Celtic Banter Archive September 12 2015

 

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12 Sep 2015 20:14:32
Hi ed007.
There's a lot of talk for the manager to be replaced. If it were to happen who would you go for if given the choice? Realistically what kind of level do you think the board would be aiming?
I'm asking because you seen to have extra info on certain managers and their training, behaviour etc

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{Ed007's Note - RD won't be getting replaced so there's no point me speculating but I'm sure John Collins will have his backers behind the scenes.}

12 Sep 2015 21:07:45
I think John Collins would go down like a lead balloon with the fans

Maybe another JC could help us!

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12 Sep 2015 21:30:28
Collins? Seriously? He must have some serious dirt on those behind the scenes

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12 Sep 2015 21:51:31
Have noticed that all of the posters who were backing RD previously have gone very quiet? Has it at long last dawned on them that he is out of his depth? He was perfect for Lawell. Didn't cost a lot. Probably told PL we could compete in Europe without spending any money. Maybe PL will realise that success with RD is a pipe dream and we are now in a position where despite signing 17 players in 14 months we have gone backwards. In RD we trust? Give me a break!

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{Ed007's Note - Any ideas on what garbage PL told RD? I doubt 'We've replaced an English international with this GK that's not played a game for two years and has a worse medical history than a corpse. Oh and here's one of our Football Development Manager's cronies as your assistant manager. Don't worry about never having heard of him or even met, him and John are good mates and that's good enough for me, John and me decide most things anyway but we'll keep you in the loop. Have you heard of Danny Wilson, Ronny? John thinks he's a great player and even better than that he won't cost us any money next summer! Me and John are in a win win with it, so I'll let you know when the deal's done.' would have been mentioned in the first meeting.}

12 Sep 2015 22:59:11
if you go back and look at that video of RD giving that inspirational talk in that lecture theatre,but at that time the ronnie roar was on the go ,and all these Ronnie backers were going what a guy,we're lucky to have him,we've never had a manager that could do public speaking like that,the guys an inspiration,but now if you go back and listen to what he actually said,he was full of self doubt and taking gambles on players and luckily for him the gambles won,maybe he's like a gambler who keeps persisting with a method because once upon a time he won a lot of money using it,but now he does'nt realise all the money he has lost since using the method far outweighs all the money he ever won.

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12 Sep 2015 23:57:53
Johnnymac try again. I still am

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13 Sep 2015 11:58:23
TBH I am still not sure what John Collins has brought to the team. He seem inanimate during games and I sometimes wonder if he is smirking when RD has a failure (just what I feel and sense).
I think RD has a lot of hurdles trying to achieve what he wants and, like many, I don't think he is a strong manager. But I think he can be a great manager ngiven support and time

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12 Sep 2015 18:58:31
Ed, do you know of any unrest within he squad? It seems to me that the players are playing within themselves. Either that or they have been hammered in preseason and are totally knackered. It's September and the players look jaded. I think personally that the lack of investment has pissed off the squad.

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{Ed007's Note - I hope the players are pi$$ed off, they should be after their recent performances. That's been the easiest pre-season travel wise in years so I don't see how they got hammered unless it was a Broony night out you're talking about.
Lack of investment is no excuse for that performance in Malmo. If they're pi$$ed off they only have themselves to blame, so if there's any unrest in the squad tough, they put themselves in this position and if they don't like they can sod off. It'll be coming from the usual suspects anyway - he got his new two year deal in the end.}

12 Sep 2015 21:59:38
Ed, just to let you know, there has been unrest in the squad, there are many players who are unhappy about the training and how they are asked to play, you are going to ask how I know this, read the papers in a few days as this is about to hit the papers

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{Ed007's Note - It must be true then if it's going to be in the papers eh? If you don't want to train for CFC you sure as hell don't deserve to play for CFC, so go back and tell the snivelling lazy rat he's free to leave any time, whoever it is.
I can't wait to see this story, I'm sure the snivelling lazy rat has the minerals to put his name to it and stand up and be counted.}

13 Sep 2015 02:12:33
Magoo why don't you tell us then if you know?

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12 Sep 2015 19:54:20
So here is the $64m Dollar question.
How long will the board wait to act on poor performances / results or will they act at all?

Xmas to see if everything has turned around or before the Jan transfer window?

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12 Sep 2015 17:53:30
Did anyone catch / hear what RD said postmatch?

Where do you stand Ed? A know you usually wait to the dust settles but this is mince! we have only ONE fit player in my eyes in LG and that is RD's fault! although a have sympathy with him for the dross he has been fed!

This "schooling" the youth here he will never have came up against a situ where the opposition just raise there game time & time to nulify you never mind beat us!

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{Ed007's Note - It's down to the players, there's just not enough of the turning up. Blackett got a wake up call today about how tough Scottish football is going to be and any defence with Mulgrew is always going to be questioned, his positional sense seems to get worse by the season. It's too early to judge Boyata for me, I'd like to see him in a settled partnership with Simunovic as for some bizarre reason RD persists on playing Lustig at RB, he'll be off in January or next summer, he's not going to hang about at a club where the coaches won't even listen to the player's own opinion about his long term health - and yet we let Craig Gordon miss a match last season at Motherwell when he turned up and said he had a stiff neck, do the staff not believe the medical evidence about Lustig's hip problems? They've paid for enough medical treatment for it so they should do.
Brown and Johansen are unfortunately going though a poor run of form at the same time and that's why there's a distinct lack of drive in the team, it's usually those two running the show for us and when both are playing poorly we'll always struggle. Both of them need to get a good game under the belt or take a time-out to get themselves going again.
Unbelievably it looks as though in GMS we have a player trying his best to become the next James Forrest, he needs to realise at CFC you can't hide during games like he got away with at Dundee Utd if you don't fancy, if you play for CFC you've got to fancy it every week. I am starting to worry that moving to CFC might be a step too far for GMS, some players just can't handle it but I hope I'm proven wrong about the lad.
Up front Griffiths is doing well but when the attacking 3 aren't performing the lone striker should be dropping deep to help out and that's not part of LG's game, and the thought of the alternative terrifies me.
There's nothing I can say about CG that I haven't said a million times before, he spends so much time in no man's land I'm surprised he wasn't honoured at the Ibrox jamboree today!}

12 Sep 2015 21:57:22
Thanks Ed,

A think Boyata needs to be tried @ RB he has played there before a agree bring Lustig in one or he will only see half a season IMO a take it Jozo is the ball playing CH?

A don't know Ed about RD certainly PL will give him every chance but we seem so disjointed under this system his choice of Efe over Janko while Aberdeen down to 10 men was idiotic IMO Aberdeen were poor today but had fight/gusto we offered little

He is under pressure now for sure cannot afford much more lack luster performances ATVB

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{Ed007's Note - This is down to the players, Jamie, not the manager.}

12 Sep 2015 23:04:08
your wrong there Ed,the first refuge of a poor manager is to blame the players,take a bow craig brown,but to give Ronnie credit I don't think he's done that ,he knows the fault is his and his alone

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{Ed007's Note - A good manager should never publicly slate their players during times like this, part of his job is to shoulder the blame with the media and fans but I think in the privacy of the changing room and tactics rooms a few players will have faced some harsh home-thruths from the manager in recent weeks.}

13 Sep 2015 01:51:45
He blamed the players after the Malmo game saying they were scared and stressed,

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12 Sep 2015 20:15:54
I have always been behind Ronny and his methods. I think we needed fresh ideas as the club was in a bit of a shambles when he came in.

BUT, I think he may have he may have run his course and has been found out to be out of his depth.

We have two choices as I see it:

1. let him go and bring someone else in, I don't know who though.
2. Stick with Ronny, but give him some more back room support and experience. Collins and Kennedy don't have the required coaching experience and steady head he needs.

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12 Sep 2015 19:18:47
A question for those fans who say they backed RD from day one and it is an honest question not a criticism. What was it that convinced you he had the qualities to mange celtic successfully?

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12 Sep 2015 19:51:55
He was honest he was changing things that slowly started to work the fitness levels where noticeably up once he took over aswell but we are now going backwards maybe spending to much time on fitness and class work stuff we should be out training with a ball

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12 Sep 2015 19:11:21
Was waiting to hear other peoples opinions before a say my own but we are a mess of a team now what has happened a was a big critic of ronnie last year but he won me over near the end of last season liked what a was watching. Wow what has happened in a short space of time gutless in malmo awful today changes are needed a would start with the board but never going to happen but ronnie sorry fella time to go 3 champions league exits in space of a year continue to play forrest mulgrew ambrose need a say anymore time to go we are a shambles from back to front

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12 Sep 2015 19:01:32
Let's not beat about the bush there are a hundred managers plying there trade in Britain alone who could have us playing better football , have us more motivated , playing a better system ( Celtic playing one up front in the spl beyond ridiculous)and be more tactically aware than Ronnie , he is way out his depth and is not much better than fat sally , time to show peter and the board how we feel .

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12 Sep 2015 18:53:10
Hi I am just wondering if anyone knows where I can watch the games whilst i'm in Las Vegas?

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12 Sep 2015 19:37:35
Mark I wouldn't even waste your holiday watchn that pish mate!

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12 Sep 2015 20:23:14
In a dark room mate

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12 Sep 2015 22:19:48
Mark I'm just back from Vegas mate. I watched both Scotland matches in Blondies Sports Bar in the miracle mile next to Planet Hollywood. They had about 40 screens. Worth a try. A great bar with beer for two dollars. Have fun😉

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12 Sep 2015 18:36:21
was this just a bad day imo no,,have we got the brand of football promised imo no,,has the manager developed his style /game since last season imo no,,,has he been given backing by the board imo no ,,,have we went back a level that's the same as the other spl teams imo yes,,, our tems nucleus is formed

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12 Sep 2015 18:34:02
Let's get one thing right Aberdeen were woeful today so then what does that say about our performance. No urgency or energy. Defenders who cannot defend especially high balls into the box and midfielders who only go sideways with no commitment to push on and support our lone forward. Can't fault Griffiths or any player who plays a lone role up front it's a thankless task.
Ronnie has no clue and goodness knows what Collins brings. I don't expect us to win every game but I do expect us to win every Scottish game. Today was just not good enough.

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12 Sep 2015 18:31:05
Wonder if Wim Jansen is busy just now. Even at 68 i'd reckon he'd have better direction than our rudderless and seemingly captainless ship.

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12 Sep 2015 18:26:21
And u tell me what ronny has done in football I could manage celtic to win the league up here.just don't like the way he thinks we can play like barca when we have players we have. If the thumb had a strike partner he would do much better

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12 Sep 2015 18:18:26
I'm beginning to wonder what's going on at Celtic. I think the majority of Celtic fans have taken RD to they're hearts but at the end of the day it's not good enough. We all hoped big tony Mowbray would work and look how that ended. I really now believe it's time for change. We as fans demand that we spend money on players and here we have a reported £5 million player sitting in the stand and on the park we're playing a bomb scare in boyata, and then we bring on ambrose. That along with RD's failure to mix his formations up. We're set up the exact same every week and are so predictable it's unbelievable and when we're up against it RD seems unable to change it. It's the same with chris commons, am I not right in saying that last season when RD insisted in not playing commons our results were poor yet when commons was eventually reinstated to the squad the difference was night and day? I'm just a totally baffled Celtic fan.

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12 Sep 2015 18:59:15
Commons is finished , doesn't matter what formation we use.

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12 Sep 2015 19:40:55
Commons was player of the year and scored 30 plus goals til RD came in!! Think u'll find he's went back the way just like every other player since the managers came in!

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12 Sep 2015 22:20:45
Don't understand how u can say commons is finished? Ok he's not everyone's cup of tea but come on, your not telling me he doesn't bring more to the team than Forrest of GMS? As for formations, maybe if RD new how to impliment more than just his usual set up maybe we wouldn't be so predictable. I've said for long enough now, in the SPFL no matter the opposition home or away we should be playing with 2 strikers. Celtic have as far back as I can remember always played with 2 up top. This 1 up top is all fine and well in Europe when we're up against top quality opposition but for me domestically it should always be 2 up top

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12 Sep 2015 18:16:48
This formation we are playing Chelsea also play teams must now know how to conter 1 up front is rank rotten I'm starting to sound like a broken record but we need to go back to what we are good at

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12 Sep 2015 17:42:52
For me Gordon Strachan back ,and the board to back him. Give him the same control of team and club. With the same investment that was given to Martin O' Neil and things will move forward

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12 Sep 2015 18:05:15
The board won't. They won't back anybody. The board have to go before our manager that much is for sure. If RD is so bad then surely the blame still lies with the board?

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12 Sep 2015 19:21:06
JimTim I agree mate. What people fail to realise its one thing shouting about sacking Deila but regardless who we get in, same problems will be there. Board and Desmond have to go

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12 Sep 2015 20:32:39
DN you cudnt be more wong mate.Yea some problems will still be there ie not putting wages up or bigger transfer fees. BUT as you have said yourself there are plenty of players out there at the price we pay to get better quality.
Our manager simply cannot organise us. Look at the goals we lose at set pieces. He refuses to change things when its obvious things are not right. He thinks Boyata is a player. He thinks we have improved. What a laff. He plays Armstrong wide. He is snapping up the best talent in Scottish football and with the exception of Armstrong none are good enough.
The list goes on mate. Open your eyes its there for all to see.
Not so long ago YOU were very voiciferous in your slating of Lennon when he was in the CL.Now we can't get there, I wonder how you will feel if the same happens in EL.
Only a couple of years ago we were looking to qualify for last 16 of CL now we will be doing well to get 3rd in EL group.And realistically 5 points behind Aberdeen. Yet its all the boards fault. Progress right enough mate.

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12 Sep 2015 21:55:01
The people saying its the boards fault and backing Ronnie,are so blinded by their hatred of Lawwell and the board they are blind to the bleeding obvious,Ronnie is just not good enough,it was a brave and adventurous decision giving the managers job to a seemingly up and coming young manager with modern ideas and methods ,but unfortunately he is just not up to the job,also think it was a bad idea giving the assistants job to Collins,someone who had already shown at Hibs that man management is'nt his strongest suite,I mentioned Wim Jansen in a previous post months ago,maybe if it was up to me I'd sack Collins and ask Wim if he would like to come back to act as a mentor to Ronnie,he might not be good enough just now but with right guidance he might turn out alright,as for the team I would get Scot Allan into that midfield asap,start playing 442,with Ciftci and Griffs up front

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12 Sep 2015 17:23:14
So we're has it all gone wrong,from a team that can beat barca,Milan,juve ext,to the worse side since the Lou macari era,imo you have to go back to the last match in the nou camp when we lost 6-1,the following day Neil Lennon called for a meeting with lawwell about I suspect the need to strengthen the side boos one can only speculate his reply,but that after that meeting Lennon decided to walk away.Now this leaves lawwell with a hugh problem who to replace him with if he goes for an seasoned experienced manager,he will quickly realize what lennonalready knew and seek money to improve the side so lawwell is back at square one.so with his options very limited he comes up with a plan appoint a rookie manager with little or no experiance certainly not in European football if you disgusts norway a league poorer than scotland,now he has another problem,how do I convince the supporters to accept this appointment,this is we're we move into his area of expertise,SPIN, have them believe this appointment is the club thinking out of the box a manager for the future,a manager who has an ability in developing young of course none of this has any truth in it,it was all pure spin from the master of spin,fact or fiction,well if you set aside a young15 year old who is a long way from developed who are we left with johansen a player the more I see of the more I believe will turn out a one season wonder,playing in front of hugh crowds for a hugh flim,adrenalin kept him going not much more.so who are the other Developed players,how many are at clubs of any standing.I would suspect very few,if any.This may seem at face value an attack on Ronny Delia,it his not when offered the job of course he took it and I do not believe he has done anything but his best to be successful sadly that has not been enough.The blame lies fairly and squarely with lawwell and more so Desmond when you continue to sell the family silver it is only a matter of time before you run out of genuine silver and all that's left are the fakes,much like some of the fakes now pulling on those hoops I posted during the week the notion that the management team have lost the dressing room,footballers are very cute when it comes to managers,coaches,and ways of playing,my honest opinion is a lot of the present squad have no faith in any of the three,likewise when they see the quality of player being brought to the club,somehow these players need a massive boost in moral otherwise this season will get a hella lot worse I really do fear for the road our club is on.

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12 Sep 2015 17:16:19
Ronnie is miles out his depth , lambert with henrick as his assistant can save our season , come on peter and Dermot.

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12 Sep 2015 16:03:58
The board must stand up and take the blame for this shambles, everything they do, be it appointing managers or signing players, is based on the cheap option, not quality.
What sort of approach is it, that whenever we sell a player, we replace him with an inferior player, then somehow hope that if he goes on a diet and works on his fitness, that somehow he will become a quality player, it's madness.
Under Gordon Strachan, we won no end of matches in the last five minutes, now with these supposed fitness freaks, we are losing games and goals in the last five minutes, today we couldn't even hold on against 10 men without conceding, the supporters are being taken for fools.
I would rather a manager who would stand up to the board, and not just accept the rubbish that is being signed.
But I would also rather have a manager who can motivate the players for big matches, and not put out a team who get outfought and outthought by 10 men.
It was bad enough missing out on the Champions league, but if this carries on, we are going to miss out to Aberdeen for the league.
Something needs to change, and quickly, before we become a total embarrassment.

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12 Sep 2015 17:58:14
Gerry yes the board must take some responsibility,BUT are we as a team Organised? NO. Are we free scoring? No. Are we playing attractive football?,No. Do we even look fitter than other teams? No. all this is the managers fault.
Lets be honest here, you or I could manage Celtic to win the league, but could we get the best out of our players and have us playing good football? Very debatable.
Neither can our manager yet he is deemed fit to be so, why I don't know.

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12 Sep 2015 18:42:54
Lawell has been the model of complacency since Rangers died and has collected his huge salary and bonus off the back of the supporters cash and the money raised by selling our top players every single season.
Employing inexperienced, cheaper option managers who cannot answer back or fight their corner.
Now it is grinding to a worrying halt as we have no prize assets to cash in on and a manage, who's master plan has failed and faltered once again in an important game.
How many players have went backwards in the past year and how many dubious signings have been made?
We have an abundance of miniature midfield players (incl Christie, but no good defenders, and only one top striker and most importantly a severe lack of leadership;
The club, team and support needs a strong leader!

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12 Sep 2015 19:04:00
Can't disagree Rayman,
You can only judge a manager by how the team is doing compared to when he took over, and I don't see an improvement, in fact we seem to be getting worse.
The worrying thing for me, is that we just don't look motivated in too many games, and that is unforgivable.

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12 Sep 2015 15:30:53
Defensively boyata is a bomb scare honestly need to drop him he's getting away with it and there is cover for him! Silly for penalty y invite the ref to give it and need your cb to attack that cross, time for change in philosophy or manager this 4231 isn't cutting it in Europe or in Scotland. Dire today. 🙈

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12 Sep 2015 16:16:22
I would rather have the next generation squad's defence than that shambles

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12 Sep 2015 15:29:14
Ok here goes it's time we all faced up to the fact that ronnys not up to the task . He talks great but we were promised fast attacking. Football from a super fit side can anybody tell me one game where this has been evident? It's bad enough that were being made to look mediocre in Europe but when it is the same inthe domestic games it's time to call it a day

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12 Sep 2015 16:24:33
Don't think anyone can disagree with all the post match thoughts on today's performance,or thoughts on individuals.But and I'm not using this as an excuse Aberdeen should have been reduced to 8 men the penalty incident ,mc leans boot on lustigs head and Hayes .Mcleans kick was a disgrace when there was no ball to be won.just my thoughts .killy.

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12 Sep 2015 16:29:03
I think the supporters like me who were dubious of the appointment, but gave him the benefit of the doubt are feeling very disappointed and demoralised.
We were patient as his philosophy and diet regime needed time to filter through and by Christmas we seemed to have turned the corner and although lost out on a treble, we won the league at a canter and a cup in the cabinet.
I have never liked a lone striker system and in all my years watching Celtic, it was rarely used or utilised; however,
The team were actually playing well and scoring plenty of goals in the run-in and we seemed fitter than ever?

The VVD transfer was well foreseen as was the need for a striker and left back before the CL qualifiers, but we settled for inferior replacements and failed to qualify.
The transfer deadline saw us scrambling about as usual peddling loans and unknowns to 'make up the numbers'.

The team looks disjointed, pedestrian and predictable and if it wasn't for Griffiths we could be mid-table.
Aberdeen were not that great today, but competed and did the basics - and that's something we can't even do any more.
The promises and ideals that were going to transform us into this slick, attacking, closing down efficient machine has stalled and is needing a major overhaul or scrapped.

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12 Sep 2015 16:43:57
Proud let,I could not agree more,I said on here before RD is an Articulate Man, but he is useless as a coach,fitness is nowhere near what he told us he would achieve,and he is tactically second rate,only has plan A,does not know what B and C is, he should be gone,everyday the Club is sinking into mediocrity

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12 Sep 2015 17:59:29
Can the person who disagreed with me regarding possible red cards explain why.killy.

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12 Sep 2015 15:25:20
Inept, clueless, and lacking any ideas and that's just the manager.
My post is not based on todays performance.
We are now 13 competitive in to the season and has anyone seen a performance that we can be proud of? No. Even against a lowly Icelandic team we struggled, yet our manager yesterday told us we have improved. Aye right Ronny.
Whilst the manager cannot be responsible for individual mistakes ie Boyata and Gordon today, he can certainly make sure that Boyata doesn't play as this is now 4-5 mistakes from him.
Only a stupid manager continually plays the same player who continually makes mistakes.
70 mins gone today and they get a man sent off, so what does our esteemed manager do? He puts on a defensive right back (Ambrose) instead of Janko who is more forward thinking,why?
In a game where with 20 mins to go against 10 men where we need a goal he puts on Cifti instead of Commons, just plain crazy.
I have said before that Strachan has said managers at big clubs don't have to do a lot of coaching its the big decisions they have to get right, yet again today our manager doesn't get it right.
Can anyone suggest any big decisions he has actually got right?

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12 Sep 2015 15:23:54
My take is. We have 1 more asset in our team, and that is Bitton. The so called bring in players young and sell on for profit is now coming to a halt. We need a quality manager that the board can trust and back. But this will not happen as the board are only after balance sheet or profit margin. I am not attacking RD as he was meant to be manager of the future, but on the cheap becomes the manager?

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12 Sep 2015 15:12:04
Time for a change would love to see paul lambert in charge back to 4 4 2 hate 1 up front we have good players that don't like the system tgey look lost out there either lambert or bring back lenny

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12 Sep 2015 16:28:41
What has Paul Lambert done in football management? How long has he been out of a job?

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12 Sep 2015 16:55:52
We don't have many good players at all, we have only a handful.

Brown, Mulgrew, Boyata, GMS, Forrest, Ciftci, Armstrong, Stokes, Johansen are not fit enough to wear the Celtic jersey anymore or never have been.

As Jock Stein once said, the Celtic jersey doesn't shrink for inferior players and that's a phrase that is telling today. Going by our signings these last couple of years I'm not confident Jozo Simunovic, Blackett, Bailly, Janko, Allan and Christie are going to be great signings either but time will tell. Guys like Commons, Ambrose, Izzy, Rogic, McGregor and Griffiths are ok players but much of a muchness. Bitton is bay far our best player but we can't just rely on him, Lustig is a good player too but his injury record is shocking and can't seem to play 90 mins. Craig Gordon is now starting to worry me, he has always been a good replacement for me over Forster but never a great one, but this season he's been woeful by and large may as well admit but we have far bigger problems that need addressed urgently by the manager.

Said it before and will say it again, if Ronny doesn't start to get ruthless these players will cost him his job. I think it's almost over for Ronny personally, can't see him coming back from this. Potentially 5 points behind Aberdeen now come Tuesday and they seem to be well above the rest in the league. If they beat Hearts at Tynecastle next weekend and beat Hamilton during the week the title challenge is genuinely on if it wasn't already.

Fearful for Thursday but the league has to be the priority this season. I fear we're lacking in too many areas of the pitch and it will take years to turn us around.

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12 Sep 2015 17:13:11
Paul Lambert is a far superior manager to Ronnie in every way , he had a tough time at villa with the club left in a mess by Mon and in turmoil at boardroom level ( Sherwood is doing no better) he had excellent spells in charge of Wycombe and Norwich, if you can't see Ronnie is not cutting it and out his depth, I wonder what games your watching . Lambert knows our club inside out , is a very good man manager , has a great knowledge of the game and could turn this season around.

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12 Sep 2015 17:22:27
Armstrong has not played that many games to be classed as not fit to wear Jersey

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12 Sep 2015 15:04:45
Been a RD supporter since day 1 but that's it for me.

This team have taken so many steps back its up there with Tony Mowbray team against St Mirren.

Ajax , Christ I am worried , we will be further humiliated.

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12 Sep 2015 15:24:45
I never thought I would have said this in a million years but I miss Lennon as our manager.

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12 Sep 2015 15:36:46
Totally agree Kev. Want the guy to succeed but I'm afraid he is out of his depth. He talked about how he was going to give us one touch high tempo football but it has not materialised. One game I did see it was the game against Dundee Utd when we beat the 6-1 at Tanadice. Was a joy to watch but has never been repeated.

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12 Sep 2015 21:59:54
Obviously weren't at the game because it was at parkhead not Tannadice lol

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12 Sep 2015 14:59:35
For the first time in nearly six years, I have serious doubts about our season and title ambitions.
I know it's only September and we had a horrendous start to last season, but last season we could see VVD and Denayer would form a formidable central pairing and Johansen and Brown would control the middle.
This season we cannot keep a clean sheet and chop and change defenders on a weekly basis - and what a selection to choose from!
I know we have had some average defenders in the past, but at least Caldwell and McManus and the likes took responsibility and marshalled the defence - and don't get me started on the goalie.
Craig Gordon won the lottery last year and should have retired before he was found out as he's doing now.

Brown and Johansen have been poor all season and the rest apart from Griffiths, look so mediocre.
How can a team look so unfit and out of sorts in September?
When are we going to see this high tempo game he promised - or did I miss it last season?

It really looks like RD has lost the plot and his backroom staff are doing very little to assist him.
1-0 up and the referee desperate to even things up - step in Boyata another mistake another goal.
We then have a man advantage, but fail to stretch them, tire them and pass through them - in fact the opposite happens and we chase the game in desperation.

There is a complete lack of leadership from the dugout to the pitch and the captain needs help.
Throwing a group of young lads together and hoping for the best might work in Norway?.

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12 Sep 2015 14:58:16
Today was not all about referees. In my view the better team won the match. The bigger problem is that they actually look more determined and better organised than Celtic. I have seen thIs coming because I focus more on performance than results because results can paper over cracks. We need to re build a defence and we are only 7 games in to season.

We don't dominate our own box and we cannot stop crossed coming in.

Me brown is one of very few midfielders in world football who somehow manages to go through a game without touching a ball or tackling properly.

He gives a whole new meaning to stamping ones authority on a match. He cannot even foul right.

Celtic look one paced and tired and totally void of dynamic ideas

This is not looking too clever. Hope the big Croat can play a bit

RD has a confused squad and we are not a settled unit. His fault

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12 Sep 2015 14:56:39
First time poster n just want to say this team is gutless spineless n don't deserve to wear serveco jerseys never mind the hoops all we ask is to give 110% if that's their idea of giving then get rid of them all get 11 lads from streets n give them a run

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12 Sep 2015 14:52:36
Ronnie and the two John's need to go. I have backed RD from day one. He talks a good game, but recen results (Europe in particular) just won't do. If we really want 10 in a row we have to appoint an experienced guy who is up to speed with modern methods.

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12 Sep 2015 14:51:35
Always try to see the positive but that performance was disgusting to watch did there keeper make a save.need some fresh ideas this formation is not working when we do manage to get the ball in the box there's no 1 there wish we would go back to 4 4 2 or 352 this 3 6 1 is sh#t

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12 Sep 2015 14:42:45
Why does delia persist with johanson last season he was super this year he goes around thinking he's the best player on planet n Gordon has to be dropped for few games

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12 Sep 2015 14:41:10
Well Well

where do you start pi$$ poor does not cover it!

A RB in Lustig who is never going to see three quarters of the season and one of our better players!

Boyata? A hope he is a better RB than he is a CH!

Captain clearly struggling with fitness and carrying passengers!

GMS don't know where he has went!

Johansen most silent a have ever seen him

Forrest a winger who cannot find a pass even when the other team is down to ten men!

Ciftci a player who cannot make the right run at the right time

If Griffiths gets injured we are pretty much screwed!

And as a now clearly think RD at the time roughly Commons got his new contract last season realised he was never EVER going to get them to the fitness levels he goes on about! and got well turned over by a Malmo team that were pretty average at best!

RD knows PL ain't going to sack him as he is following his tight fisted / frugal plans!

Total shambolic this and now every team in scotland knows how to counter this 4-2-3-1 system by dropping the deep two middle players into effectively a back 6!

Never seen such a powder puff Celtic! RUBBISH!!

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12 Sep 2015 14:36:20
So many things wrong with our club at the moment GUTTED

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12 Sep 2015 17:12:11
been watching celtic for sixty odd years nearly all that time we alway had a decent centre half and at least three up front too many midfielders in this team not very good at that if that is the managers way it is not working oh for a good attacker to help griffith

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12 Sep 2015 14:36:06
I think the Deila experiment was a good idea. We have to try different approaches. I gave him time but sadly it hasn't worked out. No effective pressing game - only giving fouls away. Poorest attack I have seen for many years. He said give him a year. I subscribed to that so judge him by his own words - sorry mate - you haven't done it. No progression since Lennon.This isn't going anywhere. A new coach would have all season to get his methods across and prepare us for next years champions league. Football is a ruthless business and although Ronny is a nice guy he must be replaced now. Its not so bad losing to Aberdeen but losing in this manner is not acceptable for Celtic. Long time fan - 45 years following the hoops. YNWA.

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12 Sep 2015 14:34:12
Utter rubbish no heart what so ever players ain't great but u have to give 110 percent when wearing our beloved hoops what delia sees in johanson all time worst player on pitch again n still left on

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12 Sep 2015 14:25:59
The manager is clueless

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12 Sep 2015 14:30:37
Delia jaikit on an ever increasing shaky nail.

A humping in Amsterdam, which looks a cert and the pressure mounts.,

He us still putting Ambrose in which tells me he ain't git a f ing clue.

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12 Sep 2015 14:57:05
The guy has been dross since day 1.
How many crazy decisions has he made and people still point at the board. The mistake they made was appointing him, and his 24 hour athletes chum JC in the first place.
A good team would destroy us and that's down to RD and JC.
We've been struggling for goals for a year and more and the guy keeps signing friggin midfielders , who can't get a game and a 30 plus goals mid man has the wrbody mass index?
I fear for the rest of the season.
Enough said.

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12 Sep 2015 15:10:53
Ambrose is better than Boyata.

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12 Sep 2015 15:42:47
I'm better than Boyata.

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12 Sep 2015 14:30:22
Totally underwhelmed by the team today. After a week or so of negative comments on forums/ newspapers I was hoping for a good performance and I think a few players were due one.
We were terrible, so many slack passes, poorly organised in defence, a goalkeeper who can't command his area and absolutley no ideas going forward, badly one paced.
I'm not jumping on the sack the manager bandwagon but a few of these players haven't had the best start to the season, add in the internationals and maybe its time to drop a few? See if others will grap the opportunity and show some grit and determination?
I try not to criticise my team but recent performances have just left me feeling low, its still early in the season and I fully expect us to have enough and win the league but please to god improve the performances and make it worth watching.

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12 Sep 2015 14:28:57
Taxi for Deila, iffy ambush, boyata, mulgrew, ciftci, stokes, Collins, lawell,johansson, commons, and any others you can add. Feel free. In fact make it a coach. We are a team in free fall with no direction in management terms, going backwards faster than a getaway drivers Jaguar.

This performance is now the norm under the hapless, out of his depth Norwegian. He has not won a significant match during his time at Celtic. No desire, no plan B, no idea on who or how we should be playing.

I don't want anybody to tell me RDs hands are tied by the board. On a shoestring other managers are able to at least by players who try, players who care about the result, guys who pay for a fraction of the wage these imposters are earning at Celtic.
We are now at a crossroads in terms of our future. It should not be with this clown at the helm. Get rid now. I've never bought into this 'Emperors new clothes' attitude to Deilas tenure. There is nothing new, no great plan, no upturn in players fitness or ability. I am being proved right.

Do the honourable thing and go now. And take your clueless signings with you. Bye and thanks for absolutely sod all

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12 Sep 2015 14:54:32
Bang on Jim, anyone can see Deila is way out his depth , this crap about his hands being tied is a cover up for his managerial inadequancies, we should have more than enough in this squad to stroll the SPL

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12 Sep 2015 14:27:58
Worst celtic team since the biggins days
Terrible manager & assistants
Absolute shambles boyata feckin terrible
I am shocked how bad we really are

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12 Sep 2015 14:58:47
Totally agree no wonder city got rid he absolutely hopeless can't pass ball 10 yard as for johanson less said the better

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12 sep 2015 14:27:35
time for ronny deila to go now!

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12 Sep 2015 14:27:15
Piss poor performance against a piss poor team. No excuse but I wonder how many penalties we will concede like that this season. That's 2 so far. I'd rather lose at the start of the season than the end. The rags are going to be moist today.

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12 Sep 2015 14:25:51
Think Big Sam Allerdyce (spelling) would fancy a shot at our club, RD just hasn't got it as a No1. Hail Hail, keep the faith

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12 Sep 2015 14:38:17
Get a grip!

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12 Sep 2015 15:06:52
Sure he would.

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12 Sep 2015 15:07:00
please god no

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12 Sep 2015 14:21:40
Really don't care what any fan on here says! One of the most pathetic Celtic teams that I've ever seen! This isn't a knee jerk reaction by the way! Utter garbage that's all I can say! Woeful in defence and clueless going forward! I'm tellin u rite now,we should be seriously worried for the rest of this season! How many shots on goal have we had in this game? And how many since they went to 10 men? RD for me is clueless! Ciftci ambrose Forrest boyata brown for me aren't fit to wear the jersey! And anyone who thinks Aberdeen are going to go away are sadly mistaken! Aberdeen like Malmo have out fought us and have wanted it more! Worrying times ahead! But I'm sure u'll get the dilusional fans who will come on and here and defend that pish! Not for me!!

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12 Sep 2015 14:25:03
Absolutely spot on! I fear for thursday night

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12 Sep 2015 14:28:16
Something really stinks with this team , no drive , no confidence and looks like they don't care! Wtf is going on?

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12 Sep 2015 14:29:33
Poor performance but once again a very poor refereeing decision is at the forefront of the talking points just like the semi final last season. Anyone who thinks we won't win the league needs their head examined.

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12 Sep 2015 14:31:35
Pumping long balls up to a striker 6 inches smaller than the 2 defenders marking isn't a plan, it is ridiculous.

Gordon at fault for 2nd goal and any keeper worth their salt would have known with Rooneys body position where he was hitting the penalty, cost us against Killie too and needs dropped.

Boyars can't pass and why commit that tackle when Shinnie was going nowhere? Useless.

Rogic and GMS anonymous today.

Very worried as we now have a challenge on our hands from a team who have improved from last year while we have gotten weaker.

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12 Sep 2015 14:32:17
With effort and desire your half way there, we had none of that!
The rest won't change until the formation and or tactics are ditched, doesn't work with the players we have.
More annoying than surprising 😁

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12 Sep 2015 14:32:26
Diagonal passes the whole game, no penatration whatsoever. we only have 1 winger on the field so no chance of ever stretching the opposition, not to mention no pace in our right and left backs nor anywhere on the field! Dreading Thursday night

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12 Sep 2015 14:32:40
Yes Very poor team, and maybe RD? . But PL and the board are to blame. We need a better quality player and they don't care about the fans, no 1 is money saving/profit for them. And history nothing to them it's cash,cash and more of

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12 Sep 2015 14:38:29
Well mate, I'm starting to loose belief myself. Your totally correct about the players mentioned, they are hopeless. I've defended RD on here from the start, the next 3 games might just see him out of here if things go wrong. Ajax could be pants down for us. Brown needs to be dropped now, the defence is shockingly bad. With the exception of LG we have nothing up front. But the blame for all of the above lays directly at Dermot Desmond our absentee billionaire owner and his puppet Liewell. We need to get the protests started and we need to do it know, if we don't the team will continue to be diluted year on year. Next home game I call on all croc fans to take to the car park and give them hell. Nothing will change unless we do!

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12 Sep 2015 14:43:11
Agree with some of your post Dh88. I think some of the players see them selves as regulars under ronnie and don't need to work as much. Johanson needs a game or two on the bench give commons a pop at least he is willing to have a shot.

I've seen a lot of negatives to Brown. Yeah his form has dropped but he is the celtic captain 9/10 he's fighting for everything, people may not see what he does on the park as his role is thankless but he's what keeps us ticking. The drop on his form = drop on results. Unfortunately that should not be the way our team works. One man down another steps in.

As for our forward line I'm giving Leigh the thumbs up. He is good enough to lead the line. But needs more support.

The defence I liked the new lb, but again charlie was poor. Poor substitutions from ronnie as well.

Overall no fight at the club and a really poor performance.

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12 Sep 2015 14:48:11
DesH please buddy let's not bring up the referee eh! This has got sod all to do with a ref! And I'm not being cheeky mate but if u honestly can be confident of us winning the league after that pish then I think it's u who mite need his head examined! Look at the league last year! Aberdeen lost it because the couldn't beat us! Well that's the 1st time web played this season and that's 3 points already for them! By the time there game finishes next week they could be 8 points ahead!!! I'm sorry but this team is ruderless! No drive no ability and no clue! And that comes from the manger and his back room team! We'll get humped in Amsterdam by the way! Beat by Malmo and Aberdeen! 2 bang average teams who looked fitter and wanted it more than we did! The rate that we've went backwards since Lennon left is frightening! RD said last year judge me in a year! Well we are mate and it's just not good enough! look at Malmo and Aberdeen away and u could count on one hand the shots we've had on goal! Pish poor! It will get worse! Of that I've no doubt!!

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12 Sep 2015 15:38:27
As I said a poor performance but i'm sorry the decision not to send Considine off had a baring on the game. If you're going to criticise the players and the manager then don't just gloss over another very poor referee.

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12 Sep 2015 15:41:26
Abd also all the people calling for the managers head and not one persin has offered one credibal name to replace him. September is not the time to sack any manager who after only 7 games is second in the league.

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12 Sep 2015 16:30:47
Sory aboot the spooling everyonne.

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12 Sep 2015 14:15:26
Tyler Blacketts good eh? lol

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12 Sep 2015 13:39:30
Sorry for repeating myself - but is a cheat, a liar and a prime example of our perpetual struggle against 'The Establishment'.
The mutton molesters in the stands are refereeing the effin game.

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12 Sep 2015 14:36:57
Jim don't embarrass yourself we have nobody to blame but ourselves. We are rank rotten from back to front. Losing to a 10 man Aberdeen has sunk us to a level we haven't been at for nearly 25 years

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12 Sep 2015 13:37:06
Glad we're ahead! But for me that's the weakest I've ever seen from us going forward! If wee griffiths gets injured we're stumped! Really powder puff in attack for me! I hope that not buying a decent striker in the window doesn't come back to bite us in the arse! And I see the usual theme of slack passing continues! 3 times brown was not 10 yards from a team mate and it goes to an Aberdeen player! And don't even get me started on boyata! Oooooofffft! Rogic has got great potential but he has to realise he hasn't got all day to take a touch!

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12 Sep 2015 12:25:54
why do have to put up with that wee cretin,s anti celtic thoughts on sly sports unbiased aye right!! nothing positive to say about us as usual

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12 Sep 2015 12:58:31
It's the same every week and it's no just that wee fanny.
I don't know how much of a motivator RD is, but he could do a lot worse than let the players watch the SLY Mafia bad-mouth and criticise all things Celtic before every game.
It certainly gets me rile up ha ha.
As for the game, we are taking a gamble with an untested defensive line-up - and Brown is there to protect.
Need improvement from Gordon and Mulgrew who have struggled lately and no mistakes from Boyata.
GMS is short of confidence and form and we need really big performances from Bitton, Johansen and Griffiths.

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12 Sep 2015 12:11:32
OMG what is it with this line up???

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12 Sep 2015 12:05:25
Hi ED, Do you know if Blackett is starting at LB with Mulgrew at CB or the other way round?

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{Ed007's Note - I'm not sure mate. sorry.}

12 Sep 2015 12:25:56
Surely it will be mulgrew at cb. He played lb against Malmö and Germany and he was absolutely shocking. People like myself have been shouting for years about giving him a shot at cb I just find it strange we wait till we've spent 5m on a cb before we try it.

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12 Sep 2015 12:03:43
Well, the most successful team in Scotland is running at a loss. But its down to CL Failure and less supporters turning up, buying team merchandise etc.
The failure to properly strengthen the team to meet the challenge of CL football(instead of waiting on last minute breadcrumb loans at the end of transfer windows) resulting in a poorer quality product on the field (no disrespect to the players but its my opinion) has anything to do with supporters failing to invest accordingly. I wonder if that ever entered PL's assessment. (not to mention the nice little bonuses awarded to the board)

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12 Sep 2015 11:15:45
I have a wee cheeky fiver on simonuvic @25/1 for first goalscorer today

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