Celtic Banter Archive July 13 2015

 

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13 Jul 2015 23:29:12
Was just wondering out of all the players that have been released from clubs in the Premiership, is there anyone that you would sign?

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14 Jul 2015 00:25:25
I thought RD's forte was developing and bringing on young players,why don't we have a moritarium on buying or signing on new players and let RD have a good go at bringing on Celtics own young players,this might mean we won't be as successful for a season or two,and the only sing when we are winning brigade might not like this ,but I feel like Celtic are losing their identity,they are becoming just another business brand,being exploited because they worship at the door of success by any means,if Celtic could afford it and they could buy the likes of messi and ronaldo etc,so they could guarentee success,would the majority of suporters be happy with that?,I think they would but count me out.

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14 Jul 2015 09:56:05
Respect your opinion but that stance means we will never play on an even playing field. The odds are set way too high for us or any other teams in similar leagues to win this competition. Sure, there will be the occasional deserved win and all but in the end. The fair play rules concept is designed to help smaller leagues and clubs to get some chance but in reality, we have seen that it's just another token and has no major effect on the big guns.

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14 Jul 2015 14:24:40
What continually bothers me is if we ever get a young player into the team they invariably come from elsewhere. Hubs and united recently. We seem to win all the cups in regard to the younger players but there is very little, if any, real quality coming through from Lennoxtown.

The hopes I had for developing real talent has not happened. Why do these smaller teams manage producing players we want to buy whilst at the same time send our own out on loan?

To me it's not happening and wonder what the problem is.

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14 Jul 2015 14:38:17
Yeah I would hate it if we had to endure Messi/Ronaldo every week lol. Imagine if we had to put up with the type of football Barca produce every week it would be torture.

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14 Jul 2015 16:35:40
The reason is. The smaller clubs can't afford to go out and sign ready made replacements. So they HAVE to go with youth.

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14 Jul 2015 23:16:08
Yes Marco,they have to go with youth,so what are they doing in their youth development that we are not doing here?,how can DU produce gauld ,mackay-smith,armstrong,russel,goodwillie,soutar, etc,hibs ,hearts even little livi has produced some really talented players,is that what the difference is ,at other clubs young players get a run in the 1st team,whereas at Celtic,they get sent out on loan,they get disheartened and their development stalls,because the fans crave a player that's cost a tranfer fee,I hope young Henderson gets a good run in the first team this year.

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{Ed007's Note - Do you think players like Armstrong, Gauld and GMS would have been the players they are if they had spent their youth career at CFC?}

15 Jul 2015 02:15:50
No Ed.

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15 Jul 2015 16:24:46
Deila doesn't allways sign young players. Cifci is in fact a bit typical kind of odd signing you would see from Deila, but he does for a reason. He's had his share of odd signings in his time in Størmsgodset, but they where signed with an intention.
Of course some of the "odd signings" turned out to be Stefan johansen, another being Jørgen Horn.
Jørgen Horn when Deila picked him up had being dropped by two different clubs and gotten his contract terminated, cause of massive alcohol abuse, violence and such.
He played most of the games in their championship season, pairing with Kim Andre Madsen.
I'd rather see him signing a player on a free who fits the bill, who will work his ass of to make the team than a "class player" who only wants eventually his "dream move" no matter how many bridges will burm.

"We may not have the best players. but we can have the best team"

On the youth developement, you would have to wait a while to see some real potential coming thrue, but they will come and hopefully a good share of them.
I think the youngsters starting in your acadamy this season, who will follow a schedule from the age of 12-15 will have a much better base to make it, and if good enough Deila is not shy to give them games if he finds someone good enough.
(Martin Ødegaard debut age 13, Iver Fossum debut age 16, Gustav Wikheim debut age 17 and so on and is now regulars at Strømsgodset and of course you all know Ødegaard.
It did thought, take a while before you could see a big difference in the youth, the first batch of Deila's product if you like.

I think you are about to have a really good season guys, but the big question is;

If the scenario of Celtic missing to qualify for CL this season, would you call for Deila's head?

Maybe this could be made into a poll, ED007?

Sorry for the looong post here people, but with Deila you get someone who will try to build brick by brick, somewhat slow progression, but the end product being 10-15 years ahead of time and not 1 or 2, like modern football has become.

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{Ed007's Note - It's always nice to get your input, NR as you know our manager's past and his methods better than any of us. The polls are out of commission just now as Ed033 redesigns sites.}

15 Jul 2015 17:04:24
Ah ok, bare hyggelig, min venn! I'm a little nervous on Deila's behalf, its allways the second season that is the vital one and there is not much that turns a great result to an absolute disaster. What I got out of Deila's last interview with a norwegian newspaper was that CL is the be or not to be and he said he has never been so nervous and excited at the same time.
Maybe missing the CL isn't enough to lose his job, but it could still be his downfall. That one result damaging the confidence enought to get into the wrong track.
Dont think it will come to that at all, but he could get sacked to early in the process.
But it seems that your club's reps have confidence in Deila, but for how long in a given scenario?

Hopefully it would end "and they lived happily. "


BTW, when does the match start tonight?

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{Ed007's Note - 19:45 our time.}

15 Jul 2015 19:02:16
Thanks mate! I predict a win by a good margine tonight.
A win by three, at least. 4-1!

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{Ed007's Note - (yes) I'll settle for that.}

13 Jul 2015 22:46:23
I see Ajax are in talks with Arsenal to loan Yaya Sanago. Wouldn't mind us going for him! Another example of a player with great potential not getting much of a chance at a big club in England like Boyata and Janko. I think that could be a good strategy for us to try and pick up these types, obviously got a lot ability or else they wouldn't be there in the first place. Omeruo from Chelsea who we've been linked with would be another in that catagory who could do a job

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14 Jul 2015 00:16:29
I'm all for this aswell mate but we need to try keep them for 2 full seasons minimum buy at a small price sell for high the only problem is some of these boys are on ridiculous amounts of money and haven't done anything in the game feruz is prime example imagine where he would be right now if he had stayed got 1st team regular foorball

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13 Jul 2015 22:40:08
I am in Spain just now any chance of some one posting about the game on Wednesday? Can't see me having any chance of seeing it thanks

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14 Jul 2015 06:13:42
Where in Spain are you?

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14 Jul 2015 08:21:33
FANELS

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15 Jul 2015 08:04:43
There is supposed to be a bar called Bravehearts. In Lloret Delhi mar, no contact details,might not even be there any more but a friend of mine told me they used to have Celtic TV ,and it is live on CTV,you could google and try

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13 Jul 2015 20:52:59
Looking forward to Wednesday's game, let us hope it is the start of a long european adventure this season, so my first CL team of this new season would be. (4231) Gordon,
Lustig, Boyata, Mulgrew, Izzaguire
Brown, Biton,
Mackay-Steven, Johansen, Armstrong,
Griffiths,
Ciftci.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't think they'll let us start with 12 men, Tim and after Legia Warsaw last year I wouldn't chance it.}

13 Jul 2015 22:20:53
pmsl you don't miss a beat Ed (y)

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{Ed007's Note - :=D

13 Jul 2015 22:26:30
Haha nice one Tim! Nice try mate! Don't think we'll need the 12 against them! Maybe chance it if we get to the group stages lol

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14 Jul 2015 02:39:55
I see Baldrick (I mean Tim) sounds like a cunning plan

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14 Jul 2015 12:00:25
Ha ha I will take it on the chin obviously I meant Griffiths OR Ciftci starting lol, and yes ED007 after Legia I hope all Celtic's registration papers are lodged in the proper place.

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13 Jul 2015 14:47:49
As we are in a league that pays out about 1.5m fir winning it, I see the benefit of three qualifying games in the CL if we are prepared for it.

If we get three home crowds of say 40,000 that 120,000 x at least £20 a ticket, plus TV means if we are ready we can add about £4m before we even get there. It also means we hit the ground running for the league.

This mibey would pay fir all of our recent signings and wages.

The problems not three games. It's not being able to negotiate them. That's why Lawell's past form of waiting to qualify first was bolloks.

If we get the players early, keep our best to suit our needs and not their's to play in the epl then these games are a warchest and a good prep.

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13 Jul 2015 15:11:06
Doesn't make sense mate. If we qualify we suddenly have about 20m not budgeted for. So what do we do with it? Half time draw maybe, or give refunds to season ticket holders lol. We have to wait and see we simply can attract better players. Nothing wrong with what RD has done already in signings but I would think extra quality will be brought in if we do get there.

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13 Jul 2015 15:23:55
The prep should be all geared toward the qualifiers or there will be nothing. Be good enough to get there and then invest further on the back of it.

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13 Jul 2015 11:28:40
Looking like I'm not going to be able to get to the game Wed. Does anyone know of any pubs in town or even Barras that have Celtic TV or will be streaming it?? Desperate to watch it, any help would be much appreciated

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13 Jul 2015 12:30:14
Would it not be just as easy to go to the game if you can goto a pub in the city or Barras?😏

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13 Jul 2015 13:32:14
That's a very valid point Jim. Why would anyone want to watch it in a pub when the real thing is just up the road? The tickets are not too pricey and they're available.

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13 Jul 2015 16:58:39
I'm working till 8 so would miss most of it therefor not that keen to pay for a ticket for half a game of football! That okay with uz?

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13 Jul 2015 17:07:08
Sorry for attitude I miss-read your comment and thought you were giving me greif. reading over it again can see it was a suggestion my bad lol

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13 Jul 2015 09:37:24
If the highest offer for VVD is 6.5 what do you think it would be if he played for Liverpool considering they are getting close to 50 million for sterling? Obviously I'm not thinking VVD is worth that, I don't even think sterling is worth half that. Just another example of over inflated egos in an over inflated league with more money than sense

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13 Jul 2015 12:03:48
Sterling ain't worth £10m.

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13 Jul 2015 12:26:35
Sterling (like Andy Carroll and other over priced over hyped players) has done very little to justify such a huge fee.
The EPL - aided and abetted by SLY, has done tremendous harm to the 'transfer market' by imposing and paying absolutely ridiculous prices on very average 'talent'.
Obviously we are in a much poorer and inferior league up here but we still attract a fair amount of International stars who's value is undermined by their inflated status.
Unfortunately, we usually accept offers that appear less than what would seem a fair and realistic valuation and coupled with the far inferior TV revenue we 'generate' is why we will always be the poor relations.

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13 Jul 2015 00:12:11
Has anyone heard of vvd offers

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13 Jul 2015 09:38:07
Someone on another post said highest was 6.5 million

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13 Jul 2015 15:44:42
Don't know about anyone else but I would think at least 10m for vvd when you look at Dejan Lovren went to Liverpool for 20m last season and I don't think he is twice the player vvd is,the thing is,if Southampton buy him he will probably go for a lot more after one good season as Southampton have been doing it for the past couple of seasons now,they are a conveyor belt for the top six teams so if Southampton come in I would at least be looking for 10m.

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13 Jul 2015 17:09:04
Mangala for 40m? Van Dijk for 80m! Of course a product or player is only worth what someone will pay. But there is a market out there to work off. If it is EPL teams, and I believe Sunderland were one of them, then it is they who should be exploited, not Celtic for being in Scotland! I don't think any bid below £15m should be accepted, particularly not if we qualify for CL. As I really don't think we should sell him until after the qualifiers. If he's a poor man Denayer. I dread to think what Efe is.

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