Celtic Banter Archive June 13 2016

 

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13 Jun 2016 21:17:50
Mo Donati wants to come back😂😂 I would just get him bk to sort Barton out lol.

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15 Jun 2016 22:22:55
Joey Bartton won't be playing for them next season. He is not actually signing until July and there will be some contractual problem and he will be backdown South to a Championship side.

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13 Jun 2016 17:47:02
Good evening guys.

On assessing the current squad and your, who out of our youth team will get a chance next season? There is obviously lads like nesbitt etc, but any others that haven't been touted much?

Ed (or anyone else) is young Calvin Miller someone to be excited about? Rather give promising youth a chance than sign donkeys from league 2 or gash strikers released from Sunderland.

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13 Jun 2016 21:49:25
Would rather give youth a chance but they seem to get most stick making 1 mistake they become terrible.

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13 Jun 2016 22:45:54
Kev . miller looks the part when I e seen him at u 20s level . also nesbitt. hendry . Archibald . hill . mcart and kellehar. younger ones like ralston . aitchison. . and church have been getting good write ups. man u where reportedly looking at church and aitchison.

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14 Jun 2016 22:17:24
Church has signed up for this parish for three years and Atkenson as well.

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13 Jun 2016 18:01:58
Lustig limps off with what looks like a " groin strain "

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13 Jun 2016 20:50:45
It's what we all feared, Lustig needed a rest not all these extra games, sadly I think we will need a replacement for next season as he is finished.

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13 Jun 2016 23:19:18
I agree Tim; although he was poor for much of the season and came good in the run-in, he was relied on much more than usual in the absence of Mathews, Janko and Fisher.
This tournament was the last thing he and Celtic needed as far as his fitness and fragility goes.
We may have to do without him indefinitely?

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13 Jun 2016 17:56:36
Don't know much about him apart from what I've seen today, but the boy hendrick looks a tidy player. How much would Derby look for do u think? Anyone else think he'd improve our midfield?

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13 Jun 2016 18:11:09
Didn't realise he was only 24 . big lump as well 6'1 . first full game I've seen of his . looks good player. is this his norm or is he playing above himself today? ^.

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13 Jun 2016 18:14:55
We were linked with him a couple of weeks ago. He certainly looks head and shoulders above Norwood.

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13 Jun 2016 18:31:25
Didn't see that kev. and yes on this game he looks better than norwood.

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13 Jun 2016 18:59:35
He's done quite well in a lot of Ireland games that I've watched . Much prefer him to Norwood and hoolahan is fairly tidy as well.

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13 Jun 2016 19:16:04
Remember hoolahan from livi. . thought he was not bad was surprised they let him go to Blackpool/ blackburn (on loan first if I remember correctly ) too old now.

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13 Jun 2016 19:23:20
Bhoy lks good played well especially 1st half I like wee Glen Whelean aswell solid the wee man.

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13 Jun 2016 19:27:23
Wes H, is too old now,34,he will retire from international, football after the tournament, I told you a few weeks ago that both Jeff Hendricks and James mcClean are on the radar, do not be surprised if one or both show up, the good thing is that both are miles better than what we have.

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13 Jun 2016 19:42:52
Not sure about mclean . I've never seen him play and thought he's great . imo he's average.

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13 Jun 2016 20:27:47
I think James Maclean be a great signing Bhoy would be up for it but he would be constantly under threat up here by that mob plus the Scottish media would have a field day writing rubbish about him they would make that scum bag Barton look like a Saint compared to him, When the Bhoy was coming on tonight iam sure Mark Lawerson said something along lines I hope he behaves heself or keeps the head the negative media coverage towards lad is shocking, anyway I don't want to get into that side of it about the Bhoy but in my opinion exactly what we need great player.

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13 Jun 2016 22:32:48
Lawrenson has reverted to a dull old English person and rarely praises the Irish .
I have faulted M O'N 's ROI team often enough but for the 70 mins when the scores were level RO I played very well, the best I have seen from them for years, defending well and attacking in numbers . We could easily have scored 2 or 3 goals but the 20 mins we were ahead we were terrible, we couldn't get the ball or hold on to it. M O'N will have to address this and do so immediately as we cannot be over -run whilst ahead . This isn't new but it was v bad today .

Later on this evening a very much patch -work Italian side were deserved winners over highly rated Belgium . The Belgians had plenty of stars but very few star performers.

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14 Jun 2016 14:53:41
Old Bhoy the Belgians are the most overrated team going. They have a lot of players who are great at their clubs but they don't seem to click for the national team. They've stormed up the rankings because they've had kind draws in the qualifiers etc. they've hardly beaten anybody of note apart from France and Italy in a couple of friendlies in the past year or 2. They may get better now that the first game is out of the way but Ireland should hold no fear after last night.

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14 Jun 2016 22:28:03
Hendricks did seem to play better last night than expected . Many Irish fans wouldn't have picked him but he certainly played well.
McCarthy is definitely a disappointment as an International and Irish fans were easy on him because of his youth but he has been round long enough to be dominating midfield if he is going to be a good un .
Eamon Dunphy said all he did at weekend was run around pointing like a busy police man on point duty .

Kevbhoy, I would worry if the Belgians went in front, or if Ireland fall back on their defence. I would have no fear if R O I play without fear for the whole game like they did for the first half and last 20 mins.

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13 Jun 2016 15:09:44
We are being deliberately connected to sevco standard players by sevco press. If sevco ever sign any of these donkeys it will be all over the press as a massive coup.
Celtic let a better striker walk away than the ones that have been mentioned so expect someone of a decent standard for godsake.

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13 Jun 2016 16:06:44
I noticed the old Celtic v Rangers tug of war patter has been well and truly rolled out again.

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14 Jun 2016 09:45:51
Kev, it helps promote, puts bums on seats and gets others in front of the telly. Won't go away so might as well ignore it.

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15 Jun 2016 13:59:30
Yeah saw in paper today that even when discussing PJ Crossan from Dunfermline, no connection to Gers whatsoever, but still paper manages to get thier name in there alongside ours by saying we would pay development fee, just like Gers did with Telfer back in 19-canteen! It's just getting embarrasing.

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13 Jun 2016 14:20:34
Everyone is getting a bit excited over the gash media transfer speculation.

The players still need to come back from holidays/ euros and be assessed by the manager.

I hate last minute signings as much as the next man (stand fast Robbie Keane) but signing players for the sake of it is a waste of resource.

So far:
Top manager
Massive boost in season tickets
Only one striker
No excuse for not securing someone halfway decent (first pick level)
Have faith bhoys.

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13 Jun 2016 18:46:25
I think he would have a good idea of the players we have the good points and the bad apart from some little details and have a good idea of who he wants in but I also think we will be surprised with one or two new signings Well hope so any way.

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13 Jun 2016 13:03:18
Graham having a medical at Blackburn, panic over.

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13 Jun 2016 13:11:35
Good. Hopefully Fletcher has one tomorrow at Villa then we can at least be surprised at the pap we sign.

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13 Jun 2016 13:24:52
Where did u get that from I hope it's right.

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13 Jun 2016 22:42:21
No matter how many players Brendan Rodgers brings in I am sure he will bring in some that most of us will think he is wrong .
Football is a game of opinions and I think that B Rodgers informed opinion is in a better position than the rest of us . Only B Rodgers' opinion will have to stand - up to hindsight as we will know after a year or two whether a particular buy, is very good, average, or poor . However you or I can shout from the roof -tops about such and such a player been God's Gift to Celtic, the fact is we will never know .

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13 Jun 2016 10:37:39
In terms of Danny Graham I have no doubt he could do the business domestically but Europe I'm not convinced. If he does come though we need to get behind him.

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13 Jun 2016 11:34:36
Don't know kevbhoy he has o ly had two de enter season returns and that was in league one and championship 6-7 years ago his return was approx 1 in 3 both seasons went to swansea and it was nearly 1 in 5 since then something like 10 goals. hopefully it's just the Swansea link or that that he's a freebie that the papers are using .

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13 Jun 2016 12:02:50
did he not net 7 in 18 games with blackburn?, thinking the same as you kev, might do well in the league but dosent fill me with confidence.

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13 Jun 2016 12:19:39
Blackburn still want him heard there's talks with them this wk.

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13 Jun 2016 12:31:12
Gary Hooper ran riot up here but went to the Premiership and only scored 4 goals or something like that. Obviously I'd rather hear a more exotic name with an impressive reputation but at the end of the day if he does agree to come up and sign then he deserves a fair crack to prove if he's up to it or not. We've had strikers with better records come to Celtic and fail.

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{Ed007's Note - It wouldn't be too difficult to find players with a better record than Graham, 37 goals in the last 5 seasons at 7 different clubs. We won't be signing Graham yet people are already falling into the trap of being willing to give honking players a chance because of who the manager is, remember Bangura, Balde etc etc were all the same but they were unknown - every man and his dog already knows Graham's not up to it. If you struggle to even score in the English Championship then you're not good enough to play for Celtic, Graham's hardly a youngster who's goibg to improve, he's an average player who has been on the decline for years.}

13 Jun 2016 12:44:01
Must admit, I have not been impressed with most of the names cropping up on these pages as possible or potential signings, although the Sevco media are responsible for generating many of the rumours.
BR was installed to improve our current standing and build a team worthy of competing in Europe, while dominating domestically by winning more trophies.
To achieve this, he knows he will have to add some better players than we have at present and not adding any worse than we already have.

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{Ed007's Note - Spot on (clap)

13 Jun 2016 12:51:47
16 in 97 since leaving swansea.

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13 Jun 2016 12:52:47
It's nothing to do with the manager Ed, for me anyway. I already said that I'd want a bigger name with a better record but if somebody signs for the club I'll always give them a chance whether I wanted them or not.

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{Ed007's Note - Even when you know they're garbage and not good enough to play for Celtic? People done the same with Craig Gordon and he cost us more trophies than RD did.}

13 Jun 2016 13:28:19
I don't think Graham is garbage to be fair. I think he would get goals in Scotland but I'd definitely be hoping for someone with more pedigree.

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13 Jun 2016 14:13:28
It's laughable people calling Graeme garbage, yes he is well past his best but bar griffiths and hooper he is still better than any other striker we have signed in the past few seasons, yes he didn't score many in England but far better players than him have failed to do so. I personally do not want him to sign but if we can't offload cifti I would rather have Graeme and then a good 3mil striker plus griffiths and a youth player and that would give us 4 good options up top and leave money for other areas.

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13 Jun 2016 16:00:28
Fletcher scores about 1 in 3 and a 1/2 games including at hibs.
Graeme scores about 1 in 3 and a 1/2 games
None of them much better than cole who scores about 1 in 4 and a 1/2 games.
Not good enough

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13 Jun 2016 16:03:26
Dundee bhoy. . that would mean two of 4
. possibly giving set up. 3 of 4 on bench. do t disagree about buying another good striker and give a youth a chance but w hy get someone like graham just to warm bench. better than 5 last year right enough.

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13 Jun 2016 22:50:38
As well as signing better quality players than we have signed in the past and that we have in the squad is really only a part of the Manager 'a responsibility, a very important part. The Manager has to extract more out of the players than they have ever before .
The important thing the manager has to do is to produce a team that is better than the sums of its parts . ( Team better than the players who are in the team)

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13 Jun 2016 01:07:44
I don't know if there are other posters who feel the same as myself about euros. just can't get into it cause no Scotland again.

Ive always believed the problem is the league structure. This is a major failing that lies solely with SFA. There are bound to be players who are overlooked that are late developers in leagues below league 2. there's no money in our set up. This means less money to scout these players. If we adopted same league system as EFA, maybe we would see some right good homegrown players.

SFA need to think outside box.

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13 Jun 2016 02:42:28
Not a Scotland fan but would of loved to of seen them qualify (obviously not at the expense of Ireland tho)

For me the problem of your team is old favourites getting played regardless of form/ ability

My knowledge of the Scotland team isn't great but playing fletcher over the likes of Rhodes and griffiths is crazy imo

Ireland is equally as poor throughout the team although we do have a goal or two in us with long/ keane and perhaps more of an attacking mindset in midfield.

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13 Jun 2016 08:17:54
We've all witnessed first hand how stubborn WGS can be and I think this will be his downfall in the end. He said he doesn't pick Rhodes because he doesn't fit in with the style of play. This is the same style of play that didn't get us to the Euros. He's a terrific striker but WGS is happy to stick with the tried, tested and failed - ie both Fletchers. The refusal to try more positive tactics against the lesser teams always costs us. Georgia are a prime example. We are better than them but barely scraped through at Hampden by way of an own goal and then bottled it over there. That's the difference between a party in France or watching everybody else having a party on the TV. He's talking about Scotland being a team full of "scared" players so maybe he should show a little less fear and lead by example.

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13 Jun 2016 11:02:08
I thought that when Strachan took over as manager of Scotland they were going to play a more attacking style of football, but they seem to have gone back to the dull negative tactics they were playing before he took charge.
I think that Scottish football has negativity running right through it, clubs are only interested in living off the money they make from playing Celtic or Rangers, none of them show any ambition. The cup final was played between 2 teams from the Championship, and the league cup final had another Championship team in it. What does this say about the premiership.
I think that until teams in Scotland have a lot more hunger then the national team will continue to decline, if players haven't got the motivation to improve themselves at their clubs, is it any wonder that they are found wanting if they are picked for Scotland.

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14 Jun 2016 22:40:52
IT is very easy to pick one player ahead of another when nothing really matters, it's always easy to go out and play attacking football in your mind . It's a different kettle of fish when your name is WGS and you are the actual manager, you cannot pick a player who might do a job for you . You cannot necessary pick an all out attacking team and get trounced, as Manager sometimes it might be damage limitation . Scotland seem to have very poor young Scottish players coming through the various academies. I think if the SFA devoted more time developing grass root football and the academies instead of devoting their time and energy keeping themselves out of any trouble from their dealings with Sevco.

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