Celtic Banter Archive August 13 2015

13 Aug 2015 21:40:25
Don't usually post the old I know someone who knows a player is going to sign but I've heard from a mate Allan is defo signing! Didn't really believe it till he said it! Still find it an odd signing but I'll support the guy! U got any views on this ED? Did u see this comin?

{Ed007's Note - I knew Hibs had offered him to us a week or so ago but I didn't think anything would come of it. I don't know why we're signing him as I don't see him as any better than players we have and as I said earlier, for Aidan Nesbitt is a better player.}

13 Aug 2015 22:45:05
Yeh just can't understand why we're going for him! So many more positions that we need strengthened! Very strange! The only good thing about is it will make the sevconians raging!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

{Ed007's Note - They do seem a tad upset about it.}

13 Aug 2015 23:44:14
The deal for Allan is £450k but Hibs have him for one more year. Don't know why we are buying him?

14 Aug 2015 08:53:37
If original rumours right we offered him back on loan but that has now changed to loan of henderson. Wonder if Allan wasn't willing to see out season at hibs so we sweetened the deal to push it through.

Also sounds more future planning ( as replacement for johanson or biton?) and in line with getting Scotton players when possible as are less likely to just see celtic as stepping stone.

13 Aug 2015 20:49:02
Ed do u think there is anything in the Jonathan soriano romour. Do u think it's even a possibility? . I think it could be the misery striker if there is one lol. What's you're thoughts on it?.

{Ed007's Note - I'd be surprised if he's a target, his age and sell-on value immediately flag up as reasons why I can't see it.}

13 Aug 2015 21:09:15
Surely not every player needs to have a sell on value. If he can rattle in goals for fun then he'd easily make the club their money back

13 Aug 2015 21:20:26
Do u think there is anything in the misery striker?. I was thinking about soriano cause he has fell out with salsburg. Won't cost a lot and is a goAl scoreer. It fits in with what Alec Rae was saying. But I understand what u are saying about no resale value. I hope it is him tbh

{Ed007's Note - I've said all along that I expect another striker to be brought in.}

13 Aug 2015 21:31:14
Do u expect it ton em a quality striker or "project" type player??

{Ed007's Note - Can't he be both? ;(

13 Aug 2015 22:43:49
Our recent signings up front don't fill me with confidence. Apart from Griffiths and possible cifci all our recent striker signings have been a pure wast of money . I would much rater we went for a tried and tested option rather than a player who "could " be a good player

13 Aug 2015 23:52:44
The tried and trusted striker may not want to spend the best years of his life in the SPL . Maybe if we could guarantee Champions League Football .


Good to note our last two striker signings , maybe ok .

13 Aug 2015 19:56:02
We need a bigger more indepth squad. Allan will be more an asset to the team than Dylan Mcgeoch. Yes we need a new striker left back and centre half. But Allan gives more options to Ronnie.

13 Aug 2015 20:37:46
Dont need any more midfielder got to many of them squad is unbalanced as it is overloaded with midfielders stokes will be away and hopefully scepovic aswell so we need strickers in asap not confident about this malmo game with the firepower we have right now its so blantanly obvious were we need a few players only one not to see this is lawell

13 Aug 2015 21:23:41
If the chat is correct about loaning him back to Hibs there may well be some of our mids sold by next season in which case I'd think he'd be a shrew buy!

13 Aug 2015 21:38:53
If the chat is correct about loaning him back to Hibs there may well be some of our mids sold by next season in which case I'd think he'd be a shrew buy!

13 Aug 2015 21:48:47
How do we know that Mr Lawwell isn't fully aware of what we need but cannot get
the targets until we qualify for the Champions League . Players happy to come to Celtic to play in the SPL may not strengthen us much .

13 Aug 2015 15:17:48
I just can't understand posters like @Henrikstongue who think last nights result was a good result to draw 2-2 against Kilmarnock. Yes, we rested a few players but we should of have had enough depth in squad to sail past Kilmarnock.

The problem we have is fans like @Henrikstongue who are taken in by PL and his usual PR bull$hit. They are holding the club back. The amount spent on season tickets and merchandise by supporters each season is a fair bit. Especially when things are not so easy these days with the current state of the economy. We as Celtic supporters are not here to line pockets, we are here to see club progress and develop, so that we continually do well both domestically and in europe.

Im not saying "break the bank" signings, however I am saying we need at least £5m invested each season and crucially a new Head Scout identified who will be able to know what a striker does

13 Aug 2015 16:11:34
DN previously it was all Lennons fault, now he is not there you have moved onto PL and JP. Whos next?
Maybe just maybe the actual problem is you lol.

13 Aug 2015 16:20:45
DN30 I think you secretly love when something doesn't go our way so you can moan. Do you ever post anything positive? The way you're talking we should go a full season unbeaten? Yes, we were poor in patches last night, yes, we could go a decent striker(you're still not giving Cifti a chance BTW) and yes we need a left back but wait till the Windows shut before condemning everything about the club. You also quite obviously have no idea about business if you think PL doesn't do a good job! And yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but FFS post something positive once in a while.

13 Aug 2015 17:06:41
Rayman I think your right lol

Cmcbhoy actually I do post a lot of positive things and your post regarding a left back, where have I commented about that?

How do you know I don't know anything about business? Not that its any of your business to be honest, but I quit my job earlier this year to avoid uprooting family to germany and started my own business which is doing very well! But all that aside as its totally irrelevant, but even "not the sharpest tool in the shed" with no business accumen can work out that anything that causes an unecessary leakage, resulting in loss of revenue is bad for business. That leakage at Club is JP and the amount of £m lost in strikers of late. PL fault for letting this continue!

13 Aug 2015 17:32:14
Sorry I thought I'd just get the left back in! And what exactly is the cause for this loss of revenue. You'll need to explain that to me? The simple fact is that most clubs in Britain would take pl as their chief executive. How to you know it's not DD that's not allowing the funds? How do you know we've not tried to get these players you are talking about? Sorry I'm typing this on my phone if I've missed something.

13 Aug 2015 17:47:58
cmcbhoy the cause of lost revenue is the sucession of dud strikers we have seen at club and either released on a free or sold for a substantial loss. i'm not saying we will get it right everytime because it just doesn't work like that, but to have a scout who has failed to identify 1 striker (Hooper and Griffiths were not JP scouted) surely alarm bells must be ringing. With this policy we have in place at moment of signing young players developing them and selling them for a profit, keeping JP is a total contradiction as he has caused losses.

13 Aug 2015 18:12:40
Ran I have heard it all now! In your post to DN30 you state "maybe the problem is you"! How can DN30 influence what happens at Celtic? He is entitled to his opinion and so are you but to try and put your point across re everything bad or good at Celtic having anything to do with any supported voicing an opinion is a bit daft don't you think?

13 Aug 2015 20:33:08
I don't know if it is a problem but the responsibility for results and performances lies with one man, the manager. I am getting concerned that he is slipping back to naive tactics and believes that having five or six excellent attackers will win us the games. Her seems not too appreciate the dangers other teams can pose until the game is over and then states that the player lack discipline. this is wholly a coaching issue and if players know their job but don't do it get them off the field

13 Aug 2015 22:05:30
There are plenty of blogs and tweets from non Celtic Football fans and from the Scottish media that find fault with our manager , Mr Lawwell and the board . These people want us to fail . I know that from time to time posters on Celtic forums can become negative and cannot help themselves.

14 Aug 2015 00:04:36
There are also tweets from Celtic fans who think the same. A lot of posters seem to think that regardless of results and standard of play unless we accept what is put in front of us we are not true supporters and are damaging the club? I disagree. The supporters who are protecting RD, PL and players who don't deliver are the ones damaging the club. We should all be letting the club know that what they put in front of us week in and out is acceptable. The club buy players based on a potential sell on price rather than considering if they are good enough to play for us today. Same with the manager. Still learning his trade but may work out so the club took a punt on him. For me he is too one dimensional and will be ok in Scottish prem but once again will fail to get us into CL and that would be a blow.

14 Aug 2015 00:17:31
Old Bhoy I geniunely believe Deila is right man for the job, however its Lawwell i'm really concerned about. We should be investing to ensure CL football each season, not struggling aganist teams like Karabag.

14 Aug 2015 02:20:14
@Jonnymac, I can't believe u took that seriously. I know DN didn't so wind your neck in mate and recognise the word "LOL". We constantly wind each other up, you should try it sometime lol.

13 Aug 2015 13:16:32
These are a list of players in my opinion who would be within our budget and do and who would improve on what we have or at the very worst provide good competition.
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Left Backs::[/U][/B]
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Eren Albayrak - Rizespor[/B]

A very attack minded full back who has good delivery as he was originally a winger. His move to left back has done him the power of good as he is very good at timing his runs past the midfielder infront of him. Defensively he is strong enough. Much like Izzy he sometimes suffers because he is up and down the pitch a lot but a good player imo.

[B]Fabio Deprela - Palermo[/B]

He's on the fringes of things at Palermo but any time I've seen him play he has good ability. Decent defensively, not the most attack minded but that could be more about the way Italian football is played so it's hard to tell how great he going forward. Capped by Switzerland at all youth levels and was a youth player at West Ham.


[B]Laurens De Bock - Club Brugge[/B]

A more steady left back defensively you will struggle to find within our price ranges. This guy is a more than capable defender and has plenty of European experience for a 22 year old. He's not high up the charts for assists but again Brugge play in a manner than see's the defence doing pretty much just that, while the midfielders and attacking players are given more freedom. Works well for them as they were easily the highest scoring team in Belgium last season.

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Central Defenders::[/U][/B]

[B]Loic Perrin - St.Etienne[/B]

This goes against the grain for us just now as Perrin is 30 years old. However if Virgil goes and we are looking for a leader then look no further. This guy is a very good player, a good defender who lead St.Etienne to being the second tighest back line to beat in Ligue 1 last season, just behind Monaco. Our squad lacks a few older heads imo and this guy still has 3 or 4 very fine years in the tank.

[B]
Christian Kabasele - Genk[/B]

Another Belgian to look at. Big strong powerful lad who flourished under McLeish last season. Bit prone to the odd yellow card but has the raw materials to become a very strong central defender.


[B][U]Holding Midfielders::[/U][/B]

[B]Liam Bridcutt - Sunderland[/B]

If he isn't in old Dicks plans then he's a steal. He was a fanstastic player at Brighton under Poyet. Plenty of gusto about his game and he can also play in the style Deila likes with high intensity and lots of short passes. Probably outwith our reach if anyone else is sniffing but a loan with a view to signing him maybe.

[B]
Taulant Xhaka - Basle[/B]

This lad can play in central defence or in midfield. On the games I've seen I think he is better in the holding role as he's almost to combative to play in defence. Has a bit of the Broony about him as he enjoys a wee battle.
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Wingers::[/U][/B]
[B]
Ali Crawford - Hamilton[/B]

I really like Crawford as a player, maybe not a winger as such but he can play across any of the 3 attacking positions. Has a good eye for a pass and he's got a good eye for a goal. He showed last season against us that he also has a knack of getting himself beyond the striker to get a goal.


[B]Luciano Slagveer - Heerenveen[/B]

Very quick attacking right sided winger / forward. Pace to burn and has a decent finish when he gets in on goal. End product is like most young wingers but he should improve. I really liked his old playing partner Ziyech but he's moved to Vitesse and has been very good for them as well and is now well above our price range I'd imagine.


[B]Agim Ibraimi - Maribor[/B]

We've all seen that this guy can do great things with that left peg of his. Maybe a bit of a luxury player in some respects but with a left foot like that all he needs is that yard of space and you know more often than not your attackers are going to have a feast.
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[B][U]Strkers::[/U][/B]

[B]Amr Gamal - Al Ahly[/B]

At 24 this guy has really flourished having had game time at Al Ahly who have been known for producing some very talented young players. He's quick enough to go in behind, has a wicked left foot, can play up front alone and if you give him service then he'll score with his head, feet, arse or any other legit part of his body. Reminds me a bit of the man we all laughed at being linked with Chicarito, but with better aerial ability.

[B]
Bassem Morsi - Zamalek[/B]

Bit of a character judging by his bio where one coach said he was more interested in his looks than his game. Another who has really impressed in his games for Egypt over the past year and he had a fine season for Zamalek. Not as quick as Gamal but he's a strong lad who has fantastic instincts in the penalty box.

[B]
Renaud Emond - Waasland-Bevern[/B]

Big tall lad who has a wicked right peg and a more than decent left peg to boot. He's done very well for a team who struggle more often than not in the Pro League. I'm actually surprised to see he's still at WB as he has a good ratio of taking his chances and with 13 goals in 28 games last season he done well, especially as his coach seems to like to move him around a lot. Playing him as a winger and midfielder in at least 10 of those 28 games. Imo he's most effective playing as a striker and again he can play upfront on his own. Only major downside is he isn't going to beat many folk in a race.
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Stefanos Athanasiadis - PAOK[/B]

Greek hitman who has a decent scoring record, including some goals in the Europa league, also links very well. My only concern is he likes to drift wide or drop deep, something that imo stops him getting more goals because he is a very capable finisher when he's in the box. He's especially good at getting to the front post and finishing on the angle. Seems to be decent in the air and pace wise he's fast enough to ensure that he'll rarely get caught if he gets in behind.



[U][B]Various Potential Loans::[/B][/U]

Wellington Silva - Arsenal - A talented young Brazilian winger who Wenger rates very highly and after a few seasons on loan in Spain is now rumoured to be looking to get him out on loan in the UK.

Nick Powell - Manchester United - Didn't work out well for him at Leicester last season and they terminated his loan due to issues with him in training. This lad had plenty of ability, maybe just needs a foot up the arse or a bit of love.

Abdelaziz Barrada - Marseille - His move carried a lot of expectation but he hasn't really found his way at OM yet.

Maxwel Cornet - Very promising striker in Lyons ranks. Good record for the French youth teams and highly thought of. Might even be pushing for 1st team action this year but if you don't ask.

13 Aug 2015 13:52:32
is this a cut and paste job, what does these (B) and (U) mean?

13 Aug 2015 14:47:03
bold and underline probably

13 Aug 2015 17:07:49
There are hundreds of footballers who we could list and who maybe could do a good job for us . However there isn't much point in listing them , as we will never know whether they would be of any use to us . We as a club cannot sign players on a hunch , who may or may not play well for us .
Juninho., Graveson Roy Keane and Gillespie were all example of players most fans were happy to come to us and most of us thought we would get at least a couple of good seasons out of .

13 Aug 2015 18:35:47
Boring and uninteresting.killy.

13 Aug 2015 11:08:15
Everyones acting like we are talking about signing Ronaldo!I don't think we will sign Allan but if it does it won't be the biggest shock In world football! Everyone should calm down when his name is mentioned

13 Aug 2015 12:36:59
Where did this mystery man come from? Alex Rae? So he knows something the rest of the European media doesnt. Plausible? No. Possible. Aye. But why is he being so cryptic? My guess would be to get a few more folk tuning in for whatever show he's on.

13 Aug 2015 09:07:05
Not going to say too much about the Killie game, we should have had 6 goals in first 20 minutes but poor finishing let us down.
Now to my main points I will be worried if Commons and Biton do not make the Malmo game (both came off with injuries) Commons sees passes others do not and Biton is just undroppable just now.
On to GMS, I think he has gone backwards a bit, when he first signed he was fast, tricky and posed a goal threat, these days he seems sluggish and is not involved in the games.
Forrest? what else can be said, he always LOOKS like scoring, then makes poor decisions as to shooting when he should pass or passing when he is in a better position to shoot. We all know his crossing is atrocious also, only Delia knows why he is still getting game time.
Hopefully Lustig, Armstrong, Brown, Biton and Commons are all fit for next Wednesday as we will need them all at the top of their games.
Only saving grace about last night, was the already over confident Swedes had their manager watching and will think it will be easy against us, wrong pal but Celtic need 2 strong performances to progress.

13 Aug 2015 10:01:36
Tim . gms laid two chances on a plate for Griffiths from good wideplay just before their pen that's what he is there for. if the strikers waste them how is gms playing bad going backwards? Is he being held/reigned in to keep the reams shape?but for all the direct running forrest done gms set up more chances

13 Aug 2015 12:50:17
Tim I'm not a massive fan of Forrest, but there is no doubt he was our best player last night, and when he went off chances dried up. His final ball was ok at times also. If his final ball was good all the time he wouldn't be playing for Celtic. Although it seems everyone hates Forrest, I think he deserves praise if he plays well.

13 Aug 2015 13:51:19
Commons sees passes others don't he done nothing but try shoot from anywhere last night when the better option was to pass but it's commons some fans think a he's the answer to everything even though he's the cause of a lot of celtics problems when he's playing it's more conviniant to blame Forrest or ambrose though

13 Aug 2015 00:59:36
Any truth in the rumour that we gave so much quality we can leave out players and still be good?

Naw, a didny think so.
Defence a total shambles. Finishing and final baw atrocious.

Collins pish just starting.