Celtic Banter Archive September 10 2017

 

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10 Sep 2017 17:16:57
Hi ed, do you no what time roughly the psg players arrive at CP! Ma nephew wants to see them! Thanks.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't mate sorry. I know they've refused their right to train at Celtic Park and will only arrive in Glasgow 24 hours before the tie per the UEFA Regs. Isn't it usually about 1 1/2 hours before K.O. teams usually arrive?}

11 Sep 2017 00:01:30
Hope your nephews wanting to see them to hurl abuse Marti, none of this lookin for selfies and autographs ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰.

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11 Sep 2017 09:36:58
6.15pm usually marti, celtic arrive around that time too.

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11 Sep 2017 09:37:59
10.30 am flight.

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10 Sep 2017 21:01:27
So what's everyones line up for tue a would go
Gordon
Lustig jozo ajer kt
Brown ntcham
Roberts armstrong sinky
Lg (if fit)
Would play armstrong and ntcham in midfield just for bit extra cover instead of rogic try keep it tight
Hopefully can get a draw as feel psg are really good going forward but possibly bit shaky at back so heres hoping.

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10 Sep 2017 21:55:58
They are suspect at the back, put them under pressure from the off, get a quick goal and anything can happen, they are not a great team.

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10 Sep 2017 22:01:35
Why not target the win? They only romped it at weekend after other team had man sent off. Let them worry about us. I think the Hoops will win, i'll say 3-2.

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10 Sep 2017 22:05:41
Gordon
Gamboa-Lustig-Jozo-Tierney
Brown-Ntcham
Roberts-McGregor-Sinclair
Griffiths.

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{Ed007's Note - Gamboa??

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10 Sep 2017 22:37:43
My back four aswell kev Armstrong for McGregor though.

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10 Sep 2017 23:15:10
Only because I'd prefer Lustig in the centre. Gamboa can be unconvincing but he has the pace to track their lightning attack and take the ball up the park and relieve pressure which would be crucial. Maybe even use him as a wing back to a back 3 of ML, JS and KT.

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10 Sep 2017 23:53:19
hearing boyata will play.

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11 Sep 2017 09:28:09
I would go with Gamboa over Ralston too . Gamboa has more experience than Ralston and I think his pace could be crucial.

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11 Sep 2017 11:39:07
I haven't seen anything fae Gamboa that says he's worth a start. I'd go with ralston.

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11 Sep 2017 14:22:39
MOH ran Ralston Ragged. The boy just isn't of a level we are trying to get to.

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10 Sep 2017 17:59:28
Let's hope Areola starts in goal for PSG. And makes a bit of a tit of himself.

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10 Sep 2017 18:07:51
Class Andy. So long as our very own areola doesn't make a tit of himself.

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10 Sep 2017 19:15:27
ooh matron!

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10 Sep 2017 17:02:54
Ed any chance of a poll about the songs being sang as per Rodgers at Work and F Green Jhedi debate

IRA songs shouldn't be sang at a football match, end of.

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{Ed033's Note - In order to create a poll, please supply me with the question and voting options.

10 Sep 2017 17:28:43
Kev the next Rangers game at Parkhead can serve as an accurate poll of 60,000 Celtic fans. You'll here clearly the percentage of fans who sing them and the percentage of fans who don't. โ˜˜๏ธ.

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10 Sep 2017 18:06:52
I'm a trained tenor JFP so I just can't help myself.

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10 Sep 2017 18:55:41
I'm on the daily record website showing bt sports turning music down. let the Rebs go loud and proud hh.

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10 Sep 2017 19:16:32
ive only got a fiver.

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10 Sep 2017 19:55:56
I'm born and bred Glaswegian but in a Hun part of the city which as a lot of you know can be hard growing up. I've now lived the last 20 years in the north east of England but I know where I'm from. My great grand parents came to Glasgow in the 1880's from Ireland and their stories and their mothers and fathers and Grandparents stories have been passed down. Some things are hard to forget. So I will sing what I want.

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10 Sep 2017 20:20:24
Quite enjoy a bit of community singing myself! โ˜˜๏ธ.

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10 Sep 2017 20:55:58
Good man JFP.

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10 Sep 2017 23:33:34
Why sing your bigoted IRA songs at Celtic? Nothing to do with football just idiots living in the past. If it was the other side you are the first to complain. It's now a joke at Celtic and I know of so many people that won't take their kids to games because of the idiots singing their "traditional" songs. Time to stop, living I the bigoted past and move on. It is all so detrimental to the club that It is embarrassing.

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10 Sep 2017 23:50:13
Viking tim exactly correct. Too many offended people nowadays. Even as a celtic fan im not offended at the songs rangers sing.

Too many do gooders trying to look like model citizens.

But history is what it is and its entwined with the clubs like it or not.

Sang sing long before any of us were in our mums belly.

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10 Sep 2017 23:55:01
jfp me and you are known for our community singing lol.

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11 Sep 2017 08:16:15
U know of so many people who don't take their kids because of ira songs? Do these people think they'll shield their kids from being offended their whole lives. They will hear the songs regardless anyway it's up to them to make their minds up, just because they hear a song doesn't mean they need to join in or agree wae it.

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11 Sep 2017 15:24:19
The point is that singing theses songs is detrimental to the club. People don't want to be associated with it. And how will they hear these songs anyway? The only place I go that I hear them in at Celtic games.

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11 Sep 2017 18:27:37
Edg, you should maybe rephrase that to "I don't want to be associated with it".

The reason I say that is because if people did not want to be associated with it then they wouldn't sing them. The fact that thousands of Celtic fans do sing them, suggests that they enjoy singing them.

You say it is detrimental to the club and you are partly right here on account of UEFA fines, therefore, if people only sung them at non UEFA matches then it would not be detrimental to the club. That being said, waving Palestinian flags was detrimental to our club as well but I did not see the club complaining about that one.

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11 Sep 2017 20:07:43
They'll hear them at school, they'll be sent links on social media, they might even hear them in pubs when they're older and are lucky enough to find a pub that plays them. You've lived a very sheltered life pal if that's the only place you've heard them, u certainly don't live on ma Street. ๐Ÿ˜‰.

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11 Sep 2017 21:17:05
Edg, there is no reasoning with these people. We were either brought up differently or educated differently. So the knuckle draggers will continue to sing their offensive songs and bt sport will hopefully keep muting it so all the grown ups don't have to listen to them.

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11 Sep 2017 21:39:42
Hahaha, these people? Am no knuckle dragger. Maybe u were brought up differently and have a masters degree in snobbery but your no better than me.

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12 Sep 2017 12:56:27
Living in the past with totally irrelevant songs. Everyone has moved on other than people like you stephbhoy2. I have not lived a sheltered life. You know nothing about me but as usual when people have no excuses for what the do they will start getting Personel. Time to rejoin society and until you do, sorry, but knuckledragger is the appropriate term.

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{Ed007's Note - And you don't know Steph, what gives a sanctimonious tosser like you the right to judge any Celtic fan and call them a knuckledragger?}

10 Sep 2017 15:54:14
So BT turn the sound down at the Celtic game and then tell everyone they done so.

Now just to balance the argument do they also turn the sound down at the Rangers game and then let everyone know they done the same there?
We all know their songs are banned, but they really don't care and they also know that nothing will get done about it, unlike our fans who have become a target for the authourities

We all know our HISTORY and that we have more songs that we can sing, so why not just sing the songs that are NOT going to get OUR club into trouble, because that what they are all waiting for.

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10 Sep 2017 16:21:59
Just because the Vanguard Bears want to sit at home with the telly up full blast, listening with an ear trumpet for the faintest whisper of the word IRA, while wearing a pair of brogues, is no reason for us to stop singing our songs.

If they want to waste their time foaming at the mouth on social media, making petitions on survey monkey and writing angry letters in crayon to national broadcasters, then I say let them.

In the meantime, I shall enjoy going to the football and singing my favourite songs whilst gorging myself on jelly and ice cream.

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10 Sep 2017 23:34:47
Honestly you are an embarrassment you are an embarrassment to yourself and the club.

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11 Sep 2017 10:23:48
What this thread has clarified to me is that we do have a hardcore of seven or eight bigots on here who are no better than those on the other side of Glasgow. They are our shame and are everything that is wrong with society today and will never change. Knuckle draggers as my son refers to them as. We all love our team, however the majority of us understand what is acceptable and what is unacceptable.

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11 Sep 2017 15:50:36
Well said sensiblecat.

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11 Sep 2017 18:41:08
@Edg - "you are an embarrassment you are an embarrassment" - does that make me a double embarrassment? Anyway, when someone resorts to name calling you know that they are unable to win a debate with you. Therefore, I declare myself the winner.

@SensibleCelt - Here is the definition of a bigot "a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions". Now ask yourself this, is it you or me who is the bigot? Do you see me saying "they are our shame and are everything wrong with society today" or calling people "knuckle draggers" because they have a different opinion?

So who is the person showing intolerance of people holding different views? Don't you just love irony?

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11 Sep 2017 23:56:10
@RodgersAtWork - you must have a different dictionary to me, "a person who has unreasonable beliefs and who dislikes other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life". Just to clarify, I have no issue with your general beliefs or way of life. I find your choice of songs offensive and I am reasonably entitled to do so.

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10 Sep 2017 12:06:47
@ Rogers at work. Really? At 57 years of age mate i doubt you have seen any more games than me. season ticket since before fergus. maybe you are younger and don't realise that the press have a field day with this?

The chanting of IRA songs is ridiculous and outdated nonsense. There are plenty of Celtic songs and other republican songs to sing. See what i did there RAW? Republican songs without mentioning the IRA or the add ons to others.

And please don't throw the Soldiers Song in to the mix as the bastardised version sing by some is an insult to the song.

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10 Sep 2017 13:10:31
I bet that you have sung many republican and IRA songs at Parkhead over the years, as have I.

Just because you no longer sing them or may no longer agree with them does not give you the right to tell others what they can and cannot sing.

These songs are a big part of our culture in many people's eyes and it gives people; rightly or wrongly, a sense of identity and belonging.

There are songs I sung in the old jungle that I would not sing now but you won't hear me chastising people who wish to sing them now because that would make both self-righteous and a hypocrite.

The way I see it, is that many of the fans from working class backgrounds can no longer afford to go on account of the high cost. These fans are being replaced with middle class people who have different political and social views. This is one of the main reasons football is becoming sanitised, which I don't like. As a result I will sing the songs even more just to piss these people off. If their middle class sensibilities can't handle it then they can always stay at home and watch on TV with the volume turned down.

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10 Sep 2017 13:20:48
I've lost your logic there FGJ I'm afraid. I asked earlier where is the line ie. is Grace OK or not OK? If I'm understanding you correctly you have no objection to fans singing songs in support of the republican cause as long as there is no mention of the organisation that engaged in an armed struggle to progress that cause? Not sure I get that argument. Just genuinely trying to establish agreement amongst ourselves where the line is? What can be said for certain is Celtic FC as a club are not inviting ex-members of that organisation to Parkhead but across the Clyde in Govan the armed forces are more than welcome with I'd wager the parachute regiment first on the list of those invited and we all know why. The term murdering organisation is dependent on your political viewpoint. I am not expressing an opinion merely stating facts and the sensibilities of those who find some songs offensive isn't high on my list of concerns. It does concern me though that it is used against the club but that these songs or some other issue will be used to blight Celtics name has always and will always be the case. As to where the line is I'm no clearer.

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10 Sep 2017 13:21:45
"As a result I will sing these songs even more just to piss these people off"
Well that explains it all, .

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10 Sep 2017 13:31:28
Big part of our culture, where have i heard that defence before? Yes i did sing songs in the jungle that are unsuitable now, that's my point. surely the world, especially in Ireland, has changed since the seventies? I sung songs then as a protest against the treatment of Republican prisoners and the secret murder gangs who operated in collusion with forces of the crown. That was then mate, we are closer to a united Ireland than ever in the now.

This chanting of IRA, we are becoming noticed for it because certain people, in and out of the game, use it to beat us. Why do you think the laughable and embarrassing armed forces day was invented? Celtic Park has become known world wide for various reasons, jeeze, look at the strides we have made in leaving a basket case of assets in our wake. To continue this will come back to bite us. I say this as a proud Republican, but in Celtic Park im there for the football.

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10 Sep 2017 14:35:35
Rodgers at work, correct in what u say, aindoh iv never seen a positive comment from u on here.

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10 Sep 2017 15:16:48
Positivity is my middle name.

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10 Sep 2017 15:29:24
Raw. can only the working classes support Celtic? . and do you want to go back to the unsanitised pish strewn terraces of the 70s? . what actually defines working class now Raw? . genuine questions not an attack.

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10 Sep 2017 15:51:05
I can define middles class . Some eejit who's working class but has his / her head up their arse .

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10 Sep 2017 16:08:38
No, anyone can support Celtic if they so choose. Why do you ask?

With regards going back to the 70s, there are pros and cons. I actually liked the terracing and liked the fact that you would go as a group and were able to stand beside your mates once you got inside. On top of that I also enjoyed the banter between fans and never once left the ground being upset or angry over what the opposition fans were singing. However, I did not enjoy when you had to go for a shite as the bogs were worse than the one in Trainspotting.

I can only give you the definition of what working class is to me. To me working class people were the people I grew up with who lived on council estates and did not have a lot of money.

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10 Sep 2017 16:30:18
Get yourselves into the Walfrid, no singing at all ๐Ÿ˜‚.

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10 Sep 2017 17:07:17
Aindoh positive mcgarry.

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10 Sep 2017 17:17:24
Although i must say fgj your last comment makes sense, i think the thing to remember here is we are all celtic fans'with the exception of maybe aindoh๐Ÿ˜Š' and maybe sensible dialogue is needed to avoid bans etc, but i for one will mot condemn anyone for singing these songs justbecause i have grown and matured now, and it is the derisary teems some celtic fans use when condemning our own that makes them sound anti-republican, in general just not celtic people and causes division amongst us which plays into the peole who would love to see our extinctions hands, we are in a great place right now and we must stick together with no internal rumblings, ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ชโœŒ๏ธ.

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10 Sep 2017 18:18:13
The IRA stuff is provocative and dated. It is only one aspect of our History and as important as it is, it should not define us as a club. I think it's something we could easily do without.

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10 Sep 2017 18:35:17
Ttts that's the best definition of middle class I've ever heard. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘.

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10 Sep 2017 19:09:17
Why are you responding to this person. He wouldn't know a Socialist if he was bitten by won. The IRA stuff may actually have been of some minor relevance in the 70 and 80s but we and importantly the people of NI have or are trying to move on. Sing the songs that matter about our great sporting club and family. Rodgers at work you will never speak for or represent me or the vast vast majority of Celtic FC fans.

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10 Sep 2017 20:13:07
Who McGarry?

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10 Sep 2017 23:49:15
Bitten by 'won' ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜‚.

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10 Sep 2017 23:51:53
@Ignatius Loyola - You really make me laugh with your unintentional irony.

Firstly, you tell people not to respond to me but then you respond.

Secondly, you claim that I will not speak or represent the "vast vast" majority of Celtic fans, yet you try and do exactly that with your assertion.

Thirdly, while this one is not ironic, why are you attributing the talking of socialism (not sure how you get bit by "won") to myself? If you scroll back through what has been said you may notice that at no point was I talking about socialism, for that matter I was not claiming to be the representative of the "vast vast" majority of Celtic fans either .

By the way I love when it when Celtic fans who chastise the singing of rebel songs come down the Celtic pubs and try and educate us about what we should and shouldn't sing. It is comedy gold when they are told in no uncertain terms where to go and they quickly scurry off with their tail between their legs.

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11 Sep 2017 13:57:29
Is that achieved by debating or are you threatening to harm them for not wanting the support not to sing Provo songs.

And as an aside, do all these Provo song supporters attend marches?

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11 Sep 2017 20:12:16
Magicpole I've never heard of a provo march, I've been on plenty of republican parades but if that's what u mean. Anyway wots that got to do wae singing? Are u only allowed to sing rebel songs if u go on republican marches? What a load of Sh/ t@ that is.

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12 Sep 2017 13:46:10
Yes I'm talking about the political aspect where true Republicans do more than sing. They turn out.

You know what I'm getting at and the point is it's damaging to the club and splits the support. How can you sing those songs when you know it's damaging the club?

Seems the love of the Provos supersedes that of Celtic.

I don't agree with putting the ira before our club. Do that all day. March up and down the street all you want and good luck to you. This is a football club singing about stuff the Irish don't even sing .

Why are we the vehicle for expressing your love of the Provos?

That's all I'm asking.

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10 Sep 2017 10:53:35
I see Gordon Parks has backed up his rubbish from last week and basically slagged off Larson for also having a lack of ambition. The word I would use to describe him would not be printed on this site, but suffice to say it has a few adjectives before it and begins with c.

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10 Sep 2017 11:45:16
Andy, just do not buy that paper or read anymore of his articles, hit them where it hurts, he was a failed footballer and is a failed journalist.

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10 Sep 2017 12:05:06
To counter that there was another journalist from that rag put up a decent argument for paddy and i thought it was pretty fair.

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10 Sep 2017 12:19:11
Matt, I do not read that paper, so maybe somebody there has some sense, but my reason for not reading it remains the same, it is a racist, bigoted rag.

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10 Sep 2017 13:01:27
This guy is just a paper version of a shock jock. He says anything just to get people reading his pish.

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10 Sep 2017 13:54:47
Malika - I don't waste my money on it and haven't bought it in years, but I do occasionally look at the sports hotline to see what the fans think. This particular load of garbage just caught my eye and I didn't even bother reading it all.
I don't get why these aholes get their rubbish printed though.

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10 Sep 2017 19:01:56
Larsson lack of ambition!? After leavin Celtic he went on to be a successful player for 2 of the biggest clubs in the world, winning the champs League in the process.! The guys just a bitter wee man who was also absolutely Brad Pitt at football!

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10 Sep 2017 19:05:20
That's the problem though Kev people still read it week in week out, the same people might I add and still moan about it. I've not bought a paper for years due to the utter garbage in them, and even the clickbait mince online i don't read, if i want to know anything Celtic related i pop on here see what you guys are saying or to see if any of the Eds have posted any info, they're far more accurate than all the rags and websites put together.

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10 Sep 2017 10:45:00
I know its a long shot, but has anyone got a spare for Tuesday? Desperate for a ticket just missed out on the general sale, had a season ticket for years but work every weekend so no point anymore and I am desperate to go, any help would be much appreciated. HH๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€.

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10 Sep 2017 20:14:34
Who did he play for?, I can't recall the name.

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10 Sep 2017 09:06:52
Who the feck are these bams who will not shut the feck up with the IRA nonsense? Friday again was a disgrace. Really, we need to drop this rubbish or are we, as they always say, as bad as them. give it up you tools.

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10 Sep 2017 09:53:30
Club will eventually stop accepting away tickets till it stops.

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10 Sep 2017 09:58:24
Can't agree more GJ. I honestly don't get it. How many times do they need to be told the club gets fined for it. It gives the Scottish press an absolute field day.

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10 Sep 2017 10:13:22
These so called bams are known as Celtic supporters. If you actually went to games you would realise that it is not a small minority but in fact the majority.

As the song says "Let the people sing" and as I say, to hell with people's middle class sensibilities.

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10 Sep 2017 10:51:24
I go to games as regularly as I can, and I can assure you any game I've been to I haven't heard any IRA chants. It only seems to be away games that it's a MAIN issue. Your saying let the people sing. Do you boo when the skeletons sing their songs. Would you moan if people sang about pro-ISIS songs? Are you happy with the orange dinosaurs making a racket in the streets walking for god knows what?

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10 Sep 2017 11:19:44
So called bams Rodgersatwork? Complete Feckin idiots! Nothing to do with being middle class lol it's to do with the fact of supporting a murdering organisation! Nothing to do with what class your supposedly in but whether you've got a Fecken brain!

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10 Sep 2017 11:24:08
Where is the line though guys? Is Grace ok? Is the song played by the club over the tannoy stating 'Let me people sing their stories and their songs there lullabys and battle cries' sending out the wrong message? Is the wee are the people's annual armed forces day yesterday OK because of its acceptability on a surface level when we all know what it's really all about? Not expressing an opinion either way just putting the questions out there. Where is the line?

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10 Sep 2017 11:33:17
A total embarrassment to the club. Away Day Provos who have never been in a Republican March, never more than a couple of hundred.

If this is so important you would think they might turn out.

The fact they don't is either down to not being that committed or scared of the loyalists.

BT lowered the sound as one IRA song after another. Apart from being boring as feck they tarnish our club and every fan who wishes they would give it a by and sing Celtic songs.

Lawell needs to issue a statement simply stating any Provo songs heard at away games and everyone who got a ticket won't get another one.

The Huns and press use this and it's a disgrace supporters don't care what damage they do.

Hit the streets if you are such a diehard.

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10 Sep 2017 12:10:45
Gstq and Flower of Scotland are political and have agressive words where does it stop but agree the provo stuff needs to be toned down a bit.

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10 Sep 2017 12:18:14
Sadly it seems to be every away game we hear the same old song. In ten years of sporting events in Ireland I have never heard a pro IRA song. The same scumbags singing the same songs unaware the world has moved on. Thankfully it is only a minority.

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10 Sep 2017 12:18:00
@toprig - Admittedly, the songs are sung more at away games than they are at home games but I can assure you that the Green Brigade (and others) sing them at home games as well. For example when I was at the Linfield game most of the stadium joined in when we song the Broad Black Brimmer.

In answer to your question I do not boo when Rangers' fans sing their songs. I also could not care less if opposing fans sang pro-Isis songs. I can also assure you that I have never been bothered with the orange walk despite disagreeing with their views.

@SoSBhoy - So you are suggesting that anyone who supports a murdering organisation are idiots and lacking brain cells? Using that logic you are slagging off the majority of your own fans, anyone who buys a poppy or anyone who supports the British armed forces and many more. Let me give you a history lesson, the British establishment and Armed Forces are responsible for 10s of millions of deaths all over the world, compared to a few thousand caused by the PIRA. Sticking with this comparison, the Brits do it for financial gain and the PIRA did it in their fight against centuries of oppression. So who are the real bad guys?

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10 Sep 2017 12:33:31
I know our history is interlinked with Ireland and can understand the empathy but I don't get the obsession of irishness. not wanting to upset/ insult anyone irish but I have never wanted to be Irish or live in Ireland . and although sang the songs when younger I truthfully certainly never wanted to go fight and die or go to jail there. (is it a bit like internet trolling when you can safely spout off without having to actually physically face it or back up your vocal support by actually doing something about it.?
Or is there a collective split personality amongst our support . as I said I don't want to be Irish but I also still don't associate myself as Scottish and this is where it still festers with most as I have seen and encountered historical prejudice and discrimination because of my religion
. not having had to look for work in years is it still as bad? do respectable looking people walk past you as a child or youth with a Celtic top on and call you a fenian or taig bastard? Jfp is right where do you draw the line. is it outdated yes imo but like a lot of people who find it embarrising and cringeworthy (especially adding on ira in middle of lines of songs just fir the sake of it) i know im also hypocritical about it and in tbe pub with a feed of vodka in me and in a comfort zone of people I know I would belt out the songs like I was a daft young boy again. im not wanting to preach or stop / change peoples political views or even force them to stop singing just adding to the debate hopefully as honestly as I can or at my stage of life now perceive it.

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10 Sep 2017 12:40:56
Celtic are a football club. This political/ religious bullcrap has nothing to do with our club. Yes celtic started that way almost 130 yrs ago but football and life has evolved. I'm from just outside belfast and got abused for yrs by the huns. The IRA were a bunch of murderers fighting for a cause they believed in but this has nothing to do with football so keep it out of the stands. Sing all u like in the bars b4 and after but have some respect in the stadiums. HH.

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10 Sep 2017 15:00:10
Times change. What was acceptable when I was young is no longer allowed. We are trying to rid the game and society of bigotry racism and homophobia. It's time to let songs about the IRA go. There are plenty of Celtic and Irish bases songs that don't mention the IRA.
It now makes our club look bad, it overshadows all the good we do and let's people attack our
we were praise for tackling homophobia but then revel in this?

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10 Sep 2017 15:05:44
Jfp i would go with the rule of thumb that if it mentions the IRA specifically then it's a definite no no.
There is a difference about Irish folk songs and blatant Provo songs in my eye.

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10 Sep 2017 16:10:33
Kev83, what does singing IRA songs have to do with homophobia, bigotry or racism?

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10 Sep 2017 18:25:41
Several of the IRA sings are both racest and bigoted RAW.

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10 Sep 2017 19:00:03
Well said SoSBhOy
The sad reality is that the halfwits who sing the provocative songs are more interested in their self-perceived right to sing them than they are about our club. It makes you wonder if they are genuine fans or just looking for a platform to spout their out of date and negative tripe. HH.

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10 Sep 2017 19:02:01
its not a crime to be an Irish Republican.

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10 Sep 2017 19:24:00
ive never heard an IRA song that is racist or sectarian in my life kev your wetting your pants again, what ones are you talking about? name the lyrics then?

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10 Sep 2017 22:35:22
Me either James.

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10 Sep 2017 23:43:36
Can we maybe split the IRA songs or the pira songs from the older republican songs like the rising of the moon, the wearing of the green, boolavogue, I can't remember the Tom Barry quote that went something like the British went down into the mire and we went down after them, but I just can't have any truck with the versions of the IRA or their offshoots blowing up pubs and killing innocent people, men women and children, for what?, so that they or we can say we are in control, what does it matter now in Ireland anyway, it has been prostituted to the European union and is controlled by Brussels.

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11 Sep 2017 12:11:23
If we are so Irish, seems more Irish than the Irish, who never sing these feckin songs, why haven't we moved with them.

Listening to this utter shite every away game when 90% of those singing never attend any republican March but get all Dewey eyed about the struggle is embarrassing.

Have your political say by all means, but donut where it matters on matches or political involvement.

It's right enough comparing it to the 70's and 80's. It's a weight around our neck and we need to let it go. Reading on here it is clear that the Provo is strong in some and that won't happen as they just love the ira so much and the struggle haunts their every thought and emotion. Cektuc need to issue a statement, ira songs at away games then everyone in there is removed from the list. It's getting worse every game and it seems people prefer to sing ira songs rather than Celtic songs. And it has feck all to do with class, well it has, but not in the way discussed.

What the feck has the Broad Black Brimmer got to do with our football team? Time to move on.

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{Ed007's Note - How do you know what 90% of the Celtic support do and where did you get that figure from? If you go to any Republican march you'll meet plenty of people that you've met on travels following Celtic, some supporters clubs run buses to them, and I know some of the lads from the GB are in bands from Glasgow and Lanarkshire as well.}

11 Sep 2017 13:46:57
You're deflecting. The only question people should be asked who do you support more?

The Provos or Celtic?

I doubt it's the Provos and I will use the paltry number who actually March as all the proof anyone needs. Away day Provos. I would have more respect if 10,000 turned out but I would still ask them to stop at games as it hurts us.

So, it's Celtic, then why embarrass the club signing songs that when push comes to shove, you don't hit the streets for?

The Irish don't sing them.

It's embarrassing. It hurts the image of the club and it is used to demonise the club and fans who don't agree with this 70's utter rubbish.

What was deemed acceptable in the 70's in so many areas we now look at with at times shame. When the Irish are trying to move on and get out of the cycle of hate, who are we as a football team to keep it going?

Sing Celtic songs loud and proud and put away the holster. Are we really advocating a return to killing?

I have no problem with people's political beliefs. This isn't about political beliefs as they do feck all apart from sing. Let's sing our way to victory. Let's look for peace and stop taking up a tragic history. If we don't it will continue to be our present and future.

Hail Hail.

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11 Sep 2017 18:50:44
@MagicPole - using your logic you cannot sing unless you support a cause and attend rallies. Does that mean I cannot sing "Bella Ciao" because I am not a member of the Italian Communist movement? Does that mean I cannot sing "I Wish I Knew (How It Would Feel to Be Free) " because I did not attend a civil rights march?

To put you straight, people sing songs for many different reasons, not just the one you think.

For example I bet if you polled the Celtic supporters who sing rebel songs, why do you sing them? You would get a multitude of answers.

Anyway regardless of why people sing a certain song, what gives you the right to tell them not to sing it?

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