Celtic Banter Archive August 10 2018

10 Aug 2018 21:41:18
I don't have a lot of sympathy for B R as he claims to be a life long supporter of Celtic . In that case he came here as manager with his eyes open and knew all about the Board and it's attitude to spending money .
Brendan knew a major part of his role as manager would be persuading the board to free sufficient funds to sustain his ambitions . At this time, with just 3 weeks left in this transfer window B R seems to be publicly complaining about our board .
So is he admitting defeat in not winning over the board?

10 Aug 2018 22:43:41
Get a grip Chris. If he feels he can't take us any further why would he stay. Supporter or not. It's clear he's been led astray by the board and after winning back to back trebles has every right to feel pissed off at not getting backed. I wouldn't blame him if he walked.

10 Aug 2018 23:07:44
Wow Chris! And you accuse me of talking nonsense? Brendan’s actions for me a fair enough, he has been straight up and said what he thought about the lack of investment. Is he supposed to say, “Oh well, biscuit tin is the model, need to get on with it”? His successes have generated revenues that can be built upon and all he has said is that you need to build on successes by replacing talent. 3 weeks is ample time to make investments, I see his media activity as an authoritative nudge rather than a concession of defeat.

10 Aug 2018 23:08:38
Old man Chris. I have every sympathy with Brendan Rodgers. He doesn't seem to be demanding anything too outlandish from the board yet they still won't back him.
Being a Celtic fan shouldn't mean you can't be ambitious, but that is the impression being given out.
We should look to improve as much as we can year on year. That doesn't mean bankrupting the club or mean that we are living beyond our means, it just means investing a bit of our wealth into strengthening the team. That surely is not too much to ask. I would rather make money by qualifying for the Champions league than by selling our best players
Unfortunately our board seem to want to do it the other way around. By doing this they not only make us weaker on the field, they will also ensure that we lose a very talented manager who will be very difficult to replace.
I am far more in tune with Brendan's vision for Celtic than that of the board. If that means I'm not a fan then so be it.

10 Aug 2018 23:33:38
Brendan knew that PL and board were slow to release money,
His ambitions to progress the club are of course laudable and all us supporters applaud him . However hanging his dirty washing out in public especially with the main stream Scottish media is in my humble opinion the wrong way to do it and in the long run Brendan and us fans could be the losers.

12 Aug 2018 22:43:07
Agree OMC, Rodgers has been backed!

10 Aug 2018 20:43:30
Have we signed the kid Arzani yet? Seems like we have forgotten how to seal a deal.

10 Aug 2018 21:23:24
How did you figure that out? because we don't run to the MSM every time we are interested in a player.

10 Aug 2018 18:48:44
Possibly going to get get shot down for this post but other than for the financial reward of the Champions League I think I'd prefer to see us have a go at the Europa league this season. Hear me out. Since we first qualified for he CL back in the O'Neil era we always punched above our weight. Parkhead became a fortress. We beat the likes of Juventus, AC Milan, Porto, Benfica, Barcelona, Lyon, Man Utd etc. Teams feared facing us at home. Fast forward to present day the gap between ourselves and the top European teams is just TOO big. I have attended the last 6 CL home games where we have achieved 1 draw and 5 defeats. We have also suffered heavy away defeats. Thinking about this season do I want to see our current side go up against Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern or PSG to name a few and get potentially humiliated. Not for me. We are a Europa League level club at best imo and so for me I wouldn't be disappointed if that's where we compete this season.

10 Aug 2018 19:45:29
Agree with most of that Ice Man, the only appeal with playing in the CL nowadays is the cash. The competition has changed massively in the last 5 years and has become quite torturous watching us in it. There is nothing we can do about the growing gulf. There's probably 20 of the 32 teams that have a single player that cost more than our first 11.

10 Aug 2018 19:54:23
Would rather get pumped in the champions league for the money and finish 3rd in the group stage to drop into the Europa league👍.

10 Aug 2018 20:00:05
I hear what you are saying. The gap now is enormous. But, we have been up against since day one as a club. This is not different. With a little added quality the arses being handed to us will reduce. We will be able to throw a couple of punches as well as take a right few.

What Rogers wants, like all of us, is to give ourselves more a fighting chance. To me even getting there is a brilliant achievement. If we could take that additional step that allowed us to seriously contend for 3rd spot in the group and achieve it, it allows us to drop into the EL with our heads held high and give it a real go. That’s passing oot material for me.

To be able to take all the best on. Maybe not win many, if any, but they leave knowing that the Glasgow Celtic to them on, with fight and skill and heart.

That’s the Celtic I love, the Aye dae ye feckin think so, attitude.

We can achieve that. I absolutely believe that. Shoot as high as you can and that means become a recognised CL team, who win the EL every three years. :)

If we get the result on Tuesday I think we are on our way. I think we can.

10 Aug 2018 20:09:41
Fair point ice my thought process at the start of the season is qualify for champions league make the money then hopefully drop into Europa would like UEFA to scrap both comps and 6 league to start up played across tues wed Thurs 16 teams in each league
League 1a and 1b on Tues
Super league a and b on Wed
League 2a and 2b on a Thursday
Top 2 then qualify for semi finals

If a team from a country is promoted to league above and doesn't qualify through domestic football then a playoff between the 2 could decide what league each team goes into
Might be confusing but no more than a champions competition containing teams that have never win their domestic league.

10 Aug 2018 20:55:12
We should be a strong Europa side, but we also shouldn't be scared of regularly getting humiliated in the CL every year.

There's a reason, because we chose to downsize.

10 Aug 2018 21:20:57
It's geared for the 4 big nations. eufa are a joke how they treat the other nations is a disgrace. but the money if you get in really consolidates the club and a hate saying that but it keeps us way ahead of the manky mob.

10 Aug 2018 21:22:24
What a stupid comment Tesla "we chose to downsize". How do you work that one out? If we downsized Tierney, Dembele and Edouard wouldn't be with us this season for starters.

10 Aug 2018 21:35:26
I appreciate we get hammered of different teams in the champions league but why not take the cash on offer if we can . We can’t continually moan about the difference in budgets, we are on a different playing field to most of Scotland but they still turn up, and give us a game or at least make it tough for us. What do we do, drop into Europa then complain when champions league teams drop back into it? What’s to say we are good enough for the Europa? We lost the first game we played in it last year . Unfortunately even teams like Ajax are now spending 10-15 million on players so we just have to get on with it. Take the cash, try and organise to make it harder for the teams we play and eventually improve by spending some of the money we make 🤷‍♂️ ( in an ideal world, mr Lawell )

10 Aug 2018 21:59:10
The financial gap has nothing to do with the hammerings, they were because the teams were set up the wrong way or the wrong tactics and team selections were used, take this game in Athens, if the right team is selected and the right tactics are used, we will cruise it, if not, it's down to the Europa league,

10 Aug 2018 22:12:28
Wouldn't it be great if we could qualify for the CL group stages, take the cash and then voluntarily drop into the EL without playing a CL game? That way we'd have the reward without the thumpings that go with it lol HH.

{Ed007's Note - Prostitution don't work that way :)

10 Aug 2018 22:27:07
You're right ed if you want the money be prepared to get f##k## 😂😂.

{Ed007's Note - That's basically what the CL is to us.}

10 Aug 2018 22:47:29
Reader of this forum for a long time so first time poster.

First of all well done to the Ed's for having the patience of saints!

Good post Iceman and feel you have some good points. Our young Celts would gain great experience in the Europa League as I don't really see what they gain from hammerings in the Champions League. A few good results in the Europa League and who knows maybe a good run into quarter/ semi finals in a couple of years time. On champions League night though I hate when we are not in it but maybe the sensible more realistic approach is Thursday night football. HH.

10 Aug 2018 22:53:07
Aindoh financial gap has nothing to do with it? PSG’s front 3 cost £400m but yeah it was our tactics that were the issue 😂.

10 Aug 2018 23:10:49
Nobody is asking us to win the CL, but 7-1 etc is not acceptable. Don't care if it's the 2002 Brazil team we are facing.

We also had Biton at the back .

We have never outspent these sides but managed to give them games and have respect and excitement.

Now it's just defeated attitude in the way we spend and accept humiliations.

11 Aug 2018 00:46:40
Did Germany not spank Brazil in the world cup in recent times 7-1. Even the best get spanked from time to time. In the semi final of a tournament as well.

11 Aug 2018 06:28:39
Yes, and how did PSG do in the tournament?, were they beaten by a team with a more expensive frontline, it's all nonsense, just because somebody pays X amount for a player doesn't makes that player X times better than another player, football is a team game,

10 Aug 2018 17:04:14
Not been on for a bit as hate the morale around the fans atm! we aren't out of europe? the window isn't shut? Pls be happy.

{Ed007's Note -

10 Aug 2018 17:57:53
Has the sunshine came back?

{Ed007's Note - It's always sunny in here

10 Aug 2018 18:27:50
Tune ed 😎😍.

{Ed007's Note - :)

10 Aug 2018 18:56:57
How about a tune since Brendans going to be packing it in shortly . The End by The Doors might be appropriate, might cheer a few on here up a bit🤣.

10 Aug 2018 19:15:25
Brilliant Ed just what I needed after a stressful week and having to listen to that Greek feck with the drum.

10 Aug 2018 16:11:37
Hi Ed007, if you’ve got the time just wanted to hear your take on The premier league window shutting. Are you happy we didn’t sell Boyata? Or can you see a European club coming in for him, same question with Dembele really, do you think that means we will have him this season or could he move abroad? Cheers.

{Ed007's Note - I'm glad the English window's closed because it cuts off probably THE biggest threat to keeping our players but Dembele and Boyata aren't from the UK so the Pub League isn't the be all and end all of football to them and and no doubt both will have their suitors on the continent.
I'm also happy that it's shut and we can hopefully bring in a couple of players to strengthen the squad and to give everyone a lift after the past couple of days.}

10 Aug 2018 20:42:25
I hope we get a big signing in before Tuesday just to lift everyone a bit. It would be a big finger up to the press and might just keep magicpole off the anti depressants.

10 Aug 2018 14:29:38
Focusing on morras game does BR rest anyone for Tuesday i. e. Edouard for Griff or bring Boyata in for Ajer cause he's no playing due to suspension?

10 Aug 2018 14:57:28
Ad like to see griff boyata get some game time. Set them up nicely for mid week.

10 Aug 2018 16:22:25
Bain

Boyata Simunovic Tierney

Brown Kouassi

Forrest McGregor Johnston

Edouard Griffiths

Bench - Ntcham Rogic Sinclair Ajer and Hendry.

This would take a bit of balls 😂.

10 Aug 2018 16:44:43
Could see Sinky starting or Hayes for that matter. But Kouassi has been in and around the team consistently for a stretch now and it would be good to see him start along with Gamboa.

10 Aug 2018 16:47:48
I believe we lose too much of an attacking threat when KT goes into a central back three.

10 Aug 2018 17:39:45
I think we have to play our full strength first 11.
We know how difficult the tarts and that Slim Levien will try and make it and I don't want to give the Orc's a lift if we end up dropping points.

10 Aug 2018 20:42:57
Johnston in a game like this? Far too lightweight tomorrow they will be trying to kick everything.

10 Aug 2018 21:08:00
Probably what people said about KT. Let the boy play and make a fool of them. He's a celtic player time to stop wrapping them in cotton wool.

10 Aug 2018 21:26:29
The tarts didn't think cochrane was too young or lightweight last season against us. Bring the young lads in and let them loose.

10 Aug 2018 22:45:52
Agree Jeb ad play the 2 of them maybe even kouassi because they'll be out to kick us.

10 Aug 2018 14:15:38
I remember getting my first season ticket and going to support the Bhoys at Hampden just hoping we could stop the cheats but knowing we didn't have the team to do it. Then we started bringing better players with Pierre coming first then later back at Paradise with Cadette and Di Canio.

My point is we should get behind the team know matter who we sign and if the Moose is back for Tuesday I think we can do it!

Hail Hail.

10 Aug 2018 12:21:37
Hows your head Ed. Mines is bouncing jusr reading it all.

{Ed007's Note - My head's fine but my troll blocking finger is very itchy today :-D

10 Aug 2018 12:51:26
Hear ed. What ever happened to Mickdundee. With this amount of moaning I thought he'd be around?

{Ed007's Note - He probably bored himself senseless.}

10 Aug 2018 13:09:28
😂😂😂.

{Ed007's Note - :-D

10 Aug 2018 13:16:24
I know his brerr Kev CrocodileDundee :-D.

10 Aug 2018 13:23:52
Ok your challenge for the day Ed. And this should also help lighten the mood of everyone on here.

With the exception of genuine news that would require a written response, all replies from you should be in the form of an appropriate GIF. Now i am sure youll enjoy that.

{Ed007's Note -

via GIPHY

10 Aug 2018 14:41:54
Don't worry I'm still here =) , been a member for a few good years now and it will take a lot more than you Kev83 to get rid. I come on and read a few times every day, its good to see Kev83 still shoots down everyone that doesn't have the same opinion as him haha! Still having your cosy nights with Sinclair still? hahaha!

10 Aug 2018 15:01:16
Why would I want rid of you Mick?
Your comedy gold with your rants😂😂.

10 Aug 2018 15:10:48
Sorry if I don’t always agree with mediocrity unlike your good self 👍. Then again if it’s against anything you think is true or acceptable it’s a rant 😂.

10 Aug 2018 15:43:09
Jamie shame on u. Mick dundee was crocodile dundee. Hang your head in shame to one of the great films of all time lol. 😁.

10 Aug 2018 22:46:19
she had one of the best bodies of all time Linda Kozlowski.

10 Aug 2018 11:33:00
Maybe it's just me and I am completely missing something but are we not only half way through a two legged tie and the score is one apiece?
Yes it will be tough and possibly we won't go through but let's be positive and back the Bhoys. COYBIG.

10 Aug 2018 12:15:25
You do understand the away goal principle don't you. Yeah its half way, but we are out as it stands.

10 Aug 2018 12:34:07
Doesn’t matter if we score over there though, I think we will and if dembele is back that will help a lot.

Anyone else like to see us work on corners a bit? For the life of me I can’t remember the last time we scored from one.

10 Aug 2018 12:37:29
I get that Shug . and accept they are hard to score against especially at home . but we are equally capable of scoring and are very much still in it.
If we don't or, more importantly the players, feel that we are capable of going through then we are beaten before we start imo.
As I said a toughie and will be anything but easy but let's go out and play the way we know we can and take it from there. HH.

10 Aug 2018 13:02:43
I agree foxiboy it was a sore one the other night but we did show we were the better side I feel and we controlled the game. We're capable of doing the same over there. This seems to be the most nervous time of the year for Celtic fans, once the window shuts and we're in the Champions league it's time to sit back and enjoy it all! Hopefully.

10 Aug 2018 13:15:55
I have said countless times (sorry for the deja vu Ed) , that we waste far too many dead ball situations - especially corners - and the delivery is often very poor or we maybe don't have players that attack the ball? The amount of free kicks, corners and even long throws should at least create something considering how many we get.

{Ed007's Note - Our set pieces are terrible, OAB.}

10 Aug 2018 13:47:19
Unless griff is on the park there is no point us having a dead ball situation.

{Ed007's Note - That's probably a fair assessment, Kev.}

10 Aug 2018 13:57:48
Surely having a fit Griffiths will help gents. He needs to be on corners and freekicks. Love Ntcham but more often than not his delivery is woeful.

10 Aug 2018 14:01:36
Ed i don't think we even practice set plays. They are honking

Foxi, They don't need to score against us there and they know we do. We couldn't break down 10 of them at Paradise on our nice new bowling green in cool temps. I have major doubts we will break down a full team, away in soarong heat potentially 40degrees going by current weather. We couldn't beat Red Imps in that heat.

{Ed007's Note - It's 31 degrees in Athens today, that's about the same as it was in Alashkert and we won 3-0 over there.}

10 Aug 2018 15:24:06
Ed I mind people going daft that Griffiths was taking corners on the live chat, now people calling for him to be taking them 😂😂.

{Ed007's Note - He shouldn't be taking them - your best natural poacher should always be in the box looking for scraps at set pieces - but he is the only player that seems capable of delivering a decent ball.
Again it says a lot about the standard of the AM players when we need to look at a striker for delivering a decent ball in.}

10 Aug 2018 16:25:25
Paul Hartley always put a decent ball into the box.

10 Aug 2018 18:40:37
Can anybody remember the last time when we actually scored from a corner? There is always a roar, but, nothing ever happens.

10 Aug 2018 22:42:10
It'll be tough but not beyond us they'll attack a bit more because they hardly did at paradise. ad throw boyata in tomorrow so he's ready for Tues and play jozo on Tues as well the heat will be bad but they handled it in aleshkert so they'll know what they're in for. HH keep the faith.

10 Aug 2018 08:59:38
Ed what is the normal way appeals for red cards and such are dealt with, the reason I ask is that I know a lawyer that's been put on the panel for appeals at the sfa, he told my brother that morelos card got downgraded and it didn't even get presented to the panel. This can't be normal can it? Who decides what goes in front of the panel then.

{Ed007's Note - Hhhhmmm I'm not entirely sure, Steph. I just assumed there was a hearing for them all.}

10 Aug 2018 10:43:34
I thought ref gets to watch it first with the compliance officer and he can change the decision himself before it goes to the panel but could be wrong?

10 Aug 2018 13:05:23
So did I ed but maybe there's been a change. I'll keep watching the rest of the appeals throughout the season, this isn't a personal friend but I will see him over the next few weeks n al ask him how it normally goes.

{Ed007's Note - Yeah I'd be interested to know more about the process too so let me know, Steph.}

10 Aug 2018 22:46:44
@stephbhoy2 - I’m calling bull. For a number of reasons 1/ no lawyer worth his salt would risk speaking out of turn
2/ according to you lot, the SFA are a sectarian and bigoted organisation. So why would they employ a Tim? And 3/ and the most telling fact- I’m sure you said you were from Coatbridge before? Well only syspects not lawyers come from there! 😂😭😂😭😂.

10 Aug 2018 02:02:59
The draw on Wednesday made the return game difficult not impossible. Like anything in this world if you work hard enough you can achieve. Celtic have 90mins to achieve. I just think there will be uncertainty from this team but it's a good team with great management. The board will have to put money in pocket. I can see return being close but I just see celtic winning late winner. Call me optimist.

10 Aug 2018 08:45:21
I'm a bit confused at all the comments from Wednesday saying how bad we were. I thought we totally dominated the game and had we been at our best upfront we would have put the tie to bed. It will take a very good performance to win over there but it can be done. Having Dembele or Griffiths back in would be a huge boost. We have to go for it and that's when i believe we will be at our best and more than capable of scoring.

10 Aug 2018 08:50:57
I think your right Seymour we will stand up and be counted then the new additions will come in and we will be heading for the treble treble and good showing in Europe this season.

10 Aug 2018 09:29:32
Well said Nickybhoy, a bit of positivity on here for a change. You wouldn't think we have just come off a double treble and still in Europe listening to some morons on here 👏👏.

10 Aug 2018 09:47:32
Glad you n Kev post on here Stevie cos I’ve been biting ma tongue 👍🍀.

10 Aug 2018 10:08:40
Not like you welshy you and Ed have been holding fire.

{Ed007's Note - What's the point, the same people who were lambasting the idea of John McGinn are now moaning because we didn't sign him. No matter what happens these people will moan and troll the site with their constant negativity. The live chat's never as busy as it is when we're not winning a game.... they're never happier than when things aren't going well.
You know the type, we've all had the misfortune of sitting beside these type of people at games over the years.}

10 Aug 2018 10:44:45
Well I wanted McGinn and I think it’s ashambkes we let him slip through our fingers. People who are saying gexwasnt good enough etc are talking rubbishe. As I said in another post, Rogers has reiterated all we said about this failure to act. Do we not agree with the manager now it’s not negativity to point out we are taking risks we shouldn’t. Happy clapping and trying to focus on the end of the window when we needed to move to ensure we weren’t looking in from the outside is the problem.

We aren’t out but we have made it harder and anybody who didn’t see that coming are either kidding themselves or really can’t see what thecsutuation is. Rogers can. I will stick with his assessment if needibg players in as soon as. Not one of his additional players wanted are here. Trying to say pointing that out as wrong is negative is nonsense.

10 Aug 2018 10:39:58
It's not even the point if they wanted McGinn. The manager wanted him and the board failed the manager.

As for Wednesday, no it doesn't mean we are out. The fact we were "all over them" is barely true.

They are a defensive side, only conceded 12 goals in their league last year. Their tactic is to allow you possession and counter attack.

Hence why we spent the 2nd half passing it sideways. They were dictating us with that, not the other way about. With 10 men.

10 Aug 2018 10:40:19
Couldn’t agree more mate tbh John McGinn wouldn’t have got in the team on wed night a fell out with the old man last night he thinks Rodgers is trying to work his ticket out and how we have blown the chance to bury them over the water where as I think we will do it on Tuesday with the mousassin playing a part.

10 Aug 2018 10:46:58
I said it on the live chat and I still believe it ed.
Some Celtic fans on this page seem desperate for us to slip up to the can shout, scream, say told you so and come out against the board.

{Ed007's Note - Oh definitely, Kev, of that I have no doubt. You could set your watch to them appearing on the live chat.}

10 Aug 2018 11:35:08
There’s someone that’s actually played football on 1 of the posts btw! He said we are goosed.

10 Aug 2018 11:40:27
Yup ed. Few times we've lost a goal and someone has put here they come. Seconds later they all appear. Celtic pick up and they all disappear again.

{Ed007's Note - At least I'm not the only one that notices it.}

10 Aug 2018 11:44:24
Who would you all drop to play mcginn. I wouldn't have him in my team before our first picks and I only seen him play for hibs against us. But he certainly wouldn't be a first team pick.

10 Aug 2018 11:48:09
I just feel we could be in a better position than we currently are in regards to signings and effectively improving the team. A lot at stake in these qualifiers. We aren't any better.

10 Aug 2018 11:54:09
cannot get my head round the outcry ed 60% on here didn't want the bhoy and now they're going tonto.

{Ed007's Note - Like I said, it's just any excuse to whinge and moan mate.}

10 Aug 2018 12:08:08
CalMac Ntcham Brown would be first names on my team then the rest can fight it out. Was a couple of seasons ago CalMac was being slated and many said not good enough for us. Thank goodness we don’t have them picking the team.

10 Aug 2018 12:28:18
Ed can you imagine what the live chat will be like if hearts score first tomorrow?

{Ed007's Note - Sadly I can, Kev.}

10 Aug 2018 12:34:48
Or maybe we want the right things done at the right times at the club so we don't slip up

and when we do slip up, of course we are going to say told you so.

basically we aren't allowed to say anything negative about Celtic even if it's true then. If yer proving correct, yer proven correct.

Take no joy in it, but we want best for Celtic and in key areas it's not been good enough for a long time.

10 Aug 2018 12:50:07
No one says your not allowed to say anything negative. I have said plenty myself. Especially about Craig Gordon. But many on the page only have negative to say. They only turn up on the live chat when things are not going well. They seem to revel in it.

10 Aug 2018 13:25:45
But live chat is also fun and full of banter folks if you have never ventured over please do so because the craic can be top notch

Take Kev here he is the only world record holder on live chat The only man to have got his end away twice and ended up with FOUR Weans from it :-P (Y)

10 Aug 2018 14:04:51
And if you have a dug, especially an auld one your doubley welcome.

10 Aug 2018 22:37:25
We've gone away to Anderlecht, Man City, Monchengladbach, Rosenborg and not been beaten. I honestly don't rate AEK above those teams so we can sure as hell go to Greece and get the result we need. Everybody is writing us off, including our own supporters, so BR should drill that into the players and get a siege mentality going and prove all the doubters wrong.