Celtic Banter Archive May 11 2014

11 May 2014 21:40:14
Well after all is said and done it now appears that winning the league cup makes you the manager of the year? Shows the title as the sham it is why not announce it after season finishes so you don't make a fool of yourselves? Anyway think it could be a busy revolving door this summer looking forward to the comings and goings. I think we need the spine of the team sorted again and maybe a bit of pace added to the team. we shall see

Bigp we know EXACTLY why Neil never won it
Tambhoy

{Ed007's Note - I don't, I think I do but why not enlighten us all Tam....}

In fairness I would have voted for McInnes. If NL didn't win it last season he certainly wasn't going to this season.

Neil Lennon never won it because we won the league as expected, but failed to get to a domestic final. We never even made the QF's of either domestic cup competition!

Ed he could'nt win it last year I wonder why hhhhmmm, if you and anyone else are pretending not to know why your kidding yourselve's on
Tambhoy

11 May 2014 17:01:40
Cannot believe there are still fans moaning on here ffs, we won the league today with a good performance all season scored over 100 goals and got 99 points with only one defeat . Get a grip guys clearly there have been a few mistakes but it's been fast attacking free flowing football I'm looking forward to next season, I would love samaras to stay but clearly it's not going to happen thanks for the memories big guy!

Celtic always!

I with you Chalky, the moaners are boring me now.

I wouldn't say there's too many on here but some fans seem to be greetin for the sake of it now. I wish they'd stick their dummy back in.

Exactly Mrs E I been on here time and again defending our team and manager.All you get is moans and groans we NEVER see a post sayin how well we played or how someone played great. You know who you are so get postin when we done well and not just post negative stuff.I wonder when they at the game when we score do they even cheer, or just moan about the fact we only scored 5 instead of 6 lol.

My opinion is we have had a good season with some great performances but! Yes but! I don't think the team has progressed since we sold wanyama and hooper. Big big players to loose so I would say we have done ok but I think our season should have been much better.
Defo no crys of lennon to go from me. let's just hope we see couple of qaulity proven players qith experience and at least have a better crack at the champs league

League was ALWAYS going to be won. What about domestic cup record over past 4 years? Or the amount of money basically written off signing dud signings? Get a grip

I thought it was too good to be true, celtic fans happy and not moaning . However it just couldn't last and we get back to the same old rubbish that the league was always won . The league was won because Celtic won the points necessary in the league. I can't denial that Celtic were not playing inferior teams but they still had to go out and win the games and the points, mostly with style and panache .

11 May 2014 21:17:06
DN30 you are one of the biggest culprits on here for whinging, do you honestly think that every signing we make should be a success? The 2 to 3 million pound level we're dealing at with transfers is always going to be a bit of a gamble, and the only dud we've signed is definitely Boerigter and maybe Balde, I believe Boerigter was signed to appease the fans looking for a new face (preferably with a foreign name) Our board have done a tremendous job in balancing the books, so come ahead anybody that disagree's, and please don't come out with the usual we didnae win the treble p***. What we have done is qualified for Europe's premier competition for the last couple of seasons so until we aren't capable of doing that anymore cut out the whinging

{Ed007's Note - You're havering if you think Boerrigter and Balde are the only duds NL has signed, what about Cha Du-Ri, Murphy, Juarez, Ljungberg, Bangura, El Kaddouiri, Lassad, Rogic, Biton and Pukki as examples?
And if qualifying for the CL is the height of your ambitions then you deserve to be treated like a mug by the club.}

11 May 2014 23:44:57
I'm talking about this season's signings ed, and to call Biton and Pukki duds is a bit premature, and as for anyone who thinks that in this day and age of cash laden leagues over Europe we can be anything more than a group stage team is a fantasist

{Ed007's Note - So it's premature to label Biton and Pukki duds but not Boerrigter and Balde, how did you come to that conclusion, because it suits you? We reached the last 16 of the CL last year, I'm pretty sure we didn't imagine that and to expect European football after Christmas is not expecting too much or fantasy, clubs with a lot less money than us do it regularly but you're obviously happy to support a two-bob bit small club. Or is it only this year's CL campaign we can mention like this year's signings, the club has went backwards this year with everything including attendances, income, trophies, quality of players and football etc etc, tell me how the club or the team have progressed this season? All these great signings and we are a trophy down on last season, we were embarrassed in the CL and are fighting Hibs over signing an idiot like Griffiths and we were his second choice, is that progress?
As I said, fans like you deserve to be 5hat on and treated like mugs but don't try and drag other supporters down to your mediocre level. A lot of us still want to feel a pride in our club and see it progressing.}

@stevie so you think its acceptable to p*ss an already fragile income up against wall on a succession of duds? Yes, I am a whinger! Cause I can see wood from trees! We are pathetic!

DN we play in Scotland. Yes, there's been duds - you tell us the alternative? It's it we can offer Champions League football and winning stuff? Is that what guys like Wanyama and Hooper left?

See when rangers died, Celtic fans will be remembered for having a low attendance and good luck trying to pass the argument off as Celtic were treating the fans like mugs or the board blah blah etc.

Yes, the team have been underachieving domestically and the Cups have been a huge letdown, nobody is denying that. But some of the moaning has went way too far and from the outside looking in - just looks like its grew from plain old boredom.

I away to tweet/email Celtic right now (publicly) to tell them I'm no renewing my season ticket, that'll tell them and they'll let me pick the team for the next game. Get a grip

{Ed007's Note - Maybe if you try looking at from the inside looking out, you might understand it better. I hardly think talking about humiliating domestic cup exits and record equal European defeats is grew from boredom and nobody has mentioned Sevco or Rangers - except you.
No wonder they think we're obsessed with them when we can't talk about what's wrong at CFC without someone needing to bring them into the argument.
You're admitting the team has underachieved domestically and let us down in the cups but according to to you if we talk about it we are moaning or we miss Rangers, sounds awfully like being took like a mug to me.}

Ed, appreciate your opinion but please don't assume what I understand.

I see one common denominator here and all this greetin about the Board etc happened at the same time as someone vanishing. Last season we won the League, Scottish Cup and were in the last 16 of the Champions League yet it was a Celtic bashing session because we didn't win the League Cup? No for me and if In your eyes that makes a mug, then so be it. One mans opinion.

We never qualified for the Champions League the 3 seasons before and I don't know where all this about fans just having an acceptance is coming from - I do not know any Celtic fan who isn't disappointed with a Celtic defeat. In Europe we are the underdog whether we like it or not and its nothing to do with this 'small club mentality' it's realistic.

I don't manage the purse strings at Celtic but agree would like to see players brought in this window who will improve the team not just add to the numbers. I also do not think its as easy as Celtic are a big Club and can offer medals and Europe - it's blatantly obvious not as simple as that.

Lack of competition is a factor and any mug can see that.

{Ed007's Note - I'm not assuming anything. It's abundantly clear you don't understand what's going on at the club and how sections of the support really feel, after all it's only one woman's opinion that we miss Rangers. How can 3 different clubs win the 3 domestic trophies and there be no domestic competition, if there was no competition we would win everything no problem.
CFC's failings this year have nothing to do with Rangers' demise, it was Morton and Aberdeen that put us out of the cups yet somehow all the mug customers need to talk about Rangers and Sevco, while suporters talk about Celtic.
Do you ever manage to talk about CFC without mentioning Rangers/Sevco? This thread was about Celtic and you are THE only person that needed to mention them, as I said, no wonder they think we're obsessed.}

DN30 - League was ALWAYS going to to won. Why given the level of competition?

So what I'm the only one out of 5/6 posters on this thread to mention lack of competition and all this starting when Rangers died?

Okay what is it I clearly do not understand, what is it I'm so thick about and others are clever about?

What is it I'm supposed to do, only support Celtic when it suits me? Should I go and watch Celtic nation or maybe get a Liverpool season ticket or better, attach myself to some Dutch mob? You tell me, what?

I like Liverpool but I am zero affection for any other team other than Celtic. I'm not into multiple Club supporting depending what suits so you tell me?

Celtic were presented with the League trophy yesterday and I loved it, always will.

Seems bit strange to me guys you moaning there no progression. Wilson Vic and hooper sold. Can any team progress when argueably the 3 best players sold, highly unlikely. It takes time thank goodness we have time. fergie signed duds morinhno has signed duds what makes us an different and they payin topdollar. Guys take messi iniesta and xavi out o barca they not the same team maybe a different level but principle the same. @ DN30 still the same old crap (sack lennon) never any reasonin behind it or rational thought just repetitive rubbish.

@DN30 has Lennon not made money in signings I pretty sure he in profit so how can money be wasted.

@rayman explain how he is in profit? I think you will find it is a negative

Out of NL's 3 yrs worth of signings Cha, Ledley, Murphy, Juarez, Hooper, Majstorovic, Kapo, Ljungberg, Wilson, Wanyama, Bangura, El Kaddouri, Blackman, Ibrahim, Brozek, Miku, Kamenar, Lassad, Gershon, Noring + Oberschmidt have all came in then left the club - the only one's leaving lasting impressions or good memories were Ledley, Hooper + Wanyama!

He's also spent over £30m in his 3 yrs at the club, because we're in the black doesn't make it acceptable to have wasted a large proportion of those funds provided.

Nobody is saying we think its fantastic what the achievements have been but yesterday we got the League trophy and it was a great day but some still wants to moan.

HB, Real Madrid have spent £510 million in the last 5 years on transfers and won the League once and Copa del Rey twice, nothing is guaranteed.

@mrs e nobody is saying we are real madrid. We don't have the same financial strength as them.

What my major gripe is, times are hard enough as it is with the state of the economy. Its sickening that after digging deep to buy season tickets, football tops, etc money is being squandered on poor signings and poor management. Do you think this is acceptable? Cause I dont.

Boerighter, balde, pukki, bangura, juarez best part of say £13m and that's not including wages. Apart from pukki realistically boerighter and balde will be given free transfers. Approx £10.7m down the drain. but its alright, good old lenny got into last 16.

Thats all you hear about "last 16" last season. One good season all round, what about the other seasons? What about this season? We were shocking on all accounts. Il go as far to say mowbray would of achieved the same trophies as lennon, yet if he was in charge the pro lennon crew would be calling for his head. A clear case of emotional attachment to lennon clouding judgement.

Real Madrid fans have the same income as our fans and they've watched their team spend millions upon millions.

Neil Lennon did qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League though on his first outing, you cannot rewrite that just because you regard this as a crap season. It doesn't cancel it out, it still happened.

I'm not pro or anti Lennon, I didn't know it was a choice and I had to toe this party line DN. I just find the Celtic bashing a bit boring now, that's all and offers nothing constructive.

You get some who seem to spend their day waiting on a Celtic rumours item just do they can start bashing all over again, it's weird to me. I could go on and on but I don't want to bore everyone.

@mrs e if you were clued up on football matters, you would know real madrid have a far higher income than celtic. Fairly obvious really

Its weird you say that, was thinking about the same thing regards certain posters on this

When your ready to apologise feel free DN. I don't hold grudges, i've misread posts myself in the past.

19.) Real Madrid fans have the same income as our fans and they've watched their team spend millions upon millions.

Nope, not misread this mrs e

But in those 5 yrs they've had changes made - Juande Ramos, Manuel Pellegrini, Jose Mourinho and now Carlo Ancelotti. Sections of our support are on here conspiring that there's some kind of hidden political agenda as to why NL wasn't voted MOYT in Scotland, because quite simply he's failed to achieve several personal targets he chose to make public. And btw - in the last 5 yrs Real have won La Liga, 2x Copa del Rey, 2x Spanish Super Cup and a CL final still to be played.

DN, such a joy - the posters bore you and you've decided in your wisdom if I was 'clued up on football matters'

You have classed this as football banter and an argument based soley on a difference of opinion.

As you say, it's fairly obvious Real Madrid have a far higher income even the most dense football fan like myself would know that so do you not think that's not really my point?

I'm not going in for that about political reasons HB, I've not heard that.

The Super Cup is like the Charity Shield, I never counted that really. It doesn't matter, my point was you can spend and spend and still not get success. They have spent close to a billion since they last won the Champions League. Chopping and changing Managers hasn't made much difference - they are by far the richest Club in the world, can attract any player or Manager and still not won the CL in 12 years.

11 May 2014 15:44:57
So Sammy doesn't want to leave. shock horror!
Now I kno the big man is inconsistent but when he plays. he plays, and to replace him at that level is more than we would spend. I understand the club want him on reduced terms but put yourself in his shoes for a minute, would you accept a 25% paydrop (don't know exact figures-just an example) just because you love the firm you work for? Doubt it! Now we could reinvest his with a bit thrown on top in a top drawer player. But will we really? Again doubt it!
The point i'm making, is unlike some of the players we've had over the years who profess to love the club but always court offers from the (self- proclaimed best league in the world) BPL .Sammy does genuinely seem to love the club and knows what it takes to play for us, he never causes trouble or beings the club into disrepute. The epitome of a true professional. then look at a few others who currently wear the hoops? sometimes better the devil you know. and I for one will miss the big Greek Shagger!

HH

The big guy does seem to hold the club in some affection and has never caused a minutes problem off the field, the problem is he has everything in his locker but only seems to be able to motivate himself to produce the goods 4-5 times a season which just isn't good enough,

Ma opinion it's time for him 2 move on. i'm no his biggest fan never was never will be but can't ake away how good a servant he's been and wish him aw the luck in the future

I'm glad he's spoken out that he wants to stay and not his decision. At least it explains why Neil Lennon has been including him in the team since January.

Was quite an emotional day and not often I cry at the football, but I did today. Rest in peace wee Oscar, life is terribly cruel at times. Such a brave wee guy x

After a great day's celebration of yet another title win . I hope we are not going to mar the occasion with a row over whether Sammi was offered another contract or not .

@4) It doesn't have to be a row. It's just a statement of fact Chris. I think Sammy is entitled to make it clear t the fans that it wasn't his decision because many fans seem to think it was him who played hardball. I think we'd all do the same.

Hail Hail

All I know, is that I'll miss him. Him and broonie are my two favorite players and have been for a long time. I hope he signs for a great team. What I do know is that we won't replace him at all and with the departure of borrigter we are two wingers down.

@6) Looks that way.
We lost our best players at a crucial stage last season and replaced them with tat in preparation for the Champions League. I expect us to do the same this time around and the ns will feel duped again when the new season starts. After all, it seems to be the Celtic way of doing things.

Hail Hail