Celtic Banter Archive September 11 2012

11 Sep 2012 20:38:26
How poor are Scotland caldwell and miller should call time on there international careers they are pathetic

hail hail

Marco1888

Hope Levein does the decent thing and goes ASAP to give us time to get Wee Gordon into the job. Notice all the ex Rangers men were again on the Sly panel. Well played Macedonia. IP

Hutton must be the worst defender in european football, if it wasn't for mcgregor it was end of yet another world cup qualifying campain

A agree wae ye aboot miller marco the guys past it no way he can play upfront by hisel anymer but wae caldwell a hink hes a better cb than andy webster he shouldny be anywer near that cm place as usual tho levein has tae take the blame his tactics formations n substitutions ir a fkn disgrace wid sack him n bring in wee strachan even if its just tae sort these qualifiers oot then see how he feels plus git fletcher back in the squad

gunniebhoy

Get fletcher and Rhodes up front and why are we playing 1 upfront at home anyway.

Hail hail

Marco1888

11 Sep 2012 19:28:22
Chico slimy Green tells us it's the same football club and it's a holding company being liquidated. This is impossible as football clubs ARE incorporated entities and required to be so by FIFA, UEFA and SFA.
For arguments sake, if it was the same football club why did it have to apply for the old club's SFA membership and SPL membership? These are given to FOOTBALL CLUBS not companies and Green's brand new club had neither membership.
Slimy Green's new club has no footballing history, as three years footballing is required to enter UEFA competitions and this new club doesn't have footballing history.
Liquidation law requires that a liquidated company owing creditors, which did not agree a CVA, cannot reform and trade on the existing brands, traditions, badges, logos and claim any history of the old incorporated football club. Slimy Green is clearly thumbing his nose at this legal requirement and breaking the law.
In theory, he could purchase the badges and logos as intellectual property, but cannot use them. He cannot buy any history, that concept is ridiculous. He cannot also buy any 'Goodwill' from a failed CVA liquidated company! There's ZERO goodwill only illwill.

When Slimy's New Sevco Club applied to get into the SPL, all Football Clubs in the SPL cast a vote, Kilmarnock said yes and The old Rangers Football club 1872 being managed by Duff&Phelps, by court order, cast their vote to allow the new club in.....so there were and currently are two separate clubs, and the old club being liquidated had the history and titles anyone saying anything else is saying black is white!! Utterly ridiculous and laughable.

11 Sep 2012 18:23:24
Got to laugh at all yous Timmies. You call us a new club, constantly telling us we are no longers Rangers yet you react to Charles Green's statement in a manner that says otherwise. If we are a new club why do you react to these things the same you would have if it were the "oldco"?

Let's face it, you see us as the same club, your hatred and obsession only indicates it.

TTG {Ed007's Note - TTG, CG has nothing to to with the old club, there is no reason for him to get involved. Are D&P or BDO represented at the hearing? They should have more of an involvement than CG does.}

Well said. .H.

TTG..he should have the interest of every fan who bought a season ticket based on his speel about rangers then, now etc and who firmly believe the next 'SPL' title they win will be 55 !! But he's shrugged it off and doesn't care OR is he scared he can't deliver on his big talk & this is a delay tactic ?

It was 'SPL' titles Rangers Football Club won during the EBT years wasn't it ??

He's right about one thing, the SPL have no juristriction over 'The Rangers Football Club', they are, by Charles Green's own admission, 2 different clubs. Mrs E

Green's mendacity knows no bounds, a glib liar, sounds familiar? Seems anyone associated with oldco and now Newco are cut from the same cloth.
The guy's a proven liar, he lies, lying is what he does.

Slimy Green may be some things but he's not too stupid.
How can he attempt to defend the indefensible?

Why would we not hate an institution so built on hatred it wouldn't have signed pele ? Everybody knows what your club stood for. The zombie looks like it will be uglier still. How's the bouncy these days ?

The titles being discussed are those SPL titles awarded by the SPL with the SPL trophy and celebrated with the SPL flag. The titles old rangers claimed to have won include SPL titles. Did somebody mention SPL ? Oh, and nobody does hating quite like rangers, now do they ?

11 Sep 2012 17:07:46
whit ah day ed wee veras bin it me fur agis sayin look it this place pat its a middin!
thats cos weer in a midden vera find any luckies yet?
moanin auld cow" kin we no get sumdy in tae clean thaem curtains n blinds?
so ah looks up the jaundiced pages ( naw no the ranjurs news)
n came acrose "blind cleenurs fur hire,ex joab no happy no pay!
so ah foned thum up well thats peturs n lee,ray charles n stevie wundur jist fell doon the stairs well the uthur wan went oot the windae irinun the curtains fkn cowboays ed am tellin ye a need a pint a cremola foam is thery say doon the "heid"
any takurs
!its no that it took thum 6 fkn hoors tae find ma flat"
mind you the whole close goat dun windae wise cos a telt thum a hid a big extenshun which is pertly true,
here a herd wee chico wiz sellin titles aff the day doon it the cross ( coodnae huv picked a wurser place tae sell um eh?)he wiz shoutin goat tae go the day afore the spl gets thum wtfks that aw aboot edo?
hows yur scab?
ur iz she stul makin the tea?
tell ur ah sade hi kisses oan the bottum
that rerminds me that wee tommy sheriduns owes me a fivur {Ed007's Note - I met Sheridan at an CFC v Rangers Legends match a few weeks ago, he was the colour of a chocolate brown leather suite and as shiny as the veneer on they old fashioned wardrobes with a key that your granny had. I asked if he had been on holiday, he was not impressed so I told him he wasn't allowed to get photographed with me.}

Hey you howd you no ma granny hid a key that wiz tae keep that wee midden timbo awaey fae her shereen nanjiany! {Ed007's Note - Tim is in America Pat, I think he is on trial with the WWE.}

Aye well he didnae dae it he wiz we me that nite honist yur wurship

Here ed whit diz wwe staun fur wee willy ensyclupedyia(ffs howd they make these wurds so hard?) {Ed007's Note - If you have that on your wee willy I would suggest a trip to your GP, is that like ensyclumidyia?}

11 Sep 2012 08:59:19
I am confused re:- Newco, Sevco, 'The' Rangers and Rangers that went into Admin....Liquidation?
If the new club has no case to answer as it was only formed in 2012 and Green says 'If the SPL want them to answer charges as an SPL club 'they' shouldn't have relegated them to Div3' ...Why are there 2 separate entities and the new one carries the badge, name and all the baggage....sorry history of the defunct club?
Is it because liquidation is still pending?...if so; Why?
and how come is there an overlap of identity?
I hate to appear daft, but can anyone put me right?

Jungle Jim

It's simple. Chico has a football club that he needs to sell to The Rangers (Sevco)supporters.
He will spout any old shampoo that suits him in order to convince the Sevco fans that they are actually Rangers fc (1872) the club they have supported for over 100 years (remember he wants their cash).
If anyone wants to believe his crap then that's up to them

Green claims he bought the RFC. The stadium, training ground, car park, players and trophies! And he apparently got all that for £5.5million!

Kinda raises an argument, can you buy history? Could Man City buy Third Lanarks and claim to have won the league in Scotland and England? No of course not .....History dies with the club.

The OldCo will be liquidated. If the Inquiry see's fit the titles they won from 2000-2011 will be strippped from the OldCo. I personally don't want to receive those titles, let the history books read RFC cheated and we came second!

The next thing should be....why are Sevco/NewCo/The Rangers (whatever) allowed to wear the OldCo tops or display the same badge? If a plumber goes under he cant just add "The" to his company name and restart!

Also we have the assets being bought for £5.5m, did D&P not value them at £120m? Why were they not put on the open market?

The whole thing stinks and if anyone thinks this is paranoia, please say!

DazzaBhoy

Well said DazzaBhoy, also the governing bodies or liquidators should come out and say just what the situation is about logos, titles etc. and stop all this prattle from Charles Green once and for all. I think he is playing up to the Rangers fans hoping for more investment though why they do listen to him i'll never understand as he has come out and says he hasn't and will never listen to them. They should make sure the money they invest is not going into his pocket but to their club
Bobbyinv

CG should be worried if "the rangers" are a continuation of rangers as he claims, then they are responsible for for paying back prize moneys for stripped titles and compensation to other teams for lost income. This could run to over £100 million pounds. By not attending the SPL hearing it seams his is not willing to take that chance and is distancing himself from his previous claims. But of course he wont want to go to far or else he will be unable to use previous trademarked logos or refer to the team as rangers or the "loyal" might twig they're being taken for a ride.

11 Sep 2012 08:09:00
charlie boy contact confused.com ... now. spl cant touch us as we are newco ? rangers then,now,forever, make you mind up...col

I think the point CG is making is that Rangers Football Club is now owned by a new company and not the previous company - something that seems to be confusing everyone!

Total nonsense. He had to call the new business the rangers because he can't legally use rangers. The football club ceased to be a seperate entity the day it was incorporated. It was a business which ultimately failed and its assets were bought by a new business. Professional football clubs are not actually clubs. They have shareholders not members. Are you a member of the rangers fc ? No you are a customer.
The business may have promotional programmes wich people can join but the idea that there is a seperate entity which floats in the ether above ibrox and is immune to all earthly considerations is just daft. All will become clear in the fullness of time just like Craig whyte and cva and the rest of it did.

11 Sep 2012 00:51:22
Read the interview by ,charles green, and i
Really hope the sfa grow some,is a,
And. Come down, hard on, them,.,.kbarry

Of course you do.......

TTG

You appear to be coming a touch obsessed with the celtic rumours/banter page ttg