Celtic Banter Archive August 10 2015

 

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10 Aug 2015 20:11:48
Been reading a few posts on here regarding this striker wee can all dream but few people need to get realistic wee can't even compete for average English championship players look at the prices crazy wee will pay probably 2.5 million 3 million max for one and were can wee get this stricker were all craving for that price the answer is nowhere all wee can hope for is a loan again pay a percentage of the wages and off he goes end of season as usaul sorry its just the way it is and that's the market were are in now. Now Mr lawell prove us all wrong get the cheque book out ffs. Coybig

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10 Aug 2015 21:35:52
We agreee

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10 Aug 2015 22:51:25
Mr Lawwell may be all powerful in the eyes of many Celtic fans , however when it comes to enticing highly rated and highly valued players including strikers , his power is very minimal. In fact when we develop a player into a decent player his agent and the Scottish media clamour for the player to leave Scottish football and go elsewhere especially England .
Every day for two or three transfer windows the Scottish media has told Virgil he should go .

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10 Aug 2015 23:19:21
Who is the disagreers why not make a point instead clicking wee agree disagree button don't be shy haha get posting your views then

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11 Aug 2015 01:02:33
We need a striker scout plain and simple! There are many players out there in that price range that will become stars but we can't find one anywhere it's a F ING joke the money we have wasted!

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11 Aug 2015 13:44:40
Armchair/football manager scouts are amazing. Do you not think we have a scouting network all over the globe? Just because a player looks good when playing for another club does not mean he's going to be a hit at our club/Scottish football. That doesn't make our scouts bad and maybe that's why we are going for player in the Scottish league. No one knows what's happening in the background at our club so why all the negativity?

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{Ed007's Note - Don't you think that our scouting network has seriously failed in sourcing us the quality striker we've been crying out for for years? Or is the scouting network doing it's job and the problem lies at our chief executive level?}

11 Aug 2015 14:24:05
I don't think it's a f. ing joke the money we have wasted on trying to get the striker we want . I am not too sure that there is any ambitious clubs in these islands who haven't bought players who haven't disappointed the buying clubs .
If it was easy to buy players who would all do well for their clubs , then part of the fun would go out of the game .

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11 Aug 2015 15:39:39
Ed007 I suppose in a way yes but it's got to be so hard trying to find a proven Striker with the budget we are willing to spend and even to entice them to play in the Scottish league. It's a bit of hope and see what happens. I think part of the problem is there are so many scouting networks for all clubs all over the world that the price inflates all the time as soon as there is a bit of interest.

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{Ed007's Note - We've enticed players of the quality of Forster, Biton, Matthews, Ledley, Johansen and Lustig etc etc to Scotland so what's the difference when it comes to strikers? I've never really understood that excuse as we can attract quality when we are willing to pay the money, and it's not down to transfer fees, it comes down to the wages we are willing to pay.}

11 Aug 2015 15:45:59
Cmcbhoy we have a scouting network who go to different continents to look at players! We have failed drastically in the chase for a target man CF! I'm liking LG attitude this season and I didn't want him near the Club! We have a right as fans to complain! teams in Belgium seem to be able to produce CF after CF! We need something to change!

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11 Aug 2015 16:58:16
ha ha fair play ed007, I get where you are coming from. I've always just thought as soon as there is a proven goalscorer his price value rockets. I also think that as soon as striker comes to our club he's scrutinised from day 1. I do get where people are coming from though as it's been a while since we've had a top striker.

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{Ed007's Note - Strikers are always going to cost a premium but if you're shopping in the £30k a week market the chances are you'll get a better player than you will for £15k a week.}

10 Aug 2015 19:17:35
Just had a reply from ed 007 on Man U page Hernandez is a no to celtic

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{Ed007's Note - ?}

10 Aug 2015 22:54:56
Of course its a no. No way could Celtic even pay one third of Hernandez wages and that would be plenty for him.

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11 Aug 2015 08:30:15
We won't get him on loan . Both Spurs and West Ham are offering 10 - 12 million for him . Personally a don't think he has done enough to merit that sort of price tag but it's bpl!!

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11 Aug 2015 14:26:35
It was a daft wind-up from the start . Hernandez is an example of an expensive purchase and an over-paid youngster who certainly hasn't proved himself yet.

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10 Aug 2015 16:41:10
I see West Brom have signed another striker in Rondon, meaning Brown Ideye is pushed further down the pecking order. Think we could do a lot worse than making a move for him, either permanent or on loan.

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10 Aug 2015 19:18:42
Brown Ideye is a quality ST so no chance we will sign him. celtic won't pay any sort of money for a quality player.

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10 Aug 2015 20:22:04
I'd take a loan if they were willing! But I think berahino will be moving on! Can u believe they paid 8m for James chester and some people on here would be willing to sell VVD for that amount!

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11 Aug 2015 14:31:07
We are wasting our time looking at players in England . There maybe the very odd youngster who has yet to come good and who might , just like Janko make it with us .
Anyone who has had a run in an EPL side is immediately over priced and out of our range . Pls . Don't have our scouts in England.

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11 Aug 2015 20:19:24
old bhoy.dont have scouts in england?

Thts a wee bit over the top I would say, Hooper,Ledley, Mathews, commons, forster, wilson (to a lesser extent), denayer.

These are all players that have cme to us from down south. I understand where your coming from but I would say it comes down to scouting the right places down south

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10 Aug 2015 16:40:18
Bit off topic but would it not be a good idea to have the capital cup as a British cup , surely that would create more interest in it . Also it may improve players from the Scottish league as they could be playing a better standard of player. There would be more profile As well for players of lower English leagues and it could entice players to join the league or sign for a team in it. I appreciate some premier teams don't take it seriously but if Liverpool drew us , sevco against arsenal . Hearts v Spurs the interest would be massive.

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10 Aug 2015 17:12:35
Makes sense however at semi final stage in Scotland quarters in England and final for both ni and Wales league cups
This would be a 16 team British cup would help share the wealth of TV money in England amongs the rest of the UK
The 8 English sides cannot be drawn against each other in round 1
The final goes round the nations
Maybe even finalist from Scotland winners from Ireland and Wales and semi finalist from England
Even without the English I think this could be a goer involving roi ni Wales and Scotland
Would gives players and fans from smaller clubs a sort of European football experience as these are limited to July at present

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10 Aug 2015 17:13:41
What about joining up the Capital 1 cup with our league cup as a British cup.?

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11 Aug 2015 06:53:37
Wasn't that what my original post was about? Also would it not be better to play the champions league qualifiers at the end of the season , then the players could have a normal break without added pressure of playing these qualifiers which are obviously important to many clubs in times when it should be pre season. I appreciate teams would be tired at that time but they could have a week /10 days break then play the qualifiers. Teams could go off on their break knowing what competition they would be playing in, players would be sharper. There was that bout of internationals two weeks after the season ended so there must be scope for a few games at the end of the season

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11 Aug 2015 14:38:53
Celtic and the better teams in England play too many games as it is .
Just look at the line-ups English teams field in the UEFA cup .
A competition containing Celtic and others of a much lower standard and either top EPL clubs playing their 2nd or 3rd strings or EPL teams from near the lower end of the EPL playing plenty of back up players wouldn't be an attractive proposition for TV or fans attending ,.
Fiddling round with the League cup competition to allow Celtic and others into the English League cup is no more likely to happen than Celtic joining the EPL .

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10 Aug 2015 08:17:27
Celtic are after 17 year old Norwegian midfielder Kristoffer Ajer who plays for Start. He is a 1st team starter only bad thing is PSG are also looking at him! Apparently he's been scouted over the last few weeks.

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10 Aug 2015 12:46:05
I been wondering how long before those rumours would turn up. Ajer is at his team Start, allready captain at the age of 17, scores a bunch of goals and sees himself as a deeplying playmaker.
Hope he'll chose Celtic, cause he could be a real gem for you!

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11 Aug 2015 14:41:13
Norwegianred . I am a wee bit surprised and disappointed that Deila hasn't signed a couple of players who played inNorway before now .
This boy might be a good start .

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11 Aug 2015 16:33:24
NR, we already have a lanky deep lying playmaker highly rated. Genuine question, do you think Ajer would come to Celtic and play back up?

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10 Aug 2015 00:22:04
Hartson thinks we will spend 6m on a CF if we qualify for the CL we are all so desperate for this to be the case but Iv nearly givien up hope all together in this transfer dream!

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10 Aug 2015 03:24:23
Never give up hoping but won't happen

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10 Aug 2015 14:45:33
Its unlikely to happen as most agents and players who are worth £6 m would worry that signing for a Scottish team even Celtic would devalue them for future deals .

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10 Aug 2015 16:30:56
Old Bhoy I agree with you that its unlikely to happen, but disagree with statement regarding agents and devaluing. My reason is the likes of Wanyama, Hooper and possibly VVD (if sold) have seen their value soar.

On subject of values, I think we have to be more ruthless and hold out for top money. EPL teams play the old "scottish football is worthless" yet continually sign players who have demonstrated they can hold their own in EPL. Players like McCarthy, McArthur, Wanyama, Robertson to name a few.

If EPL clubs are willing to pay inflated prices for players who perhaps wouldn't get a game at Celtic, then its about time they started paying good money for our players who are better

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11 Aug 2015 14:46:13
I think we can get decent money and profit on young people who are seen to improve with us . We never get the true inflated value that is paid when a player moves from one EPL team to another .
If we sign a £6/7 m player, , it's immediately felt in England that he has stepped down to Scottish football. I don't think we can recoup that money .

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