Celtic Banter Archive April 11 2015

 

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11 Apr 2015 19:43:16
ED007 I know you are not a big fan of Italian football but have you heard about little CARPI (yes right spelling not Capri the resort) who are leading Serie B and look set to be promoted but all the major Serie A team presidents are trying to find any loophole to stop them coming up the reason? they are a very small club with an even smaller ground capacity only 3,000 and an even smaller fan base so will not bring any big wealth into serie A, sadly meritocrasy is missing even in Italy, I hope they go up and stay up, let's all adopt wee CARPI as our italian team.

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{Ed007's Note - Sorry it took so long to get back to you, Tim, I was hoping Ed008 was around as he would know a lot more about it all, you posting this is the first I've heard of it.}

12 Apr 2015 17:03:57
A friend of mine sent me this message with the details about Carpi being denied promotion to Serie A. I fully expect them to solve the issue though and play in Serie A next season.
They've achieved 4 promotions in 5 seasons starting from the Semi-Pro Leagues amazing achievement.

"They may be denied promotion due to the fact that there ground can only hold up to 4500 people. As far as I know to be eligible to play in Serie A your ground must be able to hold around 15000.

That being said when Carpi do achieve promotion they will more than likely use Modena's stadium, which has the required capacity. However if the league were really dead set against Carpi being in the top flight they could declare Modena's ground not fit for the top flight and essentially leave Carpi homeless.

However that would be a pretty drastic measure considering Carpi would have reached Serie A on sporting merit rather than being back by some Billionaire."

Modena are asking for a lot of money to allow Carpi to use their stadium for next season if they are to be promoted.

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{Ed007's Note - Cheers mate. (yes)

12 Apr 2015 18:00:38
ED007 and ED008 thanks for the update, as to ground sharing that is what I heard also that the bigger teams would object that a) their own ground was not suitable or safe and b) they would object to them sharing another bigger ground. Story in Italy is it is all about money as wee Carpi will not generate any extra income for Seria A clubs and they will lose a bigger club to Serie B thus televsion money might be affected.But they deserve it on merit and what a fairytale it would be, surely the tv people can see the bigger picture here and back Carpi as I think the fans will get behind the small team and tv audiences may increase

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11 Apr 2015 18:57:16
Nice to see Gary Hooper on the scoresheet still scoring important goals for his team.

Worth a note that's the 7th time since January Bolton have lost a game in injury time, could be a sign that Lennon's players fitness and stamina or their mental sharpness aren't up to scratch.

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11 Apr 2015 19:15:01
A H , having not watched many of these matches it could be said maybe he is unlucky

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11 Apr 2015 23:35:33
Chris02 or a $hit manager

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12 Apr 2015 00:39:22
You could be right DN30, however not many of the $hit managers you refer to has won three SPL's in a row .
Not that I give a $hit , he is no longer with us , after having ten/ eleven years of giving us good service .

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12 Apr 2015 13:54:05
Crucially a 3 in a row that was a certainty, due to a weakened league with no competition. Even John Barnes or Lou Macari would of got 3 in a row. Lennons "super mastermind" managerial skills were exposed in no uncertain terms, with his failings in domestic cups.

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12 Apr 2015 14:12:36
DN33 . What evidence is there to support your ludricous statement . To the best of my knowledge the strongest eleven teams along with Celtic, made up the SPL.
Maybe you feel the cheating conning Rangers who were finally found out during the first of N L three in a row should have been kept in the SPL even though they were dead.

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12 Apr 2015 15:24:28
DN30, you can't dismiss beating Barcelona, qualifying for the last sixteen of the Champions league, and then qualifying for the Champions league the following season.
Incidentally Ronny hasn't done this, here or at his former club.

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12 Apr 2015 16:34:39
@DN u never miss an opportunity. AH u prob on a fishing trip as usual u must need new waders by now lol. But to humour u they now 17th in he league way clear of any relegation battle so not bad since he took over at the bottom of the league. If they win next wk with a last min goal does that mean they fitter than last wk. Incidently DN we only 5 points clear in your "weakened no competition" league.I could a swore lennon won a league from 14 points behind but suppose that doesn't count. If RD fails to win the league (unlikely but not impossible) would that be our worst ever season and would you be happy with that? Cud he survive such an embarrassment which would outweigh any 1 off cup shock.

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12 Apr 2015 17:52:10
@chris02 you probably think they should of been kept in league, with you being a season ticket holder at ibrokes.

@gerryc of course he hasn't done last 16 at stromgodset. When have u ever seen Stromgodset in CL? What he did do with virtually no investment, was take a club who were on their ar$e to league title (first in their history) and league cup success.

@rayman I couldn't care less how many points season is won by. As long as it is won. Answer to your question, any manager who fails to win league in its current climate for me its tally-ho! Do not pass go! Do not collect £200. And yes same domestic cup standards apply to Deila as Lennon, but won't be an issue as Deila is an actual manager

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12 Apr 2015 18:07:33
@DN as usual all u do is focus on the negatives of lennons tenure. Not once have u given him credit for 3 in a row, or CL qualification and last 16.Why is it ok to criticise for errors but not ok to praise the good decisions/wins.

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12 Apr 2015 18:35:09
DN30 what is the above all about?
Have you taken your medicine?

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12 Apr 2015 19:16:55
DN30, what you say about Stromgodset, is exactly what Lennon did here. We were on OUR arse when he took over, and led us to league titles and progress in the Champions league.
The reason you can't ignore the Champions league, is whether we like it or not, it brings in a lot of money to the club, you can't make that sort of money just beating domestic opposition.
The club is in a healthy state financially, which is in no small measure down to Lennon getting us into the Champions league. Had we not, we would have no doubt had to sell our best talent, and Ronny wouldn't be on the brink of a treble.

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12 Apr 2015 19:33:47
@rayman I think you will find I was full of praise for reaching last 16. 1 good euro campaign out of 4, he has really excelled 😴😴. let's not forget key points here if we are refering to europe- 1st season- never qualified even for europa league. 2nd season- in by default sion fiasco. 3rd season- ONLY GOOD SEASON LAST 16. Season 4- even after all that £ transfer kitty spent, an absolute embarressment.

These facts are always overlooked cause its Lennon. He is being found out at Bolton but end of the day its not his fault. Some people are good coaches but not managers- Joe Jordan, Liam Brady to name a few. Neil Lennon is the same.

@Chris02 I thought what I said was straight forward. Its clearly evident you are a "blue nose" and on deployment as a wooden spoon trying to stir a very large pot. Of course you wanted your new team to replace old tennants and take their SPL place

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13 Apr 2015 01:05:59
DN30, Correct me if I am wrong but I thought you were the person , that brought up the red herring about the weakened league .
I just feel that the the twelve teams in the SPL this year are in it on merit .

So you are trying to deflect where your true allegiances rest .

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13 Apr 2015 13:50:12
@DN again u fail to recognise his achevements and only focus on your agenda.1st season he never had much of a chance with the mess the club was in. (an excuse u use for RD this season to blame lennon)." 2nd season got to group stages and got us crediable results in Europe again instead of getin humped.3 rd season last 16 fantastic achievement which if u look at our recent history is only likely to be acheived 1 in every 5/6 years if we lucky. Last season got to CL, yes not great results BUT our goal is to get there not win it. Only recently (Lennons tenure) on here many including yourself were talking about how we wish the board would just spend that wee bit more to get to last 8 of CL.Now we lookin at having to qualify thro 3 stages due to cooefficient, but if we had achieved what lennon done and got us there last 2 seasons and improved cooefficient we may not have needed any qualification or defo less to go thro. Not to mention the money it brings in which enables the board to go and spend and keep season ticket prices reasonable. if we don't get thro again this year regardin pricing.

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13 Apr 2015 15:40:02
We will not attain our goals with someone like Dn carping away with negatives about somebody or something about Celtic . The 30 pieces of silver man seems to want to deflect from what should be a good feeling around the club and fans and instead have doom and gloom . We deserve better is what DN 30 seems to think , that's what destroyed the other lot .

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11 Apr 2015 18:22:03
Well my horses are still running, should have known not to trust my money on a WOMAN lol thankfully my football bet came up so not a total loss betting wise and Mrs T got a place with her horse.

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11 Apr 2015 18:42:46
Timalloy I backed the winner many clouds 25/1 £5 e.w and baltazer king £5 e.w 12/1. Only reason I backed winner was in hope it got placed after that tip for bookie doing 6 places! Cheers mate! Your tip is funding tonights beers lol

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11 Apr 2015 15:09:35
My daughter just phoned me to tell me Mr keevins thinks Aberdeen could go on and win the league following celtics draw today.Celtic have go to aberdeen and they won't fancy that,sad old man.killy.

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11 Apr 2015 17:14:07
Same games played we're eight points clear. Can't rule them out just yet(?) and it'll be a contest no doubt but the table doesn't lie and they should be more worried than us. I had us down for a draw today but it's just a blip. They've had more blips than us. And consistency wins leagues.

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11 Apr 2015 14:19:05
Of all the 'Honest Mistake Merchants' he is by far the worst.
It ranges from blatant cheating to ignoring wee fouls here and there and giving every 50-50 decision against Celtic and it's every game he does.
I know it's not helping, but no wonder the support are 'signing his praises'. How Scott Brown got booked there is a travesty - and there's still time for more of his nonsense.

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{Ed007's Note - 'There's contact but it's not a penalty.' - Andy 'Uncle Tom' Walker.

11 Apr 2015 14:33:14
Thought it was a clear penalty! How brown gets booked I'll never know! Been a terrible game but! We've really struggled again today! Our lack of a top class forward is really showing! I know wee griffiths has scored but I don't mean just for goals! Our forwards are just to easy to mark! A foraward with sum pace and guile is what we need! And obviously has to be able to bang the goals in! Just feel we're lacking up front!

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{Ed007's Note - One of my mates I'm sitting with has it as a draw on his line, he says he knew it would be a close game to keep the interest up for next week's semi-final.
That's one of the poorest performances of the season, I don't think I would give any player more than a 6/10.}

11 Apr 2015 17:16:59
, just couldn't be so incompetent, he just has to be biased against us. Not the worse thing to happen the week before the semi Final. Deila should get it easier to pump his players into the right frame of mind , than if we had pumped them by three or four goals .

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11 Apr 2015 13:55:15
Disappointing first half and although we are dominating possession - as we always do - we are not creating chances and that is not like us.
We have played against packed defensive teams all season and yet we always try to force or pass through the middle and it rarely works, especially without pace.

With Ambrose instead of Mathews you not only miss out on an attacking option, but you run the risk of more mistakes. Bitton is cumbersome and laboured in possession and Armstrong is again very quiet and sometimes I think when we play five in the middle it becomes overplayed and they get in each others way.

We have enough about us to win but may need to tweak things to spark a bit of invention or class.
It's been a long time since the title race was not a formality in April, so we need to up the anti.

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11 Apr 2015 14:40:56
Haven't looked especially sharp since the international break, really. As much as I like the harrying midfield, we create very few chances for the forward(s). Today was just dull.

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11 Apr 2015 15:39:13
I agree with that, I don't know if it's complacency or tiredness, but it could not have come at a worse time.
We have a big enough squad to do this, but I feel the manger is not getting the team selection spot on for certain games.

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11 Apr 2015 17:27:56
Jesus , we drop a point when we are eight points clear with only seven games left .
I think the conditions didn't suit poor pitch and strong wind . No doubt some of our players didn't play to their best but was it Deila picking the wrong players or was it the players performing below form .
I wouldn't start panicking yet.

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11 Apr 2015 13:53:52
Celtic could really do with the pace and inventiveness of forrest at the moment.

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11 Apr 2015 17:34:51
GMS fiddled a bit on the ball and lost it, if Forrest had done the same there would have calls on here for him to have been punted in the close season .

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12 Apr 2015 07:37:55
I think the criticism of Forrest on here lately is more of his contribution long term. He's played a few good games lately. But that's it this season really. GMS has done more for us this season and only arrived in Jan. Now I have defended Forrest on here a wee bit over the seasons as I think he can be a very dangerous asset, but his overall contributions are far from great. As we got GMS on a precontract I was delighted as I thought, no, knew he was a much better all round player. Having seen him in the hoops that view was only reinforced. Has the arrival of GMS improved Forrest? I'm sure it has - that's the main benefit of a competetive squad. But if I was to pick an XI it would have GMS in over Forrest. Think too much may have been read into RD wanting to build a team around Forrest (and a few others); I mean, there was no mention of Scott Brown in that quote, and if RD doesn't see fit to build a team around Broonie then he should walk now! Watched the re-run just now and to be honest nobody stood out, not even reliable players like Brown, or this seasons star performers Johansen, Bitton or Denayer. We can certainly play better than that for the semi, and I reckon we will so hakuna matata.

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12 Apr 2015 14:20:31
Maybe Deila was speaking more in the long term whether than the immediate future . With Brown now 30 years old Deila may think that he may only be available as a player in the medium time.
But Deila probably doesn't anyway , he only sees the players most days in training as well as match days.

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11 Apr 2015 13:47:27
Is this our new top?

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11 Apr 2015 13:56:13
I've not seen any designs yet mate so can't say for sure if this is correct.looks not too bad IMO,better than the current one.

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{Ed007's Note - It looks the most likely of all the so called leaked pics I thought JB, it's getting back to a more traditional look as well although I always prefer a top with a collar, when your neck's the same width as your head it looks a bit strange without a collar! :=D

11 Apr 2015 16:06:00
If it had a v-neck then I think it looks like the one from around 1983-ish.Would love them to do the 2 pinstripes away kits from that era for our new away kits.Green with white pinstripes and white with green pinstripes.

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{Ed007's Note - The white with green pinstripes one was lovely, here's a random pic of the other one. :=D

11 Apr 2015 16:40:51
Is that your missus ed?lol. Yeah,that's the tops.Simple but class.

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{Ed007's Note - I wish mate!}

11 Apr 2015 17:38:42
Ed's dream bird looks well in the pinstripes but she would look well in the hooped one as well, nothing better still

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11 Apr 2015 18:18:48
Cheers ED007 for keeping us all "abreast" of the new strips lol

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{Ed007's Note - |-)

11 Apr 2015 19:20:55
Some people are making a right T*T lol

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12 Apr 2015 07:43:49
Wouldn't mind adding a bit more white across that chest!

As for the 'leaked' photo, not sure. I think NB will give us some classically simple, almost 'retro' designs. Not sure about that collar though also, or that squareness around the shoulders. And I really don't like broken, patterned, watermarked or different sized hoops. Just keep the hoops simple - that's what makes them beautiful!

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12 Apr 2015 14:22:46
There is or never has been anything simple about the hoops 😋😆

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11 Apr 2015 13:30:39
See AMBROSE is in fine form once again! That guy is a total liability! RD must get shot this guy in the summer! I can't take much more of seeing this guy in a celtic top!

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11 Apr 2015 12:58:24
Heck of a start to the game.

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