighton really think they can do?

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{Ed001's Note - I don't get it, they think too much of themselves and their expectations arose beyond realism.}

13 May 2019 12:06:25
Ive just been sent a rumour that eddie howe has been lined up for after the final, does anyone see any truth in it? He'd be a step up from lennon or clarke I think.

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13 May 2019 12:22:18
Houghton did a fantastic job at Newcastle and was treated very harshly imo. A man that always comes across well. Don't think he'll be out of work long. Good luck to him.

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13 May 2019 12:01:16
Not just them though either ed. Every team that hits the EPL is the same.
They get delusions of grandeur and think they are big clubs just because they are in that league.

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{Ed001's Note - they are in terms of money.}

13 May 2019 12:59:56
Stephbhoy2 you could add him into the mix for me, he's taken Bournemouth as far as can be expected and if bigger EPL clubs don't come in soon he'll either move to mid team continental like Moyes tried or get relegated eventually which sets his stock lower.

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13 May 2019 13:07:20
That makes them rich not big ed.

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{Ed001's Note - and the difference is?}

13 May 2019 13:22:59
hughton got sacked due to 3 wins in 23 games. regardless of league etc that's unnacceptable at any level

brighton will never be more than a bottom half side but 3 in 23 is awful.

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13 May 2019 14:30:39
3 in 23 is poor but these clubs can struggle at any time. He also took them to semi final of fa cup so for Brighton does that not overall become a good season? What name would you realistically take always cheated?

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13 May 2019 13:59:00
Well I wouldn’t say that a Brighton or Huddersfield are bigger clubs than the likes of Leeds, villa or Sunderland ed.

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{Ed001's Note - they can attract better players though. Not that I really see that it matters.}

13 May 2019 16:34:30
Jim1972 im a bluenose and on the way you guys have played since lennon come in id be thrilled if he got the job permanently as you have looked laboured, abject, devoid of ideas etc

dont think he will get the job tho but i can't see it going to a "big name" either.

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13 May 2019 10:16:37
Although I have sympathy for Neil Lennon taking over a team that has been on a downward trend for some time now and no transfer window to buy his players. I don't think it would be right to appoint him as he is on a mission impossible to get our fans behind him. So it's over to Peter and Dermot to show ambition and my 2 choices would be Sean duchess or Chris.

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13 May 2019 10:25:41
Hit send before finishing post and auto correct🙈.

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13 May 2019 05:59:10
Well done to all the lurkers, of which they are staunchly officially none lol. Reminds me of another time when I was a Celtic supporter lots of wins but no trophies 😉. I'll take cups and Champions league all day. Will give credit to Taverniers goal, Green specs off it was not bad. OK, cup final again to look forward to again😁.

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13 May 2019 09:07:35
I said the same thing to my laddie yesterday. On most occasions during their 9 in a row my memory is generally being able to raise our game against them and on many occasions ran over the top of them when it didn’t matter. I remember celebrating like the Govan hoards yesterday. Then waking up on the Monday morning only to realise in the final analysis we’d won nothing and nobody cared. And that’s where our friends across the city are this morning despite yesterday’s (SKY QUOTE) ‘massive result’ for Slipping Stephen. Three competitions won none 6 points behind in the league and second place while Celtic are champions again as we know. That being said it’s a massive wake up call and to use the word we often use for them we’re deluded if we don’t think the gap has narrowed. The other thing we learned yesterday and I’m a massive fan of his is that Lennon isn’t the man to move us forward or to make another statement of intent as we did when we appointed Rodgers after our cup defeat to them. As Ed said yesterday on live chat ‘Over to you Mr. Desmond’.

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13 May 2019 10:56:40
We used to always beat them after they had won the league but no disguising we have regressed dramatically major investment needed.

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13 May 2019 11:42:24
JFP, of course the gap has narrowed, of course Slippy G has improved them but let's be brutally honest they couldn't have got any worse, they were rock bottom, it's now up to us to keep the gap comfortable as it is at the moment.

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13 May 2019 12:20:04
Stevie agreed they’ve got better although starting from ground zero but we’ve also got worse which has narrowed the gap further. Dembele for starters was never replaced nor was Armstrong off the top of my head. But we’re agreed the balls now firmly in Celtic’s court to invest and re-establish the differential.

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