Celtic Banter Archive August 12 2016

12 Aug 2016 19:47:23
Looks like De Vires is coming not even on the forrest bench.

12 Aug 2016 20:38:11
He is in Glasgow had his medical will be announced tomorrow.

12 Aug 2016 22:24:36
What on a Saturday? Has anyone told Robbie neilson.

12 Aug 2016 22:32:09
De vries started there first game but went of after 19 minutes or something like that with am ankle knock If I remember right.

12 Aug 2016 21:11:32
What on a Saturday? Has anyone told Robbie neilson.

12 Aug 2016 18:22:15
I like most was bit underwhelmed by the goalkeeper we are after, but I am choosing to look at it as short term fix and doesn't dishearten Leo or other young keepers. Hopefully we have a star already in ranks. Maybe wishful thinking but in Brendan we trust.

12 Aug 2016 22:07:35
Vorm was our first choice goalkeeper target! Unfortunately Spurs were not willing to sell so de virus next choice! He obviously has something Rogers also tried to get him at Liverpool.

12 Aug 2016 23:15:12
Hoping this GK isn't going to be the wildcard signing as he is likely to be back up to Gordon. Would rather the wildcard being someone capable of winning us the tie.

12 Aug 2016 23:05:17
Dishearten our keepers? Surely if they can't get a game now before Gordon then they never will?

12 Aug 2016 16:32:03
Hi Ed,

Regarding Johansen what would it take for Celtic to sell. Reading Galatasaray are going to bid £2.7m, Other reports today suggestion Fulham prepared to go as high as £4m. I don't know how much truth if any is in either. If he's definitely going to leave with only one year remaining on his contract i'd be more than happy with the £2.7m if i'm honest. I can't see anyone going higher than that. That cash can go elsewhere (Keeper) or towards any bid we make for Paddy Roberts. HH.

{Ed007's Note - I have heard a wee story that Johansen might be the next to sign a new deal, or stall on making a decision about his future, as Rodgers likes his pressing energetic style and thinks it's just a question of getting his confidence back. Personally I still think he'll leave, more than likely to England if there is no interest in Germany where Hamburg and Mainz (I think it's them) are long term admirers. Playing in the Bundesliga has always been his 'dream' and he'd rather go there than England. I'd be surprised if he sees Fulham as a realistic option - the only thing going for it is it's in glitzy London and remembering his Mrs has just had a kid he'd be off his head to even consider going to Turkey.
Price wise I don't see why we shouldn't ask Fulham for £4 million, teams in that league are paying £12 million for diddies like Ross MCCormack and I'd have Johansen over him all day every day. I would have said a bid of around £2.5 -3 million would be enough to get us interested.}

12 Aug 2016 19:17:08
I do hope we keep johansen as I think he is a great player n has already shown what he can do when injury free n full of confidence. If he goes I'll trust Brendan's judgement but I'm hoping he stays.
We have a big squad, I'd like to see a few more move on, but we have enough quality 2 rotate, which I'm sure we will do if champions league football is gained. Over this season I'd like to see Ajer n Henderson get some game time, with the size of squad next season may be more realistic 2 try n nail down a starting place but this season I'd hope both get game time here and there, I say that as neither will be regulars this season, just too many players. Ed is Mackay Steven going on loan with a view to a permanent? Sorry if I've missed this. Just wonder if his confidence is shot or he maybe hasn't managed to overcome that step up. Had some good moments in a hoops jersey but like united very inconsistent. Hail hail.

12 Aug 2016 18:10:12
Thanks Ed.

Would be happy to see him sign a new contract atleast then if he hits top form again and feels he wants to move on we can atleast ask for top dollar.

At the same time would bite their hand off now for £4m.

12 Aug 2016 20:30:43
I like Johansen too as he is different to what we have and we can be a bit soft and lightweight in midfield - especially in Europe.
If he does see his future away from Celtic Park, I hope we use the cash to get a similar (or better) battler.

12 Aug 2016 15:44:55
Is this de vries rumour true? Worst signing if so the guys totally mince! #vorm.

12 Aug 2016 20:36:40
Do you watch a lot of Notts forests games sparky?

13 Aug 2016 01:15:37
Sparky, do you think you will ever have confidence in B R .
I don't know anything about this keeper, but he can't be too bad if B R wants him and in fact he could well be very good.

13 Aug 2016 04:06:23
I've seen de vries on numorus occasions n he's simply not good enough to challenge Gordon. So if u want sum1 to challenge he's not the man. He was quite rubbish at Killie! !

13 Aug 2016 04:10:58
Do u watch much notts forest games marco? I don't. But I do know de vries is not good enough. Since when did we go for 36 year old goalies? I'd rather use f as an I'm! !

12 Aug 2016 14:48:56
Whats your take on de vries Ed?, can honestly say I've not heard much about him since he played up here, better than gordon?

{Ed007's Note - I didn't know that Logan Bailly's injury was ankle ligaments so we needed a new GK in as we only have Gordon and Fasan. De Vries for me is no better than Gordon, he's another cheap option but I'm hoping he's only here to be Gordon's back up, he conceded 51 goals in 48 matches last season and only managed 12 clean sheets and at nearly 36 years of age he's not going to get any better is he?
It's ridiculous that we're scrimping and scraping on such an important position yet again.}

12 Aug 2016 15:13:43
i was optimistic that BR could have attracted a decent No 1 to replace Gordon, but this appointment has disappointed me.
Would have liked to see Fasan having a wee run, but understand it's maybe not the right time to chop and change with important games so early in the season; however, I still think Gordon is a weak link.

{Ed007's Note - There wasn't one single person that didn't agree that any signings me make had to be better than what we've already got.

12 Aug 2016 15:14:37
I posted on another comment earlier that maybe BR likes the look of Fasan and thinks we'll get another season or 2 out of CG and DDV until he's ready to step in. Do you not think that's likely?

{Ed007's Note - Well why not make Fasan his No.2? He turns 23 in January and hasn't made a first team appearance, he's not going to go out on loan because that'll leave us short depending on how long Bailly's out for.}

12 Aug 2016 15:18:33
Ed, I can see where you're coming from but conceding goals is not always solely to do with the goalkeeper. The rest of the team have to prevent goals aswell? I trust no keeper would be as good as they can be with a team who finished 16th in the leauge.

{Ed007's Note - At other club's it's the GK's job to stop the ball going in the net, it's only at Celtic it's Efe Ambrose's fault when we concede.}

12 Aug 2016 15:25:39
My take on this signing is to gee up Gordon, he has had no competition, so hopefully De Vries will spur Gordon to perform like he did in his first season with us.

{Ed007's Note - Gordon hasn't got worse, Tim.}

12 Aug 2016 15:56:57
We always seem reluctant to spend on keepers. Forster and Boruc were both on loan before we decided to stump up the cash for them and that was only about 3mil combined! Its as if we don't think we need a good keeper to win domestic games and don't feel there's value in spending big money for a few european games a season.

12 Aug 2016 16:13:48
Gordon has definitely went backwards it's clear for all to see.

{Ed007's Note - No, it's just more people are noticing, go back and look at his many blunders and mistakes since we signed him. Flapping about in the middle of nowhere at crosses, rebounding the ball straight back into the danger area, long shots that should be covered etc.}

12 Aug 2016 15:32:41
Jeez oh Ed, Is that you giving CG a half compliment mate not like you it is Friday after all =D

As a said to you yesterday I had a sneaky feeling he was after a keeper I also think he is going to install him as his No.1 mate (y)

{Ed007's Note - I think I might need a lie down.}

12 Aug 2016 15:38:33
That bad Ed, like i said ain't heard of the guy in yrs, With all the talk of vorm etc i feel a bit deflated with this one, pal he must be rotten if your hoping he's a back up to gordon lol, Is there a fee involved?

{Ed007's Note - Yes there's a fee but it's undisclosed. I've seen everything from £500k to £2 million being mentioned, I'd go with nearer the lower one for now.}

12 Aug 2016 16:45:22
Denayer and Van Dijk made Gordon look better than he was in his first season by mopping everything up that came near the box.

12 Aug 2016 16:45:48
Have to say I was happy when Gordon signed but now whether it be a cross ball or a ball to feet i'm almost waiting for disaster to strike. God only knows how the defence must feel. It's an area we need to spend decent cash on to get right.

12 Aug 2016 20:35:07
I thought Fasan was still a teenager Ed. my bad lol, don't see him getting much of a look-in in that case. He would surely have had a chance by now if BR or even RD thought he was going to be the main guy.

12 Aug 2016 14:34:17
Dorus de Vries : This guy was Forrest POTY last year . It could be that BR does not see enough competition fro CG so he's is getting in a GK that would do that.
Now I know we all wanted a really decent GK ( Vorn) to come in and steady the back 4.
At 35 it still a good age for a GK.
as a few have said so far BR has seems to know what he's doing .

HH.

12 Aug 2016 14:13:01
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12 Aug 2016 12:37:24
Evenif we just bring DeVries lo as cover for a while maybe till January then try get someone better.

12 Aug 2016 12:58:36
Thats my thought, signing experience and extra stability, can't be all that bad when he was Not Forest's player of the year and played for Swansea. Not entirely excited about it but if BR says so I am all for it.

12 Aug 2016 14:11:00
It's been reported forrest wanted him to stay and the people slagging the boy off al bet have hardly seen him nobody had seen much of jonny Gould play when he signed and he did ok and al bet nobody had seen artur, we're forgetting Brendan knows him better than any of us.

12 Aug 2016 09:12:49
De vries to have medical today.

12 Aug 2016 09:18:17
**** sake is this 1 of the 2 signings br was talking about. how's that improving the team.

12 Aug 2016 09:31:53
Bit underwhelming to be honest! I know he was forests player of the year last year but honestly thought we'd do better than this! But I trust BR so if he fancies him then I'm willing to give him a chance! I actually thought he was injured at the moment to. which is slightly strange! Considering baily is out injured to!

12 Aug 2016 09:33:06
At 35 years of age how is this guy going to be an improvement on Gordon. Would rather Fasan was given a chance.

Very impressed with the signings so far but not with this one.

12 Aug 2016 09:35:18
Seems a strange one indeed. He's 35 and even though keepers can play a bit longer than others you have to ask how long he is going to go on for. I'd have thought BR would have went for a keeper with youth on his side as well as a bit of quality. Bailly should be given a chance first, not a bad keeper and needs a run of games.

12 Aug 2016 09:53:54
Really thought we would take this opportunity to get someone in that will be here long term.

12 Aug 2016 10:05:13
Maybe 2 years left in him, likely intending of bring a young keeper through. stop gap.

12 Aug 2016 10:42:28
The age isn't the issue - how old is Kolo? The issue is that it's a bit of an underwhelming signing because we were hoping for better. Got to give BR the chance with this one though, he obviously feels he coyld be better than Gordon.

12 Aug 2016 11:07:35
Its DeVries skill with the ball at his feet that Rodgers wants, he had him at Swansea and wants to build from the back. Regardless of what you thing of Gordon, his use of the ball at his feet is murder!

12 Aug 2016 12:35:48
We should get a look at him against Inter. Wonder if BR will start him against hapoel beer sheva 2nd leg? I doubt BR has brought him in to make up the numbers.

12 Aug 2016 12:35:59
Jim Tim

The age is an issue because we will have 3 goalkeepers in their mid 30s. Kolo is different because the 4 other centre halves around him are all 25 and under and can learn from him.

12 Aug 2016 13:01:31
NiallH

So if Gigi Buffon was coming to Celtic you would say the same thing?

Obviously this keeper isn't even a comparision to Buffon but same scenario.

12 Aug 2016 13:24:23
There are plenty of top keepers that sort of age Niall, even if it's only until next summer when there's more funds available. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer somebody younger ideally, but if he's better than Gordon, it's a step in the right direction.

12 Aug 2016 13:31:48
I was going to say exactly that anderson lol, thought it would have been a bit too simple of a way to dispel such logic.

12 Aug 2016 14:10:06
Buffon is and has been one of world football's best keepers for 15 _20 years doris de vies isn't hasn't and will never be . that's the difference ce.

12 Aug 2016 15:06:29
Exactly DRB. It's the player, not their age.

12 Aug 2016 16:08:05
I did say De Vries is not a comparison on Buffon, but when people are saying age is the issue, its clearly not when he has been a top goalkeeper for 15-20 years.