Celtic Banter Archive July 13 2013

13 Jul 2013 21:29:39
here ed am a no rite in sayin thit "sellik the" hud a pish pre seesun last year tae?
a rest ma case?
by the waey did that wee scunner timbo leave you wae ma £50?
if no am takin it oot yur dug asap

13 Jul 2013 18:25:42
Like everybody else I'm suck of the Hooper situation.

Yes he was great for 2 years or whatever but let's face facts.

1. He's not put in a string of decent performances in the last 6-8 months.
2. Not interested in signing a contract
3. Clearly has the lofty ambitions of playing in the bottom half of the premiership or even the championship.

I was one of your biggest fans Gary but just go now will you, we only want people who want to be here. There are plenty of guys who would kill for what you've got and have been offered.

Looking forward to seeing you totally regret your decision very soon ;) ok that's a wee bit bitter but true.

No ones bigger than Celtic, certainly not Gary hooper .

Craigie_bhoy

Agreed 100%.

Move him on and find someone else.

Good luck Gary, thanks for the first 2 years. You'll never play for a club the size of Celtic again.

Totally agree mate I like hooper a lot and respect the guys right to do as he wishes so its thanks gary but off you trot I only want guys who really want to be here, guys who are hungry and see a club like celtic as thethe pinacal of their career the problem with english players is the think they need to play in the epl tp get international recognition, we should look at players from the so called lesser nations as their F.As don't have the same snobbery when it comes to our league as that shower
HH thommyj

13 Jul 2013 17:56:55
So mr Cowan is rambling on about how big Vic left for money reasons, wow this guy should be working for a paper or something? With his intake on the pro game we love to call football, I thought he would of known all footballers do it for the love of the club nowadays and money don't come in to it, but he could not help himself maybe it's the morning after his favourite day that he couldn't help haveing a crack at Lowell and the club that is keeping the whole of Scottish football afloat, with jibes at lowall

Is that tam Cowan? What does he ever do that isn't for money reasons?

Big vic did'nt leave for money reasons, celtic sold him for money reasons, he had two years left on his contract, they could have used him for two more years and let him go for free, at the end if he did'nt want to stay, they would not have lost any money on him, they just would'nt have made any money on him, I would have kept him, the team was better with him, but he's gone now so we just have to move on, I just don't understand why they sold him.

13 Jul 2013 17:46:22
Cliftonville won 2-9 today against a team called crumlin or something lol still shows they're obviously sharp and ready but play players who have spl experience to play on their small pitch we should win by 4-5 goals. Line ups? , Forster , izzy Wilson Mulgrew Lustig , forest Brown Ledley Sammy , Commons , Stokes

If you think that mate get to a bookie.I cannot see us winning by anything like that. green jhedi

2 goal would be great but any dort of a lead for the return will do considering the shape we're in at the moment but remember we wern't any great shakes at this point last year either and they came good when it matter
HH thommyj

13 Jul 2013 15:48:51
Even though our policy now seems 2 be buy em young bring em through and sell on for bigger money make a big profit and can't deny that's good for the club revenue wise but on the other hand we r gona now have 2 constantly re build the team season after season which is gona lack stability a lil bit. Really think we need 2 start buyin a few older experienced players even if they r hitting 30 or over think everyone can agree that even though with the amazin cl run last season its clear we lack experience and need a few old heads in our team

GunnieBhoy

Agreed, we just need to find the right guys. I don't want ro bad talk john park or lenny but all the over 30 buys/loans have been abysmal. Doyle isn't looking so bad to me now lol or dunne. We definitely need some older heads in the team broonie, commons, sammy and ledley are our leadership guys but I still think 1 or 2 more, maybe an older defender would'nt hurt.

Darrenbhoy

Darren a would take big dunne in a second lol a don't see the negativity people on here r givin him he's 33 that's young for a cb if he can stay fully fit he would be a fantastic signin and after these pre season games a would take doyle aswel big blde looks like a bit ae a dud

GunnieBhoy

13 Jul 2013 14:31:43
You know what annoys me that vydra guy scored 22 goals in like 50 odd games in the championship and Is worth 10 million plus hooper plays champions league and is worth less. Also zaha you have to say haha way overrated plus the pressure english media put him under could ruin his career.

13 Jul 2013 12:54:01
i don't share the horror and worry of most posters regarding pre season results as they are what they are PRE SEASON, its for fitness, getting new bhoys familiar with the existing players and giving youngsters some first team experience, players are played out of position formations are changed to give game time, a lot of the problems we are seeing stems from the fact we have to cram in double training /fitness sessions and games(4 in 8 days) into a short period as we have early cl qualification, what is worrying to me rather than losing training games is we've known for a long time wanyama was leaving and hooper is desperate to go (and looks like he will) and we have done nothing yet to replace them, I would have hoped replacements had been scouted for when they left(or before) and put in place immediately, hopefully they have and we will see some movement before cliftonville(could new signings play at cliftonville or is there a registration needed , ed?) but what players do we buy?, do we go for cheap young unknowns and hope they come good or do we use all the funds available and buy the best experienced players we can, or do we bank the money lose our top scorer and best mid and hope what we have already is good enough, as a cynic I think we will do none of the above and go for average loan players and freebies again, and I think that is worse than a bad pre season,,,, deep river bhoy

Its about fitness?if celtic won all there pre season games you would be on here spouting rubbish like lennons the new stein baldes the new drogba and we will get 40m for him in january the dutch boy is the new baresi 30m and man u will be after that boy that wolves ditched just like they wanted kayal and izzy but your team got rode like an auld bun so its just about fitness oh and I heard the 6-2 riding was the refs fault classic celtic

Did I send my post to carstairs by mistake,,,, deep river bhoy

That's the longest sentance ever. Good job sevcoboy! If carlsberg did rangers fans they would know how to punctuate.

Darrenbhoy

P.s. Balde might be rubbish but he is worth more than all your signings put together.

13 Jul 2013 10:46:40
So with Hooper as good as gone it's time to start speculating who we should replace him with. And let's be honest, we must replace him! For me it's a simple choice - Adam Le Fondre

LM67

13 Jul 2013 10:28:53
i've let the dust settle after last nights debacle before posting, I wanted to give the bhoys a chance to settle into some rhythm this pre-season and see how they looked.

I'm well aware you shouldn't judge on pre-season but let's be frank here in all has anyone got pass marks? I certainly can't think of anyone who stands out! We have sold Vic, Hooper will be gone by the end of the week and we've replaced him with Dijk & Balde. Dijk looks alright but Balde is just Fortune Mk2, couldn't hit a barn door with a shotgun! between Stokes, Watt, Balde & Sammy there will be no more than 35 goals this season! a proven goalscorer is needed to play alongside stokes otherwise CL participation will be over before the end of august!

HH
pfb79

13 Jul 2013 10:06:32
People on this site are shocking. The guy has done us a lot of good and you know that when players come from down south they ultimately want to go back. So lay off thevguy and just hope we grt a decent price. And stop turning on players as soon as they leave
Mark0810

I assume your talking about Hooper? I don't think anyone on here has been overly critical of him.I would thank him for his service and wish him well. But we cannot let him run his contract down and walk for free. green jhedi

13 Jul 2013 07:35:31
Lennon has admitted its looking more and more likely Hooper will leave. I thought Hooper said last week he wants to stay.

Part of me thinks something isn't right behind the scenes between Hooper and Lennon.

But if Hooper has said he wants out then bad show from the lad saying he wants to stay last week.

He won't get an England call up at qpr or norwich.

We lost Wanyama last week and now it seems we're about to loose Hooper soon. Dreading Wednesday night.

MikeyBhoy88

Hooper played it very well.He never said he wanted to stay.He did say he was looking forward to scoring more goals and playing in the champions league. I read that as he will sign a pre contract in Jan.

We cannot allow this to happen.If he wants to go that's fine.Good luck to him, but don't expect a club of our size to roll over and facilitate his future planning.If he won't sign, he will not be first pick in the coming season.Thats the way it should be. green jhedi

He wouldn't get an England call up if he played for Manchester United he's not good enough Sell now!

I just think Lenny is as tired of hoppers antics as we all are. The lad is now playing the contract game into a relationships busting position methinks. He did Celtic well, cost two million and will go for £4.5m and delivered an excellent three years with our blessing. Hooper is not bigger than the club but kinda beginning to feel that way which is irksome.

13 Jul 2013 06:33:22
Well this preseason has been disastrous. 12 goals shipped 3 goals scored. Sammi Gets pass marks for looking interested. Van dyke looks promising and a couple of the guys looked pretty good. We sold our best player and our top goal scorer looks like he will be gone in a week. The rest ranging from rank rotten to not nearly good enough. The team looked unbalanced and disorganised. Players forgetting that passing to a team mate is actually a fundemental skill. Possession given away constantly. Defenders that can't defend. Midfielders that can't or won't tackle. Poor fitness levels. No link up play and the biggest sin of all. Giving the ball away by giving up possession constantly. Is Stokes playing for a contract? It looked like he was out for a Sunday pub team yesterday. But I could slate most of them. We also have many injuries. Why is that a surprise? Cluj apart the teams were mixing it from the start. They were playing a big team. Were fired up and did not mind kicking pushing and working over our team who looked a bit fragile in any case. I was prying Sammi was ok as without him we were poor. The new defender and Amido look very average. Its not good enough and we fans have every right to be a tad peed off. I am glad we were so sportsman like changing then CL tie. It will be close and we will get another injury more than likely. The coaching staff and team appear to have been on holiday so they better get their work heads on PDQ. On the back of all this if a decent recognised quality player is not brought in and I have no reason to think that then I think the board also will be letting the fans down. Sopotcelt.

A fair assessment Sopotcelt. Too many shoddy attitudes in our team. We need positive vibes in the squad and that's why we need Hooper out. there's no point in our players looking at our star striker and him looking for a way out.

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

Dylan mcgeough did himself no favours at all he was abysmal in all 4 games he simply ain't good enough and balde just looks like another bangura, commons lazy and didn't look interested, wilson and forster both had a bit of a nightmare, kayal & rogic just ain't good enough the rest ain't worth mentioning maybe except sammi who did actually look as though he was interested.
dhman

13 Jul 2013 00:32:27
Worst pre season ever? getting p*mped from teams I've never heard of

13 Jul 2013 00:11:01
I think celtic really have to pull there fingers out I know these games are friendlies but we have lost them all we have a champions league match next week and we are in bad shape IMO this Irish team are on a par with some of the teams who have beat us if we do not buck up our ideas we could end up out if Europe b4 we even begin, I also think we need to fresh things up lot of players in limp mode not good to see!

We might have a bulging bank balance. But what's the use of money in the bank if the team is under achieving? We need to strengthen ASAP. Hope there is work being done behind the glare of publicity to bring in players who will fight for the jersey and produce decent results. Julieghirl

I keep saying what is the objective? The strategy is not flexible enough and selling our best players means we have a two season turn around. One season bedding in. One season producing results then sold to the highest bidder. It effectively means we will never produce consistent results either in europe or possibly even in our one horse race league. Shockingly it also means our young players are stifled and don't get their chance as we are bringing in the likes of Amido and Van dyke. An area where we have already got promising youngsters. Twardzik and McGeough are on the way to being ruined for lack of development. Watt won't be far behind. So instead of blowing smoke up the boards Ar** let's find out what the objective is. If its to remain solvent then tell us. Its easy to find our natural level play in our league and develop only our own players. There is no competition. We would still very probably win the league. For sure we would have a bit more excitement. If we are a feeder team for the English leagues then tell us. There is no way anyone will convince me we are serious about a european challenge when we sell our best players as a matter of policy. Very soon our promising players value will be halved and we as fans whilst paying and being milked for every penny will see foreign failures bleed us white. Either develop the young guys or make a proper concerted challenge in europe. No half hearted strategy of selling, develop, sell. It leads nowhere but to frustration and dissapointment. We have to start asking questions. Its time for the real strategy to be made public. Sopotcelt.

@1 if we get knocked out this round or the next that out allocated 15m or more windfall to atleast get a turnover gone and most of wanyamas money will be used for wages so these rounds mean allot more than you know

@SopotCelt. Excellent points mate. green jhedi

Just trying to make sense of it mate. From a business perspective the strategy is half baked and seems to forget that the fans want winners and a winning team as oppose to bean counters who want loadsamoney! I mean you don't expect to win an F1 race using a great car but with off road tyres fitted. Sopotcelt.

12 Jul 2013 23:49:27
Hi all, I've just had a thought and I'm interested to see if anyone agrees or has a counter-point: would you rather Celtic started treating the January transfer window as our main time to sign players (that is, sign them in January itself, *not* Bosman deals). My thinking here is the CL qualifiers - let's say we signed Balde and Van Dijk in the Jan window just gone, they may well have cost more but they'd have been bedded into the team and ready, as it currently is they might not be firing on all cylinders till September or so, and if we lose more key players like Vic this summer (and therefore might need their replacements straightaway), it could be too late by then.

Contrast this summer with the last, I'm pretty sure all of our main players were first team-ready by now. Just a thought and all that!

Glenn